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Suspicious Cook posted:I think it's more that Nintendo commonly has a basic game/tech demo for their consoles to show off the new gimmicks like Wii Sports or Nintendo Land. People don't particularly want 1 2 Switch but just think it's strange that it isn't following tradition and being a pack in. I sure don't have any interest in it, but I'd at least try it if I got it for free. Well, maybe. I'd also have Zelda and I sure wouldn't take that out of my console for a $60 copy of the quick draw minigame from Kirby Super Star. It's more the sense that it feels like they're simultaneously insulting it and saying they're leaving money on the table by not including it, and I just ??? But man. Nintendoland was a really underappreciated gem.
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well why not posted:Hey so why is no one talking about Snipperclips? That game looks incredibly fun, unique and has a March release date. There's not really anything to say about it, I guess. I'm glad that it exists because it's exactly the kind of game that my wife (whose interest in video games is limited to Pokemon and Fire Emblem) and I can couch co-op.
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lelandjs posted:There's not really anything to say about it, I guess. I'm glad that it exists because it's exactly the kind of game that my wife (whose interest in video games is limited to Pokemon and Fire Emblem) and I can couch co-op. Yeah, I will be getting this to play with the Mrs as well.
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fat bossy gerbil posted:Did anyone actually expect Nintendo to change their ways? I mean....not really, but even I have to try and balance my cynicism for Nintendo with SOME degree of optimism. Seriously though, what is it going to take at this point for them to get a clue? A failure on par with the Virtual Boy?
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TFRazorsaw posted:Nintendoland was a really underappreciated gem. My friends and I ended up having more fun with Game and Wario than Nintendoland, though the Animal Crossing game got a decent amount of play.
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Utnayan posted:drat right buddy. Uhhhhh I'm pretty sure NoA doesn't make these kinds of decisions. They basically have a seat on the board, and they only got that last summer.
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greatn posted:Uhhhhh I'm pretty sure NoA doesn't make these kinds of decisions. They basically have a seat on the board, and they only got that last summer. Yeah, it's been blatant for years that NOA essentially has zero influence on Nintendo's decisions.
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Jan 14, 2017 18:04
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Utnayan posted:drat right buddy. I don't wanna tell y'all how to do your posting, but if it were me I'd be constantly and relentlessly posting "source your quotes" at this guy.
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Med School posted:Oh ok! Got it! This guy is just angry because he's an old man. I was born in 73. Fell in love with gaming when I played Pong at age 4 at a buddies house when a pong home console came out. Had the benefit of playing Dig Dug and Tron in the arcade while listening to loving Styx and Aerosmith. Watching people play Dragon's lair with the 27" display on top of the arcade unit so 23 people could watch. It was an epic loving time. I am sorry you missed it. With that said, I have seen millions of changes and moving the cheese. And Nintendo needs to find the new corner, and they have needed to find the new corner for over 15 loving years now. And if we blow sunshine up their asses so everyone preorders this garbage poo poo with no value behind their paywalls, we won't get anything better. Because in the end, money talks. What is purely frustrating? Money talked with the Wii U? And they are still loving this up 160% beyond that console and digging a further hole. It isn't getting better. It's getting worse with these idiots. And it loving sucks seeing it. Almost as much as seeing some rear end hats here trying to defend it.
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Conversations around the Switch basically go "Hey, there's a new Zelda game for something called the Nintendo Switch. It's also on Wii U but literally no one owns that so you may as well get the new console".
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Utnayan posted:I was born in 73. Fell in love with gaming when I played Pong at age 4 at a buddies house when a pong home console came out. Had the benefit of playing Dig Dug and Tron in the arcade while listening to loving Styx and Aerosmith. Watching people play Dragon's lair with the 27" display on top of the arcade unit so 23 people could watch. It was an epic loving time. I am sorry you missed it. i think you're too invested in this thread right now
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I like that we let a mentally ill man rant and rave, and I caught a sixer for taking the piss out of the N64
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MMF Freeway posted:I don't wanna tell y'all how to do your posting, but if it were me I'd be constantly and relentlessly posting "source your quotes" at this guy. That doesn't make any sense what so ever. Source what? Everything I stated was shown on a loving stream and we all know the NES classic has a poo poo 1 foot cord to the controller. 
