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If you have an Intel based Chromebook you should be able to just grab your choice of source port and go wild. For the ARM chromebooks, Chocolate doom might be your only choice.
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PRBoom compiles on ARM architectures, it's used for a lot of the Android DOOM engines, and is used for DOOM for the Nintendo DS (also an ARM system).
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Jun 26, 2015 18:48
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Bread Pudding posted:Oh TecToy, you crazy bastards. Those gloves kick rear end and you know it 
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Jun 26, 2015 18:48
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I'm running Ubuntu on an ARM Chromebook. Is PrBoom compatible with any PWADs PrBoom+ would be compatible with? If so that's probably my best bet.
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Jun 26, 2015 18:57
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apophenium posted:I'm running Ubuntu on an ARM Chromebook. Is PrBoom compatible with any PWADs PrBoom+ would be compatible with? If so that's probably my best bet. Yes. The only difference is PrBoom+ has some extra features that are mostly handy for dudes who record demos. The level compatibility is the same.
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Jun 26, 2015 19:20
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MONKET posted:Those gloves kick rear end and you know it Then again, I almost never use Doom's chainsaw, either, except as an absolute last resort. Much prefer using one of the two shotguns if I'm going to be at point-blank range with an enemy. Also, I just learned that Wolfenstein (2009) has Tomes of Power, complete with a metal skull and Heretic symbols on the cover. That is awesome.
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Jun 26, 2015 20:29
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The Kins posted:The "Carmack's Reverse" technique was replaced in the source code release and BFG Edition with a less optimized means of doing much the same thing. The lack of shadows casting from your flashlight was apparently a deliberate change because Carmack thought it looked ugly. I think they added an option to turn it back on in a patch? I don't think it was Carmack, but that's otherwise basically correct: flashlight casting shadows were removed since it created some very ugly shadows, and were re-added later on I think even in the UI as an option, but definitely a console setting. All the other lighting is the same, or improved, over D3 (lights were added in a lot of places since the tech + computers/consoles could actually handle it without dying) As I understood it, the always on flashlight wasn't in D3 because of performance reasons. People even complained about the duct tape mod slowing things down in high action sequences back then.
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Jun 26, 2015 21:02
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Played a few more custom Quake 1 SP maps. Tower of Dal Gurak : This map is big and has an assload of enemies (over 300 in Hard!). The map has three new enemies; a large, Quake-ified version of the Imp from Heretic, an Ogre that fires a spread of nails instead of a single grenade, and a goat dude that summons the Heretic Imps from earlier and shoots a small wave of very powerful electric balls. You can now carry 250 shells and nails, and you will need most of them. This map is great for testing your Quake combat mettle, as it gives you a lot of different scenarios to test your skills on and you don't have the full arsenal to easily kill everyone with. In fact, you'll be spending most of your time with just the Super Shotgun, Nailgun, and Grenade Launcher, with the Super Nailgun only appearing at the end (and you will need it after you get it, trust me!) This map is great for in-fighting fans, as you can make things a lot easier by making enemies fight (in fact, one room pretty much requires it!). The map flows well, with no obvious issues. One neat thing about it is that the map has two paths at the very start, which converge to one main path about 1/4th into the map. One path frontloads the difficulty at the start and has some Spawns to deal with near the end, but it gets you on the main path faster. Highly recommended. Rubicon: I wasn't sold on this map when first playing it, but looking back, it's quite good, though I think the newer base maps I've played are better. The gimmick is pretty cool; it's a Base map, but most of your ammo pickups come from dead Grunts, not ammo boxes laying around. You get a Nailgun, but the ammo for it is so limited that it's literally an emergency weapon. You get the Super Shotgun about halfway through, and you will be quite happy when you get it. The map design is straightforward; a minuscule amount of backtracking and it's impossible to get lost. My main issue is that the map is way too stingy with health pickups; there's about less than a dozen of them total, which sucks when you're dealing with hitscan enemies. Once you get used to how it plays, it's quite fun and worth a play. And All That Could Have Been: This map uses the base theme and looks quite good. Some really cool brushwork makes the map stand out visually and makes the map a must-play for anyone interested in how good Quake 1 can look. Combat is good; there's a lot of non-base enemies in this map, so you'll be dodging Ogre grenades while being shot at by Enforcers and Grunts. Props to the last fight, which starts out simple, but ends with two Shamblers, two Ogres, a Fiend, and six Enforcers hitting you at once in a multi-level arena. Good positioning and a full Super Nailgun, which you get just before entering the arena, are essential for survival. As far as base maps go, I enjoyed it more than Rubicon and it shows how ading non-base enemies really spices up base maps' combat.
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Jun 26, 2015 21:48
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Shadow Hog posted:Also, I just learned that Wolfenstein (2009) has Tomes of Power, complete with a metal skull and Heretic symbols on the cover. That is awesome.  Raven are wasted on COD map packs, I tell you.
