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RatHat posted:Wait Esau doesn’t go away even when you turn into the Lost? That’s nuts. I was thinking you could just turn into the Lost at the start of a floor and play Tainted Jacob like Tainted Lost. He's far, far worse.
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RatHat posted:Wait Esau doesn’t go away even when you turn into the Lost? That’s nuts. I was thinking you could just turn into the Lost at the start of a floor and play Tainted Jacob like Tainted Lost. Of course if you do that, he's just a worse version of the Lost. Esau can also be a powerful weapon if you use it carefully, so you might not want to get rid of him.
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i extremely do not like tainted cain
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It's easy to craft Divorce Papers using just common crap, and it isn't a bad shot of firepower and health at least in the early game.
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Jun 16, 2021 01:07
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Somebody posted some hack in here earlier. It's very easy to craft the portable slot machine and then you take the same materials into a room with the devil pool and craft a second portable slot machine and it'll give you something OP from the pool instead. I forget what.
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PostNouveau posted:Somebody posted some hack in here earlier. It's very easy to craft the portable slot machine and then you take the same materials into a room with the devil pool and craft a second portable slot machine and it'll give you something OP from the pool instead. I forget what. Here's the easy peasy method. Araxxor posted:
GuavaMoment posted:I'd highly recommend flat stone to go with Monstro's Lung using this route since it's the easiest way to fix the horrible range you end up with.
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Mr. Maggy posted:i extremely do not like tainted cain
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I am one Mother kill away from completing all the normal characters, and now that I am about to tackle the tainted characters, I'm wondering how y'all would rank the taints in regards to difficulty and/or fun?
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worst and least fun is laz, easiest is probably maggie or lilith. maggie, keeper, and judas are the most fun to me at least, samson is up there as well. eve is like simultaneously one of the easiest and most difficult. cain exists on a fifth dimensional scale where the amount of fun you’ll have is how much you enjoy doing research
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Greenplastic posted:I am one Mother kill away from completing all the normal characters, and now that I am about to tackle the tainted characters, I'm wondering how y'all would rank the taints in regards to difficulty and/or fun? Next strongest are Isaac, Judas. Maybe TEve around this level (I love TEve) T Samson is very fun but fairly standard power level. TApollyon similar power level. TEden is below average power level. Imo fun outside of hush/delirium. The hardest for sure are TLaz, TLost, and TJacob. I hate TLost but some people enjoy him, Laz is probably least fun character, TJacob is so ball crushingly hard that fun doesnt really factor into it. TCain is brokenly op and not really fun after your first run.
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I like TKeeper and TLost a lot. They're extremely hard but still a lot of fun to play with. The big downside is that every run that gets off the ground is a tragedy. You snowball quick with both characters, but only have 1-2 hits means 90% of your good runs end with "gently caress, I just lost that? I was so OP what a waste"
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I forgot TKeeper! He's a little fragile sometimes but he's broken and hilarious as well. Super fun. Probably right in the middle in terms of difficulty. I take dozens and dozens of hits during TKeeper runs, TLost is just a game I don't find fun or rewarding.
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Jun 16, 2021 17:13
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What's the strat for playing TEve? I can't wrap my head around her yet.
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Jun 16, 2021 19:00
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make friends and don't get hit. Tap fire instead of holding to stop making friends. You don't really need all that many friends but you do need a few at the start due to her god awful natural fire rage.
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Relyssa posted:What's the strat for playing TEve? I can't wrap my head around her yet. make babies and don’t get hit. it’s a pain in the rear end to get going but once you have a little army and a supply of health you can ball out of control
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Also random tear effects are extremely good, while tear charging items tend to be extremely bad.
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Thanks for the tips! I think I'll alternate between easy/fun and hard/bad characters
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Jun 16, 2021 20:22
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Tainted Jacob is like hitting yourself in the balls with a hammer. Just have birthright make it so he only damages you instead of kills you or there's no penalty for killing him. Eesh.
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I just do greed runs until I unlock Greedier, then do Greedier runs until I have completed it with each character and unlocked the items for that. There are so many characters now that doing this gets you most of the way to 999.
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Very first Tainted Maggy run, decide to do Greedier, and what's in the first treasure room? Gnawed Leaf! Let's loving GO!
