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haldolium
Oct 22, 2016



Rupert Buttermilk posted:



- I'm already aware of Lego City Underground, but while I think there's split screen on the Switch, it's single player on Steam, which is the platform I'm targeting.

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did you mean undercover? It has splitscreen same as all TT lego games on PC.

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fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

My wife and I have done almost everything in GTA Online, and she was saying how she wishes our 9 year old could join us. True, there are somewhat ok modes and things to do, but it's surrounded by typical GTA-shenanigans. I'm very much not willing to even attempt to have my 9 year old traverse Los Santos, short of there being some sort of standalone racing and stunt game, which there isn't. There are stunt and racing modes but it's still in GTA Online itself, so no thanks.

So, my question is, does anyone know of any open-world multiplayer games similar to GTA Online, but ok for a 9 year old to play?

One of the Forza Horizon games would probably be your best bet for a stand alone racing and stunt game with multiplayer. They even have Lego expansions. Burnout Paradise might also be worth a look.

Otherwise, the Farming Sim games? Snowrunner?

fez_machine fucked around with this message at 23:48 on Mar 11, 2024

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

fez_machine posted:

One of the Forza Horizon games would probably be your best bet for a stand alone racing and stunt game with multiplayer. They even have Lego expansions. Burnout Paradise might also be worth a look.

Otherwise, the Farming Sim games? Snowrunner?

Ok, I'll check those out, though your reply makes me realize that I worded my post incorrectly.

I essentially would love the GTA experience for him, to play with us, but right now, the only things IN gta online that don't involve murder or sex are the racing and stunt modes. I'm looking for an open world 'chill out and do stuff or get together for an objective' kind of game. I'm not expecting to find anything, but I figured I'd ask.

I definitely should give Snowrunner a try for driving with him, though. I've heard it's great.

bbcisdabomb
Jan 15, 2008

SHEESH

A Strange Aeon posted:

Yeah, I'm honestly not sure how it would work on a non PC, because to me being able to just type in whatever you want is the whole point. If you had to select from a word list or navigate a keyboard with a controller, that sounds pretty painful.

The DS version just has a button to bring up an on-screen keyboard, I would imagine that's what the Switch version does.

~Coxy
Dec 9, 2003

R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

My wife and I have done almost everything in GTA Online, and she was saying how she wishes our 9 year old could join us. True, there are somewhat ok modes and things to do, but it's surrounded by typical GTA-shenanigans. I'm very much not willing to even attempt to have my 9 year old traverse Los Santos, short of there being some sort of standalone racing and stunt game, which there isn't. There are stunt and racing modes but it's still in GTA Online itself, so no thanks.

So, my question is, does anyone know of any open-world multiplayer games similar to GTA Online, but ok for a 9 year old to play?

This isn't exactly what you want, but NFS Heat was 90% off recently and it's a few years old by now so I wouldn't be surprised if it goes on sale or humble bundle again in the near future.

It's probably the most fun NFS game in a long time, and you can explore the open world in a multiplayer lobby.

~Coxy
Dec 9, 2003

R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD
This is stretching the scope of the thread a bit but does anyone have any good recommendations for free image libraries?

My kid was doing GIS for random stuff to insert into Word documents and a lot of the sites that come up first are infested with fake virus warnings and explicit popups for camgirl sites. (what is this, the early 00s?)

Unreal_One
Aug 18, 2010

Now you know how I don't like to use the sit-down gun, but this morning we just don't have time for mucking about.


In the "GTA for kids" space is Wobbly life, which is basically just driving around and doing some mini games to make money to buy houses and clothes. It's moderately janky, but I could absolutely have fallen in love with it if I was a kid.

Endings
Jan 17, 2012

Close your eyes...

~Coxy posted:

This is stretching the scope of the thread a bit but does anyone have any good recommendations for free image libraries?

My kid was doing GIS for random stuff to insert into Word documents and a lot of the sites that come up first are infested with fake virus warnings and explicit popups for camgirl sites. (what is this, the early 00s?)

It's a bit out of the scope of your question... but honestly, just install ublock origin or some other ad/script blocker (ublock is the good one though) -- there's really no getting away from that on randomly searched sites these days.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

Unreal_One posted:

In the "GTA for kids" space is Wobbly life, which is basically just driving around and doing some mini games to make money to buy houses and clothes. It's moderately janky, but I could absolutely have fallen in love with it if I was a kid.

Yeah, this is exactly what I'm talking about. Thanks! :toot:

I knew goons would be able to help me find exactly what I'm looking for.

Lead out in cuffs
Sep 18, 2012

"That's right. We've evolved."

