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Mr. Carlisle posted:I don't envy Dave having to write one legend obituary after another lately. At least it feels that way. This implies he finished them. Verne and Dusty's are still unfinished.
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Roddy Piper is dead and the last thing of note he did was piss off Steve Austin in an utterly bizarre feud centered around podcasts.
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Retromancer posted:Roddy Piper is dead and the last thing of note he did was piss of Steve Austin in an utterly bizarre feud centered around podcasts. Peak wrestling.
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Breaking News Audio up about Pipers death at F4W, lots of cool Roddy stories Roddy 
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That story about him threatening to burn down Dave's house was hilarious.
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triplexpac posted:Poor Dave will never be able to get caught up on G1 right when the news was announced he tweeted "So much for this week."
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I wish Dave didn't force himself to watch every show so we could get more long form articles from him.
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rovert posted:This implies he finished them. Verne and Dusty's are still unfinished. Looking forward to the Dr. Death obit.
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MassRafTer posted:Looking forward to the Dr. Death obit. Didn't he bascially write this in his WON HOF piece on him?
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PaybackJack posted:That story about him threatening to burn down Dave's house was hilarious. The idea of him holding the match under his chin with the lights off to intimidate Bryan is just hilarious to me.
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Jerusalem posted:Also I got a good laugh out of,"If you removed everybody who was an idiot from wrestling history, all you'd have left are a few Daniel Bryan and Finn Balor matches." Bryan's many things, but the last couple of years have made "smart" seem increasingly less likely to be on the list.
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Gaz-L posted:Bryan's many things, but the last couple of years have made "smart" seem increasingly less likely to be on the list. I assumed "idiot" ment "Bad person" because Fergal and Bryan both seem like swell guys.
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Gaz-L posted:Bryan's many things, but the last couple of years have made "smart" seem increasingly less likely to be on the list. watch what you say. american treasure karl stern said that, not chico.
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NotQuiteQuentin posted:watch what you say. american treasure karl stern said that, not chico. I believe Gaz-L was referring to Daniel Bryan doing silly things like deciding to test out his neck by doing insane headbutt spots in his matches after his comeback.
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Jerusalem posted:I believe Gaz-L was referring to Daniel Bryan doing silly things like deciding to test out his neck by doing insane headbutt spots in his matches after his comeback. oops my bad 
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John Cena is a better person than Daniel Bryan.
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coconono posted:if you have MLW vip, be sure to catch Disco Inferno stick up for Hulk Hogan. Its pretty  He's right that WWE needs better entrance music.
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coconono posted:if you have MLW vip, be sure to catch Disco Inferno stick up for Hulk Hogan. Its pretty I skip the shows with Disco for a reason.
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GoutPatrol posted:I wish Dave didn't force himself to watch every show so we could get more long form articles from him. Really. Ditch the pointless poo poo like TNA, Smackdown etc. Not necessarily so he can do more long reads, just because those shows are pointless & he doesn't seem to have any free time because of them.
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coconono posted:if you have MLW vip, be sure to catch Disco Inferno stick up for Hulk Hogan. Its pretty I could only take 10 minutes of Disco's garbage. gently caress Disco.
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mariooncrack posted:I skip the shows with Disco for a reason. I do not understand why MLW keeps bringing him and Ed Ferrara back to do shows. Neither of them are funny or have any insight, and I can't imagine that anyone smarky enough to listen to wrestling podcasts cares what they have to say. They're even worse than MSL, who is only tolerable because Konnan gives him poo poo constantly.
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I'm not going to hear that anything worthwhile came out of WWA. It had all the bullshit and insanity of 13 years of TNA packed into about 10 months.
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triplexpac posted:How dare you! Booking the invasion around Terry Funk is a great idea that would have done a huge buyrate Like the one biggest complaint against the Invasion was that it quickly turned into WWE guys vs. WWE guys who for some reason are on the other side. Then Cornette books the main event of Wrestlemania, the match that this year long storyline leads to, as Stone Cold (WWE) vs. Mick Foley (WCW) for no other reason than wanting to suck Foley's dick. We also get Hogan vs. Dusty, Rock jobbing to Sting and DDP being put into a pointless battle royal because Cornette hates everything in wrestling that happened after 1989.
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HerraS posted:Like the one biggest complaint against the Invasion was that it quickly turned into WWE guys vs. WWE guys who for some reason are on the other side. to be fair being in a pointless battle royal was what DDP did at the end of the real alliance storyline anyway so it works out
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The point of a pointless battle royale is to give all the jobber loser geeks a nice payday, you dont stick DDP in one at the culmination of a loving invasion angle because 'hurrdurr I couldnt come up with anything else for him to do'. Gotta have Jeff Jarrett and Dustin Rhodes going over the Hardys or whoever the gently caress it was!
