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Which top contender(s) will be one-and-done? (Can choose multiple)
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axeil
Feb 14, 2006

blackmongoose posted:

Here you go, your dream scenario or as I like to call it - TIEBREAKER MADNESS!!!:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/mac...8~1~400791525~1

Every single seed except NFC 2 involves a tiebreaker. 6 AFC teams finish 11-5, leading to the Chiefs getting the 1 seed and Denver knocked out by an 8-8 Colts team (who win their tiebreaker over Houston). 6 NFC teams finish 9-7 which dumps Seattle and Atlanta and somehow there are two (!!!) NFC East teams in the playoffs as the 3 and 5 seeds. This is hugely unlikely to happen, but it would be incredible.

The first round of the NFC playoffs would be hilarious. And there would be so much crying about the AFC seeding it'd be amazing.

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kalensc
Sep 10, 2003

Only Trust Your Respirator, kupo!
Art/Quote by: Rubby
Move around the AFCS results and it can be Jacksonville in at 7-9 and the 11-5 Broncos and 8-8 Dolphins and 8-8 Raiders all being left out.

axeil
Feb 14, 2006
With last night's loss the Cowboys have officially been eliminated. The 4-way 7-9 tie is now impossible. Sorry folks.

axeil
Feb 14, 2006
With the Giants loss, Washington can now clinch the division with a win against the Eagles next week. The Giants will be eliminated with any loss. Eagles will be eliminated if they lose to Washington next week. Eagles can clinch with a win this week and win against Washington along with a Giants loss to the Vikings. Giants can clinch if they win out and Philly loses tonight AND wins the game next week against Washington.

Shocking how after 3 games all the crazyness of the NFC East has become far simpler.

axeil fucked around with this message at 22:34 on Dec 20, 2015

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
Seahawks punch their ticket and knock out the Rams, Bucs and Saints in the process

The NFC seeds are pretty much wrapped up unless something wacky happens in the final two weeks

three
Aug 9, 2007

i fantasize about ndamukong suh licking my doodoo hole

Benne posted:

The NFC seeds are pretty much wrapped up unless something wacky happens in the final two weeks

I don't see how that is the case. Seahawks/Vikings could easily flip fop 5/6, Vikings could even win their division, Cardinals could take the #1, Redskins/Eagles could flip-flop.

Fenrir
Apr 26, 2005

I found my kendo stick, bitch!

Lipstick Apathy
Eh, the Panthers would have to lose against both the Falcons and Bucs to lose #1. poo poo ain't happening.

That said, the rest are still technically up for grabs, but require some very unlikely scenarios. If the Packers win out and the Cardinals lose out (one of those games being Packers vs. Cardinals in Arizona next week) they could be #2 but I really doubt it'll happen. If the Vikings win the North it's guaranteed #3 since they'll have to at least beat the Packers week 17 to manage that and no one in the East is getting 10 wins. Even the Vikings getting #5 is a slim chance. They'd have to win next week, lose in Green Bay, then Seattle has to lose twice. It's possible, but again, very unlikely.

Of course, if the Vikings DO win the division, the Packers go to wild card and have the H2H over Seattle, so those teams could be 3/5/6 in that order.

Obviously the NFC East winner is locked into 4.

The biggest possible shakeup is probably if the Vikings lose out, in which case the Falcons or (insert NFC East team here) have a chance to win out and take #6. Redskins are the only ones that can win a tiebreak with the Seahawks, since they've got the same conference record, but if the Redskins win out they're #4, so anyone else pushes the Seahawks to 5 if the hawks lose out.

e: Wait, I'm dumb. Eagles play the Redskins next week so nope. No wild card team from the East is possible now. I think only the Falcons and Vikings are left that have a shot but haven't clinched.

Fenrir fucked around with this message at 02:25 on Dec 21, 2015

WHOOPS
Nov 6, 2009
If the Eagles lose tonight, how can the Falcons top the Vikings for the last Wild Card spot? The Vikings own the H2H and no other team could finish 9-7 aside from Washington, who would win the division if they did.

e: nvm, it's because they could be in a 3-way tie with Seattle at 9-7 and if they do, Vikings are out on the Strength of Victory tiebreaker. But Minnesota can still back-in with a loss to New York next week if Seattle wins.