"I can see that. Cool mutations."




~Coxy posted:

This is stretching the scope of the thread a bit but does anyone have any good recommendations for free image libraries?

My kid was doing GIS for random stuff to insert into Word documents and a lot of the sites that come up first are infested with fake virus warnings and explicit popups for camgirl sites. (what is this, the early 00s?)

In general, it's better to find a curated, trusted site and search within that than GIS.

Wikimedia Commons is great for photos, maps, art, etc. It's all free, moderated, and represents a pretty broad cross-section of topics.

If you want icons, try the Noun Project. The free version comes with watermarks in the corner, but you can easily remove them in Inkscape.

For more advanced clip art, I'm not as sure, but freepik.com seems like an option?

wizzardstaff
Apr 6, 2018

Zorch! Splat! Pow!

Lead out in cuffs posted:

If you want icons, try the Noun Project. The free version comes with watermarks in the corner, but you can easily remove them in Inkscape.

Game-icons.net is also really good for this. The icons are black and white by default but the site has an editor to color and shade each individual vector.

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

Taeke posted:

7 year old I was caring for last weekend loved watching me play Pacific Drive. Tinkering around in the garage, driving around in pretty-ish landscapes with loads of cool and 'scary' things with bright colors, all culminating in an exciting race to a huge beam of light to teleport out of there.

Yeah, Pacific Drive is pretty good. My eldest Childe deigned to hang out and watch me play, which she usually doesn't do. It helps that the dangers are either natural ones, or clearly artificial anomalies. Not having people or animals (so far at least, I haven't actually gotten to the inner areas) is a pretty excellent choice for allowing tension while making it still kid accessible. The closest thing might be the Tourists, but they're more of a jump scare.

gently caress them jump scare mannequins.

Lutha Mahtin
Oct 10, 2010

Your brokebrain sin is absolved...go and shitpost no more!

Lead out in cuffs posted:

Wikimedia Commons is great for photos, maps, art, etc. It's all free, moderated, and represents a pretty broad cross-section of topics.

wikimedia commons is full of self-made fetish/porno photography, gruesome injury pictures, documentary evidence of genocide/war, all kinds of nasty stuff. why would you suggest it for someone who wants clean and safe image browsing options for their kids. seriously what the gently caress :psyduck:

Good-Natured Filth
Jun 8, 2008

Do you think I've got the goods Bubblegum? Cuz I am INTO this stuff!

Humble Bundle is selling a collection of Humongous Entertainment games. The games are "simple" point-and-click adventure games, but they always have very goofy backgrounds in every scene that you can interact with. They have kept my kids entertained in the past.

https://www.humblebundle.com/games/spring-into-learning-complete-humongous-collection

Xand_Man
Mar 2, 2004

If what you say is true
Wutang might be dangerous


No Backyard sports :ferrari:

Lead out in cuffs
Sep 18, 2012

"That's right. We've evolved."

"I can see that. Cool mutations."




Lutha Mahtin posted:

wikimedia commons is full of self-made fetish/porno photography, gruesome injury pictures, documentary evidence of genocide/war, all kinds of nasty stuff. why would you suggest it for someone who wants clean and safe image browsing options for their kids. seriously what the gently caress :psyduck:

I mean, a) I don't doubt that stuff is there, but I've never seen it, most likely because I haven't gone searching for it, but b) all that stuff is equally available at the local library, if you really look for it.

Like, are you gonna ban your kid from the library and from Wikipedia because they might see some titillating art or learn about the Holocaust?

The OP was asking for an alternative to GIS, which was linking to sites that barraged their kid with ads for porn and obvious malware with every search. WMC is going to give them that.

Good-Natured Filth
Jun 8, 2008

Do you think I've got the goods Bubblegum? Cuz I am INTO this stuff!

Xand_Man posted:

No Backyard sports :ferrari:

I don't think Humongous owns the rights to Backyard Sports anymore. But I would love to see Backyard Baseball come back.

Mercedes
Mar 7, 2006

"So you Jesus?"

"And you black?"

"Nigga prove it!"

And so Black Jesus turned water into a bucket of chicken. And He saw that it was good.




Are there any diablo-like couch coop games could play with my kids? I know of mine craft dungeons, but I want something with a little more complexity for my own sake

FoolyCharged
Oct 11, 2012

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

Titan Quest got a console port with split screen. The reviews I've seen for that port are... split to say the least, but the game itself is solid.

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

You are now a slimy little toad
The Great Twist
Some of the older Marvel Alliance games would probably scratch that itch, though not sure how available they are on modern systems.

Good-Natured Filth
Jun 8, 2008

Do you think I've got the goods Bubblegum? Cuz I am INTO this stuff!

