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Quackles
Aug 11, 2018

Pixels of Light.


Gumshoe's great, honestly.

Edit: (The update is near the bottom of the previous page.)

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raifield
Feb 21, 2005

achtungnight posted:

Before she died, the victim wrote the killer’s name? She can’t have done that if she died instantly! Also, where is Maya’s motive?

Perhaps the law office was bequeathed to Maya in the will, and she wants to leave the spirit medium business. Can't say it's done her family very well so far.

DKII
Oct 21, 2010

Part 21: Episode 2, Trial: Turnabout is Fair Play?



I kind of gave it away in the last update, but the audience vote is unanimous here (and correct).



Still, let's press first on everything anyway.

Music: Questioning - Moderato

After securing the suspect, I examined the scene of the crime with my own eyes.





Not all of these presses are going to be good for us.

Now, now, don't jump the gun on me, pal.

Just listen. I'm getting to the good part!



I found a memo written on a piece of paper next to the victim's body!





Yeah, you tell him! Though I think some evidence would be more persuasive here.

Ho hoh! Then who did write it, smarty-pants?



Well, the killer, obviously.



Hoh.



Uh, no.



She was framed!



Hold on.



How come the prosecution makes legitimate objections, while I can only yell it out when I'm presenting evidence?

Ah... (Urk!)



Edgeworth can hardly contain his disdain for us.



Those without evidence shouldn't open their mouths, Mr. Wright.

I got the feeling there was some history between these two earlier when we were digging for info on him with Gumshoe, but it seems the hostility goes both ways here.

Yeah, pal!

Quiet, the grownups are talking.



These presses are at least good for revealing more Edgeworth sprites. He comes off like a smug rear end in a top hat in every single one though.

quote:

Maybe Miss May wrote the note?

Well... it could have been the witness, Miss May!



Hold on.

The witness was in her hotel room, not the office.

Try pulling the other leg, Mr. Wright!

Yeah, and while you're at it, pull mine too, pal!

(Argh...!)

Well, Detective? Tell us what was written on that memo you found.

Slightly less of an rear end in a top hat there I guess? It was a stupid conjecture on our part.

quote:

Let's confess to writing the note ourselves!

It... it could have been me!

What! S-so it was you!

No, no, no, I'm just saying it COULD have been me!

Can you prove it wasn't?



Hold on.

So, you admit to this?

You admit that you wrote the note?

Uh...

Listen to me, Mr. Wright.

This is a court of law, and I expect you to refrain from making thoughtless statements!

Amateur!

(...!)

Yeah Edgeworth schools us no matter what we say. Oh well.



On it, the word "Maya" was written clearly in blood!







Of course I do, pal!

(Uh oh... he sounded pretty confident. This might not be good...)

Lab test results showed that the blood was the victim's!





Huh? What kind? Umm... well...



No, keep going, you're doing great.

Hermo... goblins... hobgob... Er...? Herma-goblin bobbin...



:allears:

I'm no expert on blood tests!







These animations are too fun to not show this update, #sorrynotsorry.

Y-yeah?



Geez, what a dick. Prosecutors shouldn't antagonize their police witnesses.

...O-oh...

(That was a mess...)



Also, there was blood found on the victim's finger!





The right hand!

(Hmm... she WAS right handed...)

Yeah, that one would've been too easy.





Before she died, the victim wrote the killer's name!



Detective Gumshoe!



Sure! It happens all the time in books and the movies!

This isn't a movie, Detective.

That's right, it's a video game, and that wasn't in your list!

Oof!

Let's talk about reality, shall we?





Especially the name of her own sister?

Ah, yeah, actually, you got a point, pal.

There's our hint that there's a contradiction to be found in this line.



Of course, Edgeworth isn't about to let us get any more free shots in here.



Your pointing pose is nowhere near as cool, dude.



The witness's opinion on the matter is irrelevant!





And your slam is lame too! So there.

The victim told us the name of her killer!



The crowd's not impressed with us here.



Order! Order!



Settle down, man, we've got this!



Well, we're at the end, does Phoenix and/or Maya have any more sage advice for us?



(Okay, there has to be a contradiction in there somewhere. Let's find it!)

Just a reminder that we need to do more than press this time. Guess we'll present some evidence!



Screwing up the evidence in this trial just gives us the same warnings as last time. If we lose all our health sections, we get the same text for the guilty verdict as well, just with Maya's name switched in for Larry's. We do get a somewhat-unique image of Maya for some reason at the witness stand as she's pronounced guilty, though!



I'm sure I'll still have to twist into a pretzel to prove someone else did it somehow, but at least we can get this note quickly thrown out. There's no way Mia wrote the note if she died instantaneously!



Music: Silence



Detective Gumshoe!





That she was accusing the defendant, Maya Fey?

That's really what you're saying?



Of course she wrote it! Who else could have!?





B-backwards?

Here it comes!

Music: Objection!



"Immediate death due to a blow from a blunt object."





But...!

No "but"-ing your way out of this one, Detective!





Order! Order!

The defense has a point.