WHOOPS fucked around with this message at 02:51 on Dec 21, 2015

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land




What do the Eagles need to do to make the playoffs after they get clowned on by Arizona tonight?

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN

DOOP posted:

What do the Eagles need to do to make the playoffs after they get clowned on by Arizona tonight?

Beat the Skins and Giants and they'll win the division. Tonight's game actually isn't too important for Philly's playoff chances.

blackmongoose
Mar 31, 2011

DARK INFERNO ROOK!

WHOOPS posted:

If the Eagles lose tonight, how can the Falcons top the Vikings for the last Wild Card spot? The Vikings own the H2H and no other team could finish 9-7 aside from Washington, who would win the division if they did.

e: nvm, it's because they could be in a 3-way tie with Seattle at 9-7 and if they do, Vikings are out on the Strength of Victory tiebreaker. But Minnesota can still back-in with a loss to New York next week if Seattle wins.

Your edit caught it, but yeah the Vikings are in a weird position where another team winning actually clinches it for them (Specifically, the scenario is: Vikings clinch with any of a win, a Falcons loss, or a Seattle win)

WHOOPS
Nov 6, 2009
Yeah, while they can't clinch this week, odds are they'll have their playoff spot clinched before playing New York since they are the SNF game. So odd.

Jimong5
Oct 3, 2005

If history is to change, let it change! If the world is to be destroyed, so be it! If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!!
Grimey Drawer

Fenrir posted:

That said, the rest are still technically up for grabs, but require some very unlikely scenarios. If the Packers win out and the Cardinals lose out (one of those games being Packers vs. Cardinals in Arizona next week) they could be #2 but I really doubt it'll happen.

The Cards don't have to lose out, they just have to drop one game between the eagles and the seahawks if the packers win out to lose the #2, they would be tied at 12-4 with the packers holding the H2H

Fenrir
Apr 26, 2005

I found my kendo stick, bitch!

Lipstick Apathy

Jimong5 posted:

The Cards don't have to lose out, they just have to drop one game between the eagles and the seahawks if the packers win out to lose the #2, they would be tied at 12-4 with the packers holding the H2H

Right, I flubbed that. The Packers just have to tie them record wise if they win next week. A win tonight clinches the Cards the division (Seattle can't catch up at that point) but won't clinch #2 just yet. Still, I think this is farts in the wind because I don't think the Packers have a shot in hell at winning in Arizona.

Considering the Packers are 0-2 in Lambeau against the NFC North this year, the Vikings game casts a big shadow too.

Fenrir fucked around with this message at 03:34 on Dec 21, 2015

Logicblade
Aug 13, 2014

Festival with your real* little sister!
I made a thing, it goes through every scenario in the AFC excluding ties, shows whether New England will win Homefield Advantage or not, whether Cincy will win their division or if it'll come down to tiebreakers, whether KC or Denver win their division, and more importantly, which team is the odd man out in the AFC playoff race in each scenario.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1G_dUm0p2Qj3SQ979B435ieufH8LDmZjO6T0dCNBb6Ss/edit?usp=sharing

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
So the NFC West is a wrap. It sucks that we won't get a home playoff game, but hey, maybe should've held all those fourth-quarter leads you had earlier in the year.

axeil
Feb 14, 2006
NFC EAST

Washington

Clinch with: win Week 16 @PHI OR (win Week 17 vDAL AND PHI loses @NYG)
Eliminated with: 2 PHI wins OR 2 WAS losses

Philly

Clinch with: win Week 16 vWAS AND (win Week 17 @NYG OR WAS loses Week 17 vDAL)
Eliminated with: lose Week 16 vWAS

New York

Clinch with: Win OUT + Philly wins Week 16 + Washington loses out
Eliminated with: any NYG loss or WAS win



Much, much simpler than last week.

Diva Cupcake
Aug 15, 2005

So now the more likely scenario for the Jets making the playoffs is hope for Denver losses and for KC to win the West and since Osweiler is loving terrible that seems like a thing that could happen.

Diva Cupcake
Aug 15, 2005

According to the cool NYTimes simulator, the Chiefs have a greater chance at making the playoffs than the Broncos. Let's make it happen!

