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objectively bad posted:I've been blitzing L5s for 3 years now, I wrote a guide and posted it to goonfleet dot com. I haven't had a chance to test how the carrier changes will affect L5 blitzing yet. I don't have access to gf.com any more but I'd be happy to answer any questions you have on here. that clown died in his carrier because he ended up spazzing out on the beacon. when I explained to him how to warp at range he told me that wasnt possible and there was nothing he couldve have done to prevent his dumb carrier death. what Im saying is you should ask batuka for tips
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Endie posted:The phrase is "never stop posting". Call me a faithless whore but I also post on all sorts of other internet messaging boards. I know: what a traitor, eh? I'm plucking up my courage to post on a really bittervet alt history forum right now where everyone just shits on everything new ever posted with basically no exceptions. I lurk and very occasionally post there and it's not so bad, but there's a thing with alt-history where the rules of the game aren't particularly clear to newcomers because everyone is following the conventions from some 25 year old FAQ they read on soc.history.what-if. So when some newbie shows up and is like " so guys what would have happened if Historical Figure/Institution XYZ acted massively out of character at one particular crucial moment in history and changed everything " they don't understand why they're getting piled by the grognards. I hope as a starting point you've at least read http://www.philmasters.org.uk/SF/Sealion.htm and you either pretty much agree with the conclusions or understand that you won't make much progress there arguing against them.
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You could come back to bos percelus we're newbie friendly AAPsel posted:that clown died in his carrier because he ended up spazzing out on the beacon. when I explained to him how to warp at range he told me that wasnt possible and there was nothing he couldve have done to prevent his dumb carrier death. what Im saying is you should ask batuka for tips I dunno how people get stuck on beacons. I've done probably 5000 missions warping at 0 and I've never been stuck. objectively bad fucked around with this message at 13:07 on Apr 5, 2016 |
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Fix Lag posted:WITNESS ME did you just spray a can of axe body spray in your mouth?
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:It's going to be fun when CCP is implicated in the Panama Papers for being balls deep in all sorts of fraud and corruption and has to close up shop. Is HIlmar golfing buddies with the Icelandic President who is about to die in a massive fire of public outrage since his name was in those papers and a good couple of % of the whole country is protesting outside the parliament right now? And isn't CCP backed up/part owned/something else by some shady finance group with an opaque paper trail of where the money is actually coming from?
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Percelus posted:However, Pandemic Horde will kick you for loving up like that one roarqual pilot dbrb awoxed awhile back. Their idea of a 'newbie friendly' alliance is one that flips the gently caress out if you make their kill/death ratio look bad. Where did you pull any of that out from? That Rorqual was the alt of a guy whose main had already left Horde for Spaceship Samurai on their own. The character ended up leaving Horde after sure but they weren't kicked for it, especially given they still fly and FC stuff with Horde. There's a pretty short list of people who have gotten kicked and it's mostly awoxers or a creepy fucks like the guy who stalked/harassed someone at Fanfest & Vegas. Mekchu fucked around with this message at 13:10 on Apr 5, 2016 |
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Helicon One posted:I lurk and very occasionally post there and it's not so bad, but there's a thing with alt-history where the rules of the game aren't particularly clear to newcomers because everyone is following the conventions from some 25 year old FAQ they read on soc.history.what-if. So when some newbie shows up and is like " so guys what would have happened if Historical Figure/Institution XYZ acted massively out of character at one particular crucial moment in history and changed everything " they don't understand why they're getting piled by the grognards. Yeah I've been lurking for a while and know better than to do a successful Sealion. Not that I ever would have done so in any case: Hitler having a Kriegsmarine that can do that without the British reacting with their own building program is up there with "Hitler has a liberation philosophy and co-opts Ukraine, Byelorussia and the Baltic States", "let's ignore the limitations of the German economy in 1933", and other similar red flags.
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I found this post and wanted to share it because it's amazing. Are we really not truegoonz when we still can generate such hilarity as below? Guys listen to him, he used to be a goon years ago! quote:We all know you will only give everything for Dekklein and only there.
