Phone posted:

You forgot to append "noted war criminal" to the front of Noted War Criminal Ronald Reagan.

Radish posted:

To be fair it was the Greatest Generation and the older Boomers that voted for Reagan and he was pretty much the point-man in terms of undoing anything good about this country.

Radish posted:

To be fair it was the Greatest Generation and the older Boomers that voted for Reagan and he was pretty much the point-man in terms of undoing anything good about this country.

Jerry Manderbilt posted:

Can't leave out the Silent Generation.

Strawman posted:

Says who?

Miltank posted:

who were the silent generation? is that after the boomers and before genX?

Pope Guilty posted:

They fought WWI showed up for the very end of WWI and took credit for winning it, like the Greatest Generation did for WWII.

SedanChair posted:

Skex posted:

Yeah gotta love how the "greatest generation" (was more the one before them but why quibble) left all these great rope ladders to success and prosperity which the boomers happily clambered up then when they reached the top turned around and cut the ropes behind them.

They then proceed to forget that the very idea of moving out of our parent's house and buying their own is really a social dynamic that only really existed for their own generation and slam the following ones for not accomplishing the same with out those same advantages they were given. For most of human existence multi-generational homes were pretty much standard fair. We only really managed to move out of that model for an extremely short period of time thanks primarily to those rope ladders to success that they've spent their twilight years dismantling.

KomradeX posted:

I once brought this up to a Boomer friend of mine (board gaming brings you into sine different social circles I guess) and I brought up the fact his generation cut the ladder on mine, this was during a discussion about how lazy and self entitled kids are today. His response was well if we didn't do it yours would have.

Someother highlights fin that conversation included Iran Contra is just the cost of Empire, Reagan was good cause he made us feel better and I just can't inner stand what it was like in the late 70s. And Guns don't kill people, people do.

KomradeX posted:

Someother highlights fin that conversation included Iran Contra is just the cost of Empire, Reagan was good cause he made us feel better and I just can't inner stand what it was like in the late 70s. And Guns don't kill people, people do.

quote:

The United States needs to rev up the war in Iraq, former Vice President Dick Cheney told Republicans Tuesday on Capitol Hill -- and most lawmakers seemed to agree with the man perhaps best known as a lead architect of America's ill-fated 2003 intervention there.

...

Obama has been saying for the past year that "we're going to bring all the troops home, and that we're going to basically be out of Iraq and Afghanistan," said Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.). "Now the president's basically saying, one way or the other, we're going back into Iraq. Dick Cheney was here to support that."

Asked if he saw any irony in Cheney coming to talk to Republicans about next steps in Iraq, King said firmly, "No, because most of us think we did the right thing in Iraq."

...

"Really [there was] no controversy over the comments that were made," said Rep. Dave Reichert (R-Wash.). "No one challenged the vice president. I think that his analysis and the information he shared was accepted as pretty accurate."

...

Reichert added that Cheney -- who in 2003 erroneously linked Iraq to the 9/11 attacks despite the lack of evidence -- did so again in his pitch Tuesday.

"He mentioned the 9/11 attack was accomplished by people who came to this country with airplane tickets and box cutters and killed over 3,000 people," Reichert said. "What he said is that as ISIS and other terrorist groups -- the Muslim Brotherhood, the Taliban, al Qaeda, etc. -- gain strength and no action is taken or perceived weaknesses are seen, there's a greater chance America could be attacked again, and this time it won't be box cutters and airplane tickets."

Skex posted:

For most of human existence multi-generational homes were pretty much standard fair. We only really managed to move out of that model for an extremely short period of time thanks primarily to those rope ladders to success that they've spent their twilight years dismantling.

mr. mephistopheles posted:

Today Rush thinks his psycho callers are trying to trap him into defending that football player who punched out his girlfriend. Even though he basically is anyway.

quote:

"He mentioned the 9/11 attack was accomplished by people who came to this country with airplane tickets and box cutters and killed over 3,000 people,"

ProperGanderPusher posted:

In their minds, they're just exhibiting common sense. A baby is a baby from the moment of conception. All this liberal fiddle faddle about the rights of the woman and the exact nature of the sentience of fetuses and embryos are just a big smokescreen to confuse honest folks like us. Ectopic pregnancies? What are those? Eh, no matter. Didn't take no biology courses in my homeschool collective or lovely public school anyhow.

quote:

More than 1.7 million human embryos created for IVF pregnancies have been discarded without being used, new figures have disclosed.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9772233/1.7-million-human-embryos-created-for-IVF-thrown-away.html

Pope Guilty posted:

They fought WWI.