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/upshot/2015-nfl-playoff-simulator.html

kalensc
Sep 10, 2003

Only Trust Your Respirator, kupo!
Art/Quote by: Rubby

Last Updated: Monday, December 21th, 13h30

pre:
## Tm. Rec. Div AFC Wk14 Wk15 Wk16 Wk17 Relevant Results
-- --- ---- --- --- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----------------
01 N.E 12-2 5-0 9-1 Whou wTen @NYJ @Mia Clinched top-2 Seed
02 Cin 11-3 4-1 8-2 Lpit Ws.f @Den vBal W-K.C WL-Pit ?-Den

03 Den 10-4 3-2 6-4 Loak Lpit vCin vS.D W-N.E WL-K.C L-Pit ?-Cin
04 Hou 07-7 3-1 5-5 Ln.e Wind @Ten vJax W?-Jax WL-Ind

05 K.C 09-5 4-1 8-2 Ws.d Wbal vCle vOak W-Pit L-Cin WL-Den
06 Pit 09-5 2-2 6-4 Wcin Wden @Bal @Cle W-Den WL-Cin L-K.C

   NYJ 09-5 2-2 6-4 Wten Wdal vN.E @Buf 

*  Ind 06-8 3-2 4-6 Ljax Lhou @Mia vTen WL-Hou,Jax
*  Jax 06-8 2-3 5-6 Wind Latl @N.O @Hou WL-Hou,Ind

* - Indianapolis and Jacksonville can clinch the AFCS but cannot earn a wild card.

Important Common Opponent tie-breaker results:

N.E/Cin: Buf, Pit, Hou, Den ; N.E: W,W,W,W,L  Cin: W,W,L,L,? ; N.E clinched 4-1 to 2-2

Cin/NYJ: Buf, Cle, Hou, Oak ; Cin: W,W,W,L,W  NYJ: L,?,W,L,L ; Cin clinched 4-1 to 1-3

Pit/NYJ: N.E, Cle, Ind, Oak ; Pit: L,W,?,W,W  NYJ: L,?,W,W,L ; Pit can clinch, at worst tied 3-2;
         If tied in record they would be tied in AFC record as well, and if C.O is tied then;
         Look at the SoV tie-breaker and it has been clinched by Pit (currently 62-64, 44-82).

Quick Summary of Two-way Tie-breakers:

.Teams. H2H Div AFC C.O SoV SoS
------- --- --- --- --- --- ---
N.E/Cin n.a n.a tie N.E
N.E/Den Den

Cin/Den ???
Cin/Pit tie tie tie tie Pit
Cin/K.C Cin
Cin/NYJ n.a n.a tie Cin

Den/K.C tie K.C
Den/Pit Pit
Den/NYJ n.a n.a NYJ

K.C/Pit K.C
K.C/NYJ n.a n.a K.C

Pit/NYJ n.a n.a n.a Pit

Eliminated from Playoffs: 
Wk13 - Cleveland
Wk14 - Tennessee, San Diego, Baltimore, Miami
Wk15 - Oakland, Buffalo
Battle to qualify for the AFC playoffs:

New England: Clinched a spot. Can finish #1 or #2.

Cincinnati: Clinched a spot. Can clinch top-2 Seed with win @Den. Can fall to Wild Card with 2 losses and 2 Pit wins.

Denver: Can clinch top-2 Seed with 2 wins. A loss vCin would make #3, #5, #6, and #7 Seeds all possible, due to losing tie-breakers to Cin & K.C & Pit & NYJ. Two losses would all eliminate them barring K.C, Pit, or NYJ losing out.

Kansas City: Can technically clinch #2 but requires 7 specific results including road wins by Bal and S.D. AFCW crown and #3 plausible if Den loses vCin. Control destiny for #5 Seed with the easiest final two matches of all WC contenders.

Pittsburgh: Can technically clinch #2 but requires 6 specific results including road wins by Bal and S.D and either Cle or Oak to win in K.C. AFCN crown and #3 Seed technically possible but requires the Bal win @Cin among others. Have tie-breaker over NYJ so clinch at least #6 by matching them win for win. Also have t-b over Den so clinch at least #5 with two wins AND two Den losses. Don't have t-b over K.C so either need to surpass them in wins or have them surpass Den for AFCW title to get that #5 Seed edge.

New York Jets: Can finish #5, #6, or #7. Only tie-breaker edge is versus Denver, thus they can clinch by winning out AND having one of {Pit lose once OR K.C lose once OR Den lose twice} occur. Can clinch by winning once if Pit loses out OR K.C loses out.