Unsurprising, but Princess Peach: Showtime! is a good game for kids. My 8yo daughter is enjoying the hell out of it. You can turn on a heart medal which gives you extra health, and if you lose a certain number of times on a level, you can skip it. I have yet to play it myself and only watched her play for a bit, but she can't stop talking about all the different costumes Peach puts on.

Benagain
Oct 10, 2007

Can you see that I am serious?
Fun Shoe
My 3 1/2 year old became obsessed with princess peach after watching the Mario movie so we're definitely getting that at some point, right now we're using animal crossing to get her on board with basic controls.

We have an adorable video and sequence of pictures (that we will absolutely be showing to whoever she brings home) of her getting on her princess dress, packing a bag, putting on her coat, and proudly telling us that she was going to princess peach's house.

By bus. At night. In February. The look of dawning heartbreak as she realized we weren't going to let her was both very sad and extremely funny.

KirbyKhan
Mar 20, 2009



Soiled Meat
Princess Peach: Showtime looks like a great game for children and toddlers. For Saturday Morning Cartoon tv I put on a longplay of that and read the subtitles out loud for an hour. Good pacing, good didactic lessons, girl power, comic violence.

Edit: I think Princess Peach collecting Star Sparkles in the game supercharged my toddler's understanding of Potty Time Sticker Chart

shut up blegum
Dec 17, 2008


--->Plastic Lawn<---
My kid (6) loves to play farming simulator. I downloaded the infinite money mod and now I just watch as he buys a ton of farming equipment, drives it around, loads and unloads it etc.
He very rarely plants stuff, sometimes I buy another plot of land so he can harvest that.
Controls are a bit tricky, but he's gotten the hang of it. Luckily every vehicle has the same control scheme.

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

I have a 7 year-old who likes chess, he's in a once-a-week chess club after school and we took him to his first tournament last weekend where he won 1 of 4 matches. I was very encouraging, he felt pretty discouraged by the losses though. He says he's willing to practice more with me. Anyone have any suggestions for instructional stuff that we could go through together?

Molybdenum
Jun 25, 2007
Melting Point ~2622C
Chess.com has all kinds of tutorials for lots of skill levels. Even just the daily puzzle is good practice to analyze positions and plan a few moves ahead.

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...
Yeah, the only two things I can think of are "explain the concept of the tryhard" and "git gud, scrub" neither of which are encouraging I expect. If you know why he lost those matches, maybe you can talk to him about that and see if there's anything that's just a common mistake he could learn not to do. At the lowest skill level just being able to think ahead more than one move and knowing some common moves / counter moves (and how/why they work) are a big help.

Rasputin on the Ritz
Jun 24, 2010
Come let's mix where Rockefellers
walk with sticks or um-ber-ellas
in their mitts

Volmarias posted:

Yeah, the only two things I can think of are "explain the concept of the tryhard" and "git gud, scrub" neither of which are encouraging I expect. If you know why he lost those matches, maybe you can talk to him about that and see if there's anything that's just a common mistake he could learn not to do. At the lowest skill level just being able to think ahead more than one move and knowing some common moves / counter moves (and how/why they work) are a big help.

Take this with a grain of salt because out kid is still in diapers, but I've seen this work with my nephews: emphasize loosing as a way to learn something new and get better. This probably works best if you can incorporate it from the chutes and ladders age, but it helped a TON in moving one nephew in particular away from some really impressive Fortnite meltdowns and towards approaching gaming more healthily in general. Shifting the framing from being mad that he got killed to dissecting how he got killed and how he could try not to let that happen in the future was a huge help.

Taeke
Feb 2, 2010


Yeah, that's my approach when the kids I work with get frustrated about losing or not being able to achieve something in a game.

Losing or failing is a very emotional experience, even more so the younger they are. Frustration, anger, shame, etc. can be very overwhelming and all encompassing.

That's fine. You're allowed to feel those emotions and they're valid, but it's important to teach kids that it's also important to process those feelings in a healthy way and then try to take a step back. Depending on how big those emotions are it could be 10 minutes later, it could be the next day or even days later if it's a particularly big event (like losing a big tournament or whatever.)

Once they've gone through the (rollercoaster of) emotions you can help them first by understanding what happened. Why did they lose? Why do they keep failing to finish that level in Mario? Understanding what happened returns a sense of control that they've (temporarily) lost.
"I'm just not good enough" or "They're just better than me" or "it's just too hard" turns into "I didn't anticipate that move but now I know what to look out for" or "I keep jumping too fast so I'm missing the platform but if I relax a bit and take my time I can make it."

