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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Obama was drone striking children's concerts on purpose? The excuse that our Western military forces are just bad shots is wearing a little thin. We've been murdering children and saying "oops" for 16 years. At some point doing the exact same thing and getting the exact same results loses all plausible deniability. Obama is no different that Bush, and Trump in his turn. Surprised how naive some of you are. "We're the good guys, we'd never do that!" Almost charming.
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http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/05/22/germany-is-quietly-building-a-european-army-under-its-command/ Third times a charm.
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# ? May 24, 2017 21:58 |
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lol but seriously I posted:Would a country actually take back a 2nd generation immigrant suspected of terrorism? Some discussion on Salman Abedi (the bomber)'s family. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/may/24/bombers-father-fought-against-gaddafi-regime-with-terrorist-group quote:The father of Salman Abedi, the Manchester Arena suicide bomber, fought against the Gaddafi regime with a group that was designated a terrorist organisation by the US, according to a man who says he fought alongside him.
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# ? May 24, 2017 21:59 |
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Fog Tripper posted:Collateral damage of children being used as shields by coward terrorists, totally the same as intentionally targeting children at a concert with nail bombs. If someone drops a bomb on your house and kills your entire family while you are eating dinner, are you a coward who was hiding behind his children and using them as human shields? Nerses IV posted:See, maybe I'd agree, but the omelet we've made with all these dead kids tastes pretty drat good to me. My point exactly. The global mass murder of children - civilians generally but we rhetorically leverage the kids - persists because most people seem to like it.
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# ? May 24, 2017 22:01 |
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Jeza posted:The wonderful thing about belief systems is that people pick and choose what they wish to believe in. Much like how vast swathes of the Bible are now just ignored as metaphor or just plain ignored, the same is true in Islam. If anything, their system of religious texts is even more ambiguous and open to interpretation than Christianity, meaning people can interpret what they like to further their own goals. This is also completely wrong. First, Muslims believe the Quran is the direct, unfiltered word of god, verbatim. There is no parallel to Christianity here. Second, those 99% believe some pretty horrific things, like the death penalty for apostasy. Don't confuse their silence with peaceful intent.
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Agag posted:If someone drops a bomb on your house and kills your entire family while you are eating dinner, are you a coward who was hiding behind his children and using them as human shields? What are they eating? This is important.
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spacetoaster posted:A lot of that is just cosmetic. What actual doctrines are the same? Also, what books "overlap"? And beyond names, what characters are the same? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_in_both_the_Bible_and_the_Quran A lot of religion is cosmetic. They are both Abrahamic religions, meaning they have essentially the same God, and overall their teachings on how to live a good life and so on are very similar. I'm not invested enough in religion or Islam to run through the ins and outs, but you can do some homework if you're genuinely interested. In the most shallow vein, here are Islamic versions of the ten commandments in their suras: http://abuaminaelias.com/the-ten-commandments-in-islam/ Another tenet shared by almost all religions is some formulation of the Golden Rule, and it comes up in plenty of forms in Islam: quote:Islamic Text on the Golden Rule:
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revmoo posted:This is also completely wrong. First, Muslims believe the Quran is the direct, unfiltered word of god, verbatim. There is no parallel to Christianity here. Second, those 99% believe some pretty horrific things, like the death penalty for apostasy. Don't confuse their silence with peaceful intent. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAoXgZLRee0&t=5s
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spacetoaster posted:What are they eating? This is important. Hummus. BUT! Its Israeli hummus. revmoo posted:This is also completely wrong. First, Muslims believe the Quran is the direct, unfiltered word of god, verbatim. There is no parallel to Christianity here. Second, those 99% believe some pretty horrific things, like the death penalty for apostasy. Don't confuse their silence with peaceful intent. Gosh, I guess we just can't trust any member of this ethno-religious group under any circumstances. What do you suggest?
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# ? May 24, 2017 22:06 |
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Jeza posted:
Then don't spout bullshit that you don't even know is true. It makes you look stupider than we all know you are.
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revmoo posted:This is also completely wrong. First, Muslims believe the Quran is the direct, unfiltered word of god, verbatim. There is no parallel to Christianity here. Second, those 99% believe some pretty horrific things, like the death penalty for apostasy. Don't confuse their silence with peaceful intent. No parallel to Christianity? For almost its entire history the Bible has been treated as the word of God, and the Pope as God's vessel on Earth for Catholics. I'm not even bothered to argue religion in bad faith with some weird Christian apologist. Thankfully Christianity is now a powerless hollow shell. I wish it was the same for Islam but sadly it's not. Doesn't mean I don't stop recognising for one second that Christianity has an equally abhorrent and blood-stained past when given enough power to wield it in its own interests. spacetoaster posted:Then don't spout bullshit that you don't even know is true. It makes you look stupider than we all know you are. lmao, mad much? I can't be bothered to go into the ins and out with some internet hard guy with a MAGA avatar, not that I don't know what I'm talking about.
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# ? May 24, 2017 22:10 |
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Agag posted:Hummus. BUT! Its Israeli hummus. Hmmmmm. I see. What kind of shoes is the father wearing?
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# ? May 24, 2017 22:10 |
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Aww poo poo its Bombing two: Electric Boogaloo http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/24/asia/jakarta-indonesia-explosion/index.html
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# ? May 24, 2017 22:11 |
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Bob Wins posted:Aww poo poo its Bombing two: Electric Boogaloo ~*religion of peace*~ Nothing can be done.