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Jun 17, 2021 13:06
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Does the hug actually work if they walk into you in statue form? EDIT: apparently it does. Wild
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Jun 17, 2021 15:16
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Apparently there's a frame-perfect trick to get both items from item option rooms by picking up one of the items at the exact same time as a bomb goes off to blast you into the other item. Seems absurdly difficult and risky but hey if you can spare the health and bomb... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jts4etuQxeE
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Jun 17, 2021 16:36
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rocket jumping is back baybee
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Jun 17, 2021 16:43
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I've installed a few QoL mods (external item descriptions, boss rush wave counter) but I'm this close to installing a mod that makes the void portal always spawn because I'm losing my goddamn mind
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Mr. Maggy posted:i extremely do not like tainted cain The easiest way I've found to win as Tainted Cain is to reset until you are able to get a secret room pedestal. This will give you a bone heart you can use to craft Rock Bottom. Then craft kidney stone, which uses pretty common ingredients. The game is now broken and You Win. Anything you craft after that is a matter of personal preference, but make sure you understand how Rock Bottom works. Don't craft Soy Milk/Red Stew, if you want to craft it, until you're done increasing your damage. Don't craft Polyphemus, if you want to craft it, until you're done increasing your tear rate. There is definitely some tension between maximizing damage/tears but you can still easily get both of those stats far, far beyond what any other character would reasonably have. If you plan out what you have on you a little you can fill out the entire post-it (except Greedier) in one run by using R Keys. I also hated Tainted Cain because I was trying to play fair as him, making like Icicle Babies with BFF or some other silly poo poo. Don't, he is inherently broken as gently caress and doesn't play the same game as the other characters. I also finally beat Greedier Mode with Tainted Lost, and I had to resort to breaking the game really hard. If you want to skip much of the challenge of Greedier Mode this works with any character. I mostly just found it necessary with T Lost because Ultra Greedier is so loving hard to beat without taking a few hits. -Reset until the first shop has D-Infinity. -Wait until a floor has a battery for sale. Hopefully the items you acquire will get you this far, but this is definitely the hardest part of the break. DO NOT pick up the golden treasure room item on this floor. -Beat the floor and the bosses without picking up the coins that drop. If you accidentally pickup a few its fine but you need some critical mass of coins to get started. -Use the d20 to reroll the coins. Open any chests you see. Check cards and use any that drop pickups. Pick up any nickels or dimes. If you see a golden key take it. Try to watch out for mimic chests and troll bombs. If you're unlucky enough to get a golden troll bomb sucks for you. -Go to the shop and buy a battery (unless you rolled into one) and recharge your d20. Repeat the above step until you get a 2 of diamonds. -Take the 2 of diamonds into an item room, where it is the only pickup, and use the D1 to copy it. Recharge your battery at the shop until you have a lot of 2 of Diamonds. You now have infinite money as you can repeat this process whenever you want. -Start buying stuff in this shop. DO NOT buy the car battery but most other items are fine. Active items are great to buy because you want to get a bunch of pedestals you can reroll. You're really looking for the Spindown Die. Also Deep Pockets, because it makes things go faster. -Use the D6 to reroll the treasure room item until it is an active item. This lets you leave a D-Infinity or Spindown in there while you take the other to the shop. Now you have infinite money, rerolls and spindowns and you can get any and all items in the game. This includes items that are not normally obtainable such as C-Section and Redemption, or just rare secret room items like Greed's Gullet or Eye of Greed. If you're doing this as TLost I would recommend acquiring several copies of Birthright/Inner Child to act as makeshift hitpoints, as well as Pyromaniac so you don't randomly run into a fire or blow yourself up when your tears are so big you can't see what's going on. Lets Pickle fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Jun 17, 2021 |
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Words of advice for Tainted Jacob: 1) It's most important to know where Tainted Jacob is at any time. It's better to take red heart damage than to let him hit you. 2) Use lost form to get free devil room deals. 3) You need flight. There are some rooms that will just straight kill you in caves if you don't have it. 4) Avoid homing attacks and auto attacks. You want to have control at all times over where your shots are going. 5) If you turn into the lost, kill Tainted Jacob before continuing. There's no benefit to having him continue to hound your rear end. 6) Anima sola is an INCREDIBLY powerful weapon once Tainted Jacob is dead. Use it accordingly.
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Pigbuster posted:Apparently there's a frame-perfect trick to get both items from item option rooms by picking up one of the items at the exact same time as a bomb goes off to blast you into the other item. Seems absurdly difficult and risky but hey if you can spare the health and bomb... Time to practice this until my eyes bleed
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https://twitter.com/edmundmcmillen/status/1405590843252084736?s=20
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that rules
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Hey that's pretty cool of you, Ed
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oh hell yeah
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Had an absolutely amazing Cain run that was shaping up to finally be a Beast clear, then warped to an Error room with no exit except the hole to Womb 
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This is loving awesome
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GrandmaParty posted:Words of advice for Tainted Jacob: To attack with him, use Anima Sola. Position yourself so that you, Esau, and your target are all lined up. Then, release Anima Sola. Esau will immediately charge at you, dealing damage to any enemies in his path. Don't forget to dodge out of his way.
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I was watching my friend play a challenge and he had the most Binding of Isaac moment ever https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/845634446551810058/855275432025784330/Dingled.mov
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PIZZA.BAT posted:I was watching my friend play a challenge and he had the most Binding of Isaac moment ever lmao
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Araxxor posted:Here's the easy peasy method. Thanks, I've been avoiding tainted cain because he's a bit of a chore to play, but this let me knock out all his unlocks in a couple of runs.
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Just discovered (re-discovered?) that the Emperor card takes you to the second boss on an XL floor. Unfortunately, this was in Necropolis XL. Oops.
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They still haven't fixed the Reverse Emperor softlock if you get Mom for a boss
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Can confirm that Shard of Glass is a really good item to pick up if you know how it works and what you're doing. Probably still incredibly terrible to have it randomly thrust upon you from rerolling or what have you, though. Also, Stairway is really loving good when you're doing a Home run, provided you have enough money.
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