Battle for the #1 Seed:
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N.E@NYJ Cin@Den N.E@Mia Bal@Cin S.D@Den AFC #1 Seed
------- ------- ------- ------- ------- -----------
  N.E      *       *       *       *    New England (16/32)

  NYJ      *      N.E      *       *    New England (08/32)

  NYJ     Cin     Mia     Bal      *    New England (02/32)
  NYJ     Cin     Mia     Cin      *    Cincinnati  (02/32)

  NYJ     Den     Mia      *      S.D   New England (02/32)
  NYJ     Den     Mia      *      Den   Denver      (02/32)
Battle for the #2 Seed:

New England, Cincinnati, Denver, Kansas City, and Pittsburgh could all finish #2. Requires more results, especially Cin@Den, to make a full list of scenarios a feasible endeavor.

Battle for the #3 Seed:

Cincinnati, Denver, Kansas City, and Pittsburgh could all finish #3, and New England's result matter since they could slide to #2 and allow Cincinnati or Denver to sneak into #1. Requires more results, especially Cin@Den, to make a full list of scenarios a feasible endeavor.

Battle for the #4 Seed:

See AFC South breakdown for the Houston, Indianapolis, and Jacksonville scenarios.

Battle for the #5 Seed:

Cincinnati, Denver, Kansas City, Pittsburgh, and the New York Jets could all finish #5. Requires more results, especially Cin@Den, to make a full list of scenarios a feasible endeavor.

Battle for the #6 Seed:

Cincinnati, Denver, Kansas City, Pittsburgh, and the New York Jets could all finish #6. Requires more results, especially Cin@Den, to make a full list of scenarios a feasible endeavor.


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Tm. Rec. Div C.O AFC Wk14 Wk15 Wk16 Wk17 Relevant Results
--- ---- --- --- --- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----------------
N.E 12-2 4-0 7-1 9-1 Whou vTen @NYJ @Mia NYJ-W?

New England has clinched the AFCE and a top-2 seed in the AFC.

Common Opponents: AFC South, NFC East

Eliminated from AFCE Title: Miami, Buffalo (Wk12), New York Jets (Wk14)

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Tm. Rec. Div C.O AFC Wk14 Wk15 Wk16 Wk17 Relevant Results
--- ---- --- --- --- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----------------
Cin 11-3 4-1 6-1 8-2 Lpit Ws.f @Den vBal Pit-WL
Pit 09-5 2-2 6-2 6-4 Wcin Wden @Bal @Cle Cin-WL

Common Opponents: AFC West, NFC West

Eliminated from AFCN Title: Cleveland (Wk12), Baltimore (Wk13)

Cin@S.F Den@Pit Cin@Den Pit@Bal Bal@Cin Pit@Cle AFCN Winner
------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- -----------
  Cin     Pit     Cin      *       *       *    Cincinnati (8/16)
  Cin     Pit     Den     Bal      *       *    Cincinnati (4/16)
  Cin     Pit     Den     Pit     Cin      *    Cincinnati (2/16)
  Cin     Pit     Den     Pit     Bal     Cle   Cincinnati (1/16)
  Cin     Pit     Den     Pit     Bal     Pit   Ci/Pit SoV (1/16) *Scenario's current SoV: Pit 71-90, Cin 66-94*

SoV Analysis (assuming tied at season's end at 11-5):

Cin wins: Pit,Bal,Cle,Cle,Oak,S.D,S.F,StL Buf,K.C,Sea
Pit wins: Cin,Bal,Cle,Cle,Oak,S.D,S.F,StL Ind,Den,Ari

First 8 wins are all equivalent in record so each of those teams affect Pit and Cin equally.

Consider SoV of other 3 wins, including hypothesized Wk16-17 results:

Cin: Buf 06-08, K.C 09-05, Sea 09-05
Pit: Ind 06-08, Den 11-04, Ari 12-02

Thus Pit has an 4.5 game advantage. Furthermore Cin cannot aim for just a SoV tie due to SoS.

The SoS t-b has been clinched by Pit due to having 12 shared opponents.
Two more opponents, each other, won't impact due to requiring identical records to get to SoS t-b.
Pit played N.E & Ind whereas Cin played Buf & Hou; currently N.E +6 wins vs Buf, Hou +1 win vs Ind.
At worst, N.E beats Buf by 4 wins, Hou beats Ind by 3 wins, Pit wins SoS by 1 win.