Take that, "hard evidence"!



Mr. Wright.



What's it to you, we tricked it out of Gumshoe fair and square!



I didn't really forget, but why does it even matter?

I'm... sorry, I forgot.



Hah! Forgot, you say?



I knew that! I was just...testing you.

I was the one who handed it to him myself! Personally!

Oh. R-right.

quote:

Instead of forgetting, what if we get the question wrong and say we got the report the day of the murder?

I... I'm pretty sure it was the day of the murder.

You're wrong there, pal!

We didn't write an autopsy report 'til the day after!

Oh. Right.

quote:

Get it right, and we cut straight to the chase:

It was the day after the murder...





I have a bad feeling all of the sudden.



Outdated? This was yesterday!

Wh-what!?



Like hell it was.



"But there is a possibility the victim lived for several minutes after the blow."

Holy poo poo, did this guy just fabricate evidence against us? So not only is the witness framing our client, the prosecutor is straight up making poo poo up too?









He's even wagging his finger at us. This guy.



Did he just take a loving bow at us? They seriously made him a protagonist later? (No, don't tell me.) What an rear end in a top hat.

That is all.

I see!

(drat you, Edgeworth!)



Well I'm pretty stumped on what to do now, so I guess we'll just let the rest of this scene play out.



I have never wanted to punch a video game character this much.

Why, Mr. Wright, you look shocked!



I probably shouldn't, but gently caress you Edgeworth!

Mr. Edgeworth...











No matter, Your Honor...

Mr. Wright.



quote:

You know what, this is really all Gumshoe's fault. He gave us a bad report!

Detective Gumshoe! You're a sham!

How could you give me a faulty report!?

Huh? I-I thought...

Detective Gumshoe.

Urp!

I'm disappointed in you, handing him the wrong report like that.

Eh...? I... I'm sorry, sir.

You are at fault, Detective.

This isn't going to look good on your evaluation next month.

W-what? B-but... *sigh*

Forget that, Gumshoe is like an innocent puppy.

quote:

Maybe we're the sham...

Detective Gumshoe.

Was I a fool to trust you and your report?

Huh? Me? I-I wasn't... huh?

Detective Gumshoe.

Urp!

I'm disappointed in you, handing him the wrong report like that.

Eh...? I... I'm sorry, sir.

You are at fault, Detective.

This isn't going to look good on your evaluation next month.

W-what? B-but... *sigh*

Yeah there's no way Gumshoe gave us a false report. This is all Edgeworth's scheming!

Your Honor, I submit this report to the court.

U-understood. The court accepts the evidence.



What utter bullshit. Did he just turnabout our turnabout with some made up garbage?

Well, Your Honor?



I suppose that's the obvious conclusion, yes.



This motherfucker takes another loving bow, I can't even.

Music: Silence



The prosecution would like to call its next witness.

Well, Gumshoe was a disaster for us. Next time we'll get a chance to redeem ourselves, with...



You guessed it...





achtungnight
Oct 5, 2014
I get my fun here. Enjoy!
Hoo boy, the prosecutor is more challenging this time. We’ll see what happens next.

GilliamYaeger
Jan 10, 2012

Call Gespenst!
Obligatory video.

Also a pretty funny alternate version of how this poo poo would play out if Phoenix was competent.

fatsleepycat
Oct 2, 2021
Edgeworth is the living incarnation of :smug: in this update.

And you were saying he had no smiles in his sprite sheet.

Leraika
Jun 14, 2015

Luckily, I *did* save your old avatar. Fucked around and found out indeed.

I was wondering how long it'd take someone to post this.

mr_stibbons
Aug 18, 2019
And this is the point after which you no longer feel bad about all the legally suspect shenanigans that you will be engaging in. If that's how Edgeworth is going to play this, than anything goes.

wologar
Feb 11, 2014

නෝනාවරුනි

This is gold.

Polsy link to avoid spoilers in related videos.

Quackles
Aug 11, 2018

Pixels of Light.


DKII posted:

These presses are at least good for revealing more Edgeworth sprites. He comes off like a smug rear end in a top hat in every single one though.

That's our Edgeworth!

Regallion
Nov 11, 2012

Also this:
When the updated report hits

DKII
Oct 21, 2010

You know, I should have expected this format to result in fanart videos vs drawings but I am once again taken by surprise. Those were fantastic, I shoved them into the front page here.

raifield
Feb 21, 2005
The game does an absolutely perfect job of making Edgeworth into a character that will cause to reflexively punch your GBA/DS/monitor, and it only takes a single case.

The sprite of him tapping his forehead as he condescendingly shoots you down is the most rage-inducing for me, personally.

theshim
May 1, 2012

You think you can defeat ME, Ephraimcopter?!?