Jerry Manderbilt posted:

I always thought they were between the Greatest Generation and the Boomers; people who were born during the Depression or who weren't old enough to remember how it started, and came of age during the late 40s and the 50s.

Plinkey posted:

Dick Cheney repeating the same poo poo from 13 years ago counts right?

Iraq round 2 3.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/09/dick-cheney-iraq_n_5791770.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

BiggerBoat posted:

God drat will Cheney just die already?

Hodgepodge posted:

Hmm, yes Cheney, tell us more about the terrorist attack your administration allowed by ignoring information provided by its predecessor.

beatlegs posted:

Yet....


*crickets*

quote:

RUSH: Geno in the Bronx. Glad you waited, sir. Great to have you on the program. Hi.

CALLER: I finally made it to radio talk show heaven. I'm on the Rush Limbaugh Show. As I was telling Mr. Snerdley when he took my call, I used to be a probation officer 20 years ago, and guess what case came up 20 years ago of a famous NFL Hall of Fame football player who committed the ultimate domestic violence case of all time: None other than of course OJ Simpson!

And, of course, Nicole Brown Simpson and the Goldman kid got murdered, slaughtered, Rambo'd, knifed by OJ. OJ, of course, beat the rap. But he didn't beat the rap in the civil case a year later. It was when he was working for NBC Sports, the left-wing media sports outlet that defended this monster up until the day that they found him liable for the wrongful death of Nicole (his ex-wife) and the Goldman kid.

And then, of course, there were the apologists back then 20 years ago, but you're not hearing from them today 20 years later. I wonder why. Is it because domestic violence now has gotten to the point where it's a worse charge than murder, rape, armed robbery, drug dealing, or any of the other crimes that the mutants on my caseload were convicted of, including domestic violence? If this case had gone straight to a criminal court, chances are Ray Rice would still be with the Baltimore Ravens. The case would have probably gotten adjudicated with nothing more than a conditional discharge.

RUSH: Well, now, wait a minute. The prosecutor didn't even care to bring charges on this.

CALLER: And you wonder why he didn't, right?

RUSH: Well, a lot of people are wondering why he didn't.

CALLER: Yeah. Well, let's put it this way. The mutants on my caseload here in the Bronx and later on in Brooklyn, if they were found to be first-time offenders the way Ray Rice was, they would have disposed of the case. Nothing more would have happened. He would have done some time at Rikers Island. Maybe if he had a prior criminal record, he'd go to Attica or Elmira State Prison, but otherwise this guy would still be in the NFL. He'd still be playing, and the apologists for OJ Simpson who have been mum and quiet, including the feminists who also didn't bring up hell about it.

Now, 20 years later, they want this guy to lose his job and lose his life.

RUSH: What's the difference? What's happened? What's your theory?

CALLER: Well, take a wild guess what happened. Domestic violence and other so-called liberal causes have gotten to the point where if you are called a racist, whether you are or not, that's worse than being a murderer or homicidal maniac the way OJ Simpson was. But, of course, if you don't get convicted, if you get acquitted by 12 numskulls on a jury, the other six numskulls on the libel case held him liable.

So any way you look at this, it all comes down to one thing. If you are a conservative, if you are anybody that has any type of justifiable case that you could get acquitted of, you are give him the benefit of the doubt. But this guy has already been convicted in a court of public opinion, not a court of public law, and if it would have been any one of the mutants on my caseload, chances are it would have been adjudicated.

He would maybe do probation and he'd be unfortunate enough to have me as his probation officer, because I'd make sure I'd bust his rear end any time he got arrested. So Ray Rice could have still been playing. He could be playing on Thursday night. It wouldn't have mattered what the NFL did.

But because they have this politically correct, Bolshevik-infested thought police that want to crucify this guy, he's not gonna be playing nut NFL any time soon. At best he'll be playing in the Arena Football League or maybe the Canadian Football League. But in two years from now if he gets reinstated, assuming he's a good boy and he doesn't do anything wrong and his wife he doesn't go back on Twitter proclaiming how their family's now been destroyed.

RUSH: (stifling laughter)

CALLER: Because, of course, she's not gonna get a hold of his millions. Unless, of course, she hires Raul Felder or Gloria All-Communist-Red to do the divorce proceedings and take what he's got, what he still has. Maybe at that point he might play again. But chances are he's gonna be mopping up floors at the local McDonald's where he lives, and he's lucky if he'll even get that job, because they're gonna crucify this guy.