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# ? May 24, 2017 22:12 |
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I want this woman to yell at me like that in bed.
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# ? May 24, 2017 22:13 |
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Jeza posted:Thankfully Christianity is now a powerless hollow shell. I wish it was the same for Islam but sadly it's not. Doesn't mean I don't stop recognising for one second that Christianity has an equally abhorrent and blood-stained past when given enough power to wield it in its own interests.
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# ? May 24, 2017 22:14 |
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"Timmy, don't forget your kevlar vest and helmet you know things get explodey during ramadan" "Oh mom!"
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revmoo posted:We aren't here to discuss Christianity's past. We are discussing the problems with Islam's present. It's quite striking that the only way you folks can try and defend this faulty belief system in the present is by comparing it with actikns by others in the past. I'm comparing it to the actions of others in the present.
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# ? May 24, 2017 22:16 |
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Fog Tripper posted:Examples you can provide of this happening? Leviticus 20:13
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Snatch Duster posted:~*religion of peace*~ What would you do?
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Snatch Duster posted:
It's true. You should go off to fight in Syria. Just shoot at everyone you meet they're pretty much all Muslim there. We will remember your bravery
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# ? May 24, 2017 22:18 |
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lol but seriously I posted:Would a country actually take back a 2nd generation immigrant suspected of terrorism? could they stop us?
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# ? May 24, 2017 22:20 |
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Fully. Erect.
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# ? May 24, 2017 22:20 |
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lol but seriously I posted:What would you do? revmoo posted:Step 1 to solving Islamic extremist violence: acknowledge that there is a problem. <--- We haven't made it to this step yet
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# ? May 24, 2017 22:20 |
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lol you weirdoes think about islam a wholeeeeeeeeeeee lot what is your Final Solution, stormfront? what should be done about us plucky musselman?
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revmoo posted:We aren't here to discuss Christianity's past. We are discussing the problems with Islam's present. It's quite striking that the only way you folks can try and defend this faulty belief system in the present is by comparing it with actions by others in the past. So referring to nearly identical situations in the past is somehow inappropriate? Why don't the posters in this thread calling for "action" and "something to be done" stand up and state clearly what they want? Just put it out there what you think is the sensible solution. Is it just to box up every Muslim and send 'em back to where they came from and bomb it into ash so we don't need to worry about this pesky extremism problem? I should never have clicked deep into a thread in GBS, this is as bad as D&D.
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# ? May 24, 2017 22:22 |
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A bunch of Globalist and Defeatist in this thread. If you all aren't aware, I believe in kicking out all white and black people from the North American continent, and then not allowing immigration to the reconquered first nations of NA. My ancestors made a mistake by not killing every pilgrim, explorer, and colonizer 500 years ago. Aztlan will rise again!
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I love any plan than insists on getting everybody to agree on something before we even learn what step two is.
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Snatch Duster posted:A bunch of Globalist and Defeatist in this thread. If you all aren't aware, I believe in kicking out all white and black people from the North American continent, and then not allowing immigration to the reconquered first nations of NA. your "nation" was ground into dust and you have nothing left but casinoes and reservations. you lost that a long time ago. its 2017 and you're the losers.
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Snatch Duster posted:My ancestors made a mistake by not killing every pilgrim, explorer, and colonizer 500 years ago. I'm glad we found some common ground
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XxXCaptainNoxXxX posted:could they stop us? What would you do if they refuse to take them?
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Piss de Bundy posted:your "nation" was ground into dust and you have nothing left but casinoes and reservations. you lost that a long time ago. its 2017 and you're the losers. Native Americans own more guns per capita than any other demographic in the US. With casino profits, we are rebuying the land that was stolen. The housing crash has done wonders for us. The indigenous population on NA is much larger than you think. There are 107 million of us. I welcome all my cousins and brothers to flood over the US border from Mexico, to help with the glorious Reconquista of Aztlan.
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# ? May 24, 2017 22:29 |
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Piss de Bundy posted:your "nation" was ground into dust and you have nothing left but casinoes and reservations. you lost that a long time ago. its 2017 and you're the losers. Not only that, but its funny he thinks he deserves Texas, the boundaries of which were created by the white men his ancestors couldn't defeat. He literally wants land stolen from Mexicans lol.
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# ? May 24, 2017 22:30 |
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lol but seriously I posted:What would you do if they refuse to take them? What Australia does with refugees.
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Snatch Duster posted:
Wait, you're claiming to now be part of the tribes that were in New England?
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Helical Nightmares posted:What Australia does with refugees. Ah, state orchestrated child abuse. Truly we Westerners together we can defeat the barbarians of this world.
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spacetoaster posted:Wait, you're claiming to now be part of the tribes that were in New England? My confederation in the PNW does include the remnants of the Iroquois federation. Its a long and strange story how they ended up over here, but they did.
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Snatch Duster posted:Native Americans own more guns per capita than any other demographic in the US. That explains the suicide rates.
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spacetoaster posted:Wait, you're claiming to now be part of the tribes that were in New England? The map cuts of New England, which is mildly amusing from an East coast-West coast perspective (but makes perfect sense historically).
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