You couldn't even beat Assassincopter!!!
Edgeworth is a magnificent rear end in a top hat and I love him. :allears:

These games are incredibly good at making you love or hate the characters. For a game with a handful of sprites originally on the GBA, they're still absolutely brimming with personality.

t3isukone
Dec 18, 2020

13km away

You forgot to link the fandubbed version!

davidspackage
May 16, 2007

Nap Ghost
This LP has me replaying the game again. The further I get, the less I remember of the cases, and it almost gets like playing them for the first time. Still get a small thrill when I present evidence and the music cuts out.

raifield
Feb 21, 2005

davidspackage posted:

This LP has me replaying the game again. The further I get, the less I remember of the cases, and it almost gets like playing them for the first time. Still get a small thrill when I present evidence and the music cuts out.

Same, I didn't even know I already owned the Steam version.

I just finished the third case with almost no previous memory of how it played out. One particular character did not age well at all.

DKII
Oct 21, 2010

Part 22: Episode 2, Trial: Innocent Liar

Brace yourself, here comes the poor, innocent Miss April May!



Quiet, you were practically drooling over her at the hotel yourself.



Fun fact: There is a sprite for Phoenix that doesn't actually get used in the game; I'm told it was intended for this scene, before the game was redone to have Phoenix meeting Miss May at the hotel. What was the sprite, you ask?



Not a great sign for our ability to cross-examine this witness....

Music: Happy People





....What.



That animation alone is enough to get the crowd buzzing again. From behind, Miss May's pose here looks like she's flashing the judge. Which she might as well have been.





You tell 'em, judge.



Yeah, the wink was the problem.



Good thing these aren't really jury trials, we'd be screwed. Here I just have to hope the judge isn't swayed by her act.

(This is not good...)





Asshat is the only one not moved by the witness's display.



I checked in right after lunch.

And this hotel is directly across from the Fey & Co. Law Offices?

Mmm... that's right, big boy.



Music: Silence



Music: Questioning - Moderato





The one attacking her was the mousey girl sitting in the defendant's chair!

Then the woman, like, dodged to one side and ran away!





She kinda... slumped.



Hmm. That's it? For the first time in this game, I don't really know what to do.

Music: Silence



Stop saying what I say, game.



I swear to god, if you bow again, I'll...do nothing because I have no agency here.

I see. It is a remarkably solid testimony.



W-wait, Your Honor!

Yes, Mr. Wright?



Why would we need to do that, the judge is already bamboozled. :rolleyes:



Oh just let me do my job. I'm sure we'll figure something out.



What's it to you, pal!?

You must know her techniques well.



That's the first crack we've seen in Edgeworth's calm smugness so far.



Just go do your pointing thing and let's get this pink fraud.



gently caress yes we're doing it.



(If only because I have a feeling Edgeworth doesn't want me to!)

(She has to have some weakness!)

quote:

Just for fun, what if we declined our cross-examination?

No... you're right. I guess there wouldn't be much point.

Heh heh heh. I'm glad you saw the error of your ways so soon!

Your Honor.

The prosecution rests its case!

Yeah, he took another bow at us. Fair, since we basically gave up.

(Wh-what? That's it!?)

Very well.

W-wait! Hold on!

Yes, Mr. Wright? Changed your mind? Will you cross-examine the witness?

Yes yes yes!

(I'd better, or I'll lose on the spot!)

I should pick the joke options more often, they've been funnier lately!





I'm not really sure what to do here so it's a good time to break for some thread input. On the other hand this update is still pretty short. Let's see if pressing on everything gives us any hints.

It was, like, 9:00 at night. I looked out the window, y'know!





Huh? "Why"? Like, why what?

Why did you look out the window? Were you expecting to see something?

Oh, well, um... gee!



I sort of, y'know.



Do those things have a motor in them or something? Anyway your distraction isn't going to work lady!

I had a feeling!





Yeah, let's get her!



Surely, you must have had a reason to look out your window at that time of night!



Crazy eyes are back! This lady's story is paper thin and pressing on the very first statement already reveals that she has nothing to back up what she's saying.



Unfortunately we are facing a competent prosecutor this time.



More finger-waggling at us.

B-badgering?

You insist on needling her with these trivial questions.



I really don't think it should be allowed.

Badgering is a legitimate objection. However the witness was clearly dodging the question.



Edgeworth's act isn't meant for the judge, though. He's playing to the crowd.



They've totally bought into Miss May's act, and are about to start throwing things at us.



Music: Silence

Order!



The judge is mostly not a fan of the crowd getting too rowdy. We don't actually lose any health sections here, however.

Music: Questioning - Moderato



quote:

If we don't continue with the press, we get a much shorter cut as we back off:

(If I go to deep, I might not come back out alive... I'll back off for now.)



We end up seamlessly transitioning to the next line of testimony as normal.

And then, oooh! I saw a woman with long hair being attacked!







(Your... thing?)



The one attacking her was the mousey girl sitting in the defendant's chair!





How do you know she was the defendant?

Huh? Well... y'know!

Again with the lack of detail when pressed for more information on her testimony.



Look... I-I just know, okay?







If it's so bulletproof, then why do I have an option to keep digging away at it, huh? That option bit us last time, though; let's just keep going for now.



(And everyone in the court keeps siding with her.)

(I'd better not press too hard on this one.)



