Breetai posted:

Okay.

Mirthless posted:

This is why people with mental health problems have to meticulously hide them from everyone, even the people they love. Her stupid murder fiction isn't hurting anyone. She's not policing his interactions with the women he interacts with, she's not stalking people, she's not threatening him or anyone else. She had a therapy journal she wrote words in.


Equally understanding because writing therapy is a thing and the poo poo you put in your journal is supposed to be sacrosanct. You don't sit in on your partner's therapy sessions and you don't read their loving journal!

Mirthless posted:

Equally understanding because writing therapy is a thing and the poo poo you put in your journal is supposed to be sacrosanct. You don't sit in on your partner's therapy sessions and you don't read their loving journal!

new phone who dis posted:

Writing a journal detailing your emotions in attempt to work through them isn't the same thing as writing elaborate torture porn in secret about all the women you are jealous of. If you can find me a therapist who says writing obsessively violent fantasies about real life people for perceived slights is healthy then maybe I'll believe you.

Mirthless posted:

This is why people with mental health problems have to meticulously hide them from everyone, even the people they love. Her stupid murder fiction isn't hurting anyone. She's not policing his interactions with the women he interacts with, she's not stalking people, she's not threatening him or anyone else. She had a therapy journal she wrote words in.


Equally understanding because writing therapy is a thing and the poo poo you put in your journal is supposed to be sacrosanct. You don't sit in on your partner's therapy sessions and you don't read their loving journal!

Psycho Society posted:

My hot take is that she's crazy as a coconut, but what does that mean?

WampaLord posted:

You are again expecting people to be psychic. How is he supposed to know it's a therapy journal, he probably doesn't even realize therapy journals are a thing.

Again, his wife is a writer, it is normal for him to read things she has written down.

Mirthless posted:

The whole point of writing therapy is dealing with your extreme emotions. Yes, the things she writes in the journal are extreme, revealing, and possibly disgusting. She wrote those things because they were never meant to be read and it is a means to vent her feelings. Do you really think she wants to murder people? Because I have to tell you, fiction books aren't real. The Hobbit is a story about a fictional character. He does not really fight trolls, or kill giant spiders. There aren't actually elves. They don't ride barrels to a river town, they don't sneak into a mountain lair, and Smaug is not a real dragon, he is a fake dragon, he was made up.

Mirthless posted:

The whole point of writing therapy is dealing with your extreme emotions. Yes, the things she writes in the journal are extreme, revealing, and possibly disgusting. She wrote those things because they were never meant to be read and it is a means to vent her feelings. Do you really think she wants to murder people? Because I have to tell you, fiction books aren't real. The Hobbit is a story about a fictional character. He does not really fight trolls, or kill giant spiders. There aren't actually elves. They don't ride barrels to a river town, they don't sneak into a mountain lair, and Smaug is not a real dragon, he is a fake dragon, he was made up.

Helios Grime posted:

It sucks that they are 10 years into their marriage and he didn't notice any other weird behavior.

Mirthless posted:

Maybe because there wasn't any, because she's a well-adjusted person in therapy????

"I DEMANDED my wife let me sit in on her therapy sessions and in the session she said she has trouble with managing her anger! How do I deal with this violent sociopath, Reddit?"

Parsley posted:

Even for a venting journal, it is pretty weird to put that much effort and attention into the whole thing. When your vent has a narrative, it's maybe worth looking internally at why.

Or Ellen really is a slag.

Mirthless posted:

Maybe because there wasn't any, because she's a well-adjusted person in therapy????

"I DEMANDED my wife let me sit in on her therapy sessions and in the session she said she has trouble with managing her anger! How do I deal with this violent sociopath, Reddit?"

Mirthless posted:

"MY PARTNER SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO PRIVATELY THINK AND FEEL THINGS I DO NOT LIKE"

DragQueenofAngmar posted:

There is a difference between therapeutic journaling, wherein one lays out the difficult thoughts and emotions they struggle to keep in check, and on the other hand channeling these negative feelings into a whole mythology you can return to and tweak where you torture the objects of your (entirely misplaced) rage in vengeful, sadistic ways?

54 40 or gently caress posted:

Oh my god mirthless please. I think it's weird when people obsess over a particular poster but seriously you gotta lay off. Put in your two cents and move on instead of arguing whether or not it's loving weird for an adult to write murder friendfiction (it is).

Get out of here with that stigmatizing mental health poo poo and stay in your lane. That you think writing violent fantasies out is a therapy tactic is stigmatizing in and of itself. That isn't healthy.

54 40 or gently caress posted:

No half measures, my friend.

DragQueenofAngmar posted:

There is a difference between therapeutic journaling, wherein one lays out the difficult thoughts and emotions they struggle to keep in check, and on the other hand channeling these negative feelings into a whole mythology you can return to and tweak where you torture the objects of your (entirely misplaced) rage in vengeful, sadistic ways?