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Unfunny Poster posted:
That's not what I heard Here is a sample of their comms though if people want to know how important kill/death ratio poo poo is to Pandemic Legion. https://soundcloud.com/nan-6/xxxgrath-ragexxx-full-version
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Percelus posted:For any newcomers reading this thread and want to get an idea of what the two sides fighting this war are like, here is some perspective. Literally none of this is true except the needing a vouch part.
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Percelus posted:That's not what I heard I mean if you listen to Grath, his beef is more that these guys were consistently doing stupid poo poo, not that they lost isk.
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Once again I'm assume most of the newcomers to this thread are familiar with MMO culture, in which case you've encountered the typical recruitment process of your 'tryhard elitist circlejerk' guilds. They love poo poo like trial periods, long terrible applications, and language weeding all but the most hardened poopsockers who found themselves guildless for whatever reason. Exhibit A - https://www.pandemic-legion.com/for...bcdb8f3f760f46f
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Percelus posted:Once again I'm assume most of the newcomers to this thread are familiar with MMO culture, in which case you've encountered the typical recruitment process of your 'tryhard elitist circlejerk' guilds. They love poo poo like trial periods, long terrible applications, and language weeding all but the most hardened poopsockers who found themselves guildless for whatever reason. Why would anyone bother filling all that crap in? It's horrible.
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Is Grath PL's version of Space Dad?
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Jacada posted:I found this post and wanted to share it because it's amazing. Are we really not truegoonz when we still can generate such hilarity as below? I'm glad he's an ex goon, he sounds like a whiny bitch.
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objectively bad posted:I've been blitzing L5s for 3 years now, I wrote a guide and posted it to goonfleet dot com. I haven't had a chance to test how the carrier changes will affect L5 blitzing yet. I don't have access to gf.com any more but I'd be happy to answer any questions you have on here. Hey is this nonsciolist? I think I may have asked you about it in jabber one time. I guess it mostly makes sense to me now, I'm just a little fuzzy on the initial "where do I choose to set up shop?" constellation/faction picking part. Obviously I want a good return on ISK for my LP so I check various sites and tools to confirm that. If I want to minimize the number of carriers I need, how would I go about doing that? What I'm fuzzy on is how missions spawn in a constellation. I thought it was just "L5's can only spawn in lowsec, so pick a L5 agent that lives in a constellation that is mostly highsec with just a few lowsec systems." But then some dude came along and was like "naw there's some mystical voodoo ~geography~ element to the mission spawning" and now I'm all confused again because my Googling on this turns up nothing. I wish people would just explain themselves the first time rather than leave me hanging like the latest TWD finale.
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Siets posted:Hey is this nonsciolist? I think I may have asked you about it in jabber one time. I guess it mostly makes sense to me now, I'm just a little fuzzy on the initial "where do I choose to set up shop?" constellation/faction picking part. Confirming level Vs don't spawn in highsec as a rule, and missions will never send you out of the constellation.
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frozenpussy posted:Confirming level Vs don't spawn in highsec as a rule, and missions will never send you out of the constellation. Well then what the gently caress was that ~geography~ dude on about!? avatarinwin posted:There's more to it, like constellation geography and other things.
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Endie posted:Yeah I've been lurking for a while and know better than to do a successful Sealion. Not that I ever would have done so in any case: Hitler having a Kriegsmarine that can do that without the British reacting with their own building program is up there with "Hitler has a liberation philosophy and co-opts Ukraine, Byelorussia and the Baltic States", "let's ignore the limitations of the German economy in 1933", and other similar red flags. You should come hang out with us in the A/T milhist thread
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Endie posted:Yeah I've been lurking for a while and know better than to do a successful Sealion. Not that I ever would have done so in any case: Hitler having a Kriegsmarine that can do that without the British reacting with their own building program is up there with "Hitler has a liberation philosophy and co-opts Ukraine, Byelorussia and the Baltic States", "let's ignore the limitations of the German economy in 1933", and other similar red flags. feedmegin posted:You should come hang out with us in the A/T milhist thread Is this stuff like any of the Harry Turtledove books etc.?