Then the woman, like, dodged to one side and ran away!





Well... the attack!

We're going to have to force her to get more specific at some point if we want to find a contradiction.



But that girl, she caught up to her and... and... She hit her!





Huh? Well, I... gee!



And, and secondly, she was... she was small.

Again with the small physique thing.





We're given two options again. We're at the last line of testimony, so I guess we should question it this time.

quote:

If we let it slide, we get the same dialogue as the last time Miss May brought up the "physique" of who she says she saw, with one additional line at the end:

(Maybe I should listen to the testimony again.)

We're then brought back to the same line of testimony; a hint to keep going on it this time.

quote:

If we run out of testimony without pressing enough, we loop back to the beginning again with these lines:

(Hmm... that's it?)

(Nothing really jumps out as a contradiction...)

(There's got to be something in there somewhere!)

(Maybe I'd better just press her on the facts a bit!)

Another hint to press a little harder!

Music: Silence



We get this same scene for questioning her testimony on either time she mentions Maya's "physique".

W-what!?



Not sure there's a material difference in these two options, but she's definitely lying.



quote:

Indeed, just that one line changes with the other option:

Did you really see the defendant at all?

Urp!



The crowd reacts rather quickly on that one.





Okay, sure, just accusing the witness of lying is bad form. Let's see if we can back it up.



Okay...

If you had really witnessed my client, Maya Fey...



Uhh, maybe? It was night, maybe it was dark? Is this where the broken light stand comes in?

Music: Telling the Truth

...!





Maya's going to throw something at him again. Maybe a brick this time.





The testimony is bogus!

Well, I think we've unlocked the second testimony sequence at least. I'm not sure this line of questioning will really go anywhere, but maybe Miss May will slip up while providing more details.





She was, Your Honor!



And so did Detective Gumshoe!



What do you say to that, Miss May?



She's not exactly frothing at the mouth yet, but she does seem to be distressed now.

I-I saw what I saw.



Miss May.



I'm sorry, Your Honor. I'll be a good girl. I promise. *wink*

Your testimony again, if you would.



Relax, we have a lot of crap in our inventory I don't know how to use yet, we're still going to be awhile here.









Then the girl in the hippie clothes ran after her...

And she hit her with that weapon! I saw it! I did!





Music: Silence

I... see.



Please begin the cross-examination.

No messing around saying we don't need it this time. Even the judge can spot this one. Can you?

MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013

vriska (vriska)
Clever, the way they set you up for this one.

Quackles
Aug 11, 2018

Pixels of Light.


quote:


Fun fact: In all versions through the DS version, there was a typo here and it read "wonton winking".

They fixed it for the collection.

theshim
May 1, 2012

You think you can defeat ME, Ephraimcopter?!?

You couldn't even beat Assassincopter!!!

Quackles posted:

Fun fact: In all versions through the DS version, there was a typo here and it read "wonton winking".

They fixed it for the collection.
I was about to post that! That's such a fun typo :allears:

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

I'm 😤 not a 🦸🏻‍♂️hero...🧜🏻



Quackles posted:

Fun fact: In all versions through the DS version, there was a typo here and it read "wonton winking".

They fixed it for the collection.

Now I'm hungry

davidspackage
May 16, 2007

Nap Ghost
I've occasionally gone for the "wait and see" option, I don't think it's ever the right choice.

achtungnight
Oct 5, 2014
I get my fun here. Enjoy!
I’m guessing the Thinker is worth presenting here. It’s hard to tell it’s a clock from a distance if you don’t already know.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!

DKII posted:



Did he just take a loving bow at us? They seriously made him a protagonist later? (No, don't tell me.) What an rear end in a top hat.

The thing you'll find is that everyone in Ace Attorney is at least slightly an rear end in a top hat.

wologar
Feb 11, 2014

නෝනාවරුනි

Blueberry Pancakes posted:

The thing you'll find is that everyone in Ace Attorney is at least slightly an rear end in a top hat.

How dare you slander Gumshoe like that!

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe

wologar posted:

How dare you slander Gumshoe like that!

ACAB, pal

GilliamYaeger
Jan 10, 2012

Call Gespenst!
I think everyone can agree that Gumshoe can be a real Dick sometimes. :v:

DKII
Oct 21, 2010

Part 23: Episode 2, Trial: Pulling Threads



There are a few different threads to pull at here. However, only one piece of evidence was directly referenced in the testimony...



Music: Questioning - Moderato

I did see everything! I did!





Of course!

I'd remember that spiky hair anywhere!

(Spiky...?)



Is that really an attack? Is spiky hair an insult? Is his hair really all that spiky?

Aww, was I a bad girl? I'm sowwy.



The victim--the woman--dodged the first attack and ran off to the right.





Um... which hand do I hold my knife in again...?

Right! It was my right hand! Right?



Then the girl in the hippie clothes ran after her...





That's what you--I mean, that's what she was wearing!

Oh, and her hair was all done up like a bun!

(*sigh*...)

Now that we've given her all these details, she's happy to slip them into her testimony.