Jeza posted:

Is it a worrisome that a person would keep a fantasy diary of torturing to death their husband's female acquaintances for trivial transgressions? Who can say. At this point I fully expect goons to crop up and attack somebody who's worried when he finds that his wife has piles of butchered children in a murder basement because he was prying on his wife's private therapy, and she needs to feed on their blood to hold the demons in her head from breaking through.

Mirthless posted:

that time I got called an ableist for getting offended at somebody invading their partner's therapy while snooping in their private possessions

Mirthless posted:

that time I got called an ableist for getting offended at somebody invading their partner's therapy while snooping in their private possessions

Jeza posted:

Is it a worrisome that a person would keep a fantasy diary of torturing to death their husband's female acquaintances for trivial transgressions? Who can say. At this point I fully expect goons to crop up and attack somebody who's worried when he finds that his wife has piles of butchered children in a murder basement because he was prying on his wife's private therapy, and she needs to feed on their blood to hold the demons in her head from breaking through.

Jeza posted:

Is it a worrisome that a person would keep a fantasy diary of torturing to death their husband's female acquaintances for trivial transgressions? Who can say. At this point I fully expect goons to crop up and attack somebody who's worried when he finds that his wife has piles of butchered children in a murder basement because he was prying on his wife's private therapy, and she needs to feed on their blood to hold the demons in her head from breaking through.

Yawgmoth posted:

What a horrifying reality we live in that I agree with Mirthless on something.

Just don't snoop through your SO's poo poo, how is that hard?

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About a year ago my wife told me that she wants to see a therapist and I was cool with that. She told me that it's mostly about herself and self improvement and when she feels ready, she will involve me as well. This looked all fine to me. We've been married for 13 years have two kids and both of us would say that our lives, while not perfect, is good and we're both happy.

Today, she told me that she wants me to see her with her therapist. I hadn't checked up the therapist before, but when I did I noticed that this person is not a real therapist. No relevant degrees, no license, no relevant certifications or professional memberships. When I asked my wife about it she says that she is sort of "life coaching" her and is working based on personal experience.

This has made me incredibly uncomfoetable. I have nothing against therapists. I've been seeing one myself for years. A real one. But I'm not at all comfortable to just go and talk about my personal life and marriage to someone who isn't under legal and professional obligations to follow the proper ethical guidelines when it comes to offering therapy, counseling and mental health treatments. Would I let someone without the proper training and certifications to examine my body and give me medical council? I see this as no different. And the thought that my wife has been talking to this person about our life, marriage, etc is really concerning to me.

I told my wife that I will not see this person and I'm upset that she has chosen a non-therapist to talk to about our lives, also offered that I'm happy to see a real therapist with her (mine or someone new). She said she will have to start over and it will take time which I understand, but seriously I believe you need to seek the people who know what they're doing who follow clear professional ethical guidelines when it comes to sharing personal information with them.

In the end she seemed very upset and I did too, and I've began to feel that maybe I did something wrong or maybe my reaction was strong. Just thought some outside opinion might help.

tl;dr: wife has been seeing a therapist that isn't a real therapist for a year and now wants me to see her too. Do I have a right to be upset about this?

zakharov posted:

The more everyone calls him an idiot the more Mirthless is convinced he's right and good.

What man in the news does that remind you of?

WampaLord posted:

Jumping off the theme of "Claims to be therapy:"

Wife [36F] is seeing a non-therapist therapist and wants me [39M] to see her too. Do I have a right to be upset here?

Pvt.Scott posted:

Mirthless, have you been missing any doses of your meds? My post frequency goes way up when I'm unstable. Just sayin'.

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Does this bother anyone else? (self.childfree)
submitted 23 hours ago * by KirbyGrace11
I'm very Anti-IVF. Not that anything will be done about it but I really believe that if your genetics & health don't permit you to have a baby, then you should either get the help and therapy you need to get over the issue or stop being so closed-hearted and adopt a kid (or foster, volunteer, teach, or be a Big Brother/Big Sister). If people would fight that hard to have a baby, then maybe society should reconsider allowing Infertile Myrtles to get it. On top of being horribly expensive, it is also very invasive, can cause multiple health problems, and the success rates are low (and if the small chance of success does happen, you're only passing on the likely fertility issues to your kid and that shouldn't be allowed). It's not the end of the world if you don't pass on your DNA. It's really not and people should know better than to chase what's obviously not in the cards for them. Get over it. IVF needs to be outlawed everywhere in my opinion. IVF only allows the entitled, childish, and selfish to make more of themselves. How this BS became a thing in the first place for people to breed I'll never know. The world's also suffering from overpopulation. Even more reason for IVF to be banned.

54 40 or gently caress posted: