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Trying to tear myself away from monster hunter long enough to give this a shot. I can just keep using my old save, right? I assume I'll see all the new stuff just by trying to fill out the post its or other obvious clues?
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Wrist Watch posted:Trying to tear myself away from monster hunter long enough to give this a shot. I can just keep using my old save, right? I assume I'll see all the new stuff just by trying to fill out the post its or other obvious clues? Kill Hush 3 times to start most of the new stuff.
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Apr 4, 2021 15:02
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Twice in a row the fool card never spawned in depths 2 (first time was necropolis, second time was dark depths). Idk if I'm missing something but one of those X rocks should have had one, right?
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Apr 4, 2021 15:03
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No Wave posted:Twice in a row the fool card never spawned in depths 2. Idk if I'm missing something but one of those X rocks should have had one, right? It's a skull with an X, not a tinted rock
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Apr 4, 2021 15:05
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Psychedelicatessen posted:It's a skull with an X, not a tinted rock
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No Wave posted:Twice in a row the fool card never spawned in depths 2 (first time was necropolis, second time was dark depths). Idk if I'm missing something but one of those X rocks should have had one, right? It only spawns in the Mausoleum or Gehenna.
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Apr 4, 2021 15:06
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Psychedelicatessen posted:Kill Hush 3 times to start most of the new stuff. Thank god, I was not looking forward to having to hit the reset button 500 hours in
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Apr 4, 2021 15:08
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Lord_Magmar posted:It only spawns in the Mausoleum or Gehenna. It's spawned in Depths 2 for me multiple times now
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Apr 4, 2021 15:09
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PIZZA.BAT posted:It's spawned in Depths 2 for me multiple times now Oh then I have no clue what’s up sorry, just what I thought I had heard/known.
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Apr 4, 2021 15:10
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Lord_Magmar posted:Oh then I have no clue what’s up sorry, just what I thought I had heard/known. Did you have the pill baggy item? Does that still change all cards to pills? I think someone mentioned that happened to them. It's been there every time for me in depths.
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Apr 4, 2021 15:35
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No Wave posted:Twice in a row the fool card never spawned in depths 2 (first time was necropolis, second time was dark depths). Idk if I'm missing something but one of those X rocks should have had one, right? You did finish the antibirth path and unlock the mysterious door first right?
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Apr 4, 2021 16:06
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Vegastar posted:You did finish the antibirth path and unlock the mysterious door first right?
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Apr 4, 2021 16:13
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Do you still get the Strange Door in Gehenna? I'd assumed it was Depths only and was avoiding the alt path.
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Apr 4, 2021 16:14
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No Wave posted:nooo I have to beat that thing? Ok that explains it. Yeah, no fool skull until you clear the boss at the end of the Corpse unfortunately. Irony Be My Shield posted:Do you still get the Strange Door in Gehenna? I'd assumed it was Depths only and was avoiding the alt path. Just the depths. Because of the way the paths are offset you have to reach mausoleum or Gehenna with mom already dead, which means Depths 2 -> Gehenna 2
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Apr 4, 2021 16:15
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Lord_Magmar posted:Ah okay Edmund had something to say about the new final ending in someone’s stream Isaac is definitely still dead of abuse, the person talking to him isn’t his father but the Holy Father, God, letting Isaac see what his life could have been like having freed himself from an unsure purgatory to enter Heaven, having realised his mother truly was wrong about him being a monster and a demon (Dogma is his mother’s beliefs, the Beast his repressed self image informed by those beliefs). Personally I prefer the entire thing being Isaac and his dad working through his trauma after a custody battle involving Child Protection Services. You know i forgot to add this that if isaac is indeed dead at least hes no longer stuck in purgatory and has gona to a better place
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Apr 4, 2021 16:30
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I just realized Repentance is a massive buff for Samson/Bloody Lust since you can chain 2nd floors over and over for arcade chances. Basement 1 -> 2 -> downpour 2 -> caves 2 -> mines 2 -> depths 2 -> mausoleum 2. Long as you have 5 cents it should be a lot easier to get ahold of an IV bag to pop that damage off safely.