And she hit her with that weapon! I saw it! I did!





She picked it up from the desk!



Points to the judge for asking the key question here.

That... that clock! Um... the kinda statue-y clock? "The Thinker," I think?



A... clock?

Music: Silence



Indeed. Everyone else has been calling the murder weapon a statue again. So how does Miss May know that it's a clock?



(No... but I have a feeling I'm on to something now!)

I do like how the music goes quiet here to get the player's attention. We're brought back to the same line of testimony, another hint that we should present a contradiction here. But first let's grab the "start over" dialogue.

Music: Questioning - Moderato



(So this was the testimony in her own words...?)

(Time to press and squeeze the truth out of her! Figuratively, of course.)



So is this piece of evidence a statue, or a clock?



Music: Silence

Miss May.

Music: Objection!







But there's no way of knowing that just by looking at it!

Urp!

Another person in much the same position as you recently called this a "clock,", too...





I'm surprised that statement didn't get an objection, but it gets the crowd buzzing again.



Order! Order!



Oooh... urp!





Goes to credibility, Your Honor. If the witness is lying about the murder weapon, she could be lying about who she saw commit the murder!





Your face is trivial!



What the poo poo kind of kangaroo court is this? Come on.



Luckily Phoenix grabs this one on his own.



But questions are all I have, Your Honor!

Especially when the prosecutor is fabricating evidence! Don't think I've forgotten that one, Edgeworth!



(Well, only once...)



...





I mean, we came all the way here, put on these fancy suits and robes, we might as well try to carry out some justice.

(Whew, that was close.)



You're doing great, keep it up!





What...! Th-that's...



Are you asking me or telling me?

Yes! I heard it say the time!







I heard it from my hotel room. Hee hee!



She could easily have heard the clock!

Were the windows even open? I thought the office windows were closed.



Not likely! This thread is the only one we have to pull on!



No, Your Honor!

(I can't give up now!)



It's been awhile since the prologue, though we got a reminder along the way. There's no way she could have heard the clock! It wasn't working!



Triumph pose! Guess we got that one right.

quote:

Technically both options are correct; you can't hear a clock that isn't working, after all. Let's see what the first one gives us.

You were at the hotel!

There's no way you could have heard a clock go off in the building next door!



You have proof that she could not?

Uh...

Amateurs, amateurs. Listen to me, Mr. Wright.

In the courtroom, proof is everything. Without it, you have nothing. You ARE nothing.

Then I would like to propose a test to see if she really could have heard...

The prosecution denies your request!

Wh-what!? On what grounds?

This is a trivial matter with no direct bearing on the case at hand!

Indeed. Objection sustained.

(drat! Time to switch directions... quick!)

Ready to proceed, Mr. Wright?

Interesting scene, but I wasn't interested in letting Edgeworth showboat on us again. Anyway, from there we're brought back up to the head shake and get the original prompt again. No penalty, either!



We get another choice here. There's a way to look up the answer if you don't remember, but I'll get to that later. The clock was hollowed out to hold some evidence - it's empty!





We get an immediate crowd reaction from that revelation.



It takes three gavel strikes to quiet everyone down this time.







Oh!

See anything interesting, Your Honor?



quote:

The clock is broken! More than just broken, really, but let's see what this option gives us.

I-I think it's broken! That clock's busted!

You "think"?

J-just look at it! Your Honor, please examine the clock!

Hmm...

Oh!

See anything interesting, Your Honor?

Well, I'm not sure I would call this "broken," but I doubt it could ring...!

quote:

The batteries are not present at all; that kind of counts as them being dead?

The batteries in that clock should be dead!

"Should be," Mr. Wright?

Your Honor, if you would inspect the clock...!

Hmm... very well.

...

Oh!

Well, Your Honor? Are they...?

This clock has graver problems than dead batteries!

Music: Silence



It's quite empty!





Mr. Wright!



It is as you can see.





I wouldn't normally jam three lines of dialogue into one animation, but this shot was a good oppportunity to show off two things: The facial tick that Miss May has on this sprite, and the varying speed at which dialogue is revealed in the text boxes at times.



Well, Miss May?



Tsk tsk.

?



Just like in the first episode, we have one more thing to prove with this statue/clock.



Music: Objection!



Uh-oh, Edgeworth has the fancy objection music now.

Indeed, the clock is empty. As you say... it can't ring.

However, we must ask: when was the clockwork removed?



There's a legitimate objection here. The clock wasn't actually empty; it had some evidence stuffed in it, that the killer removed. So in an alternate universe where Maya is guilty, she could have removed the clockwork after the murder. Of course, no clockwork was found on her or in the office, so even if that scenario were true, where did the clockwork go?

!



The clock might have been emptied after she heard it.



Well, Mr. Wright?





Ho hoh! Impossible, of course...



We do?

W-what!?



Technically, that line of dialogue is optional and we didn't see it in this run, but go on.

Well, I was listening.

Music: Silence







Phoenix was doing so well on his own, I was wondering when we'd have to provide some input again. There are still several items here we haven't used yet, but only one right answer for this prompt. Which one is it?

