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Prediction time... - How is Zarco gonna bottle it today? - Who is going to claim the victory when Zarco bottles it today? Hope Marc can come away with something decent today though. Spots of rain should add some suitable spice to proceedings. p.s. Also happy to be proven wrong by Zarco today; just not seeing it atm
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I doubt he even has to bottle it, quatrararo and olivera have been going so well this weekend the win is theirs to throw away. zarco got lucky with pole and if he can stay up he'll probably be on the podium which would be good for the championship
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Jun 20, 2021 12:50
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and that's why I don't bet, lmao. happy for Marc though that has to be a big ego boost.
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Jun 20, 2021 13:43
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Marc won that through sheer force of will,and the fact that Aleix backed everyone up when the rain warning flags came out while Marc just put his head down and went for it. I have to say all the fuckacting and hand waving during qualyifying was really annoying. Its one thing having the dumb teens in moto3 doing it. But alex marquez taking his hand off the throttle mid turn to wave at Miller and almost causing a 3 bike pile up should have got him put to the back of the grid.
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Jun 20, 2021 19:56
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FBS posted:I hope I get to root for an American again someday. Too early to say, but there's promise. Rossi Moor was lapping me four years ago on a kx65, and now he's racing in the Northern Talent Cup, a feeder league for moto3. The top racers get rides in moto3, and in his first season he's gotten pole twice but couldn't keep up on rainy and mixed races. This weekend in Germany they finally got some dry races and he showed everyone what he can do. 2nd on race 1, and his first win on race 2. This puts him 3rd in points with 4 rounds left. Worth following if you wanna see a fast American again, but you won't hear the right anthem, as he's racing as a Hungarian (born on Portland Oregon, but both parents from Hungary, which is how he got in) Full race 2 here, it's up there with moto3 in how close the racing is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye9JvrFJ6z0
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Jun 20, 2021 22:49
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echomadman posted:Marc won that through sheer force of will
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Jun 21, 2021 01:24
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Haha nice one from Acosta, kicking butt and taking names again as riders were dropping like flies. Good one for Remy too. Oliveira did the job imo.
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Meanwhile, in the bin:quote posted:“I always have the same problem and that is that the rear wheel skids a lot,” he fumed afterwards. “I have been saying it since Portimao and there is no solution. Yes it is true that we are working , but… six races have already passed to find a solution.
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Jun 21, 2021 02:15
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Slavvy posted:Meanwhile, in the bin: That was hands down the best thing I've read in ages. Never stop being you, Maverick.
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Jun 21, 2021 02:28
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He's gone right. Zarco to factory Yam?
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Jun 21, 2021 05:51
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Also unrelated anything, I was thinking about this race the other day. https://www.motoracing-japan.com/result/jrr/1998/r1998_09.html That field lol.
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Jun 21, 2021 07:19
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What do these tire graphics mean from qualifying? S/M/H is obvious, but is white and yellow? New vs used? Why different shades/filling?
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Jun 21, 2021 18:07
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White and yellow correspond to soft and hard. The tyre sidewall is painted to match so you can tell from a distance, no paint is a medium. Filled vs hollow is new vs used tyres yeah.
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Similar bin, opposite mindset:quote posted:"Honestly, I was following my line [with bike set-up] because I felt it was good but in today's race… in the time attack I was not too bad, I was fast, even on the race pace," Espargaro explained. Binales and Yamaha have both been in denial about the bolded part. Yamaha isn't in denial anymore and seem to have given up on achieving anything with him. The only people to achieve anything on the Yamaha in recent memory have all done their damnedest to incorporate Lorenzo's approach, while binales' mistakenly thinks the bike can somehow be made stop-go fast like the v4's and seems to think Yamaha are just choosing not to do this. His very first crew chief was Lorenzo's guy, who was in morbidelli's box last year, and the results are plain to see. Copying the fastest guy is how they all do it, if you don't have to copy at all then you're literally Marc Marquez and don't need to copy by virtue of your supreme adaptability, not religious adherence to your comfort zone. Even Lorenzo himself, arch manbaby with a thousand red gummy bears in his trailer, successfully adapted to Ducati's extreme stop-go character.