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Apr 4, 2021 16:33
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Lord_Magmar posted:Ah okay Edmund had something to say about the new final ending in someone’s stream Isaac is definitely still dead of abuse, the person talking to him isn’t his father but the Holy Father, God, letting Isaac see what his life could have been like having freed himself from an unsure purgatory to enter Heaven, having realised his mother truly was wrong about him being a monster and a demon (Dogma is his mother’s beliefs, the Beast his repressed self image informed by those beliefs). Personally I prefer the entire thing being Isaac and his dad working through his trauma after a custody battle involving Child Protection Services. Would Ed really be that direct about the plot? He's always seemed more of an Open To Interpretation guy to me
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Apr 4, 2021 16:39
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managed to score a win on the alt-path after entering the mausoleum with half a heart. i can feel the rust coming off
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Apr 4, 2021 16:53
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I'm a little sad if that's the case tbh. I know "it's just a dream" is usually a copout, but this particular ending path feels far more interesting as a challenge to the games' themes than a continuation of them. The idea of literally turning back before it's too late, realizing the factors in play that were never Isaac's fault, and confronting how Isaac's imagination, anxieties, and strangeness combine into something uniquely dark and twisted are fascinating. Isaac having a sloghtly happier dying dream, not so much.
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Apr 4, 2021 17:18
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Is there a good concise guide anyway of the various routes through the game, a basic unlock path of "do this to unlock these rooms" etc? I aged a bit of Rebirth but kinda checked out until this final dlc hit so I'm woefully out of touch and all the YouTubers have hundreds of hours into each iteration from base to now, and the wiki just presents everything all at once.
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Apr 4, 2021 17:26
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God flaws and all I forgot how much I love Isaac It's probably my favorite "relax and chill" game of all times
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jivjov posted:Is there a good concise guide anyway of the various routes through the game, a basic unlock path of "do this to unlock these rooms" etc? I aged a bit of Rebirth but kinda checked out until this final dlc hit so I'm woefully out of touch and all the YouTubers have hundreds of hours into each iteration from base to now, and the wiki just presents everything all at once. I'm not aware of any summary, though one probably exists, but if you look at the wiki page of what you're trying to unlock, it will tell you. For example (spoilers, obviously): https://bindingofisaacrebirth.fandom.com/wiki/Home On the paper at the right, it tells you the unlock method. If you're looking at an end-game thing like the above, you might have to follow a few links to find the next thing you need to do. Specifically for repentance, there are a couple of new paths: "Antibirth" path: do all the alt levels (first requires a key, second requires 2 bombs, 3rd requires 2 hearts of any kind) getting the knife piece on the first and second, then after killing mom, use the knife on the cracked doorway and kill the heart. Then just progress through floors. Alt character unlocks: after doing the above once, kill mom, teleport out of the room afterwards (there's a guaranteed fool card in a marked skull on that level) then go through the new door. Once you're in home, the corridor outside mom's room has a hidden door you need to either use the red key to open, or the cracked key. The cracked key can be guaranteed by leaving a trinket in a boss or item room on your way down. Go back to the same room on the way up and the trinket will have turned into a cracked key. The final final boss is also in home. AB+ and earlier the progression is much more obvious and is generally about just filling in each characters post-it. I won't spoiler it because it's all old stuff. You can see what each mark does, and find out how to unlock each character here: https://bindingofisaacrebirth.fandom.com/wiki/Completion_Marks The only things you may not stumble across are mega-satan, a couple of timed events and one semi-random thing: Reach dark room / chest with something that can open the big door: https://bindingofisaacrebirth.fandom.com/wiki/Mega_Satan Kill mom in 20m: https://bindingofisaacrebirth.fandom.com/wiki/Boss_Rush Kill mom's heart / it lives in 30m: https://bindingofisaacrebirth.fandom.com/wiki/Hush Chance of portal after certain bosses, or guaranteed after hush: https://bindingofisaacrebirth.fandom.com/wiki/Delirium
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Lol was writing a huge rear end post but phone typing is slow. Dont forget that to unlock polaroid and negative you gotta kill isaac or satan enough times. Then to enter chest take the polaroid and clear the cathedral or to enter the dark room take the negative and clear sheol.