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Utnayan posted:That doesn't make any sense what so ever. Source what? Everything I stated was shown on a loving stream and we all know the NES classic has a poo poo 1 foot cord to the controller. Lol
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I am interested because I thought the Vita was pretty cool and wouldn't mind and updated and supported Vita. But I'm not even sure this counts as updated and supported. I have a pre-order and just added the three games I'd buy in 2017. And then I think about cancelling it all and maybe trying the new Nvidia Shield instead, for a lot less money.
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There is definitely a cultural component to Nintendo's decisions. It's a "gently caress what the world wants" (AKA the vast majority of their consumers) and we don't want their input. We know what is best because decades ago you could go to Akihabara and get the best technology in the world, but now you can buy second hand printers and phones you've never heard of.
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I think ARMS looks great the more I see of it. Really gives me some Punch Out Teleroboxer vibes and I love the character design. The combat seems to have some cool strategic choices.
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what exactly is "locked" behind a paywall on the Switch again? Besides online I guess. We don't even know what that's gonna cost. Oh no, I have to charge my controllers with 20 hours of battery life by reattaching it to the system while I'm asleep. How dare Nintendo.
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well why not posted:i think you're too invested in this thread right now Why? Because I love games and like talking about them and call a spade a spade? I have some free time that opened up and you are still here replying, on an internet forum. Where we collectively like to talk and trash our hobby and want to see changes made. I dunno man, why are you here then?
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Utnayan posted:I can explain. Because I can also realize the faults of VR and not hamstring it. Oh, I will also not tell the OP of this thread that he should have waited until launch day. Like a thread embargo. Holy gently caress man. You realize he is the OP of this thread right?
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Soul Glo posted:I like that we let a mentally ill man rant and rave, and I caught a sixer for taking the piss out of the N64 yo, don't go there man.
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I don't think Nintendo made any "bad' decisions with the Switch, besides the paid multiplayer/rental VC titles. Longer battery life would have be nice, but to get that they would have either needed to make the console bigger or the screen resolution smaller, and I think the balance they went with makes sense. And just because waggle games exist doesn't mean that Nintendo is gonna be forcing it on every game like they did with the Wii. BoTW doesn't use motion controls at all and even Arms, which will probably be a better experience if you use motion controls, will support traditional button mashing. Don't get me wrong, if you look through my posts I was salty as gently caress watching the presentation, but now that I've had a chance to look at the launch window games and the console a bit more, I'm actually fairly confident that Nintendo knows what they're doing this time around. 1-2 Switch being $50 is silly... but I'm probably gonna buy it anyway because goofy, vuagely sexual waggle games are always a blast with friends, especially if everyone is wasted.
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The best thing about the switch is that i'll be able to get a wiiu for pennies in a few months so that I can play the new Zelda edit: also, Utnayan is 100% right
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XyrlocShammypants posted:In the weirdest way I am almost more excited for Arms than any other game now, except maybe Zelda. Why is this game growing on me? It has some to have some of the same qualities that Splatoon did when it was revealed: good motion control usage, tight controls, amazing visual style. I have no interest in the game myself, but I think people who buy it will not be disappointed.
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TFRazorsaw posted:what exactly is "locked" behind a paywall on the Switch again? Besides online I guess. We don't even know what that's gonna cost. What? They just put online behind a paywall with limited features we are all used to as a standard with Sony and Microsoft, and to go a step further, based it on a second device. Are you loving serious right now? 70 bucks for a pro controller? 90 for two more joy fucks? $299 for a console with hardware developed in 2010? No mention of home application features like Netflix and Amazon Prime? Charging a subscription for an unproven online service with NES/SNES games that have been in a closet for 30 loving years and only letting you play one at a time for a month and then you have to buy it when everyone else is giving those games away and you can keep them as long as you stay subscribed? Maybe the term Paywall is not the right term. How about loving you up the rear end with a Visa card and giving you 10% of the benefits of the competition. How does that sound buddy?
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TaurusOxford posted:I mean....not really, but even I have to try and balance my cynicism for Nintendo with SOME degree of optimism. They won't, people don't change, and you won't actually listen to this and modify your expectations because funnily enough people don't change.
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Oh yeah, they did gently caress up by making the Joycons and dock unbelievably loving expensive. I'm sure that third parties will make a ~$35 cable to replace the dock but I'm not really looking forward to dropping roughly $130 on two more Joycons and a charger so I can play four player Mario Kart, and there's no way around it, either.