RUSH: Yeah, that's happening. So you're distinguishing between a court of public opinion and a court of law.

CALLER: That's correct.

RUSH: But are you of the opinion that the public is not as outraged by this as the media is and it's the media that's just gone crazy with political correctness, or are you afraid that our whole culture is now buying into it?

CALLER: Well, all of the above. I mean, the media for sure has gone hog wild 180 degrees in the opposite direction. Now they're willing to take this guy on, but, meanwhile, the other more infamous players in the NFL like Plaxico Burress --

RUSH: Let's wait a minute, now. Geno, we gotta draw a couple distinctions. Ray Rice was never hired by Hertz to run through airports. He was never in Police Academy movies as a lovable character. He never won the Heisman Trophy. He was not NBC sideline sports commentator. Ray Rice was just a football player. OJ Simpson had built up a reservoir of love and respect and adoration -- and, you're right. There were all kinds of people defending him up until the very last.

CALLER: And then, of course, 15 years later, he proves his true colors by being convicted of four counts of armed robbery, supposedly to take back his memorabilia that he claims was stolen from him. Meanwhile, it was taken away from him because that was part of the deal that he had to pay back the Goldman and the Brown families.

RUSH: Right.

CALLER: So, of course, you know, OJ was given every possible break under the sun, and until that final conviction and a Nevada state jury that were smart enough to throw his sorry rear end in jail, then everything was okay. But this guy is getting crucified without even having a prior criminal record. He is a so-called first-time offender. Where are the liberals out there that always say, "Well, if he's a first-time offender, he should get a second chance"?

RUSH: Well, I think what happens here is that feminism trumps racism.

CALLER: There you go. You got it right. You know, that's why you got a talk show for the last 26 years and I don't.

RUSH: Well -- (laughing)

CALLER: And I should, too.

RUSH: Well -- (laughing)

CALLER: After all, you're the greatest radio talk show host of all time, and I'm the greatest radio talk show caller of all time.

RUSH: Well, I was just gonna say, you rank up there at the all-time high --

CALLER: Thank you, sir.

RUSH: -- talk show callers.

CALLER: And you've now earned yourself a free chicken parmesan dinner from me, and that goes for Mr. Snerdley, too, 'cause he put me on the air.

RUSH: Well, I appreciate that.

CALLER: You gotta come up to the Bronx, though, to come and get it, 'cause I don't deliver to Florida.

RUSH: Well, fine. You know, whatever it takes. You just keep a sharp eye on the sorry asses out there, keep protecting us.

CALLER: You got that right.

RUSH: All right. See you later.

quote:

RUSH: Somebody asked me today, "Have you ever thought that maybe, when you have a prediction, just hold it? Don't say it publicly, and then you won't get beaten up and you won't get ripped over the coals, and you can say it privately to let people know you've made the prediction. But it's just unfair, Rush, that you have to carry the singular burden of being right for so long all by yourself."

I said to this observant friend, "What are you talking about?"

"Well, what you said back even before he was inaugurated that you hoped he failed. You were six years ahead of the curve."

I said, "Yeah."

"Well, look at the burden you carried! Look at the all the arrows you took. Look at the all the criticism you took. Look at all the lies that were told about you because of that."

I said, "Yeah?"

"Well, if you wouldn't have said it in public and you had just held it for six years, when everybody else caught up with you, then you could have said it and you wouldn't have gotten so much grief."

"Well, maybe so, but I can't hold back what I think."

What they were talking about was January 16th, 2009. This is what I said in explaining to people that I did not need 400 words in the Wall Street Journal op-ed section to explain my hopes for the Obama presidency.

RUSH ARCHIVE: I got past the historical nature of this months ago. He is the president of the United States, he's my president, he's a human being, and his ideas and policies are what count for me, not his skin color, not his past, not whatever ties he doesn't have to being down for the struggle. All of that's irrelevant to me. We're talking about my country, the United States of America, my nieces, my nephews, your kids, your grandkids. Why in the world do we want to saddle them with more liberalism and socialism? Why would I want to do that? So I can answer it, four words, "I hope he fails."

RUSH: By now this is legendary. "I hope he fails." January 16, 2009. The Wall Street Journal was asking a bunch of people for 400-word essays on their hopes, dreams, thoughts on the Obama presidency. I said, "I don't need 400. I can do it in four: 'I hope he fails,'" and there was an eruption.

"How dare you say that!"

People said, "You can't say that!"

Even people on the Republican side said, "You can't run around saying you hope the country fails!"

