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PantsBandit posted:Just to clarify this post a bit further, the red chest bug apparently 100% kills your angel room chance. This obviously affects duality but also just in general I guess don't touch any red chests if you want an angel deal. 
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I would have sworn on my life that yesterday a red chest teleported me to an angel room. Maybe it dropped a Joker and I’m misremembering.
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Jul 27, 2021 21:46
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Ariong posted:I would have sworn on my life that yesterday a red chest teleported me to an angel room. Maybe it dropped a Joker and I’m misremembering. Ok so I went back and read the bug note a bit more. What it looks like is once you touch your first red chest, the game determines if an angel or devil room for the current floor will spawn. That means you can still technically get an angel room after touching a red chest, but if you touch a red chest and then go try to donate or kill the devil beggar to up your angel room chances, no luck. The game has already decided at that point.
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Jul 27, 2021 22:06
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PantsBandit posted:Ok so I went back and read the bug note a bit more. What it looks like is once you touch your first red chest, the game determines if an angel or devil room for the current floor will spawn. That means you can still technically get an angel room after touching a red chest, but if you touch a red chest and then go try to donate or kill the devil beggar to up your angel room chances, no luck. The game has already decided at that point. Oh okay. Cause I tested and still got angel rooms after touching a red chest. So basically it just decides on the spot the moment you touch a red chest and anything to influence angel or devil chances barring the ones that force a specific type of deal room to spawn will do nothing afterwards. What a bizarre bug.
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Jul 27, 2021 22:11
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I think I might have a hosed up brain because I like tainted Lazarus I just wish damage crossed over, even if it's only 1/4 of the damage or whatever. Either that or a 3-4 room flip would make him way better
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Just had the perfect T. Lost Beast run! Got Damocles, D1, tarot cloth and a "the lovers?" card, which creates an item with no downside when playing as the Lost. Duplicated the card several times with D1, and turns out Damocles+tarot cloth+ the lovers? creates like 6 items. Went ham in the shop and secret room to get mega mush and 4.5 volt for infinite mega mush in the Beast fight, schoolbag to also carry blank card+holy card, and used spindown dice to turn wavy mushroom into Psy fly for extra protection. Secret room also popped eternal d6 and r key, but they were superfluous lol I also had quad shot haemolacria+brim+continuum Seriously perfect Greenplastic fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Jul 28, 2021 |
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Jul 28, 2021 12:42
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Do you guys ever purposefully skip item rooms for planetariums? I tried it today but the planetarium items just don't seem good enough to make it worth missing items. And even if you skip several you still don't guarantee yourself a planetarium. I guess maybe the design is more to make not getting a key for an item room less of a feel-bad situation. But how frequently does that situation really happen on floor 2+ (the first floor where not opening an item room makes a difference)? PantsBandit fucked around with this message at 03:33 on Jul 29, 2021 |
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Jul 29, 2021 03:27
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Really the planetarium items are great for ascent runs since you can just get the items on the way back up. Outside of those...well if you can't access the item room for some reason (trying to hurry along for boss rush or just don't have keys), it can be nice to know that you may not be completely screwed over by it.
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Jul 29, 2021 03:41
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FlamingRok posted:Really the planetarium items are great for ascent runs since you can just get the items on the way back up. Outside of those...well if you can't access the item room for some reason (trying to hurry along for boss rush or just don't have keys), it can be nice to know that you may not be completely screwed over by it. Interesting it did not occur to me to use it in that situation so thanks.
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Jul 29, 2021 04:59
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If you get Dreamcatcher early on, you can check if the next treasure is a stinker so you can safely skip it and increase your planetarium chances... ...at least in theory. I end up forgetting I have that item like 99% of the time and skip the cutscenes out of habit.
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Jul 29, 2021 05:12
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PantsBandit posted:Do you guys ever purposefully skip item rooms for planetariums? I tried it today but the planetarium items just don't seem good enough to make it worth missing items. And even if you skip several you still don't guarantee yourself a planetarium. It's mostly meant as a consolation prize for missing an item room because you couldn't find a key. That or the dreamcatcher strat already mentioned
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Jul 29, 2021 05:25
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also good for tainted keeper since you have to pay money for the items anyway and the shops are usually straight up better
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Jul 29, 2021 12:02
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apparently the cracked crown achievement is straight up broken so hold off on going for that until there’s a confirmed fix
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Jul 29, 2021 15:37
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I don't believe the game will get any more bug fixes 
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Jul 29, 2021 18:12
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there will be at least one more patch Eventually™ enjoy psy fly being a hard-carry defensive item while you still can
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Jul 29, 2021 18:28
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If I have to guess which passives will get nuked into mediocrity, it'll be Cube Baby, Echo Chamber, Freezer Baby, Ocular Rift, Psy Fly, Rock Bottom, Salvation, The Stairway, Twisted Pair, Uranus, and Worm Friend.
