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HenryEx posted:I think you mean "they know how to pad" You should play Mighty Number 9!
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Jan 7, 2018 18:36
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Leal posted:You should play Mighty Number 9! rude
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Jan 7, 2018 18:48
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MarquiseMindfang posted:"Eat this entire zombie dragon. Now." Bone Zone getting awkward in 5.0.
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Jan 7, 2018 18:50
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You're right, no one should have to play through Mighty No 9 So have a youtube video of the end credits instead!
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Jan 7, 2018 19:04
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I just defeated Nidhogg and talked to Hraesvelgr. I knew I felt like the latter's high and mighty attitude was sketchy.
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Jan 7, 2018 19:05
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HenryEx posted:I think you mean "they know how to pad" A separate but equally true statement.
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Jan 7, 2018 19:06
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Also, Estinien must smell AWFUL now.
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Jan 7, 2018 19:11
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Mr. Nice! posted:They'd have to reskin all lancer forks, as they right now are the fork people. See you're thinking a fork as in pitchfork which is wrong. We want a Quina style Giant one handed fork.
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Jan 7, 2018 19:12
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TFRazorsaw posted:Also, Estinien must smell AWFUL now. Well yeah, he's Elezen.
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Jan 7, 2018 19:13
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I still have no idea how they'd implement blue mage in an MMO like this. The classic style of fighting random monsters until they cast their special move on you / you steal their move with Lancet / you eat them is untenable since it's impossible to balance the same FFXIV content for "blue mage with everything learned" and also for "blue mage with nothing learned". And just learning a pre-defined list of abilities as you level up would be boring and un-blue magey. Sure there was a lot of pre-3.0 uncertainty about how red mage would work, but at least that class has always been "fancy hat guy who casts spells slightly differently from white and black mages". I still want to see dancer but who the heck knows what it'd look like in FFXIV. Chemist would be great if only because I want to bean people with thrown elixirs and their limit breaks would be hilarious.
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Jan 7, 2018 19:22
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Is the SB Miner questline an episode of "Pimp My Ride"? 'Cause it sure sounds like it.
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Jan 7, 2018 19:26
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Thundarr posted:I still have no idea how they'd implement blue mage in an MMO like this. The classic style of fighting random monsters until they cast their special move on you / you steal their move with Lancet / you eat them is untenable since it's impossible to balance the same FFXIV content for "blue mage with everything learned" and also for "blue mage with nothing learned". And just learning a pre-defined list of abilities as you level up would be boring and un-blue magey. Sure there was a lot of pre-3.0 uncertainty about how red mage would work, but at least that class has always been "fancy hat guy who casts spells slightly differently from white and black mages". It's easier to design in 14 specifically because of 14's reliance on individual quest series for job specific content. You take a quest every 5/2/whatevs to fight a monster and learn its thing.
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Jan 7, 2018 19:26
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I still have no idea how they'd implement dragoon in an MMO like this. The classic style of jumping and being gone for half the fight is untenable.
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Jan 7, 2018 19:27
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Thundarr posted:I still have no idea how they'd implement blue mage in an MMO like this. The classic style of fighting random monsters until they cast their special move on you / you steal their move with Lancet / you eat them is untenable since it's impossible to balance the same FFXIV content for "blue mage with everything learned" and also for "blue mage with nothing learned". Every class quest is seeking out and devouring a different monster. The whole job questline is a giant combination of Jackass and Man Vs Food.
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Jan 7, 2018 19:29
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MarquiseMindfang posted:Every class quest is seeking out and devouring a different monster. The whole job questline is a giant combination of Jackass and Man Vs Food. Imagine the Toriko references 
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Jan 7, 2018 19:39
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I assume Blue Mage would just have skills you see monsters using and maybe buffs/debuffs which involve being hit by an enemy attack or something like Third Eye.
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Jan 7, 2018 19:43
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Mymla posted:I still have no idea how they'd implement dragoon in an MMO like this. The classic style of jumping and being gone for half the fight is untenable. This. They would just filter it through FFXIV like they've done for everything else and it would be fine. The only job that's suffered in any way is Summoner and even that's recovered with Stormblood.