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Siets posted:Hey is this nonsciolist? I think I may have asked you about it in jabber one time. I guess it mostly makes sense to me now, I'm just a little fuzzy on the initial "where do I choose to set up shop?" constellation/faction picking part. There is definitely some voodoo involved as I notice multiple agents favoring the same system for some unknown geographic reason. Missions certainly aren't limited to just one constellation, though the majority of them will fall within it. Your main selection criteria should be sec status and safety. The lower the sec status of the agent system the more lp you get and the less capable people live nearby the lower the odds of someone dropping probes on you. The only hard part of lvl 5s is local knowledge because if you go set up shop like a clueless idiot and start warping caps about people will treat you like an american tourist walking through the barrio at night. edit: you also need to make sure there are plenty of stations with good undocks in the target constalation but that falls under safety I guess you feelin fucky fucked around with this message at 14:12 on Apr 5, 2016 |
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Percelus posted:Once again I'm assume most of the newcomers to this thread are familiar with MMO culture, in which case you've encountered the typical recruitment process of your 'tryhard elitist circlejerk' guilds. They love poo poo like trial periods, long terrible applications, and language weeding all but the most hardened poopsockers who found themselves guildless for whatever reason. lmao
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i don't really think horde gives a poo poo about KB stats or else they wouldn't be throwing fleets into the meet grinder all the time.
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Unfunny Poster posted:Is this stuff like any of the Harry Turtledove books etc.? Yes (no (yes)). Much of Turtledove's stuff (disclaimer: I've only read the Worldwar series but I am aware of the themes of his other books) is what is commonly described in alt-history circles as 'Alien Space Bats' scenarios - alternate historical events occuring as a result of alien invasion, magic, time travel, etc. There's a soft divide in the genre between that extreme of "what if alien lizards invade Earth in 1942 with mid-late Cold War military capabilities?" and a more down to earth scenario of something like "what if the car that knocked over Winston Churchill in 1931 had killed him?". Alt history is pretty cool stuff to examine how fragile is the reality we live in and how easily the right butterfly flapping its wings can make the difference, but its always a good idea to look out for where the boundaries of the genre lie since it can often devolve into wild nonsensical speculation or wish-fulfillment - there was one long running timeline thread on AH.com about Enoch Powell becoming the UK Prime Minister which stopped abruptly as it became clear that it was being overtly written as an uncritical pro-Fascism /Apartheid wank fantasy. Roller Coast Guard fucked around with this message at 14:31 on Apr 5, 2016 |
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Helicon One posted:Yes (no (yes)). OK. I've only really ever read Turtledove when it came to "alt-history" kind of stuff. I tried reading 1632 but I just couldn't get into it. I'll check some of that sort of stuff out.
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Siets posted:Well then what the gently caress was that ~geography~ dude on about!? I looked again and I'm seeing old and new comments with conflicting information. A lot of "yuh huh, nuh uh." I give up
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Unfunny Poster posted:OK. I've only really ever read Turtledove when it came to "alt-history" kind of stuff. I tried reading 1632 but I just couldn't get into it. I'll check some of that sort of stuff out. The other thing with alt-history is that the idea is often just used as a hook to hang another story on. Fatherland and SS-GB take place in worlds that see a Nazi victory in WW2, but they don't really go much into the 'how' of that victory so much as just stating 'this thing happened, Nazis won, don't ask awkward questions, now here's a detective story taking place a couple of decades afterwards', so they're not usually regarded as 'proper' alt-history by people who care about such things. There's more 'hard' alt-history that focuses on the historical divergence and consequences, and often is written more in the style of a conventional history book, appearing in recent times with the rise of self-publishing and the e-book lowering the barrier of entry, which can sometimes be worth a look (and a lot of the inevitable junk as well). Roller Coast Guard fucked around with this message at 14:49 on Apr 5, 2016 |
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Unfunny Poster posted:OK. I've only really ever read Turtledove when it came to "alt-history" kind of stuff. I tried reading 1632 but I just couldn't get into it. I'll check some of that sort of stuff out. I got kinda bored of his alternate WWI series with Custer and stuff because it was just too ungrounded. 1632 I found unreadable. David Downing's "The Moscow Option" was excellent. I said as much and Amazon recommended a book called "The Lion is Humbled" so I thought "sure why not?" The subtitle turned out to be "Book One of the Thousand Year Reich". Page one was about a time traveller telling Hitler how to beat Russia with nukes, and page three was some backstory about how a near-future, our-timeline Switzerland was filled with filthy children from Hindu-African mixed marriages that the very-white hero had been laughed at for warning about. It was surprisingly hard to find out how to tell Amazon that they were pushing neo-nazi wankdreams. feedmegin posted:You should come hang out with us in the A/T milhist thread Well then I shall.