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Slavvy posted:Similar bin, opposite mindset: Well said - it's hilarious because as I read your post, i went to search "Vinales Yamaha Contract" and Google top searches got there before I could!
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Jun 23, 2021 20:45
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Slavvy posted:This post will age extremely well. 
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Jun 24, 2021 14:26
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It shows that you're only as good as your last race result, stats are for dorks and nobody looks at them.
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Jun 24, 2021 19:01
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Slavvy posted:It shows that you're only as good as your last race result, stats are for dorks and nobody looks at them. Secret Vinales enthusiast spotted.
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builds character posted:Secret Vinales enthusiast spotted. Binales' stats are abysmal, Yamaha picked him up because people thought the Suzuki was much shittier in 2016 than it really was and that he was working some kind of miracle to win a race on it. In hindsight it was probably nearly on par with the Yamaha, which itself wasn't a trainwreck at the time. The people writing contracts seem to be just as susceptible to goldfish memory as spectators, and it seems like everyone is desperate to find the next Marquez so they take punts on people like iker while people like Redding lose their seats. Sometimes it even works, you turn over a rock and a quartararo jumps out.
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Jun 24, 2021 19:48
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Slavvy posted:Sometimes it even works, you turn over a rock and a quartararo jumps out. This is the problem.
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builds character posted:This is the problem. Everyones just biding their time to get Acosta on a GP bike now
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echomadman posted:Everyones just biding their time to get Acosta on a GP bike now Acosta has crazy stats though. So did Marquez, so did Rossi and stoner and George and all the rest of the greats. So he's an obvious bet. But then look at quartararo's stats (one moto2 podium), they are abysmal and he doesn't look like he'd be anywhere near morbidelli (championship, reams of wins and podiums) but he's turned out to be a little bit faster. This happens maybe one in a hundred times but it's enough to perpetuate the sweaty-handed hype-driven speculation that fucks good riders over. I think they should at the very least introduce a contract negotiation window so you don't have dumb stuff like guys losing their seat before they've even turned a wheel.
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Jun 25, 2021 00:08
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i'm not religious but Assen is like church for me.
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Jun 25, 2021 13:19
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o gently caress Marquez
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https://twitter.com/aaronbearden93/status/1408489112563240964?s=20
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Acosta got run over 
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algebra testes posted:Acosta got run over That would have been the dumbest way to get really badly hurt or killed. They need to have the flags as lights on the bikes dash, everyone that was racing in that pack bar Acosta and McPhee had already taken the chequered flag.
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Binales to Aprilia lmao
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Slavvy posted:Binales to Aprilia lmao Nice shitpost Wait Oh god oh god you're serious lmao
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Slavvy posted:Binales to Aprilia lmao Just when I think this sport can't provide any more sheer amusement. I guess congratulations are in order for Yamaha. Humour me ladies/fellas - Dovi for Yamaha 2022... I mean, Binales to Aprilia is happening so I'm not taking anything off the table.
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Well done to Fabio; keep working on that golf swing though lad. LOL @ Binales. Hope he feels every bit the Aprilia-bound dipshit after that P2.
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hmm, i can't figure out how to pass on my corner speed bike. perhaps i should go to ducati and try something different? nah, let's go to another corner speed bike that also has less horsepower, i'm binales and i'm very smart.