FoolyCharged
Oct 11, 2012

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

I appreciate everyone voting for the badge.

DKII
Oct 21, 2010

FoolyCharged posted:

I appreciate everyone voting for the badge.

Those votes came in very quickly!

Because this "present" is a special prompt, there's a special scene for getting it wrong. Don't worry, I'll show it off in a sidebar even if the vote gets the right answer though!

achtungnight
Oct 5, 2014
I get my fun here. Enjoy!
The cell phone conversation.

raifield
Feb 21, 2005

FoolyCharged posted:

I appreciate everyone voting for the badge.

I present the badge to every character during every investigation. It's important that they realize Phoenix is, in fact, an attorney.

DKII
Oct 21, 2010

Part 24: Episode 2, Trial: A Glorious Meltdown



This choice can be tricky, but not so tricky that the Attorney's Badge should have that many votes. In fact, there are twice as many votes here as we've had before; you lot are rather mischievous, hmm?



The game reminds us when we first get the cell phone, to check the court record for it. However if you didn't do that, and didn't hear the recorded conversation, you might not remember why it's the perfect choice here. Checking this recorded conversation is also a way to remember for the prompts last update that the statue was empty and missing its clockwork.



Music: Telling the Truth



Hmm. That's a very cute cell phone.

Ooh hoo! You have a girlie phone!



Listen!





quote:

Incorrect evidence doesn't incur a penalty here, but we do get more smug Edgeworth.



What do you say to that?

W-what? I don't rightly understand what that's supposed to mean!

I don't rightly understand either.

Ho hoh!

(Uh oh... I think I blew it.)

Mr. Wright, please refrain from flippant presentations of evidence in the future.

S-sorry, Your Honor!

I tried to submit the wiretap just to see if that would get a reaction from anyone, but no dice. We just get brought back to the same prompt to present the evidence, though, so worst case you can just present everything we have at this point!



The crowd is excited again, though we haven't really said what's on the recording yet.



Order! Order!



Holy poo poo we actually broke Edgeworth! Take that dickhead! We're not dumb enough to accidentally text you the records, either!



*grumble* (The good detective better remember he's up for evaluation soon...)

(I gotta say, I'm starting to feel bad for the big fella.)

Let's hear the conversation.

Music: Silence





[If you could.]



[Huh? It's not working? That's lame!]

[I had to take the clockwork out, sorry.]





There are loud annoying beep effects for the start and end of the recording. Sounds almost like old dialup internet noises.

Music: Telling the Truth

Your Honor,







Luckily, when she was first introduced, Miss May said that she had checked in after lunch on the day of the murder.





Just how did you know that weapon was a clock!?

...

W-well...!



One last attempt at an excuse coming...

I saw that clock before!



Oops! I forgot! *wink*



It would, if we hadn't seen the epilogue for the previous episode!



You bet we do!

The witness claims she had "seen it before."

quote:

If we don't object there, we get a longer scene.

Oh right... well, if she had seen it before, I guess...

(Wait a second!)

Then, the court would like--

Hold on! P-please wait, Your Honor!

Y-yes...? So you do have an objection?

Um, yes, well...

Mr. Wright!

Sorry, Your Honor, it's just...

The witness claims she had "seen it before."

But we still end up at the same place!



Well then, let's see it.





We get to use the same piece of evidence twice! Twisty, but not all that difficult to figure out here. Oh hey, the description changed at some point since we last used it! Anyway, this clock is handmade, so it couldn't have been seen in a store!



quote:

We can get this one wrong without penalty as well, but who wants to let the pressure off of Edgeworth at this point?

Here is undeniable proof!

Hah!?

Please, this is a court case, not some surrealist performance art piece!

Hmm... Perhaps the defense would like to change its mind?

From there we just get asked to present the right evidence again.



You know, in this shot, his hair does look kind of spiky. Never mind, carry on.

This clock was never in any store, ever!





Only two exist in the world.

And the one that isn't here is in police custody!





Mmpf...

Oh? Excuses not on sale today?



I think we're about to see another meltdown. Are you ready?





Well, we didn't get physically assaulted, at least. What's with those eyes now?

Music: Pressing Pursuit - Cornered



I left this one as an animation to show that the facial tic is still there. Looks like Miss May has finally dropped her act! In fact, she's rather intimidating now!

That stupid clock doesn't matter, okay!?



This fictional setting is big on executions I guess. That and people who want to kill our clients via framing them for murder. Fun fact: Japan and the United States are the only two of the world's wealthiest countries that still execute its worst criminal offenders.



The crowd is once again excited by the outburst.



W-w-whoa! Let's not get ahead of ourselves.





Miss May, uh, partially recovers.

Oh! Oh? Oh hoh ho! S-silly me! *grunt*

Did I, um, like... lose it?



(S-scary...)

Miss May, let me ask.





Hmm... oh dear.



(Okay, this is it!)





Ohh this is where the wiretap comes in! She heard about it!

The witness had never held the clock in her hand!



