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The Cheshire Cat posted:I feel like the "everybody basically has the same levy composition" issue could have been addressed by varying what unit types you get more dramatically based on terrain, which is something CK3 kind of already supports with it having a lot of terrain-specific building types, where CK2 had identical holdings no matter where they were + one unique cultural building.
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Honestly, I wouldn't say that having player input into army composition in CK2/CK3 ever worked particularly well. There was never really any interesting decision-making involved, the effects were obscure unless you read the wiki, and it mostly just served to let the player punch way above their weight against AIs.
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The only reason they ever added it was because how mad the players got when they originally had very little control over their army. The game in general would be much better if you never had anything more than influence over anything but the most personal decisions.
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KOGAHAZAN!! posted:Nah, the trade system isn't great. Probably my least favourite mechanic left in the game? It's a whole bunch of clicking- like, nightmare levels of clicking if you decide you want to do more that just get your cap bonuses. And the routes keep breaking because of wars and rebellions so you need to keep redoing everything, There's very little actual decision making in it, too- at most you might need to think about what your priorities for those cap bonuses are but that doesn't change much run to run. The click to decision ratio here is off the charts. Gaius Marius posted:The only reason they ever added it was because how mad the players got when they originally had very little control over their army. The game in general would be much better if you never had anything more than influence over anything but the most personal decisions.
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Gaius Marius posted:The only reason they ever added it was because how mad the players got when they originally had very little control over their army. The game in general would be much better if you never had anything more than influence over anything but the most personal decisions. I don't know why they didn't try and combine it with more personalized interactions. Like "Horse Archers loving slap and I have a big campaign coming up, Imma butter up this leader of nomads in my realm so I can bring his horse archers along" or something.
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Lum_ posted:so apparently some crypto coin launched using the name Paradox which led to this classic exchange It goes without saying by now, but in case anyone had any doubt, the other Paradox is an outright scam and their """triple-A""" game is largely slapped together from Unreal's defaults
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I'm the Napoleon's Leg nft
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:I'm the Napoleon's Leg nft Four more and you win the game instantly
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Kaza42 posted:Four more and you win the game instantly be warned that the robespierre counter exists, flooding your deck with so many heads that drawing napoleon's becomes tricky
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Victoria 3 covers a period of all sorts of terrible economic ideas. I'm picturing some sort of proposal to switch off of the gold standard and instead use a currency backed by rooms full of computers (i.e, women manually performing calculations, professionalized in the early 1900's) The whole thing collapses with the invention of the thermionic valve (vacuum tube transistor) with one engineer acquiring 99% of the compu-coin market.
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V for Vegas posted:A crypt coin event in CK3 would be funny. My Steward GET.STEWARD.NAME has stormed into the throne room with a manic grin on his face. He claims to have invented a new system for our currency, inspired by "wise men from the East." Instead of something real like silver or gold pieces, he has suggested our money instead be parchment with a number on it! * I should have known better than trust this lunatic with the treasury! [GET.STEWARD.NAME is fired as Steward. RULER gains trait Temperate. REALM gains Fiscally Prudent (+1% tax income) for 10 years] * So long as my face can be on the parchment too! [RULER gains trait Proud. GET.STEWARD.NAME will have permission to implement his idea...] * Parchment will go To The Heavens! [-1000 gold from treasury to purchase parchment. RULER gains trait Greedy. REALM will go long on parchment, which might pay off...]
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The Narrator posted:My Steward GET.STEWARD.NAME has stormed into the throne room with a manic grin on his face. He claims to have invented a new system for our currency, inspired by "wise men from the East." Instead of something real like silver or gold pieces, he has suggested our money instead be parchment with a number on it! You can only get this event once and every time someone else goes long everyone else who went long gets a share of the money they put in
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“You all don’t get it. You can dye up to three faces with a single syrup.” (You have this option because you have the scholar trait)
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man, paradox threads have really been dead lately, haven't they?
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The Victoria 3 thread seems decently active, the Stellaris one gets some posts a day but will likely speed up once the upcoming First Contact DLC drops.feller posted:This was basically the victoria and new games thread and then we got victoria 3 turns out the demand for Darkest Hour discourse in 2023 is a little limited ThaumPenguin fucked around with this message at 03:39 on Feb 15, 2023 |
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Popoto posted:man, paradox threads have really been dead lately, haven't they? I feel like they're in a bit of a weird lull. CK3 hasn't had new content in forever, EU4 continues to shamble despite all the creaking, V3 exists but seems to have been a Good, Not Great but Good sort of thing (I haven't played it I dunno). Nothing much to escape the regular threads.