Back to SoV, where Cin must defeat Pit by 1 full SoV win.

The hypothezied SoV versus just those opponents is currently Pit: 29-14 and Cin 24-18.
At worst Pit's SoV versus those opponents will fall to 29-19.
At best Cin's SoV versus those opponents will rise to 30-18.
Thus, if any Buf loss OR K.C loss OR Sea loss OR Ind win OR Den win OR Ari win occurs,
then should Pit and Cin tie at 11-5 then Pit would clinch the AFCN due to SoV record.

Cincinnati: Clinch with win vBal OR win @Den OR Pit loss @Bal OR Pit loss @Cle OR Cin win SoV.

Pittsburgh: Must win @@Bal & @Cle, AND have Cin lose vBal (thus tying H2H and AFCN records) AND have Cin lose @Den (tying C.O and AFC records) AND then clinch via SoV by having any one of the following occur (Buf loss OR K.C loss OR Sea loss OR Ind win OR Den win OR Ari win).


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Tm. Rec. Div C.O AFC Wk14 Wk15 Wk16 Wk17 Relevant Results
--- ---- --- --- --- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----------------
Hou 07-7 3-1 3-5 5-5 Ln.e Wind @Ten vJax Ind-WL Jax-W?
Ind 06-8 3-2 2-5 4-6 Ljax Lhou @Mia vTen Hou-WL Jax-WL
Jax 05-9 2-3 2-5 5-6 Wind Latl @N.O @Hou Hou-L? Ind-WL

Common Opponents: AFC East, NFC South

Eliminated from AFCS Title: Tennessee (Wk14)

Hou@Ind Atl@Jax Ind@Mia Hou@Ten Jax@N.O Ten@Ind Jax@Hou AFCS Winner
------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- -----------
  Hou     Atl     Mia     Hou      *       *       *    Houston      (8/32)

  Hou     Atl     Ind     Hou      *       *      Hou   Houston      (4/32)
  Hou     Atl     Ind     Hou      *      Ten     Jax   Houston      (2/32)
  Hou     Atl     Ind     Hou      *      Ind     Jax   Hou/Ind SoV  (2/32) *Scenario's current SoV: Hou 51-67, Ind 48-72*


  Hou     Atl     Ind     Ten      *      Ind     Jax   Indianapolis (2/32)
  Hou     Atl     Ind     Ten      *      Ten     Hou   Houston      (2/32)
  Hou     Atl     Ind     Ten      *      Ind     Hou   Hou/Ind SoV  (2/32) *Scenario's current SoV: Hou 53-64, Ind 49-71*
  Hou     Atl     Ind     Ten     N.O     Ten     Jax   Hou/Ind SoV  (1/32) *Scenario's current SoV: Hou 49-53, Ind 46-58*
  Hou     Atl     Ind     Ten     Jax     Ten     Jax   Jacksonville (1/32)

  Hou     Atl     Mia     Ten      *       *      Hou   Houston      (4/32)
  Hou     Atl     Mia     Ten      *      Ind     Jax   Indianapolis (2/32)
  Hou     Atl     Mia     Ten     N.O     Ten     Jax   Houston      (1/32)
  Hou     Atl     Mia     Ten     Jax     Ten     Jax   Jacksonville (1/32)
Houston: Clinch with two wins OR (one win AND one Ind loss) OR (two Ind losses AND one Jax loss) OR (one of the latter SoV t-b scenarios). Defeating the Titans next Sunday nearly clinches the division, and at worst they'd be in a SoV t-b.

Indianapolis: To clinch outright they'd need Hou to lose out, since any Texans win makes it impossible for Indy to clinch the Div, C.O, or AFC tie-breaker. Then Indy would need to win vTen to surpass Hou and finish ahead of Jax. Every other scenario either requires a SoV t-b (not leaning in their favor) or eliminates them. Note that every one of their scenarios to clinch involves a Ten win vs Hou, aside from the most realistic one which is Ind winning out and Hou losing vs Jax and Ind taking the SoV t-b.