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Utnayan posted:What? The only thing I need to enjoy the console out of box to its fullest extent is to pay for online. I don't need all those peripherals. The paid online thing exists because the industry has more or less forced them to do it. And if you want to see if they can prove themselves then there's gonna be a trial period for the first half of a year where everything is free. That tells me they know exactly that everyone is nervous about whether they can handle it and want to test the waters. As for the voice chat thing, it doesn't bother me because using a third party application through Discord is preferable to in game voice chat by any conceivable metric and I'm going to be using my god damned phone or PC anyway.
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Why do people keep saying joycons are $90? It's not much of a difference but I'm fairly sure they're $80. Also before complaining about the online I'll see if the trial is any good and how much they're actually going to charge, and wait to hear or see some details. That trial needs to be fit the first half of the year from when you buy the system though, not for launch. People who buy at Christmas need to be able to try before they buy.
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lelandjs posted:I don't think Nintendo made any "bad' decisions with the Switch, besides the paid multiplayer/rental VC titles. Longer battery life would have be nice, but to get that they would have either needed to make the console bigger or the screen resolution smaller, and I think the balance they went with makes sense. This is a good post. I disagree, because I am looking at the longevity of the company and 3rd party support along with value being given to the customer. 1) Online subscription should include access to all the NES/SNES games. Everyone would subscribe to that, and they would make money on a mod market where they do not capture the revenue. 2) They marketed the console to play with friends with 4 controllers, but neglect to tell you that you will be paying $90 for the other 2 controllers, with an application that just purely doesn't loving exist anyway. 3) They are using dated hardware and trying to make a profit on the hardware. They should be loss leading the hardware to build a base for install and recoup revenue on licensing. This method only hampers the experience for everyone where 4k gaming, VR, and graphics and sound DO NOT MEAN THEY ARE BETTER GAMES, but are BECOMING STANDARD EXPECTATIONS ALONG WITH THE FUN. 4) The launch line up is weak as gently caress aside from Zelda. Which is launching on the Wii U at the same time (A huge mistake if they wanted to drive sales) And Mario Kart is a loving port and they couldn't even launch with that. 5) 1.2 should be a pack in. Period. We agree on that though. 6) They made a great decision in combining home and portable development on one technical platform. They hosed that up with a poor battery life to where they actually said a minimum of 1.5 hours to 6 hours depending on the game. 1.5 hours for Skyrim? That is probably where they got that number. And they are touting a game which everyone has played already countless times over the last 5 loving years it has been in the market. While Xbox and PS have mods on their consoles, no mention of that because they are so loving behind the times they cannot even think past Mario Maker. Utnayan fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Jan 14, 2017 |
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Utnayan posted:Why? Because I love games and like talking about them and call a spade a spade? I have some free time that opened up and you are still here replying, on an internet forum. Where we collectively like to talk and trash our hobby and want to see changes made. I dunno man, why are you here then? You're gonna buy a switch on launch day aren't you?
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It was confirmed previously that the Wii U pro controllers would work with the Switch right?TFRazorsaw posted:also adjusted for inflation, the Switch is the 4th cheapest console launch of all time. It's still pretty amazing that AAA games tend to be 50-60 USD considering that plenty of NES games cost that much, or more. I think I paid 70 or 80 for Gauntlet 2 as a kid. Decius posted:Not excited, but after I learned the hard way how fragile the exposed Vita digitizer is, I preordered it, because gently caress breaking a 320 € thing because it lodged badly in your bag. You could cancel your preorder and just get the collector or master edition of BotW since it comes with a cool looking Switch carrying case. XyrlocShammypants posted:Nintendo cloud service confirmed? 
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greatn posted:Why do people keep saying joycons are $90? It's not much of a difference but I'm fairly sure they're $80. They're including sales tax?
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TaurusOxford posted:Yeah, it's been blatant for years that NOA essentially has zero influence on Nintendo's decisions. Technically, Iwata made himself the CEO of NoA in 2013. So the man in charge of NoA had the ear of the CEO of the entire company... who was himself. The move also promoted the former CEO of NoA, Tatsumi Kimishima, into the board of directors. He's CEO of the company now.
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