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EightBit posted:What happened to that one goon that was given a cobra replica by his boss? 
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xzzy posted:It's pretty close to exactly the same size as a real Cobra so I'm not sure how it earned the "baby" designation. They just made this one a bit more curvy in spots, gives it a bit of a chubby look but it looks cool. An MX5/Miata is pretty much Cobra sized.
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Jun 17, 2016 17:56
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InitialDave posted:A Cappo is 10" less wheelbase and 20" shorter overall than a Cobra. You'd really see it parked next to one. I guess I have no idea what's going on then because I thought the picture of the Cobra at the top of the image was the car being showcased, and based on the dimensions in red it's pretty close to a real Cobra.
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Jun 17, 2016 18:01
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StormDrain posted:I assume all Cobras are replicas. I don't hate, actually love them and appreciate them as hand built cars, but not that special. I've never quite understood the distinction people make between a "real" Cobra and a "replica" Cobra. They're both hand-built one-off body-on-frame sports cars. Put the same engine in both and it's the same drat car. It's not like a replica Ferrari that is actually still a Fiero underneath with a bunch of fiberglass and Bondo on top. Like yeah I know there's a "heritage" thing or whatever but no one who actually drives the car really cares about that.
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Jun 17, 2016 18:28
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The Cobra is an exercise in driver terror. Anything after that is gilding the lily.
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Jun 17, 2016 18:48
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I started going to a new mechanic because the old place I went to was absolute poo poo at returning phone calls. He's working on this in one of his garages. 
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Jun 17, 2016 18:50
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Sagebrush posted:I've never quite understood the distinction people make between a "real" Cobra and a "replica" Cobra. They're both hand-built one-off body-on-frame sports cars. Put the same engine in both and it's the same drat car. It's not like a replica Ferrari that is actually still a Fiero underneath with a bunch of fiberglass and Bondo on top. Well, that's kinda the thing. The most common replica Cobras are things like the Factory Five cars, which while cool, have a completely different suspension and body. Not to say that the original Cobras didn't have some parts bin stuff going on - the chassis was made in England after all, and the British were notorious for that - but it sure as hell didn't raid the Fox Mustang parts bin, and they sure as hell weren't using fiberglass bodies. So a lot of the kits kind of are similar to your replica Ferrari example - you've got something Cobra shaped, that does a lot of the things a Cobra does, and may even work better, but that doesn't mean it's the same.
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Jun 17, 2016 19:04
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Matt Farah's write up of driving the Pontibishi... http://www.thedrive.com/vintage/4048/driving-death-fiero-just-to-feel-feelings-againquote:I’ve reviewed over 300 cars in the last 18 months. And I’m bored. The average enthusiast's car porn is my Skinemax. Which is how I eventually found myself craving scheisse porn.
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Jun 17, 2016 19:15
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Sagebrush posted:I've never quite understood the distinction people make between a "real" Cobra and a "replica" Cobra. They're both hand-built one-off body-on-frame sports cars. Put the same engine in both and it's the same drat car. It's not like a replica Ferrari that is actually still a Fiero underneath with a bunch of fiberglass and Bondo on top. Goon doesn't understand abstract value. This news and more at 11. The gently caress would pay a bajillion dollars for the Mona Lisa when I can just get the poster from the gift shop? Stupid old poo poo.
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Jun 17, 2016 19:20
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AFewBricksShy posted:I started going to a new mechanic because the old place I went to was absolute poo poo at returning phone calls. Whereabouts is this? I think I've seen this car race in the vintage events at OCFS. e- also on the replica cobra deal, unless it's a high quality replica everything under the car is different. suspension, geometry etc etc
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Jun 17, 2016 19:38
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88h88 posted:Matt Farah's write up of driving the Pontibishi... http://www.thedrive.com/vintage/4048/driving-death-fiero-just-to-feel-feelings-again That took me on a journey.
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Jun 17, 2016 19:53
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VikingSkull posted:Whereabouts is this? I think I've seen this car race in the vintage events at OCFS. Landsdale, PA, about 45 minutes north west of Philly. I spoke to the owner briefly, but I don't remember how he came to have an FDNY race car. It has some tie to a 9/11 memorial if I recall correctly. The owner was nice enough to let my 8yo son sit in the driver's seat while he and the mechanic were doing some engine work.