She "heard"...?

That is correct, Your Honor.





And I can show you the proof!

Well, this is interesting.



quote:

We could also say that Miss May had held the clock, even though it doesn't really make sense...

(This is familiar territory. I'll just use the same approach as with Larry.)

Miss May held that very clock in her hands!

Mr. Wright! When was this!?

When she used it to strike the victim! When else?

(The crowd gets excited again, followed by another triple gavel strike.)

Order! Order!

Mr. Wright! What is the meaning of this!?

April May, you killed Mia Fey, I say!

And when you struck, the force of the impact made "The Thinker" ring!

That's when you heard it!

Dude, that was last case.



Music: Silence

Tsk tsk.

You truly are a work of art, Mr. Phoenix Wright.

W-what's that supposed to mean!?

It was you who just proved that "The Thinker" was empty!

Oh... (Urk! Of course it wouldn't ring!)

What's more, the witness has a rock-solid alibi.

Miss May?

Perhaps you could explain to the poor, misguided Mr. Wright?

That you were in the hotel at the time of the murder.

(S-she can't prove it! She did it!)

It would be MY pleasure!

Music: Pressing Pursuit - Cornered - Variation

N-no way!

Yes way, Mr. Lawyer.

Tee hee? Didn't the murder take place at 9:00 at night?

Gee, that's the exact time I ordered some room service from the hotel bellboy!

Incidentally, the bellboy corroborates the witness's story.

Ergo, she was not at the crime scene! Rock solid!

(More crowd excitement, followed by a single gavel strike.)

Mr. Wright! You've just made a serious accusation against a perfectly innocent woman!

No actual penalty though, other than looking stupid.

S-sorry, Your Honor. (That... didn't go so well.)

(But, if that's the case...)

(Then how did she know "The Thinker" was a clock!?)

(...)

(Wait!)

Your Honor, I figured it out!

There is one other way Miss April May could have known it was a clock!

One way alone! And I have proof!

Well... proof, you say?

Then, the court will examine your proof, Mr. Wright.

That was a long sidetrack, but we do end up in the same place eventually.



It's the wiretap! She heard it on the same phone conversation we just used to prove the statue/clock was empty!



quote:

If we're wrong...

This evidence reveals the truth of the matter!

What does it reveal, exactly?

The mad delusions of the defense, perhaps?

(Uh oh, bad reaction. Maybe that wasn't the thing...)

I'm afraid it has revealed a certain over-eagerness...

Let me ask again:

And we're brought back up to the top to try again! Still no penalty; this episode is taking it easy on us!





I found this in Miss May's room.



The crowd wonders what exactly Phoenix was doing in Miss May's room...





Miss April May?



Oooh. Oooooh!





Your Honor, this is irrelevant!



The judge is on our side this time without us even having to speak up first!

It troubles me that our witness was in possession of a wiretap.



Absolutely!

Even if that was the case, which it's not, you still have to prove one thing!



Uh, yeah? In the exact same recorded conversation we just played for you?





I love those random zoomed-in animations. Like they were transported to a higher dimension to do battle.





Here's my proof.



I guess we'll just throw the cell phone at him again. I'm a little concerned that we seem to be wrapping up with Miss May and we still have two unused pieces of evidence, though.



quote:

Of course, we could be wrong...

This!

I think...

That's not going to prove anything, Mr. Wright.

I think...

W-wait! That was just a warm up!

Hmm! Okay, once again. And I expect real proof this time!

We can once again retry without penalty here, as many times as we want!



Yes, we've seen that.



Music: Silence



[Mia! What's up? You haven't called in a while.]

[Well, actually there's something I want you to hold on to for me.]

[Again? What's it this time?]

[It's... a clock.]

[It's made to look like that statue, "The Thinker." And it tells you the time!]



You used a wiretap to listen to this conversation!





Am I wrong!?







Your Honor, this is ridiculous!





The defense demands an answer.





...

Miss May!



You... you LAWYER!



We get a series of reaction shots, followed by a silent crowd for once. Phoenix why are you sweating there?



Oh, so I'm the bad girl, is that it? Is that it!?







Well we know she didn't actually do it herself, so I guess we'll ask about the wiretap?

Music: Objection!



...



Answer the question!

Do I have to?





Miss May.

You were tapping the victim's phone!







Looks like the crowd is on our side.





Well, Miss May? Do you have an explanation for the court?



That's...not really what we asked. I was trying to dig at why she put the wiretap on in the first place! Something about what Mia was investigating set this whole thing off!

(Hah! I'd like to see her pull THAT off!)

Mr. Lawyer, I saw that evil, evil grin!



(drat... she's good!)



quote:

Since the judge kind of did it anyway, let's accuse her of murder again!

Music: Trial

Miss May!

What is it you little shrimp! Talk to me in that tone of voice will you!?

You killed her, didn't you!

(The accusation gets the crowd going again, necessitating a triple gavel strike!)

Order! There will be order!

What? How can you possibly say that!? Are you mad?

A-all I did was a little wiretapping...

Oops!