I said, "I'm not. I'm saying the exact opposite. I hope Obama fails because I know who he is. I know what he's gonna do. I don't have my head in the sand. I'm not caught up in the historical nature of all this. You know, he's the president. He's not the black president, not the first this, the first that. There's no messiah. He's the president. What he thinks is what matters, what his policies are. That's all that matters to me.

"I know what they're gonna be, and I hope they don't work. I hope he fails!" Well, here we are. Washington Post. Six years later, ladies and gentlemen. "A majority of Americans and even many Democrats consider President Obama's tenure to be a 'failure,' according to a new poll from the Washington Post and ABC News. The poll shows Americans say 52-42 that Obama has been more of a failure than a success.

"Among registered voters, the gap is even bigger -- at 55-39 -- with four in 10 (41%) saying they 'strongly' believe Obama has been a failure." Now, I must admit, the public definition of failure is not exactly what mine was. What they are claiming is that the country's just in a funk. The country is lagging. The country's in malaise. The country's not moving forward.

There isn't any progress taking place. There's nothing good happening. There's nothing to be excited about. The Obama administration's been a failure in terms of what he promised. The truth of the matter is it has not been a failure. He has not failed. The Obama agenda continues to march on, and that's why people are disappointed.

The Obama agenda is succeeding, and whether people know it or not, that's why they're depressed. They don't want this, these 52%, these 59%. They didn't vote for this! This is not why they voted for the guy. They were voting for wholly different reasons. Chief among them, I'm convinced, many people thought voting for Obama would end racism, would end the allegations of racism.

It would demonstrate that we're long past slavery, would go a long way to absolving ourselves of our original sin. And because the Obama presidency has succeeded in his terms, that's why people are in a funk. They don't want this. They don't want a president that doesn't seem to care enough about his own country's standing in the world to maintain it.

They don't want a president who is happy or content with the job market the way it is. They do not want a president who lied to them 30 times about how they can keep their doctor and their health plan when they couldn't! They didn't vote for the federal government taking over the health care system.

They didn't vote for a failed HealthCare.gov website that doesn't work and may be compromising their privacy. They didn't vote for skyrocketing insurance premiums and reduced coverage. They didn't vote for 400,000 people migrating across the border since January alone, many of them teenage (and under) kids. They didn't vote for any of this. That's why they're in a funk.

They didn't vote for a president who's happy to preside over the new normal of unemployment at 11%. They didn't vote for that. That's why they're in a funk. So they say the Obama administration has been a failure. He hasn't moved the country forward. He hasn't reestablished upward mobility. He hasn't done away with federal spending and the debt. He hasn't reduced spending.

Well, he was never gonna do any of that. But people only know what they're told, and they were lied to. They were lied to by the Obama campaign; they were lied to by the media. It wasn't simply that Obama misled them. There were out-and-out lies. It's not just that Obama presented illusions and tried to hide the truth of the left-wing agenda.

They were lied to, such as (impression), "You like your doctor? You keep your doctor! You like your plan? You keep it!" They were lied to over and over again. People believe their president; he lied. The Democrat Party lied. The media stands up and supports the lies. They didn't vote for any of this. In hindsight, I ask myself, "Why couldn't more people have seen that exactly this was going to happen?"

I did, and it's not hard. These are liberals. These are socialists. These are people who have been educated to believe the United States is the problem in the world, not the solution. These are people who've grown up, and had it inculcated in their minds inside out for their entire lives, that the United States does not deserve to be a superpower.

That we're only a superpower because we have purloined what we have from other innocent people the world over. In other words, we're illegitimate. We were founded immorally and unjustly and we've become a big power by subjugating and being mean to others. Only the American people were not told that's who these people are, and the people running for office, Obama and the Democrats, did not announce this is who they are.

It isn't hard to find out.

All you have to do is listen to them when they're not campaigning. So while a majority of Americans say Obama's presidency is a failure, it isn't from Obama's perspective. Now, he may not have big approval numbers. People may not be happy. But I'm telling you, in terms of his agenda, he doesn't care. He may care ego-wise. He may himself have a messianic complex. He wants to be loved and adored. I don't know. But I guarantee you, Obama's not unhappy over the state of his agenda.

Everything they've touched in the Middle East has gone to hell, from the Arab Spring to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, to Syria, to Cairo to Egypt, you name it. I mean, it's utter disaster. Benghazi. Some people chalk it up to incompetence. They're being generous. Some people chalk it up to purposeful intent. Regardless, it's happening. And in the polling data it's very clear that the American people don't want this. That's why they view Obama's presidency to be a failure.