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ThaumPenguin posted:The Victoria 3 thread seems decently active, the Stellaris one gets some posts a day but will likely speed up once the upcoming First Contact DLC drops. what about Arsenal of Democracy discourse? gradenko_2000 posted:I've spent some more time with Arsenal of Democracy over the week, and here's a trip report:
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is DH Kaiserreich cross-compatible? Probably too much to hope for, but that remains the definitive KR edition imho
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ilitarist posted:Maybe this thread can become EU4 thread for sickos who don't play Anbennar. Expelling regular EU4 players from the thread is worth the admin efficiency hit, IMHO.
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Popoto posted:man, paradox threads have really been dead lately, haven't they? They haven't made a good game since EU4
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Popoto posted:man, paradox threads have really been dead lately, haven't they? They haven't made a good game since CK2
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Popoto posted:man, paradox threads have really been dead lately, haven't they? They haven't made a good game since EU2 (FALALALA)
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GrossMurpel posted:They haven't made a good game since CK2 I don't think CK3 is worse than CK2. It's just that I already played a billion hours of CK2 and 3 is just more and more polished 2.
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It's easier CK2 with less content.
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Mantis42 posted:It's easier CK2 with less content. My biggest issue with CK3 is its insistence on being some sort of meme generator.
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GrossMurpel posted:They haven't made a good game since CK2 I’ve actually been itching to go back and play it. I wonder how it compares to current ck3. Anyone has numbers of players of both games, just as a curiosity? I know sometimes steam allows to see those numbers.
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I don't get these comparisons. CK3 is much more complex than CK2, but the functioning UI makes it easier to play and not having loads of dumb events makes it less memetic. It's still not the complex strategy game I want it to be, and it's still in early access (the game lets you play past 1300 up until 1453 but you're clearly not supposed to) but there's no criticism I can aim at it that wouldn't be much more noticeable in CK2.
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Popoto posted:I’ve actually been itching to go back and play it. I wonder how it compares to current ck3. Anyone has numbers of players of both games, just as a curiosity? I know sometimes steam allows to see those numbers. Steamcharts lets you directly compare games. CK2 still getting 3-4k concurrent players consistently kind of blows my mind. Rynoto fucked around with this message at 11:34 on Feb 15, 2023 |
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Rynoto posted:CK2 still getting 3-4k concurrent players consistently kind of blows my mind.
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Popoto posted:man, paradox threads have really been dead lately, haven't they? Development has been slow, at least for CK3. Also the last DLCs have been kinda underwhelming too, imo ilitarist posted:I don't get these comparisons. CK3 is much more complex than CK2, but the functioning UI makes it easier to play and not having loads of dumb events makes it less memetic. It's still not the complex strategy game I want it to be, and it's still in early access (the game lets you play past 1300 up until 1453 but you're clearly not supposed to) but there's no criticism I can aim at it that wouldn't be much more noticeable in CK2. The game was released more than 2 years ago. And it is easier, and not only because of the UI. MaA are terribly unbalanced and makes war trivial with just a bit of knowledge of how they work. Lifestyle perks are unbalanced too, often too OP, and specially make keeping vassals happy/scared trivial too Elias_Maluco fucked around with this message at 12:11 on Feb 15, 2023 |
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CK3 is not a hard game to play but it has nothing on CK2. It might take a longer time to realize how to powergame it, but I think it's mostly because of UI and obfuscation of the mechanics. Once CK2 clicks and you realize how to use bloodlines, societies etc to turn your characters into monsters it becomes very trivial.
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I have like 100x more hours in CK2 than I have in CK3 and still my CK2 games were a lot more challenging in every way (war, internal politics, character health, eugenics) Maybe is just that I never became a power gamer in CK2. It seems like a did in CK3, though, without trying and after a fraction of time Ive spent on CK2. Seems like the game is easier to me
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Maybe I'm wrong since it's been a while since I played CK2, but I remember Intrigue being more fun as well.
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OK, there's little point in arguing about the difficulty in a game like this, when a lot of the appeal comes from the immersion. I can see how in CK2 it's easier to get into a non-power-gaming mindset. There's no suggestion alert saying that you know, right now you could be someone in any of the societies getting cheap powerful boons, or that you have enough piety to get CB on that poorly defended kingdom.
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My hot take is that 3D character models were a mistake and completely mismatch the paradox aesthetic. I don't mind them too much but there's just something about them that makes me feel completely unexcited in a way 2D portraits didn't.ilitarist posted:and it's still in early access I cannot imagine a more damning statement for a game that's been out for 2 years.
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