Jacksonville: Must win out to get to 7-9 AND have Ten win vHou to drop Hou to 7-9 and beat them on AFC t-b AND have Ten win @Ind to limit Ind to 7-9 and beat them on AFC record.


pre:
Tm. Rec. Div C.O AFC Wk14 Wk15 Wk16 Wk17 Relevant Results
--- ---- --- --- --- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----------------
Den 10-4 3-2 6-1 6-4 Loak Lpit vCin vS.D K.C-WL
K.C 09-5 4-1 3-4 8-2 Ws.d Wbal vCle vOak Den-WL
Common Opponents: AFC North, NFC North

Eliminated from AFCW Title: San Diego (Wk11), Oakland (Wk13)

Den@Pit K.C@Bal Cin@Den Cle@K.C S.D@Den Oak@K.C AFCW Winner
------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- -----------
  Pit     K.C     Den     Cle      *       *    Denver (04/16)

  Pit     K.C     Den     K.C     Den      *    Denver (02/16)
  Pit     K.C     Den     K.C     S.D     Oak   Denver (01/16)
  Pit     K.C     Den     K.C     S.D     K.C   K.City (01/16)

  Pit     K.C     Cin     Cle     Den      *    Denver (02/16)
  Pit     K.C     Cin     Cle     S.D     Oak   Denver (01/16)
  Pit     K.C     Cin     Cle     S.D     K.C   K.City (01/16)

  Pit     K.C     Cin     K.C     Den     Oak   Denver (01/16)
  Pit     K.C     Cin     K.C     S.D      *    K.City (02/16)
  Pit     K.C     Cin     K.C     Den     K.C   K.City (01/16)
Denver: Clinch with any combination of two {Den wins & K.C losses}. Despite their recent stumbles, a win at home vS.D seems quite likely. The other three matches though are K.C hosting two sub-.500 teams and the Bengals traveling to Denver. Cin@Den could rival K.C's win over Pit in terms of highest impact on the final AFC seedings.

Kansas City: They split the H2H so they can clinch by tying Denver in wins (which will ensure winning the divisional t-b). Thus, clinch with any combination of three {K.C wins & Den losses}. One feasible path: win out (very reasonable), have Den lose @Pit (check), and have Cin get a healthy Dalton back (or rely on a mistake-free A.J) and win @Den; K.C wins divison at 11-5 due to a superior AFCW record.

LiquidFriend
Apr 5, 2005

I just have a feeling the Denver is going to cost themselves one more game. At least one more.

Their playoff hopes rest on the Patriots.

kalensc
Sep 10, 2003

Only Trust Your Respirator, kupo!
Art/Quote by: Rubby

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Tm.   Ovr W   Ovr L     Ovr %	SoS W	SoS L	SoS %   Wk16    Wk17
---   -----   -----     -----   -----   -----   -----   ----    ----
TEN	3	11	0.214	109	115	0.487	HOU	@IND
CLE	3	11	0.214	120	104	0.536	@KC	PIT
BAL	4	10	0.286	116	108	0.518	PIT	@CIN
S.D	4	10	0.286	116	108	0.518	@OAK	@DEN
DAL	4	10	0.286	121	103	0.540	@BUF	WSH
S.F	4	10	0.286	123	101	0.549	@DET	STL
JAX	5	9	0.357	104	120	0.464	@NO	@HOU
MIA	5	9	0.357	106	118	0.473	IND	NE
N.O	5	9	0.357	115	109	0.513	JAX	@ATL
DET	5	9	0.357	119	105	0.531	SF	@CHI
CHI	5	9	0.357	121	103	0.540	@TB	DET
T.B	6	8	0.429	107	117	0.478	CHI	@CAR
NYG	6	8	0.429	111	113	0.496	@MIN	PHI
IND	6	8	0.429	113	111	0.504	@MIA	TEN
OAK	6	8	0.429	114	110	0.509	SD	@KC
PHI	6	8	0.429	115	109	0.513	WSH	@NYG
BUF	6	8	0.429	116	108	0.518	DAL	NYJ
STL	6	8	0.429	119	105	0.531	@SEA	@SF

Diqnol
May 10, 2010

I don't know what your fascination with the AFC is but it's the inferior conference outside of the Pats imo

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

Alternatively, nice work not focusing on the boring NFC playoff situation

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!

BabeLiker90 posted:

I don't know what your fascination with the AFC is but it's the inferior conference outside of the Pats imo

The Steelers could beat anyone in the NFL.