But he has succeeded, and he continues to. He's not checked out and he's not disinterested. That is a ruse. That is a game to help him speed the adoption of his agenda. Amnesty. Well, I mentioned that. The people didn't vote for this. They don't want amnesty, preelection, postelection. They didn't vote for it. This is not what they thought they were gonna get. So now the story is that Obama's depressed and dejected. He's bored. The job's beneath him. Gee, it's such a shame. It just doesn't challenge him. He'd rather play golf. All of these things like ISIS are just irritating interruptions of what Obama really likes. It's just such a shame.

Well, what better way than stealth? If you have the objective to totally transform this country, what better way to do it than to have people think you're not trying? You get them totally disarmed. Get people believing he's checked out, he doesn't care, he's not interested. Meanwhile, the agenda marches on. Obamacare is just marching to full implementation, despite every mess and problem that there is. There's no rollback. There can be. We could put the brakes on a lot of this stuff. It's going to take a willingness to oppose it.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: Margie, Indianapolis, great you waited, and welcome to the program.

CALLER: I've been meaning to call you about this for many years. So this is the first I've had a chance. My husband used to make me go and talk with our stock guy. I didn't understand a word he said, but I was glad I went that day. Everybody was upset 'cause they lost their money.

RUSH: You mean your stock, your investment guy?

CALLER: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he said, "I know everyone wants us to succeed, except Rush Limbaugh." I about jumped out of my chair.

RUSH: Whoa. Everybody wants to us succeed except me?

CALLER: Yeah!

RUSH: That's what this guy said?

CALLER: Yeah, with the economy, except Rush Limbaugh.

RUSH: What was he talking about, this mutant?

CALLER: What?

RUSH: What was he talking about?

CALLER: Well, the economy 'cause, you know, that's when everybody was upset, it was over four, five, six years ago --

RUSH: Was this when I said I hope Obama failed?

CALLER: Yes, yes, you hope Obama failed. And I about jumped out of my seat. And I said, "Wait a minute. That's not true. That's not true. Rush just wants Obama's policies to fail, because they're bad for the country." I have no idea what else I said because I was so upset.

RUSH: Well, I appreciate you defending --

CALLER: Yes.

RUSH: -- me like that. What did this mutant say?

CALLER: You know what, I don't remember, but we got out of there and I said to my husband, "We're getting our money out of that guy. He's insulted my good friend Rush Limbaugh, and I will not stand for that, and I love Rush."

RUSH: God bless you. There's a better reason. The guy's an idiot.

CALLER: Yes. Yes.

RUSH: You don't want this guy in charge of your money if he's that stupid.

CALLER: No. That's what I said. "Why would we want him, you know? He's not a conservative. And besides, he's got it all wrong about Rush, and he's lying. It's a lie." And you were right. Look what he's done to us.

RUSH: Well, Margie, you know, Margie is one of my all-time top ten favorite female names. I can't thank you enough. I don't get defended like that. Well, maybe a lot of you do and I just don't know about it, and if you do, I appreciate it. But I don't get defended much 'cause everybody says I can handle it. "Oh, Rush, he can handle it." So I appreciate you doing that.

FMguru posted:

Did you follow him out to his car afterwards and slit his throat, whispering in his ear that it was simply "the cost of Empire"?

If not, why?

BiggerBoat posted:

I can hardly read this. Is this the future of writing (phone posting/auto-correct) or were you trying to write like your friend speaks?

BiggerBoat posted:

It must be hard for FOX and Rush to approach a story like this. On the one hand, Rice is a ni...black male so he's guilty of everything. On the other hand, he's rich so he must be less guilty of the same things a poor person might do. On the third hand, "bitches are crazy, am I right?"

Their brains must become pretzels as they try to determine whether or not be racist, classist or misogynist.

quote:

RUSH: Well, I think what happens here is that feminism trumps racism.

UFOTofuTacoCat posted:

All this Cheney talk has me reminiscing about the days before the U.S. invaded Afghanistan and Iraq. Hahahahahaha.

He is just the worst.

McDowell posted:

We have done absolutely nothing to monitor potential threats or improve airplane security since 2001

Chantilly Say posted:

Not entirely. The cockpit door is now armored, and locked during flight.

That's kinda it. It actually does help prevent a hijacking.

Nintendo Kid posted:

It's also funny that that response wasn't taken back in the 70s when hijackings were a common occurrence.