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I have a video somewhere of a dude in a GT500 that got stuck on my street after we have *maybe* an inch of snow. He was still on his summer slicks despite being over the deadline for winter tires. Car looked fairly brand new, so I assume he had no idea how to to handle a powerful rwd car, but it was rather hilarious to see him transform the surface around him into a near perfectly shiny ice surface by gunning the engine and moving in every direction except forwards. He eventually ditched, kinda, in the sense that he drifted into 4 inches of sidewalk snow, so he called it quits and left the car there overnight and it eventually got towed the next day. 
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I could not believe how terrible performance summer tires are in the snow on a rwd vehicle on a flat surface. Winter tires on all corners made it feel like I was driving awd.
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Feb 19, 2016 21:42
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8ender posted:I liked my old 5 series in snow so much that I want to go back to RWD. FWD just doesn't feel the same. On the other hand, a FWD hatchback with a revvy engine and a good handbrake is a ton of fun in an empty snow-covered parking lot. Especially if it's not your own car. A Peugeot 206 S16, GTI or RC is now high on my list for a second car, just for fun.
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Feb 19, 2016 22:05
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surebet posted:I have a video somewhere of a dude in a GT500 that got stuck on my street after we have *maybe* an inch of snow. He was still on his summer slicks despite being over the deadline for winter tires. Car looked fairly brand new, so I assume he had no idea how to to handle a powerful rwd car, but it was rather hilarious to see him transform the surface around him into a near perfectly shiny ice surface by gunning the engine and moving in every direction except forwards. This is one of the favorites I've witnessed, I know the liberty isn't considered much of a "jeep" but it cracks me up that some dude probably thought they were buying a rugged winter ready vehicle, and then can't get out of their parking space. 
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Feb 19, 2016 22:09
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I keep seeing 106 ralye (ralley?) for sale every few months. They look incredible fun but I'm sure you could build better for cheaper.
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Feb 19, 2016 22:11
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xzzy posted:This is one of the favorites I've witnessed, I know the liberty isn't considered much of a "jeep" but it cracks me up that some dude probably thought they were buying a rugged winter ready vehicle, and then can't get out of their parking space. This classic is fun. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuTXUcoGdhw
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Feb 19, 2016 22:14
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Cage posted:I could not believe how terrible performance summer tires are in the snow on a rwd vehicle on a flat surface. Winter tires on all corners made it feel like I was driving awd. I agree, even allseasons are garbage on snow. For living in CA I'd rather have a tire that grips better in the dry and wet without any consideration for snow. If I lived in the snow belt or at altitude I'd just have a separate set of wheels/tires like everybody else.
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Feb 19, 2016 22:16
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Uthor posted:This classic is fun. hahahahahaha  hahahaha
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Feb 19, 2016 22:24
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Cakefool posted:I keep seeing 106 ralye (ralley?) for sale every few months. They look incredible fun but I'm sure you could build better for cheaper. Rallye. It's a stripped-down 825kg 106, IIRC it has the suspension bits from the GTI. Manual windows, no central locking, white steelies, you get the idea. The original 1.3 is the most fun, 100hp at 7200rpm. The latter 1.6 is 103hp at 6200rpm, which makes it less frantic, but it does have more torque. Same story with the 205 GTI 1.6 vs 1.9. They've become quite sought after, which explains the prices. And they rust.
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Feb 19, 2016 22:40
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Cage posted:I could not believe how terrible performance summer tires are in the snow on a rwd vehicle on a flat surface. Winter tires on all corners made it feel like I was driving awd. I couldn't believe how terrible they are with an awd car. Like, I knew it was going to be bad, but we got a huge snowstorm a few years ago and for the plows to go through I moved my car off the street. Barely made it one block up a slight incline. And then recently a neighbor with a newish sti, which come with performance summer tires, asks me "hey, my car will be fine in the winter because it's awd, right? that's what a guy at work told me." He has some blizzaks.
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Feb 19, 2016 22:46
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Cage posted:I could not believe how terrible performance summer tires are in the snow on a rwd vehicle on a flat surface. Winter tires on all corners made it feel like I was driving awd. I wish all manufacturers would do what Ford is doing with the Focus RS. Offer a winter tire package that comes mounted on a second set of wheels for X dollars. I know the one on the Focus is a bit expensive ($2,000) and can probably be done cheaper on Tire Rack, but if people had the ability to roll that into a car loan that might increase the use of winter tires overall. A nice pipe dream if nothing else.