So you admit you tapped her phone!

Heh... heh... hrrah!

B-but wait!

I didn't do ANYTHING bad like murder! I'm a good girl!

Really?

Can you prove it!?

(No way can she prove it!)

You think you're so smart, Mr. Lawyer...

But I can prove it! And I will!

Music: Silence





Hmph!

Okay? So, the killing happened around 9:00 at night?



It suddenly occurs to me to wonder exactly what kind of "service" she was getting, particularly with how the bellboy reacted to our visit....

R-room service!?

Ice coffee, I believe it was?





I-ice coffee...!?





You know, the more I think about it, we haven't really gotten anywhere here. The bloody note is still in play, and Miss May's credibility may be shot but all we've proven so far is that she had a connection to the victim. We haven't really taken out her testimony about identifying Maya as the killer.



Apparently Phoenix thinks it's time to panic as well.



The crowd's all, "Hey, the smug rear end in a top hat makes a pretty good point!" And we're back to square one.







That the witness appears to have been tapping the victim's telephone.



However! That is a separate crime, with no bearing on the current case whatsoever!



(No! They're goint to let her just walk away!)



Well, does the defense have anything to say?



Music: Suspense



I'm not sure what else we can ask Miss May, but I'm also not sure what questioning the bellboy is going to accomplish. Still I guess we're better off with the unknown, maybe we'll learn something new!



There's something suspicious here, and I'm going to get to the bottom of it!







Can he do that? Why even have a defense attorney in a criminal trial?

W-why? What's your reason?



...!

However...



I'm not going to like this, am I?

Condition...?



then you will recognize that Miss April May was not the killer, thus she is innocent!



This seems like a trap, particularly since we know Miss May isn't the killer. But what other option do we really have?

That is my condition.

(What...!?)



(Otherwise Maya will be declared "guilty" on the spot!)



Might as well see this thing through, I guess.



That's the spirit.



Hmph.



Yup, trap. Here we go.

(Uh oh!)

Uh... um, wait...

quote:

Giving up isn't really an option, as you might have guessed:

(Grr! I can't accept those conditions!)

Very well. The defense will refrain from calling the bellboy as a witness.

I see. You may continue your cross-examination, Mr. Wright.

I haven't shown the dialogue you get by declining to call the bellboy the first time we're asked. That's because, from here, the dialogue is exactly the same both times we back off. Except it doesn't make sense the first time, because it references the "deal" we just got offered.

Right. On with the cross-examination.

What exactly do you have left to examine, Mr. Wright?

Miss April May has admitted to the wiretap, yes.

But that bears no relevance to the case at hand: murder!

There's no way you can prove any connection!

(Uh oh! Think! This can't be the end... but I'm out of evidence!)

Then I believe the cross-examination is over.

Mr. Edgeworth, does the prosecution have any other witnesses to call?

None, Your Honor. She's the last.

Music: Silence

(What!? B-but that means...)

(Maya's guilty...!?)

W-wait! Your Honor!

Yes, Mr. Wright?

The defense would like to call the bellboy after all!

...

Tsk tsk tsk...

As I thought!

...?

May I remind you, dear Mr. Wright. Should you question the bellboy...

and Miss April May's alibi prove to be solid...

then, by default, your client Ms. Maya Fey will be pronounced "guilty"!

Are you prepared to accept my condition?

(Edgeworth...)

(He's got me backed into a corner...)

(But I don't see any other way to take this!)

I accept!



Music: Silence

Very well!



I did not really expect to be seeing this guy again.

Nidoking
Jan 27, 2009

I fought the lava, and the lava won.
As I understand it, this case was originally developed and scripted to be the game's first case, so while it lacks the tutorial elements, it's still geared toward a first-time player making mistakes (or seeing what they can get away with). The first case was added later, likely to give Mia some introduction so the audience would care more about her, and also presumably to shift the tutorial into a shorter part of the story. I don't have a handy source to cite for that, though, particularly one that wouldn't spoil anything else about the game.

theshim
May 1, 2012

You think you can defeat ME, Ephraimcopter?!?

You couldn't even beat Assassincopter!!!

DKII posted:



Mmpf...

Oh? Excuses not on sale today?
Man, Phoenix can be savage sometimes. It's great.

DKII
Oct 21, 2010

theshim posted:

Man, Phoenix can be savage sometimes. It's great.

Yeah I was going to put in a reaction there, but thought the line stood better on its own.

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

I'm 😤 not a 🦸🏻‍♂️hero...🧜🏻



I liked the reference to Alex Jones' cack-handed lawyer you threw in there.

FoolyCharged
Oct 11, 2012

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

Please. Like a real life lawyer would accidentally send a cell phone full of incriminating evidence to the other side and then sit there silently letting their client commit perjury repeatedly knowing full well the other side had hard evidence against their lies?

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achtungnight
Oct 5, 2014
I get my fun here. Enjoy!
Watching She-Hulk on Disney plus right now, can’t help but wonder what kind of shenanigans she would get up to if facing Ace Attorney characters and vice versa.

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