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Update on mini Rossi: That speck up ahead is him in race 2. 7 second lead against the other spec KTMs. Unfortunately he's pretty weak in the wet, so the mixed conditions in race 1 put him in 9th. If he can solve that, he'll be unstoppable. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaBYqzmY9gw
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https://www.yamahamotogp.com/news/28-06-2021-yamaha-and-maverick-vinales-agree-to-part-ways-in-2022 got made official yesterday. so far I haven't seen anything other than wild speculation over who gets that seat not to mention where it leaves petronas if franky gets it
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Franky is not getting that seat. People are thinking he will because it would be logical and make sense to put your second best rider on your second factory bike. But Yamaha aren't operating on logic they're operating on gently caress franco morbidelli. Plus petronas don't seem as interested in being Yamaha's bitch as tech3 were, in all likelihood they'd rather keep him and lobby for a current bike than replace him with a flawed moto 2 guy, which is all the options they have atm I hope it's gerloff. Fernandez is going to replace petrucci because KTM wanted to cut off the possiblity of him going to Yamaha. Bezzechi is either staying put or going to vr46, Gardner is also at KTM, there's basically nobody decent left in moto 2 for them to choose from. Slavvy fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Jun 29, 2021 |
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the paradigm shift posted:https://www.yamahamotogp.com/news/28-06-2021-yamaha-and-maverick-vinales-agree-to-part-ways-in-2022 So going with Vinales as my guy from the start has been a...bumpy road. I will say, it was a lot of fun to see him in this race. I kept hoping he'd get by Nakagami and Bagnaia, and when he finally did it was great to see him cut Quatararo's lead a bit, even though he didn't have enough time left to make a game of it. As someone new to this sport though, going from Yamaha (which seems to have pretty excellent bikes) to Aprilia (which seems to have kind of crappy bikes) seems like a very strange choice. Am I missing something there? Moto3 was awesome as ever. I can't believe Fenati was able to knock out a double long lap penalty and claw his way back to the podium, that was a hell of a ride. Acosta seems to have a couple moments in each race where he should definitely crash, and yet he almost always stay on. Assuming he finishes the season, I don't see how anyone catches him. Do most of you have a favorite rider that you cheer for against everyone else? When I watch other sports I'm dedicated to a particular team, and don't really enjoy the success of other folks. But for this, maybe because I'm new to it and haven't developed deep loyalties, I really like watching everyone, and the battles at the front are great no matter who's winning (although it was awesome to see Yamaha 1 & 2 this week). Am I weird in that or do most people enjoy motorcycling that way?
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Generally only mouthbreathers obsess over one rider at the expense of others (these were called Rossi fans but they're mostly dead now), everyone has favorites and people you don't like but you watch it for the stories, all those little sub-plots intersecting and affecting one another. Plus the battles. Plus the technique (it is much, much more interesting if you know how to ride a bike), plus the engineering aspects of the bikes which are honestly probably the least influential thing on the results. Aprilia are crappy bikes yes, but binales has no choice whatsoever. No other seats are available until 2023 and skipping a year is a good way of retiring. The bikes are now so close that in a purely performance sense he could probably do some damage on the Aprilia early in in the season, the problem is their tiny budget and amateur hour team. The bike and rider can contribute to good individual results but points over the length of a season are influenced by development and strategy and the work of the team personnel, this is why the satellite teams tend to have really strong early results that fizzle out as the season goes on and the big boy factory outfits really get going. Like how a man can outrun a horse until the horse sorts all it's legs out.
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Slavvy posted:Generally only mouthbreathers obsess over one rider at the expense of others (these were called Rossi fans but they're mostly dead now), everyone has favorites and people you don't like but you watch it for the stories, all those little sub-plots intersecting and affecting one another. Plus the battles. Plus the technique (it is much, much more interesting if you know how to ride a bike), plus the engineering aspects of the bikes which are honestly probably the least influential thing on the results.
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JohnClark posted:I have wondered about this. I've been riding motorcycles for a little over a decade, but I just tool around country roads for fun, if my lean angle exceeds 10 degrees very often I'd be surprised. Is there a good resource to learn what to watch for in terms of riding technique? Sylvan guintoli's YT channel is a good place to start if you want high level poo poo from the horse's mouth. If you just want to get better at riding in an immediate sense read/watch twist of the wrist and total control, these are a good way of understanding fundamentals which you may or may not need idk. But mostly you kind of need to understand what they're trying to do with the bike and what you're seeing is just their method for achieving that aim, and that understanding comes from improving your own riding not looking at others from the outside. Horse before cart. Otherwise: try posting in other threads on this forum, there are lots of clever riders here.
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