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Jun 26, 2015 22:11
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Shadow Hog posted:Also, I just learned that Wolfenstein (2009) has Tomes of Power, complete with a metal skull and Heretic symbols on the cover. That is awesome. Hell yeah it does, Wolf '09 is great. Shame it seems to have pretty much been forgotten. (poo poo, did they ever put it back on Steam, even?) rip Raven (technically not but being forced to crank out COD map packs is a fate worse than death for a classic FPS dev)
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Jun 26, 2015 22:32
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apophenium posted:I'm running Ubuntu on an ARM Chromebook. Is PrBoom compatible with any PWADs PrBoom+ would be compatible with? If so that's probably my best bet. Depends what you intend to do with it. PrBoom is definitely not compatible with some maps that PrBoom+ will happily accept, but they tend to be really huge maps so maybe not the kind of things you'd try on such a platform anyway. Here's the few salient points on the top of my head: 1. MUSINFO 2. Extended nodes 3. Blockmap overflow fix 4. High-res textures, including in PNG or DDS format (only in GLBoom+) 5. Quake/Half-Life style skyboxes (only in GLBoom+) The typical example would be Voodoo Guns, which has so many requirements it only works with GLBoom+ or GZDoom. Outside of mapping/modding features, PrBoom+ also features an actually accurate Doom.exe v1.2 complevel, so if you have some 1.2 demos you want to watch and they involve demons or spectres attacking at some point, you won't have desyncs with PrBoom+ but you will with plain old PrBoom.
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Jun 26, 2015 22:49
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M.Ciaster posted:(poo poo, did they ever put it back on Steam, even?)
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Jun 27, 2015 00:38
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closeted republican posted:Granted, this is during Quake 1's development, but Romero knew that gibbing and gore was funny if done right. Doom's atmosphere uses gore, both cartoony and realistic, as tools to make the player feel like a badass.
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Jun 27, 2015 02:08
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apophenium posted:Does anyone have any experience getting Doom to run on a Chromebook running a Linux distro via crouton? I haven't been able to find much literature on the subject myself. Hopefully I'd be able to use a relatively modern source port as opposed to DOSBox.
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Jun 27, 2015 02:16
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You know, I seriously have to wonder why more indie devs don't gently caress around with any of the open-source idTech engines, given how hot "old-school style FPSes" were for a while. You'd think making a new IWAD for the Doom engine (or poo poo, messing with one of the Quake engines) wouldn't be that tall of an order. e: where I'm going with this is, a full game built around DoomRPG/DoomRLA's mechanics would kick so much rear end
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Jun 27, 2015 03:13
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Google adventures of square BRO
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LORD OF BUTT posted:You know, I seriously have to wonder why more indie devs don't gently caress around with any of the open-source idTech engines, given how hot "old-school style FPSes" were for a while. You'd think making a new IWAD for the Doom engine (or poo poo, messing with one of the Quake engines) wouldn't be that tall of an order. Well it is kinda difficult for someone just starting out to do more than make an FPS, and a lot of them really don't want to make straight up FPSes. Also even if they did want to just make an FPS, a lot of them aren't experienced enough to compile their own source port with new features, and if they use existing ports to start with there can be serious licensing issues for a commerical product.
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Jun 27, 2015 03:18
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I think there currently is a project for a GZDoom fork with no licensed code.
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Jun 27, 2015 03:27
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Halfway through The Plutonia Experiment and I almost forgot how much it hates you and everything you stand for. How many times are they gonna spawn Revenants behind me whenever I do something? Or start me out on a new map with an enemy right behind me already attacking? I'm also running Scythe II with Samsara as Quake guy for whenever I don't feel particularly masochistic.
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Jun 27, 2015 03:33
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Grimthwacker posted:Halfway through The Plutonia Experiment and I almost forgot how much it hates you and everything you stand for. How many times are they gonna spawn Revenants behind me whenever I do something? Or start me out on a new map with an enemy right behind me already attacking? Every time. It's not very good.
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Jun 27, 2015 05:07
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Grimthwacker posted:Halfway through The Plutonia Experiment and I almost forgot how much it hates you and everything you stand for. How many times are they gonna spawn Revenants behind me whenever I do something? Or start me out on a new map with an enemy right behind me already attacking? Run Scythe 2 on UV around level 23+ and you'll be begging for Plutonias difficulty again.
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Jun 27, 2015 05:51
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maev posted:Run Scythe 2 on UV around level 23+ and you'll be begging for Plutonias difficulty again. I feel like even the first Scythe gets pretty wild around that point, as well.
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Jun 27, 2015 06:44
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Is there a mappack for doom 1 or 2 that simply has the wolfenstein 3D levels? I feel like playing them in Doom, but I'm having no luck googling it up.
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Jun 27, 2015 06:45
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Morter posted:Is there a mappack for doom 1 or 2 that simply has the wolfenstein 3D levels? I feel like playing them in Doom, but I'm having no luck googling it up. I believe there was one called Wolfendoom that did that. It's older, though.