Big Ol Marsh Pussy
Jan 7, 2007

NC-17 posted:

The Steelers could beat anyone in the NFL.

*in the voice of the dwight from the office meme* false, they can only beat the teams they're scheduled to play by the nfl.

kalensc
Sep 10, 2003

Only Trust Your Respirator, kupo!
Art/Quote by: Rubby

BabeLiker90 posted:

I don't know what your fascination with the AFC is but it's the inferior conference outside of the Pats imo

:colbert:

Cavauro posted:

Alternatively, nice work not focusing on the boring NFC playoff situation

:hfive:

Besides the Pats closing in on #1, the rest of the AFC is a huge jumble that's fun to untangle.

The NFC has three "races"; NFCE which has already been solved by axeil's excellent posts, and then the combination of G.B/Min/Sea (and Atlanta teetering at the end of the plank) battling for the NFCN and the Wild Cards, all of which has been solved in the NFC OP and other recent posts here and there.

Naturally the first heavy analysis will be the AFC, followed up with Draft and NFC stats when there's time during the week.

Fenrir
Apr 26, 2005

I found my kendo stick, bitch!

Lipstick Apathy
Yeah, the NFC just isn't as interesting because of far fewer likely (or even possible) scenarios. I suppose a few targeted meteor strikes could end up with the NFC looking something like:

1 Arizona
2 Carolina
3 Minnesota
4 NY Giants
5 Green Bay
6 Seattle

or even

1 Carolina
2 Green Bay
3 Arizona
4 Philadelphia
5 Seattle
6 Atlanta

But really when you boil it down, 4 spots are clinched with only one division having any kind of race going on and it's a cripple fight. Then you've got the Vikings and Falcons fighting over the other wild card since Seattle already has one.

WHOOPS
Nov 6, 2009
Considering Green Bay's dropped games to both the Lions and Bears at home, it seems weird to consider it taking a meteor strike for the Vikings to win the division over them.

Fenrir
Apr 26, 2005

I found my kendo stick, bitch!

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WHOOPS posted:

Considering Green Bay's dropped games to both the Lions and Bears at home, it seems weird to consider it taking a meteor strike for the Vikings to win the division over them.

Nah, the meteor part with the Minnesota 3 scenario was more that I had Arizona at 1 and Carolina at 2, and the Giants winning the NFCE.

The more realistic scenario is this:

1 Carolina
2 Arizona
3 Green Bay/Minnesota
4 (Winner of NFCE cripple fight)
5 Seattle
6 Green Bay/Minnesota

Anything else seems like a reach to me unless somehow the Packers beat Arizona and lose to the Vikings, which seems bizarre. In that case, even if Seattle wins both their remaining games, Green Bay gets 5 and Seattle 6 due to H2H tiebreak. I just feel like if the Packers have one more win in them, it's against the Vikings, not in Arizona. So the Packers would get the 3 instead of 6.

The Falcons have to beat Carolina next week to even have a chance of the wild card. Look what happened the last time they played :laugh:
Not loving happening, unless... well, this is why I was talking about meteors.

Packers have to sweep Arizona and Minnesota and the Cards also have to lose against the Seahawks for the Packers to get #2. Possible? Yeah. Probable? Maybe if it was the 2014 Packers. Not happening.

e: then again, with the schedule we've had this year, the 2014 Packers would be 13-1 at worst, and fighting with the Panthers and Cardinals for the #1 seed. The Pack was a much better team last year.

Fenrir fucked around with this message at 03:09 on Dec 23, 2015

pyromance
Sep 25, 2006
I think if Minnesota wins the division, and GB ties Seattle, GB will be #5 and Seattle will be #6 just because of the head to head win.

Fenrir
Apr 26, 2005

I found my kendo stick, bitch!

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pyromance posted:

I think if Minnesota wins the division, and GB ties Seattle, GB will be #5 and Seattle will be #6 just because of the head to head win.

Yeah, I mentioned that.

Fenrir posted:

Anything else seems like a reach to me unless somehow the Packers beat Arizona and lose to the Vikings, which seems bizarre. In that case, even if Seattle wins both their remaining games, Green Bay gets 5 and Seattle 6 due to H2H tiebreak.

OperaMouse
Oct 30, 2010

Footballoutsiders has the Vikings locked in for the playoffs. Is that correct, i.e. Falcons are out?