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Jan 7, 2018 19:50
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Things that have been weapon types in Final Fantasy but aren't player weapons yet in FFXIV: whips, maces, flails, hammers, 1-handed axes, boomerangs, harps, bells, dice, darts, cards, megaphones, gunblades, nunchucks, rackets, flutes, blitzballs, dolls, alchemist guns, gun mage guns, measures, crossbows, and hand-bombs. Of these, I think whips, maces, boomerangs, bells, the FF X-2 guns that made up Gun Mage and Alchemist, and gunblades are our most likely options for new weapon types to build classes around. Some of the others are very character-specific to their particular Final Fantasies, like Cait Sith's megaphones or Blitzballs and dolls from FFX. Another point is what iconic Final Fantasy jobs to add. Dancer, Blue Mage, Geomancer, Beast Master, Time Mage, Mystic Knight, Ranger and Chemist from FF5 spring to mind. Dancer typically focused on either debuffs, drains or maybe healing (XI) and the occasional damage spike. For FFXIV, DPS with ribbons as weapons, Sword Dance as a main skill. Maybe give it some additional support healing like RDM has? Blue Mages are kind of different every time they appear, so there are lots of different ways to incorporate it into XIV. They could use heavier equipment in V. Strago in VI functioned more like a "typical" mage with rods and light armor. VII gave blue magic from Materia. Quistis learned it from cards. Quina ate things. Kimarhi poked dudes and in X-2 they had the Gun Mage. I could see BLU using maces, whips, or mage guns if they went with that aspect of it. Geomancer is mentioned in the AST storyline, as I understand, but CNJ/WHM covers a lot of their flavour. I haven't played the part where they're mentioned in XIV, so I don't know how they might be incorporated. Beast Master would be a pet class. I wonder if they could make it work similar to Hunter in WoW, where you can have different pets from the wild. The pets would have to be normalized so that your animal type is cosmetic rather than a core element of what the class does. Whips would be the clear weapon here, if they don't give it to Blue Mage. Time Mage seems a bit too niche, to me, to be an FFXIV job in and of itself. Some of their core abilities are already represented in AST and in caster LBs and such. Similarly, Ranger's iconic weapon is already in use. Unless they gave them crossbows, I don't see this becoming a job. I have to wonder if the theme of Mystic Knight might not find some way to be combined with the Garlean gunblade tech. You have a hi-tech sword that can be modified in battle with cartridges or something (akin a bit to Imperials from Etrian Odyssey IV, if you've ever played that). Elemental damage isn't really a "thing" in FFXIV, so it'd be mainly cosmetic. This could work as a tank or as a DPS class. Chemist would be a healer. I think they'd give them the X-2 guns. Shoot potions to heal people. They could also just add new jobs that are original to XIV. MCH and AST, while existing in a way in other FFs like VI or Tactics, are a bit more original in their style and theme to this game.
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Mr. Nice! posted:They'd have to reskin all lancer forks, as they right now are the fork people. One-handed fork. Paired with a knife. 
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Jan 7, 2018 19:59
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Darth Walrus posted:One-handed fork. Paired with a knife. I love that the SB leatherer lv60 quest is titled, essentially, "A Heart For Dead Animals". It's so fitting and kinda mean. I love the localization in this game ninjaedit: she even asks you whether you have a heart for animals in the quest dialogue, geez, way to twist the knife
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Jan 7, 2018 20:03
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Josuke Higashikata posted:Well yeah, he's Elezen. Rude.
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Leofish posted:Things that have been weapon types in Final Fantasy but aren't player weapons yet in FFXIV: whips, maces, flails, hammers, 1-handed axes, boomerangs, harps, bells, dice, darts, cards, megaphones, gunblades, nunchucks, rackets, flutes, blitzballs, dolls, alchemist guns, gun mage guns, measures, crossbows, and hand-bombs. square make the cloud class
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I could get down with a Garlean gunblade tank class. Model it after Regula van Hydrus, make it the inverse of RDM, with 90% of the time being melee builing up a meter to jump back and shoot the guy.