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Jun 27, 2015 07:07
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Anything like that only has 10 or so levels. I'm hoping for one that has all 27 (or however many levels wolf3d has)
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Jun 27, 2015 07:11
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Morter posted:Anything like that only has 10 or so levels. I'm hoping for one that has all 27 (or however many levels wolf3d has) It did though. The one I played did at least. This is the one I was speaking of. Even has some original missions. http://www.doomworld.com/wolfendoom/index2.html
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Jun 27, 2015 07:24
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Oh neat, that seems like just what I was looking for! Aww crap, the download links don't seem to work. It links me to AtomicGamer which has no such links. I'm seeing updates and remakes in the zdoom forums though. Here's hoping.
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Jun 27, 2015 07:29
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:I feel like even the first Scythe gets pretty wild around that point, as well. Yeah once you hit Hell in Scythe 1 the gloves come off, it's nuts. I still haven't successfully pistol-started map30 yet, though it's not something I try very often anymore. Playing through new, slightly less ball-busting maps is more exciting than slamming my face into that particular brick wall over and over.
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Jun 27, 2015 07:31
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Morter posted:Oh neat, that seems like just what I was looking for! I remember having to search for those files too and finding them. They're still out there. I had them but lost them in a HD crash. Maybe link your findings 
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Jun 27, 2015 07:35
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Wamdoodle posted:I remember having to search for those files too and finding them. They're still out there. I had them but lost them in a HD crash. Maybe link your findings I'm using this and it's EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED!  In particular, I wanted to play the wolfenstein levels while using wild weasel's nazi mod, and it's perfect. Thank you!
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Jun 27, 2015 07:44
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Morter posted:Aww crap, the download links don't seem to work. It links me to AtomicGamer which has no such links. I should edit that page to have proper links I guess.
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Jun 27, 2015 07:52
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Linguica posted:http://www.atomicgamer.com/directory.php?id=1665 Oh snap. Well for what it's worth, when I search "wolfendoom" on the top right I get "no search results". Still, thanks 
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Jun 27, 2015 07:53
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Morter posted:I'm using this and it's EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED! Oh snap! I never even thought of this! I'm asking for a lot but would you report back on how compatible it is? I'm out of town right now or I'd try it myself.
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Jun 27, 2015 08:00
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Wamdoodle posted:Oh snap! I never even thought of this! I'm asking for a lot but would you report back on how compatible it is? I'm out of town right now or I'd try it myself. Oddly enough? Not as compatible as i'd like! For some reason, that version I posted has the keys--which are necessary for completing levels--into weapon drops. This older version seems to have the key items working properly, but obviously only has a couple of things in it as opposed to ALL the maps that the first link I gave had. 
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Morter posted:Oddly enough? Not as compatible as i'd like! For some reason, that version I posted has the keys--which are necessary for completing levels--into weapon drops. drat! I was worried about that. I guess that TC is too out of date to be compatible. If I had any know-how I'd take a crack at it but alas, I can only enjoy the fruits of the Doom community's labor. I cannot craft it. Overwrought and extreme melodramatics aside, thanks for a least trying 
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Jun 27, 2015 08:44
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Alain Post posted:I think there currently is a project for a GZDoom fork with no licensed code. It'd probably be better to extend Vavoom or the like to avoid any accusations of impropriety. Though really if I was going to do it, seeing as I'd end up breaking compatability anyway because I'm an idiot like that, I'd rip out DECORATE and the like and replace them with an actual scripting system... at which point you rip out the Doom behavior from the core engine... and eventually end up with a crappy version of Unreal Engine 1. Probably not the best idea then.
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Just as a heads up, the first part of a HUGE Serious Sam HD: The Second Encounter mod called Serious Sam HD: Extended is out on Steam Workshop. It aims to revamp the entire TFE and TSE campaign with new enemies (including some from SS3, like the Space Monkeys), new maps, and new bosses. The classic maps have goten a visual update and have more enemies (in both types and enemy count) now. The Legend of the Beast maps are in it and have been updated so they don't suck anymore and, and most importantly, are now a part of the regular TFE campaign instead of being a seperate campaign. The mod covers everything up to Karnak ATM. You'll need the LotB DLC in order to play. http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=468808409 I haven't played it yet, but it looks great for anyone looking for some co-op fun.
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Geight posted:Yeah once you hit Hell in Scythe 1 the gloves come off, it's nuts. I still haven't successfully pistol-started map30 yet, though it's not something I try very often anymore. Playing through new, slightly less ball-busting maps is more exciting than slamming my face into that particular brick wall over and over. Maps 23+ on wads like speed of Doom / Scythe 2 are where my pistol start uv no save runs tend to end. That poo poo takes a lonnng time to get down.
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The nice thing about the super-hard levels in Scythe is that they tend to be very no-scumming friendly because they're short. Then you hit MAP30.
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What I dislike about most Doom 2 megawads is how ridiculously huge later maps get. Even Going Down somehow does this, with the last five or so maps being a slog (whereas the rest of the WAD was all really short levels). For some reason, this rarely occurs in Doom 1 megawads.
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