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Feb 19, 2016 22:48
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jamal posted:And then recently a neighbor with a newish sti, which come with performance summer tires, asks me "hey, my car will be fine in the winter because it's awd, right? that's what a guy at work told me." Local Subaru dealership (who is infamous for denying test drives of WRX/STI/BRZ products) let a customer take a used ~2009 STI with no snow tires for a no-questions-asked test drive on one crisp December morning that ended in the boulder at the end of the dealership driveway. They buttoned it back up, slammed a new oilpan, panels and front suspension on it, and resold it without disclosing the accident or lowering the price.
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Feb 19, 2016 22:57
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Kinfolk Jones posted:I wish all manufacturers would do what Ford is doing with the Focus RS. Offer a winter tire package that comes mounted on a second set of wheels for X dollars. I know the one on the Focus is a bit expensive ($2,000) and can probably be done cheaper on Tire Rack, but if people had the ability to roll that into a car loan that might increase the use of winter tires overall. A nice pipe dream if nothing else. Dealers would option that in as an accessory.
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Feb 19, 2016 23:06
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8ender posted:I have a rental Charger right now while my car is getting bodywork done. It has all seasons and is miserable in the snow. Although I'm actually kind of impressed with the Charger. Its... not bad for Chrysler. Don't a lot of automatic-equipped cars have a "snow" mode where they will let you start out in second and hold it until you manually shift? I know I've seen that feature, but I don't know how common it is.
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Cage posted:I could not believe how terrible performance summer tires are in the snow on a rwd vehicle on a flat surface. Winter tires on all corners made it feel like I was driving awd. I had to move a company car from storage during winter and it still had it's summer tires on. After like 3 street corners I stopped, had the car towed and explained in very clear terms to my boss that we're not going to try that anymore. Kinfolk Jones posted:I wish all manufacturers would do what Ford is doing with the Focus RS. Offer a winter tire package that comes mounted on a second set of wheels for X dollars. I know the one on the Focus is a bit expensive ($2,000) and can probably be done cheaper on Tire Rack, but if people had the ability to roll that into a car loan that might increase the use of winter tires overall. A nice pipe dream if nothing else. if it's in your means to go for a new car, a "these are great but literally any winter tire is better than all-seasons in actual snow" 500$ set on steelies shouldn't be a problem 8ender posted:I have a rental Charger right now while my car is getting bodywork done. It has all seasons and is miserable in the snow. Although I'm actually kind of impressed with the Charger. Its... not bad for Chrysler. I'm 6'5" so I quite like the Charger/300, especially for long distance driving. The base versions are quite manageable in snow and they're also available in awd. I would miss driving stick though, but as rentals I'm delighted to get them.
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Darchangel posted:Don't a lot of automatic-equipped cars have a "snow" mode where they will let you start out in second and hold it until you manually shift? I know I've seen that feature, but I don't know how common it is. My Challenger does. Of course, it having all of 4" of ground clearance makes snow driving sort of a moot point.
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Ozz81 posted:Isn't that pretty much what the new Hummer was anyway? My brother does auto work and said he had a guy argue that his new Hummer "wasn't a Tahoe" until they put it on the lift and did a side by side with my brother's actual Tahoe, pretty sure the chassis/frame is nearly identical but with a Hummer body slapped on. Could be wrong but I wouldn't put it past GM (or any car manufacturer) to do that and drive the price up a few grand, they already do that rebadging/price gouge crap with Cadillac and Chevy. See also Ford -- all the Ford/Mercury cars have had the same sheetmetal since the beginning of time. Any Ford and the equivalent Mercury model have always had the same body panels (except occasionally the front fenders were different to accommodate the brand-specific grille). Same with GM -- the only difference between '46 Chevy, Olds, and Buick is what options came standard. The Cadillac and Lincoln offerings had slightly different tailfins from the plebeian models. 1500quidporsche posted:To be fair to the guy calling look at what the Chinese did to MG and Rover. ReelBigLizard posted:Of all the crimes I've seen visited on vintage VWs a reversible electric conversion seems totally reasonable.
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wallaka posted:My Challenger does. Of course, it having all of 4" of ground clearance makes snow driving sort of a moot point. I have AWD and Continental Winter SI on my R and that's basically where I draw the line. Yes I can push my way through the 4+ inches of snow for the mile to the nearest plowed road, but gently caress that. It's gonna take me 2 hours to drive 20 miles to work, to work 3 hours then drive home for another 2 hours. I just stay home anymore if we get more than a dusting. When I first moved out to CO I was on my way up the hill to go snowboarding and got passed by an 03 R that was still on the Goodyear F1 summers that the car comes with. Made sure to not be anywhere near that guy. A few years down the road, I put my summers on in early April. This turned out to be a bad idea as we got a big rear end snow storm roll in early and drop about 4 inches while I was still at work. That was the gnarliest, white knuckled drive I've ever done. I was also on the Goodyear F1s that came with my GLI. There is about fairly steep incline to leave the parking lot of my old office and by god I didn't think I was ever going to get out of the parking lot.