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Jan 7, 2018 20:16
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Mister Olympus posted:It's easier to design in 14 specifically because of 14's reliance on individual quest series for job specific content. You take a quest every 5/2/whatevs to fight a monster and learn its thing. They've already decided that they don't want to tie skills to job quests other than capstones though, so I don't see them going back to a design they had and then abandoned.
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Jan 7, 2018 20:36
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The decision to tie a couple of crafting skills to quests in Stormblood is legitimately the most confusing thing about the game to me, even including Male Au Ra run animation and the job "Dark Knight".
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Jan 7, 2018 20:44
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Kuvo posted:I could get down with a Garlean gunblade tank class. Model it after Regula van Hydrus, make it the inverse of RDM, with 90% of the time being melee builing up a meter to jump back and shoot the guy. I made up a gunblade DPS concept with the mainly melee/some ranged idea a while back and posted it in the thread, where I rightly got called a huge nerd and got theoretically pelted with tomatoes.
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Thundarr posted:They've already decided that they don't want to tie skills to job quests other than capstones though, so I don't see them going back to a design they had and then abandoned. They decided they wanted tanks to do VIT based damage and then backtracked it. They can go back on decisions.
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Jan 7, 2018 21:04
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Phone posted:square make the cloud class dark knight is unironically the cloud class
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Jan 7, 2018 21:06
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So is the new glamour update basically just a chest and being able to turn equipment into a glam with a prism (of which will be consolidated into one kind)? Will we be able to use cross-job armor or anything like that?
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Jan 7, 2018 21:09
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Mymla posted:I still have no idea how they'd implement dragoon in an MMO like this. The classic style of jumping and being gone for half the fight is untenable. I have no clue how they'd implement black mage in an MMO like this. The classic style of having three different versions of each spell to match to the enemy's elemental weakness would result in way too much button bloat for it to be playable.
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Jan 7, 2018 21:15
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discovery of the millennium: leves ARE useful when you don't want to gently caress around with dungeons.
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Jan 7, 2018 21:42
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Jimbot posted:So is the new glamour update basically just a chest and being able to turn equipment into a glam with a prism (of which will be consolidated into one kind)? Will we be able to use cross-job armor or anything like that? Stuff will still be class specific. Basically that chest piece you wear for multiple classes can have a separate look for whichever one you are at the time.
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TFRazorsaw posted:discovery of the millennium: leves ARE useful when you don't want to gently caress around with dungeons. Except for beckon leves. Never do them They exist to troll the player by making them accidentally repeat the last thing you typed in chat instead of /beckon I know you can bind it to a key but I refuse to give it the dignity
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Jan 7, 2018 21:49
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So for various tank attacks that scale with how much HP you have. Do they only have their max potency when you have full health or do you have some wiggle room if you're slightly below max?
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Jan 7, 2018 21:53
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TFRazorsaw posted:discovery of the millennium: leves ARE useful when you don't want to gently caress around with dungeons. You can spam (Battlecraft) gathering leves like Adamantoise Tears for easy XP.
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Jan 7, 2018 22:00
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Brainamp posted:Stuff will still be class specific. Basically that chest piece you wear for multiple classes can have a separate look for whichever one you are at the time. Holy poo poo, finally.
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Jan 7, 2018 22:02
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HOOLY BOOLY posted:So for various tank attacks that scale with how much HP you have. Do they only have their max potency when you have full health or do you have some wiggle room if you're slightly below max? Only at max, but they scale linearly down to a minimum potency at around 30% iirc so if you are at 99% you're only losing like 1 potency.
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Jan 7, 2018 22:11
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Brainamp posted:Stuff will still be class specific. Basically that chest piece you wear for multiple classes can have a separate look for whichever one you are at the time. Well, that's better than nothing. I still think they need to drop this class-specific poo poo though. Maybe not for artifact gear but definitely the "of [whatever]" suffix gear. Then they'd be on the road to WoW or Diablo 3's easy-peasy glamour system. The ultimate.
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Is there a reason why queues for Dun Scaith seem to be even longer than for LotA? Been trying to get into it for the first time for days now but i always end up giving up on the queue. and doing something productive instead.
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