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Apr 4, 2021 18:00
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Yeah, just clear the game as far as you can like 10-20 times, try going fast if the first few floors give you good items. This will unlock a ton of stuff. Also, play greed mode!
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Going to Home, and there's no door out of the Mines XL boss room. Softlocked. Dear God let us use mods and the console again.
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Even with a 100% clear save file, it feels like there's so much to do and learn. Glad to be playing this again. I killed a new final boss just as they killed me, so that was a waste but was fun to get that close after only a second encounter.
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Killed the final-final boss this morning and now I've been taking various characters through for unlocks. So far the hardest character to clear it with has been Azazel just because of how his brimstone works. Alt Azazel was hilariously easy because Mauso II before grabbing Dad's Note gave me Ludovico, which may as well be an "I Win" button for the true ending path. It feels like a moderately good run can clear it once you know how to dodge the attacks properly. I especially like that the bosses don't appear to have an overwhelming amount of Boss Armor. So the fights last just long enough to be interesting.
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Apr 4, 2021 18:47
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Apparently range ups actually do something with Azazel now so that's at least something
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PIZZA.BAT posted:Apparently range ups actually do something with Azazel now so that's at least something They always did, though the revamp? of the range stat seems to make it easier to gain a significant amount of range.
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goferchan posted:Wow there are some really really cool "deep unlocks". Never expected a new arcade machine https://v.redd.it/zxuqxnqdzzq61
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Today, with the help of Dr. Fetus, Mr. Mega, Host Hat, and a lack of due care, I learned what happens if you bomb the mirror while on the other side of it. Turns out you start taking damage once every half-second as soon as you leave the room. I even got brought back to life by the mysterious paper, then promptly died again... 
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Kawalimus posted:Did you have the pill baggy item? Does that still change all cards to pills? I think someone mentioned that happened to them. It's been there every time for me in depths. Sack head can replace it with a sack too
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If there's one thing I've learned about Ed from the alt characters, it's that he loves two things: Red heart containers and melee-type attacks. Almost all of them I've played so far has had either one or both of these going on.
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Bethany with the Spin 2 Win top is hilarious. It's not a build that's very viable but it's fun.
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just completed pica run (the challenge i was hoping theyd add) and isaacs awakening (got mega blast in the second devil room lol)
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ArfJason posted:just completed pica run (the challenge i was hoping theyd add) and isaacs awakening (got mega blast in the second devil room lol) These challenges rule. I'm liking the Bethany without Book of Virtues one too, although I'm having trouble beating it. I'm starting to realize I need to rethink devil deals completely. Maybe it's just unfamiliarity with the new enemies, but health is a lot more important. It seems like health items are less of a % of the pools now, and the tinted rocks getting nerfed in hard mode makes health pretty tough.
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Fuuuuck. Sorry if this was covered already but it seems significantly harder. This feels like Flash Wrath of the Lamb, where you're fishing for damage early or you lose. Plus some of the new patterns are just dumb. I was fighting Hush and he did the full screen wrap around shots about 8 times in a row in different directions each time.
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The Isaac’s Awakening challenge was really fun, I kinda wish I could just do normal runs like that lol
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Is it just me or is blood oath not really worth it? I had it crunching six hearts off me each floor for only (I think) 3ish damage. Not sure how you'd really improve it without breaking it though. I think I'm gonna pass on it from now on
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