Fenrir
Apr 26, 2005

I found my kendo stick, bitch!

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OperaMouse posted:

Footballoutsiders has the Vikings locked in for the playoffs. Is that correct, i.e. Falcons are out?

They're not out, it's just that they've got a snowball's chance in hell. Their only way in is if they win out and the Vikings AND Seahawks lose out. This creates a 3-way tie at 9-7, where the Vikings would be the odd team out.

Kirios
Jan 26, 2010




What's the current strength of victory between Houston and Indianapolis?

Edit: The best I can get for the Colts is if literally every game from here until the end of the year goes in their favor they are in, otherwise they are out. They need the Broncos to beat the Bengals and the Jaguars to beat the Saints today. If just one goes against the Colts it goes down to points scored vs points allowed in conference games, in which the Texans appear to be significantly ahead.

Kirios fucked around with this message at 22:39 on Dec 27, 2015

Beautiful Ninja
Mar 26, 2009

Five time FCW Champion...of my heart.
So the Jets look to have 3 ways to get into the playoffs now

1) Win and they're in
2) Lose and have the Steelers lose
3) Lose and have the Broncos lose out, Broncos lose the tiebreakers to the Steelers and Jets

The Broncos losing any game and the Jets winning bumps them up to 5 seed and gives them a matchup against the Texans, which seems to be the most favorable situation for them right now. The Broncos winning out and a Jets win has them up against a Daltonless Bengals team, as would losing and the Steelers losing. I'm not sure if that's good or bad for the Bengals though.

Worst case scenario would be the Jets losing, Steelers losing, Bengals winning out and Broncos winning week 17, Jets end up as the 6 seed playing the Chiefs.

Beautiful Ninja fucked around with this message at 01:56 on Dec 28, 2015

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
So the Seahawks got Jeff Fisher'd yet again and are most likely dropping to the 6 seed. The only way we can get the 5 (and thus play the Skins) is if two things happen:

1. Beat the Cardinals (not gonna happen, especially if Lynch and Chancellor still can't go)

2. Have the Packers beat the Vikings for the NFCN, so Seattle moves up on head-to-head tiebreaker.

This is an unfortunate turn of events because I really wanted that Skins game, and as flawed as the Packers are right now, "playoff game in Lambeau" historically doesn't end well for Seattle.

loving Rams ruin everything.

Pron on VHS
Nov 14, 2005

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Suck it Up and Keep Wrestling

Beautiful Ninja posted:

So the Jets look to have 3 ways to get into the playoffs now

1) Win and they're in
2) Lose and have the Steelers lose
3) Lose and have the Broncos lose out, Broncos lose the tiebreakers to the Steelers and Jets

The Broncos losing any game and the Jets winning bumps them up to 5 seed and gives them a matchup against the Texans, which seems to be the most favorable situation for them right now. The Broncos winning out and a Jets win has them up against a Daltonless Bengals team, as would losing and the Steelers losing. I'm not sure if that's good or bad for the Bengals though.

Worst case scenario would be the Jets losing, Steelers losing, Bengals winning out and Broncos winning week 17, Jets end up as the 6 seed playing the Chiefs.

Someone on Twitter did the decision tree and found that the Chiefs vs. Jets is a nearly impossible 1st round scenario.

Qwijib0
Apr 10, 2007

Who needs on-field skills when you can dance like this?

Fun Shoe

Benne posted:

So the Seahawks got Jeff Fisher'd yet again and are most likely dropping to the 6 seed. The only way we can get the 5 (and thus play the Skins) is if two things happen:

1. Beat the Cardinals (not gonna happen, especially if Lynch and Chancellor still can't go)

2. Have the Packers beat the Vikings for the NFCN, so Seattle moves up on head-to-head tiebreaker.

This is an unfortunate turn of events because I really wanted that Skins game, and as flawed as the Packers are right now, "playoff game in Lambeau" historically doesn't end well for Seattle.

loving Rams ruin everything.

The Carolina game is at 1, but ours is is late-- so if Carolina wins we have no seed to play for as we'd be locked in to the #2. I suppose it could be strategically advantageous to try to play for a win to knock y'all to 6 so that you'd beat up on the Panthers first out of the WC round.

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No Butt Stuff
Jun 10, 2004

Carolina got flexed to the afternoon spot to, to avoid this scenario.

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