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bawfuls posted:stay indoors and also don't run any A/C because the power grid is stressed enough already nah we good http://www.caiso.com/TodaysOutlook/Pages/default.aspx
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yeah the silver lining of the state being covered by smoke is that it's blocking the sun and the temperature is ~10 degrees cooler than what it otherwise would be, saving electricity! Folks, maybe Nuclear Winter is the solution here.
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If anyone is still looking for air purifier, Costco has the Winix C545 back in stock for $120. Comes with 2 years worth of filters which retail for ~$70 by themselves. https://www.costco.com/winix-true-hepa-4-stage-air-purifier-with-wi-fi-and-additional-filter.product.100662892.html edit: out of stock again, sheesh
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https://www.sfchronicle.com/business/article/PG-E-error-at-power-plant-may-help-explain-15567028.phpquote:A mistake by Pacific Gas and Electric Co. may have played a role in people losing power on one of the two days that California experienced rolling blackouts during an extreme heat wave last month.
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Crimeny. Also thanks HelloSailorSign for linking the CAISO site, that's good poo poo that I've bookmarked and will be checking daily until the temperatures and fires dial back. I didn't realize we relied on Natural gas for close to 50% of our grid generation: loving hell we are slacking on renewable something fierce. I guess it's better than coal but that's not really saying much of anything.
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Sydin posted:Crimeny. It's a bit better than that usually, but the vast majority of renewable power is solar, and a giant cloud of smoke blotting out the sky isn't helpful. You can see daily graphs here and set the date back to see historical data. Even without smoke, though, you'd need massive amounts of energy storage to be able to handle load after the sun starts setting, especially since demand tends to peak around that time.
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fermun posted:https://www.sfchronicle.com/business/article/PG-E-error-at-power-plant-may-help-explain-15567028.php It's always PG&E, isn't it? Even if they're not the root cause, PG&E is somehow still always a contributing factor. 
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fermun posted:https://www.sfchronicle.com/business/article/PG-E-error-at-power-plant-may-help-explain-15567028.php Incredible. Not as bad as the whole "nuclear launch detected" thing in Hawaii a little bit back, but still.
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Admiral Ray posted:Incredible. Not as bad as the whole "nuclear launch detected" thing in Hawaii a little bit back, but still. Please remember that good UI people are worth the money
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b0lt posted:It's a bit better than that usually, but the vast majority of renewable power is solar, and a giant cloud of smoke blotting out the sky isn't helpful. You can see daily graphs here and set the date back to see historical data.
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Sydin posted:lmao the Democrats are so far gone as a party that Trump just swooped in and saved literally millions of people from homelessness after the Democrats Oh yeah that definitely happened https://www.npr.org/2020/09/14/911939055/despite-a-new-federal-ban-many-renters-are-still-getting-evicted quote:Houston Public Media sent a reporter to four different courthouses last week to observe about 100 eviction cases and found that only one renter was able to use the CDC order to block eviction. So in 99% of those cases the order was having no effect at all. Man I wish Democrats would just lie about poo poo as hard as Trump, a real political genius.
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Jaxyon posted:Oh yeah that definitely happened Has there been a follow-up on the California order and how that is or isn't helping people? If I remember correctly it's similar to the CDC order except you also have to come up with 25% of each month's rent.
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Sydin posted:Crimeny. We're still doing pretty good, if you look at our CO2 historical emissions we've cut it by half in the last 5 years http://www.caiso.com/TodaysOutlook/Pages/emissions.html
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Wicked Them Beats posted:Has there been a follow-up on the California order and how that is or isn't helping people? If I remember correctly it's similar to the CDC order except you also have to come up with 25% of each month's rent. Not that I've seen yet.
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Jaxyon posted:Oh yeah that definitely happened lmao did you seriously go back all those pages just do dig this up and try to dunk on me?  Also yeah good for the the honest, clean, above the board, never taking their constituency for a ride Democrats! 
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Oh my god seeing blue sky for the first time in a week is incredible.
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Sydin posted:lmao did you seriously go back all those pages just do dig this up and try to dunk on me? Yeah because I knew you'd try and spin it onto the Democrats like I think they're good or something. I think they suck. I'm not about to fall for their lies. When actually what I was doing is pointing out that you hate Democrats so hard you literally fall for Trump propaganda.
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b0lt posted:It's a bit better than that usually, but the vast majority of renewable power is solar, and a giant cloud of smoke blotting out the sky isn't helpful. Yeah that's fair, and from what I understand part of the reason we had the grid issues during the heat wave a couple weeks ago was because California recently took some natural gas plant(s) off the grid, so we're hopefully trending in the right direction. Jaxyon posted:Yeah because I knew you'd try and spin it onto the Democrats like I think they're good or something. I think they suck. I'm not about to fall for their lies. Please bend over backwards more to defend the one party who will do nothing to help you vs another party that will do nothing to help you, because at least the first one is honest about it!  e. also just that you apparently did this because you wanted to pick a fight on these dead comedy forums owned by an abuser. Get a life nerd.