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Jun 17, 2016 19:55
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AFewBricksShy posted:Landsdale, PA, about 45 minutes north west of Philly. I spoke to the owner briefly, but I don't remember how he came to have an FDNY race car. It has some tie to a 9/11 memorial if I recall correctly. Yeah, there's a few 9/11 tribute cars around, especially in the lower tier of NY where I'm at. My county lost something like 100 people on 9/11, including IIRC 23 firefighters. There's also a street legal, modern dirt modified that a fire department here has for parades and poo poo, it's pretty cool. And yeah, modified guys are great with kids. First race car I ever sat in was this rather famous car in 1986, my dad snuck me into the pits (no children allowed back then, no women either IIRC) to visit his friends from his racing days. Eddie never even hesitated, soon as we walked up and my dad said hi, he snatched me up, stuffed me in the car and lit it off. That was the moment I got hooked on race cars hopelessly.
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Jun 17, 2016 20:03
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Sagebrush posted:I've never quite understood the distinction people make between a "real" Cobra and a "replica" Cobra. They're both hand-built one-off body-on-frame sports cars. Put the same engine in both and it's the same drat car. It's not like a replica Ferrari that is actually still a Fiero underneath with a bunch of fiberglass and Bondo on top. But that's not such a bad thing given how crude the originals are. They are an objectively poor car, and aside from their legendary widowmaker tendencies, there are stories like having to wire the doors shut for racing because the whole thing flexed so much under cornering they would pop open. I guess there are tiers. On the bottom rung, you have a lot of the lookalike kits from the bad old days of kit cars, expecially here, with a poxy little 4-pot and whatever random mechanicals were convenient slung under a very basic chassis and body (supposedly, a lot of the UK kits all have one door slightly larger than the other, as they all originate from the same mould taken from an accident-repaired original). Then you have the same kind of thing, but with a halfway-appropriate engine, then a better chassis and body, perhaps with the more correct Ford motor, and then after that you start getting into cars that are effectively better than real ones in most respects, save for the provenance. Does the provenance matter? I guess that's a personal thing. Does it matter with any physical collectors item or historic artifact? My take is that it does, if it's important to you. Assuming the loopy pricing wasn't an issue, I can see how to drive a real car, with fifty years of history under it, is more of the Cobra experience than even a perfect replica, and there's a point where a car being "too good" actually detracts from it, at least as being a "replica". It kind of becomes the mirror image of a lovely, 100bhp lash-up kit. One of the cars I would like a replica of is the Jaguar XJ220. Objectively, if you built one, you'd use an LS V8, because of the obvious advantages they have with availability and usability - but I'd rather have a twin-turbo V6 because it's meant to have one. I think how someone feels about Cobras would be reflected in whether or not you understand why I think that.
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Jun 17, 2016 20:23
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I dunno, I wouldn't quibble about how authentic a Superformance Cobra is given they are supposed to be exact replicas.
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Jun 17, 2016 20:48
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Given as how 15 seconds of glancing at the specs on their site reveals things like "fiberglass body" and "Wilwood brakes" no, they're not exact replicas. I won't speak to how much anyone cares to split hairs about "close enough" though; I'd sure as hell drive one.
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Jun 17, 2016 21:14
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Yea it's more than close enough.
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Jun 17, 2016 21:15
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Most people in the market for a Cobra replica aren't going to care if it's so precise that you have the awful suspension and body flex. Personally, I would want one that looked the part but was much safer.
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Jun 17, 2016 21:19
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Certainly we can all understand the difference between "it's the same" in the sense that it drives the same (or better) and also that original Cobras based on pedigree are worth considerably more money.
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Jun 17, 2016 21:20
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Jun 17, 2016 21:28
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Drive it til the wheels fall off
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InitialDave posted:One of the cars I would like a replica of is the Jaguar XJ220. Objectively, if you built one, you'd use an LS V8, because of the obvious advantages they have with availability and usability - but I'd rather have a twin-turbo V6 because it's meant to have one. Question: it was meant to have a V12 and the prototype has one and looks right but production cars have the TTV6. Would you even consider putting a V12 in?
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Jun 17, 2016 21:36
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Never Lift.
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Speaking of never lift. Edit: this is the track like five minutes from my house and we were there that night. loving bonkers.
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Jun 17, 2016 22:34
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I love buying parts from this shop. That's also a eurospec S50B32 M3 in there, shop owner's car.    
