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pseudorandom name posted:not trusted, hated. that's still brand awarenes's!
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A Yolo Wizard posted:a context menu could be implemented 100% without a fancy touchscreen. They already have context menus on press and hold, just let users have the 3d touch menu for that if they want. sweet now i cant move my appsp around thanks idiot
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Sep 29, 2015 04:40
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Stux posted:sweet now i cant move my appsp around thanks idiot what happened to you
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Sep 29, 2015 05:11
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duTrieux. posted:humans prefer analog controls? what world is this‽ I prefer simple, obvious solutions to backporting features that don't involve me buying a new phone
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Sep 29, 2015 05:12
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yes, I realize their intentions on not backporting features. but shitposting about thurrot doesn't require you to make yourself look like a moron in the process
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Sep 29, 2015 05:14
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I onlyt wish the best of you and hope you don't become pleasurekevin 2.0 of the ms thread duTrieux =)
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Sep 29, 2015 05:16
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in it voted 5
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Sep 29, 2015 06:11
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PleasureKevin posted:in it voted 5
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Sep 29, 2015 06:12
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A Yolo Wizard posted:what happened to you how do you move apps on an iphone
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Sep 29, 2015 06:23
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A Yolo Wizard posted:yes, I realize their intentions on not backporting features. but shitposting about thurrot doesn't require you to make yourself look like a moron in the process the 3D touch thing can do at least two different levels of pressing in, couldn't do that with just one button. maybe they should add a ctrl button on the back? anyways you and thurrot are wrong 
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Sep 29, 2015 06:49
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Deacon of Delicious posted:the 3D touch thing can do at least two different levels of pressing in, couldn't do that with just one button. maybe they should add a ctrl button on the back? Noone is going to use more than one level in any meaningful way Sudo Echo posted:how do you move apps on an iphone ~it could actually be the same in either setup you just put (move) in the fuckin context menu~
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Sep 29, 2015 07:29
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A Yolo Wizard posted:Noone is going to use more than one level in any meaningful way it's going to be used in drawing programs and that's it. some apps are going to trial using varying amounts of pressure for different actions, realize that it's a horrible idea and scrap it.
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Sep 29, 2015 08:18
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A Yolo Wizard posted:I prefer simple, obvious solutions to backporting features that don't involve me buying a new phone feature u want backported: a new type of touch interaciton that is impossible w/o new hardware or loving the entire way touch interaction currently works. have u thought about a career working on android
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Sep 29, 2015 08:21
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A Yolo Wizard posted:Noone is going to use more than one level in any meaningful way cool so a phone full of apps u touch and hold on and the only otpion in the menu is move, making what is now a one touch operstiob into a much more annoying effort never mind that move in the context menu wouldn't make sense with how u actually make all the apps moveable at once cureently
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Sep 29, 2015 08:23
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Stux posted:loving the entire way touch interaction currently works. counterpoint: no it wouldn't
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Sep 29, 2015 08:33
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I'm sorry if moving your apps around happens so often that this would seriously affect your workflow stux
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Sep 29, 2015 08:34
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if there's onebthing Apple is known for, especially with the iphone, it's completely changing a core part of the way the ui interaction works to half rear end something that really needs new hardware to accomplish properlky m if this upsets u in sure you can buy a lovely android phone and root it right up ur rear end
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Sep 29, 2015 08:40
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i guess it makes sense ud have such a fuckbaf idiot idea when we're in the a thread dedicated to a company who would do that kind of thing and are absolutely trash becos of it
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Sep 29, 2015 08:41
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good posts stux
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Stux posted:if there's onebthing Apple is known for, especially with the iphone, it's completely changing a core part of the way the ui interaction works to half rear end something that really needs new hardware to accomplish properlky m Yes, you need new hardware to add a context menu properly in 2015 moron izzard fucked around with this message at 14:32 on Sep 29, 2015 |
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Sep 29, 2015 14:01
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pressing and holding is not the same as force pressing. i tried that a bunch on the model at the store and it's definitely based on force, not length of press. besides the 96 sensors that make that possible, the taptic feedback is also pretty much required. regular phone vibrators are too slow to give the illusion of a "click" when you press the screen. although the implementation of taptic is much better in the Macbook than in the Watch and iPhone 6S. it seems just everso delayed in the watch and phone and there's a better illusion of a click in the macbook.