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HerraS posted:We also get Hogan vs. Dusty This match would have been absolutely terrible but my god the crowd atmosphere would have been insane. The trouble with the Guest Booker shoots is that Sean Oliver is asking guys to pull ideas out of their rear end without much in the way of preparation, and a lot of bookers are by nature pretty deliberate thinkers/planners because booking is pretty complicated. Cornette was probably winging it for that entire video and his version of the WCW Invasion wasn't much worse than what we actually got.
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CombineThresher posted:This match would have been absolutely terrible but my god the crowd atmosphere would have been insane. Well they get told ahead of time so they can think of some ideas. The dumb thing though is that they keep them within the same limits that existed at the time, like with the WCW thing they couldn't bring in the nWo until the 11th Hour. At the end of the day anyone with a brain should know that the biggest match you could possibly make during that period should have been Goldberg vs Stone Cold at Wrestlemania and rebooking the Invasion with any other thing happening at WrestleMania is not going to do the angle the justice it deserves. If you can pretend that WWE egos would let you do whatever you wanted storyline wise, you can pretend that you'd also spend the cash to buyout Goldberg knowing that you were building to the biggest main event you could possibly make.
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PaybackJack posted:Well they get told ahead of time so they can think of some ideas. The dumb thing though is that they keep them within the same limits that existed at the time, like with the WCW thing they couldn't bring in the nWo until the 11th Hour. Forcing them to work with the limits of the time isn't stupid though because Vince was never going to buy out those huge Turner contracts. Most everyone who tries to say they could book the Invasion better always goes "AND I'D BUY OUT THE TURNER CONTRACTS!" like that's realistic. It's not.
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goc posted:Forcing them to work with the limits of the time isn't stupid though because Vince was never going to buy out those huge Turner contracts. Most everyone who tries to say they could book the Invasion better always goes "AND I'D BUY OUT THE TURNER CONTRACTS!" like that's realistic. It's not. Those people are creatively redundant and looking for easy answers they see as obvious in hindsight But then my Invasion booking amounts to 'put the Radicals back in WCW and don't turn Austin and let feuds commence' One note about this is, Vince DID try to see if WCW as a separate show was viable. Between WWF's TV negotiations, the shabby toxicity of the WCW name, and his current contract it wasn't doable. I like that he tried to see if WCW could be an ongoing brand at least for a while. It seems to be an easy potshot at Vince as if his precious ego preferred WWF standing alone vs $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ZoDiAC_ fucked around with this message at 17:43 on Aug 2, 2015 |
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goc posted:Forcing them to work with the limits of the time isn't stupid though because Vince was never going to buy out those huge Turner contracts. Most everyone who tries to say they could book the Invasion better always goes "AND I'D BUY OUT THE TURNER CONTRACTS!" like that's realistic. It's not. Considering how much money the invasion angle could have made it's not really that unrealistic. People paid huge for WCW's B team on the first invasion PPV but it quickly dropped off when it became clear that it was going to be a one sided slaughter headed up by McMahon Family bollocks. I mean they put Stephanie McMahon in charge of ECW for Christ's sake. Edit: and Vince definitely put ego before money. He had DDP turn up as a stalker to Undertaker's wife before being absolutely slaughtered by Taker, Kane and Taker's wife Sarah individually and Booker T's first meeting with The Rock involved the Rock and Booker facing off before the Rock asked "Who in the Blue Hell are you?" and beating the piss out of him, a move that would make Sting put off signing with the WWE until 2014. Gonzo McFee fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Aug 2, 2015 |
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goc posted:Forcing them to work with the limits of the time isn't stupid though because Vince was never going to buy out those huge Turner contracts. Most everyone who tries to say they could book the Invasion better always goes "AND I'D BUY OUT THE TURNER CONTRACTS!" like that's realistic. It's not. It's no less realistic than imagining that they'd actually put the WCW guys over AT ALL. My point is that cherry picking what stupid things WWE is and isn't going to do is stupid. Pretending like they'd ever let a Hogan and Dusty match be put on Wrestlemania at that point in time is easily as unrealistic as them buying out Goldberg's contract and booking him against Austin. ZoDiAC_ posted:One note about this is, Vince DID try to see if WCW as a separate show was viable. Between WWF's TV negotiations, the shabby toxicity of the WCW name, and his current contract it wasn't doable. Them acting as a separate entity was never going to happen. Even at the time WWE was still too big and couldn't split their brand like that. Best thing they could have done was try to get another TV deal for WCW on it's own and heavily promote it, but really even that would have required too much work to get running and wouldn't have had enough eyes on it in the long run; and that's assuming that you brought in the WCW personnel/style to keep it authentic. PaybackJack fucked around with this message at 18:01 on Aug 2, 2015 |
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Lol at Dave gorging himself and weighing the difference, for science.
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