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To give everyone an idea of what the relationship is like between Pandemic Horde and Pandemic Legion, here is a snippet of their eve-o recruitment post https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=419055 "Our goal with this group is to not have it be a stepping stone for someone to simply progress into Waffles or Pandemic Legion, though Horde members could end up in either should they choose to pursue that." "It is important to note that Horde does not pay fealty to Pandemic Legion, and makes the protection of it assets its own responsibility. This partnership with PL also allows new players to be on the PL side of a massive fight when the opportunity calls." Hey guys you aren't paying tithes so you're not literal space serfs and if your poo poo gets set on fire tough poo poo, however if we need you guys to do bitchwork like entosising we'll call. Don't worry, if you tryhard enough one day you can fill out this sweet application we have and join our cool kids club
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wheres the pl idiot to defend this? I want to see the rational
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Jon Von Anchovi posted:I did it goons. I caught up to the thread. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biscuit
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Drythe and Percelus I will make sure that your concerns are noted. Also it's "rationale" as a noun.
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Unfunny Poster posted:a creepy fucks like the guy who stalked/harassed someone at Fanfest & Vegas. Got this guys eve name. We'd like to put him up for next years CSM because some dummies will think it will be funny or something.
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Drythe posted:wheres the pl idiot to defend this? I want to see the rational You mean Unfunny Poster, because that's his EVE-O thread.
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Endie posted:Drythe and Percelus I will make sure that your concerns are noted. please answer the question, evading the question by trying to correct spelling on an internet forum is sad
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What kind of meat and cheese? Do you have some kind of secret recipe?
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Drythe posted:please answer the question, evading the question by trying to correct spelling on an internet forum is sad Space court is in session.
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dragonstalking posted:Literally none of this is true except the needing a vouch part. PL is elitist/classist, PH is not. That's literally the bottom line. GSF doesn't have that separation between GoonWaffe/KarmaFleet. Why am I replying to hands down the shittiest pubbie poster itt I have no idea, bored at work I guess.
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Endie posted:Space court is in session. am i under space arrest?
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Did I forget to mention Sniggwaffe? There is a middle child to this family, they're more of a farm team for Pandemic Legion. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=266074 "What YOU can expect from Sniggwaffe: We are a PVP training corp, and the recruitment corp for Sniggerdly. There's no passive aggression here. You screw up you will be told about it in no uncertain terms. This is how you get better. The reason most people are as bad as they are is because, either no-one tells them, or they refuse to accept it. That doesn’t fly here in either way. We couldn’t care less how awesome you think you are because, when you get in here, you start at zero. In fact, from our eyes, the only thing different between most carebears and so-called "elite PvPers" is the fact that the carebears we recruit at least know how bad they are. So yeah, we will take people from all sorts of different backgrounds, tear them down to nothing, and build them up to something that may one day be worth Sniggs interest. Don't expect to get into Snigg, not everyone does, and a lot get trolled out or get their caps awoxed because they are terrible. There are only a handful of people in EVE that can get in directly, and most of them are already there. This is the only way for anyone else." Waffles are uplifted but not yet in the club, unlike a hordling they are expected to one day graduate. Yes, the people we are fighting have a farm team like they're some professional sports team. When you look at Pandemic Legion, Sniggwaffe, and Pandemic Horde as a whole, it's like a caste system or feudalism with the nobles lording over their men at arms and the lowly conscripts. Want to kill these dorks yet?
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