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Sydin posted:Please bend over backwards more to defend the one party who will do nothing to help you vs another party that will do nothing to help you, because at least the first one is honest about it! LOL not defending Dems at all. Just pointing out you literally bought a known lying fascist at face value hook line and sinker. I was hoping this would cause you reflect on how you ingest news and propaganda. But you can be mad about me for pointing out that you made a mistake, and say that I love Democrats and want to marry them or some poo poo because you can't conceptualize that someone might disagree with you without holding opposite views. That's also a route you can take.
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Blue skies. Feel much better
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Blue skies. Feel much better  
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lol https://twitter.com/elex_michaelson/status/1305583883476377600?s=21
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Blue skies. Feel much better We have horrible, bright blue skies all goddamn year, I'll take a few weeks of overcast red apocalypse over endless sun. 
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Man, he loving owned Trump holy poo poo the Cheeto is done for.
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Jan posted:We have horrible, bright blue skies all goddamn year, I'll take a few weeks of overcast red apocalypse over endless sun. I found Trump's SA account
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I laughed when newsom explained to him that CA only owns 3% of the forest, but this is amazing.Kenning posted:Man, he loving owned Trump holy poo poo the Cheeto is done for.
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Blue skies. Feel much better Lucky you. LA is still the same haze for the past week.
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I recently realized that I cannot run the fan in my rented house to filter the air without the furnace also being on. drat two wire thermostat 
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CopperHound posted:I recently realized that I cannot run the fan in my rented house to filter the air without the furnace also being on. Any way to turn the gas off so it just runs?
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e.pilot posted:Any way to turn the gas off so it just runs? E: The vent pipe crosses over the front of the access panel because it is set up in a blow down configuration.  E2: I'm dumb and forgot this is the politics thread. I'll stop furnace chat. CopperHound fucked around with this message at 04:34 on Sep 16, 2020 |
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Funny how people will literally blame everyfire on an individual etc. Like oh a commuter threw a flare and started the fire! Because a flare was found on the ground. Seems like an inherent need to blame a person on acts non scientists can't explain for themselves.* *More like people just don't do research and get their info from their Facebook feed if friends posting bs videos of ANTIFA super soldiers starting fires etc because a dude has a jerry can for blackburns.
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It's a lot easier to blame fires on individuals doing dumb poo poo then it is to blame decades of mismanagement and poor judgement regarding forest management, city planning, and climate change. The former has a really simple solution (stop doing dumb poo poo) while the latter is an laundry list of extremely technical, expensive, and time consuming steps that may very well include a point where we decide we either need to move populations out of areas that are designed to naturally burn, or just accept the risk that they could very well burn down every year.
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I mean, it can be both. Decades of mismanagement, climate change, etc. create the conditions for a single spark to ignite a gigantic wildfire, and then some idiot goes out and provides that spark.
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Funny how people will literally blame everyfire on an individual etc. Like oh a commuter threw a flare and started the fire! Because a flare was found on the ground. Seems like an inherent need to blame a person on acts non scientists can't explain for themselves.* Dirk the Average posted:I mean, it can be both. Decades of mismanagement, climate change, etc. create the conditions for a single spark to ignite a gigantic wildfire, and then some idiot goes out and provides that spark.
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Smoke from the fires has actually gotten sucked all the way to New York and Washington D.C. by jet streams. https://twitter.com/NWSNewYorkNY/status/1305666259141312514?s=19 https://twitter.com/MikevWUSA/status/1305627690293133319?s=19 America Inc. fucked around with this message at 16:12 on Sep 16, 2020 |
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BeAuMaN posted:Just going to point out that the previous largest fire in California history since 1932, the Mendocino Complex Fire in 2018, was started by a person driving a metal stake into the ground to plug up a wasp nest. Yeah there's other causes, but people will do some really dumb poo poo. It also makes a more catchy headline for the news.
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adoration for none posted:Smoke from the fires has actually gotten sucked all the way to New York and Washington D.C. by jet streams. The new dust bowl sucks to be honest
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CopperHound posted:I mean incredibly dumb for people in the immediate vicinity, yes. But it isn't the sort of thing most reasonable people would consider would lead to opening a portal to unleash the flames of hell to cover one quarter of our state. Also wouldn't fires not be nearly as out-of-control without climate change? Like, yeah, fire bugs start fires, but they have always started fires. They don't usually start fires that burn down whole towns. I am not a fire scientist.
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adoration for none posted:Smoke from the fires has actually gotten sucked all the way to New York and Washington D.C. by jet streams. Fukn took long enough, why should we have all the fun.
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