I find it helps to talk about these processes in a more general sense, even with the younger kids. A 7 year old is (generally speaking, I don't know your kid) smart enough to talk with (at their level) about where these emotions come from, and teach them that while they're a natural part of being human and it's important to acknowledge and feel them it's also important to use them as a motivator instead of allowing them to be or become an obstacle.

~Coxy
Dec 9, 2003

R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD
I don't know whether this will help a 7yo to understand, but you could also try to explain that someone has to win and therefore someone has to lose (since I assume at that level they're not forcing draws.)
The other problem with casual competitions is that there's no way to measure and apply skill ratings, so the pool is all kids of the vague level "for a kid they're pretty good at X" but their actual skills differ wildly. (If you're reading this thread, you might recognise this as the dorm room fighting game champion problem.)

Renegret
May 26, 2007

THANK YOU FOR CALLING HELP DOG, INC.

YOUR POSITION IN THE QUEUE IS *pbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbt*


Cat Army Sworn Enemy

~Coxy posted:

The other problem with casual competitions is that there's no way to measure and apply skill ratings, so the pool is all kids of the vague level "for a kid they're pretty good at X" but their actual skills differ wildly. (If you're reading this thread, you might recognise this as the dorm room fighting game champion problem.)

Oh yeah thanks for bringing up my first smash bros tourney where I got absolutely clowned on.

I say this with absolute earnesty which will unfortunately be lost on a 7 year old, I think winning even one game is a huge accomplishment and is something to be proud of. There is without a doubt some kids in that tourney who would absolutely whoop an adult's rear end if they weren't fully prepared and run circles around someone like me who doesn't know much about chess

Renegret fucked around with this message at 01:01 on Apr 17, 2024

victrix
Oct 30, 2007


what are some good learn/play with programming games?

Xand_Man
Mar 2, 2004

If what you say is true
Wutang might be dangerous


victrix posted:

what are some good learn/play with programming games?

What age?

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

victrix posted:

what are some good learn/play with programming games?

Would need to know the age, but Scratch seems to be a really great, browser-based visual programming environment.

Good-Natured Filth
Jun 8, 2008

Do you think I've got the goods Bubblegum? Cuz I am INTO this stuff!

Code.org has a lot of resources as well which you can filter by different criteria.

victrix
Oct 30, 2007


Xand_Man posted:

What age?

7, generally very logical and engineering brained, but complex coding logic and actually hand writing code would be too much

I'm thinking some kind of program robots type concept with puzzles or levels to clear by coding, but I don't know what's out there these days

TheOneAndOnlyT
Dec 18, 2005

Well well, mister fancy-pants, I hope you're wearing your matching sweater today, or you'll be cut down like the ugly tree you are.

victrix posted:

7, generally very logical and engineering brained, but complex coding logic and actually hand writing code would be too much

I'm thinking some kind of program robots type concept with puzzles or levels to clear by coding, but I don't know what's out there these days
https://store.steampowered.com/app/558990/Opus_Magnum/, maybe? It's a Zachtronics game but it's his easiest by far and the game is all about programming mechanical extendo-arms to move marbles around. The actual programming is done entirely with icons too, so your kid wouldn't have to learn a language.

The warning I'd give is that the plot (what little there is, anyway) is a bit dark and IIRC there's at least one oblique reference to sex--one of the puzzles has you creating a :airquote: vitality tonic :airquote: to help a dude in the bedroom, although nobody actually says that's what it's for outright so it might go over your kid's head. Up to you if you think it'd be okay for your kid.

EDIT: Zachtronics actually put out a page awhile back that lists all their games and describes how appropriate they are for children: https://www.zachtronics.com/zachademics/

TheOneAndOnlyT fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Apr 19, 2024

Good-Natured Filth
Jun 8, 2008

Do you think I've got the goods Bubblegum? Cuz I am INTO this stuff!

Course 1 in Code.org is basically that. You use the drag-and-drop interface to align blocks to do different things. The first 3 lessons are intro to the course and UI, but lesson 4 is where the "program your character to get through the maze" starts.

It's all in-browser, so it's pretty accessible to anyone without needing to have a specific game console.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1724140/Craftomation_101_Programming__Craft/

This looks fun, and I love While True;(Learn) (same dev).

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Paracausal
Sep 5, 2011

Oh yeah, baby. Frame your suffering as a masterpiece. Only one problem - no one's watching. It's boring, buddy, boring as death.
Fired up Grounded with the 7 year old for a bit of co-op survival. Was immediately a bit intimidating from an environment perspective and she's just getting an idea of the crafting system so hopefully in another week or two she's a bit more confident exploring

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