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Cakefool posted:Question: it was meant to have a V12 and the prototype has one and looks right but production cars have the TTV6. Would you even consider putting a V12 in? Plus the Jag V12 it should have (and in the prototype) is a 4-valve DOHC design like the Le Mans XJR-9, so that right there would be  to replicate. I don't think a normal Jag V12 would be "right", and so the most likely candidates would be a Mercedes V12 or VAG W12, and that just seems a bit wrong to me.Now, obviously, the proper Metro 6R4 lump is also , but I think a Buick 3800 would be suitable, as they're very well supported for all kinds of mods, there's no shortage of people making "appropriate" power with turbo ones, plus there's a little bit of circular logic I like in that a lot of people say the 6R4 engine is a Rover V8 with two cylinders lopped off, which it isn't, but the 3800 does (sort of) relate to the Rover.I just kind of like having this kind of stuff ticking over in the back of my head when I'm bored sometimes.
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freelop posted:Drive it til the wheels fall off hey hey hey hey smoke weed every day?
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Jun 18, 2016 01:37
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Maker Of Shoes posted:Goon doesn't understand abstract value. This news and more at 11. More like people rolling their eyes at the poster because it's not the real one. I'm on his side on this one, the better replicas are cool as well and are probably of higher build quality than the average new Chrysler. Not that they are AS cool as originals, but they don't deserve to be ignored. Godholio fucked around with this message at 04:18 on Jun 18, 2016 |
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Godholio posted:and are probably of higher build quality than the average new Chrysler. A scathing endorsement if I've ever read one.
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Sagebrush posted:I've never quite understood the distinction people make between a "real" Cobra and a "replica" Cobra. They're both hand-built one-off body-on-frame sports cars. Put the same engine in both and it's the same drat car. It's not like a replica Ferrari that is actually still a Fiero underneath with a bunch of fiberglass and Bondo on top. The biggest difference is that an original sells for $800,000+ and is still appreciating, while a replica might go for $40-60K. As others have pointed out the replicas are better cars in every aspect.
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Jun 18, 2016 13:51
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Good points, most of which I either didn't know or had forgotten.
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Crustashio posted:I love buying parts from this shop. That's also a eurospec S50B32 M3 in there, shop owner's car. That's fanatastic. Great color to boot!
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fyodor posted:I dunno, I wouldn't quibble about how authentic a Superformance Cobra is given they are supposed to be exact replicas. Superformance "FIA" spec Cobras and GT40s are the exception to general "replicas". They are exact enough to run in FIA historic races (Think Oldtimer Grand Prix, Goodwood etc.). Superformance GT40s are not spaceframe and glassfibre like most replicas. They have pressed steel monocoques just like the real thing. The Cobra is much easier to replicate or something like Lola T70. Pur Sang is another but even more extreme example.
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I think I've posted this before, but it looked especially good this morning. Best car: 
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Many years ago, sometime around 2000, Walmart use to sell model cars you assembled and I loved that poo poo. I think they were usually around $10 and up. For whatever reason they stopped selling them, and I forgot about them. Until today, when I came across this at Ollie's (a 'big lots'/ miscellaneous poo poo type store) Anyone else ever get into these? Some of them were really intricate and you could paint and assemble individual outer engine parts I also got on Ebay to see what other kits might be around:  Well....if that isn't pretty drat metal. Too bad it appears to sell for hundreds
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2000 is not many years ago.  Every car nerd kid spent hours in the model kit aisle obsessing over which Revell kit to buy, and which Testors paints were the right choice (and then loving up painting the body and hating the model). edit - also learning to despise the application of decals. or painting camouflage.
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Jun 20, 2016 00:13
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I remember having the Pontiac Banshee kit by Revell back in the early/mid 90s. That thing was awesome
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Dr.Caligari posted:Many years ago, sometime around 2000, Walmart use to sell model cars you assembled and I loved that poo poo. I think they were usually around $10 and up. For whatever reason they stopped selling them, and I forgot about them. Until today, when I came across this at Ollie's (a 'big lots'/ miscellaneous poo poo type store) You'll probably want to check out this thread then.
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Don't do it, you'll be lost forever like me.
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Dr.Caligari posted:Many years ago, sometime around 2000, Walmart use to sell model cars you assembled and I loved that poo poo. I think they were usually around $10 and up. For whatever reason they stopped selling them, and I forgot about them. Until today, when I came across this at Ollie's (a 'big lots'/ miscellaneous poo poo type store) 
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