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Jul 29, 2021 18:38
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I want to like T. Eve, she can be devastating when she gets a good army of clots, but she dies so easily.
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Jul 29, 2021 18:44
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I find that the way to play Tainted Eve is to leave a couple of hearts unclotted in case of emergencies, it usually means shooting by tapping instead of holding the button but it's worth it. If you find Knockout drops you transform into Tainted Kenshiro.
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Jul 29, 2021 18:57
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You can press the fire button repeatedly rather than holding it down to avoid making more clots.
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Jul 29, 2021 18:58
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watho posted:there will be at least one more patch Eventually™ Wait is psy-fly bugged or something? It's extremely strong but so are other items.
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Jul 29, 2021 19:05
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Black August posted:If I have to guess which passives will get nuked into mediocrity, it'll be Cube Baby, Echo Chamber, Freezer Baby, Ocular Rift, Psy Fly, Rock Bottom, Salvation, The Stairway, Twisted Pair, Uranus, and Worm Friend. I dont expect any nerfs to devil or secret room items tbh unless devil rooms get buffed somehow.
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PantsBandit posted:Wait is psy-fly bugged or something? It's extremely strong but so are other items. psy fly blocks literally all bullets that are about to hit you. if you have psy fly you can stand still for any bullet hell style attack
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Jul 29, 2021 19:11
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it’s considered the singularly best item in the game without any real contest
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Jul 29, 2021 19:12
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No Wave posted:Cube baby? really? What do I not know? I think it's less that Cube baby is a good item and more that freezing is an extremely powerful status effect.
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Jul 29, 2021 19:16
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I don't think freezing is as powerful as people think it is. As far as I know things freeze when they would otherwise die, it's not an instakill effect, and pushing the statues around is super fun but doesnt really get me that much closer to winning a run (outside of greed mode)
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Jul 29, 2021 19:20
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yeah freezing is good but i wouldn’t call it op in any way
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Jul 29, 2021 19:31
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The best thing about freeze is that it stops effects triggered on death, so all those monsters that spawn more enemies or shoot poo poo when you kill them get completely defanged.
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Not giving tainted lost any defensive items is cruel. Not giving me any loving holy cards whatsoever in a run to Mother is even crueller, especially when I die to Mother.
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Jul 29, 2021 19:52
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Pentaro posted:The best thing about freeze is that it stops effects triggered on death, so all those monsters that spawn more enemies or shoot poo poo when you kill them get completely defanged. That's what makes it so great, I should have said 'Freeze status gets nerfed' rather than list the ice items
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Been working on completion marks ahead of the switch Repentance launch. I've finished a couple characters, but are there any particular unlocks I should prioritize?
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You need to beat Hush three times in order to gain access to a lot of the new content, so if you haven’t done that yet, you should. You have to get every Hard Mode completion mark with the Lost to unlock one item, and Repentence adds more completion marks, so definitely do that. If you’re reliant on the D20 game break strategy to beat Greed(ier) mode then you should get those done now, because that gets nerfed in repentance. That’s all I can think of.
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Ariong posted:You need to beat Hush three times in order to gain access to a lot of the new content, so if you haven’t done that yet, you should. Oh right, thanks for reminding me about hush. I downloaded a 100% file on PC to check the expansion out and hot drat, alt path kicked my rear end several times even on normal. Game good.
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Jul 29, 2021 22:32
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watho posted:psy fly blocks literally all bullets that are about to hit you. if you have psy fly you can stand still for any bullet hell style attack Ha. I didn't realize it was 100% effective like that. Surely they must have intended it to work that way but it's still crazy.
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It's not 100%, you can still get hit if there are enough bullets to the point it can't keep up. It is extremely strong though.
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I can attest to it not entirely making up for being terrible at the game.
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I found out that shielded tears is one of the best first items you can get for Jacob & Essau. I gave it to jacob along with all defensive items while essau got all the offense stuff. Mother was a cakewalk. Now that I’ve gotten the hang of this character their not AS frustrating as they were when I first started but god drat are they aggravating. Can’t wait to fill out this post it so i can never touch them again
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Your Brain on Hugs posted:It's not 100%, you can still get hit if there are enough bullets to the point it can't keep up. It is extremely strong though. no if you stand still it literally is 100%
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Jul 30, 2021 14:45
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okay maybe not 100% but look at the examples in this. it’s absurd https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od7ozbdtTxs
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Jul 30, 2021 14:50
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watho posted:okay maybe not 100% but look at the examples in this. it’s absurd Yeah it's good as hell. I think a fair nerf would be to stop it from throwing the bullets back. Auto-block of bullets alone is plenty fun. If I had to vote for a best straight-up tear mod, it'd be Sacred Heart.
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The right way to break out of a losing streak is always complaining on the Awful Forums. Vade Retro is pretty fun, and T. Eve is bonkers with something like Parasitoid that adds per-shot effects that aren't weaker due to the clots' shooting. Now to beat my head against Greedier Mode with T. Eve.
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