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veedubfreak posted:I have AWD and Continental Winter SI on my R and that's basically where I draw the line. Yes I can push my way through the 4+ inches of snow for the mile to the nearest plowed road, but gently caress that. It's gonna take me 2 hours to drive 20 miles to work, to work 3 hours then drive home for another 2 hours. I just stay home anymore if we get more than a dusting. One of the only redeeming features of Alabama is keeping summer tires on year-round. The one time it might snow per year, I call work and tell 'em I'm taking a personal day.
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wallaka posted:My Challenger does. Of course, it having all of 4" of ground clearance makes snow driving sort of a moot point. Yeah it has it but it's that miserable torque converter manual shift that takes ages and makes my soul die
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:Do any car rental companies in the US put winter tires on their cars? I'm pretty sure the rental I got when I was visiting Toronto had winter tires on it, but that may be the law up there. While in Vancouver, I use car2go alot. It blew me away that they put the Alpine rated tires on the Smart cars, then again they probably have enough customers taking them up to the different ski-resorts in the area. I tried driving one up to Squamish halfway to Whistler and I was like  Most of the rentals I had in Canada have M+S rated tires at a minimum.
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Here's the latest seattle.jpg piece of poo poo I saw on the road.  Also, this dumb ugly thing in front of a hair salon in Green Lake. 
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Feb 20, 2016 10:23
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Seat Safety Switch posted:Local Subaru dealership (who is infamous for denying test drives of WRX/STI/BRZ products) let a customer take a used ~2009 STI with no snow tires for a no-questions-asked test drive on one crisp December morning that ended in the boulder at the end of the dealership driveway. Wow. Is that the one on Barlow Trail? A friend used to have an 2011 STI and got caught with his summer tires on - inevitably he slid into a curb but got away with road rash on one wheel only since it was super low speed.
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BraveUlysses posted:
So I guess you don't know anything about Jeeps? Looks like a pretty standard 2 or 3" lift. Those are pretty standard aftermarket fenders to allow the bigger tires he's running to be able to flex without rubbing on the lovely stock fenders. I can count on one hand how many Jeepers I know that run mud flaps and most of them are in a state that specifically require them, otherwise no one runs flaps. He's probably running 1.5" spacers to move the wheels out a bit to prevent rubbing since his wheels don't have the correct back spacing. That's a pretty standard lifted/aftermarket wheel/tire Jeep. I can't drive 20 minutes around here without seeing one like that, in fact there's one sitting in my garage and no, it doesn't drive poorly.
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Feb 20, 2016 19:11
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I see tons of lifted vehicles but none where the wheels stick out anywhere like that dude's jeep does. It simply looked rediculous and i'm betting it drives poorly too. He could barely stay off the lines, constantly bounced from the left lines to the right lines.
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It's a Jeep thing you wouldn't understand.
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8ender posted:Yeah it has it but it's that miserable torque converter manual shift that takes ages and makes my soul die It shifts much, much faster than the Mercedes application of that transmission. When I had my E55, guys were installing the Dodge-programmed transmission control units. It'll bark the tires going into second and third gear, that's fast and hard enough for me. It shifts immediately when I hit the paddles, too, though I usually don't bother. I'm not sure how the non-SRT ones behave, though. Probably pretty bad.
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Poet, rapper orrrrrrrrrrrrrr an analingus aficianado?
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I had no idea Landau tops were still a thing 
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kuffs posted:I had no idea Landau tops were still a thing It's how dealers hide hail damage.
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G-Mach posted:It's how dealers hide hail damage. And sell cars to people who shouldn't have drivers licences.
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wallaka posted:It shifts much, much faster than the Mercedes application of that transmission. When I had my E55, guys were installing the Dodge-programmed transmission control units. It'll bark the tires going into second and third gear, that's fast and hard enough for me. It shifts immediately when I hit the paddles, too, though I usually don't bother. Can confirm, the trans is programmed to be a lazy piece of poo poo in the rental spec cars. The SRT build/programming makes the transmission aggressive, controls torque converter lockup, and consequently does interesting stuff like engine braking. It shifts VERY fast and coupled with the 392 plant makes even the 4300lb Charger go like poo poo off a shovel.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdtDumm2LK0
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You can view some aftermath photos at the bottom of this article. http://www.oregonlive.com/commuting/index.ssf/2016/02/mercedes-benz_a_week_off_the_d.html#incart_gallery
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And the guy decided he'd post that with sound?
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IPCRESS posted:And the guy decided he'd post that with sound? I assume he's out to his friends and family.
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This guy got a car? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3WeXGmqYsE
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