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Sep 29, 2015 14:32
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duTrieux. posted:humans prefer analog controls? what world is this‽ do they? i don't look forward to a return to the touchscreens of fifteen years ago when you had to push down really hard for it to register your input half the time on top of that, companies have tried pressure-sensitive input on something every couple years for over a decade. the reason it fails isn't because the technology wasn't there yet, it's because it's a usability nightmare, no one takes advantage of the capability because of that, and the company quietly drops it from their feature checklists in embarrassment after a while
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Sep 29, 2015 14:33
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PleasureKevin posted:pressing and holding is not the same as force pressing. i tried that a bunch on the model at the store and it's definitely based on force, not length of press. Im happy to see you completely missed the point kevin. and then wrote a whole lot explaining how you missed it.
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Sep 29, 2015 14:34
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Thanks Ants posted:imagine if upon disconnecting the keyboard cover from the surface, outlook went into touch friendly mode and you could palm through your messages. Windows has detected that the keyboard has been removed. The system will automatically reboot into Touch Friendly Mode in 60 seconds.
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Sep 29, 2015 15:24
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Main Paineframe posted:do they? i don't look forward to a return to the touchscreens of fifteen years ago when you had to push down really hard for it to register your input half the time what's the name of that company that tries things others have tried but does it way better and it just works?
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Sep 29, 2015 15:37
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Sep 29, 2015 15:39
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PleasureKevin posted:what's the name of that company that tries things others have tried but does it way better and it just works? brazzers
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Sep 29, 2015 15:40
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PleasureKevin posted:what's the name of that company that tries things others have tried but does it way better and it just works? all of them, before they got caught up in web 2.0 bullshit and trendy marketing instead of making decent products
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Sep 29, 2015 15:45
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Cocoa Crispies posted:Windows has detected that the keyboard has been removed. The system will automatically reboot into Touch Friendly Mode in 60 seconds.
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Sep 29, 2015 16:14
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Main Paineframe posted:do they? i don't look forward to a return to the touchscreens of fifteen years ago when you had to push down really hard for it to register your input half the time
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Main Paineframe posted:do they? i don't look forward to a return to the touchscreens of fifteen years ago when you had to push down really hard for it to register your input half the time yeah same I can't believe 3D Touch is making apple use a resistive touch screen A Yolo Wizard posted:Yes, you need new hardware to add a context menu properly in 2015 you don't need it, u could do exactly what u said. but it would be a really bad idea to do that when press and hold has a well established function already, so adding a new way of proessing with new hardwarebis a good way to add it without destroying exisitng design paradigms. im sorry consistency in ui is such a difficult concept for u have u maybe tried using windows 10 instead
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Sep 29, 2015 21:08
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There are a variety of places in the existing pre ios9 ui where press and hold had a context menu. in fact, the home screen doing its doobly do wiggly icon move thing is unique to the home screen. that doesn't sound very consistent edit: for some reason they've abandoned the swipe left / right motion on the new news app and have replaced it with a press and hold context menu. that doesn't sound like its holding to existing design paradigms at all
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Sep 29, 2015 22:19
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don't use the news app use feedly instead
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Sep 29, 2015 22:42
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qirex posted:don't use the news app use feedly instead you misspelled reeder fyi
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Sep 29, 2015 23:09
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apple aids thread seems to be spreading
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Sep 29, 2015 23:16
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PleasureKevin posted:pressing and holding is not the same as force pressing. i tried that a bunch on the model at the store and it's definitely based on force, not length of press. A Yolo Wizard posted:Im happy to see you completely missed the point kevin. and then wrote a whole lot explaining how you missed it. 
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Sep 29, 2015 23:16
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i hate reeder's lovely as hell built in browser
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Sep 29, 2015 23:16
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iphones are stupid
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Sep 29, 2015 23:48
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A Yolo Wizard posted:There are a variety of places in the existing pre ios9 ui where press and hold had a context menu. in fact, the home screen doing its doobly do wiggly icon move thing is unique to the home screen. hmmm STFU
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A Yolo Wizard posted:There are a variety of places in the existing pre ios9 ui where press and hold had a context menu. in fact, the home screen doing its doobly do wiggly icon move thing is unique to the home screen. how r u missing this very simple point so easily. hold on the home screen has always done the same thing. thats why its consistent. hold also has other uses elsewhere which is true, but u were talking about changing it specifically on the homescreen from making icons movable to a context menu. thats inconsistent. also nebver mind that it can do multiple levels of touch, so now u have ur hold and touch, as well as at least 2 more actions from a similar movememnt, without sacrificing anything. ur old phone doesnt get the nwe functions, but its not lost any. u have not been inconvienienced in anyway, ur phone still functions as it did. im sorry ur getting v confused about simple conceptps. im sorr u feel entitiled to have evyerhting for free. mayhaps we can get apple to put the new cameras in ur old phone for u so you dont have ot cry about a newer phone than urs being newer.
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