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FireWorksWell posted:I just wish the autoplay wouldn't single-target the immortal adds but it's not a big deal in the long run because there's like no way it can kill anyone in my party. Keep in mind they're not immortal - they share the HP with the boss. So super break damage targeting them goes to the boss.
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Clara is also the one sole damage dealer who outright wants to be paired with March 7th, because March's shields redirect aggression. When combined with her ult, it makes her far more likely to get targeted, and that's when The Magic happens. I'm almost a little tempted to roll for Topaz or even Robin, since Clara is my most built, most reliable character right now and both of them help Clara a lot. But I really want the certain someone who's coming on June 18th, I'm already most of the way through a 50/50, and I can easily save enough to get to a true guarantee... Gacha, man. 
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I got to use Clara for the first time today, after finally having her built enough to try her out (got her last patch but had to build the new characters first). Not the best build - e0s1 and stole Argenti’s relics but she helped in absolutely killing it in the last PF stage, which I had held off until now. I remember hearing that one was tricky so I was expecting some retries but got it first run with Clara, Himeko, Herta and Topaz on the first side. They netted about 34k so the second side with Kafka, BS, Acheron and Welt swept up the rest without much issue. I don’t know if her LC is “good” one year after launch, but it worked well in PF because she topped off her own health enough to stave off any deaths in the group. Looking forward to using her more, since it’s a character I wanted since launch. I have a built March too since I was using her before choosing Gepard for my 300, so I’m curious to see how that pairing can work. If I lose a 50/50 I hope it’s to her so I can get e1 (though a Bronya would be appreciated…launch account with no Bronya drops seems ridiculous at this point).
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Mulva posted:Also as you may have noticed from the Hatblazer themselves, bounce attacks on a single target count the total Toughness damage. Which is to say, someone like Welt and Sampo actually do quite a lot of Toughness damage when you get rid of the trash. Would you like to guess who can do the highest possible single instance Toughness damage? I hope there's gonna be a supportive Destruction LC one day, because Misha actually looks pretty interesting as a breaker support/debuffer/pseudo-sustain instead of a DPS. It's just that all Destruction LCs only care about personal damage. If only he had been a Nihility instead.
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May 13, 2024 09:03
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coolusername posted:When poo poo gets real there’s serious options, or when dealing with characters like Sparkle you can bluntly reject her, but the trailblazer has a pretty well developed canon personality as a weirdo raccoon who makes terrible jokes and tries to break the tension just as much they care for people and are willing to die protecting their friends. March 7th will talk about their off-screen terrible jokes regardless of how you choose to play them.
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May 13, 2024 09:11
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We're all just old grumps here. I'm sure it's funny to the young'uns
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May 13, 2024 09:34
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just cannot get 10 or under turns in MOC12. it's not even aventurine, he's a piece of piss, it's the fuckin dinosaurs
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blizzardvizard posted:We're all just old grumps here. I'm sure it's funny to the young'uns The main problem is that Mihoyo is staffed with millenial weeaboos who basically developed an entire franchise off of millenial anime references like how Honkai Impact 3rd is named after Third Impact in Evangelion and the story follows the broad strokes of that anime. Most of the humourous references are millenial too, like Stelle getting Yamcha'd or doing the Gainax cross arm pose in the joke trailer. Then you get lines like "I flexed on him too hard with my peak swag. Guess I messed around and found out, huh..." or "But he's such a gentleman. If evil, why so nice?" which are just drawing upon a different generation of humour. So like, the main thrust of the game is for an older generation and then the joke responses are memes from like 3 months ago.
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May 13, 2024 10:07
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More importantly, they never force only the joke answers. You want to play it more straight, you can. They've definitely leaned into it a bit, but as long as they don't force it down your throat, it's fine. Let them have their fun, game development loving sucks as a job.
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Eej posted:The main problem is that Mihoyo is staffed with millenial weeaboos who basically developed an entire franchise off of millenial anime references like how Honkai Impact 3rd is named after Third Impact in Evangelion and the story follows the broad strokes of that anime. Most of the humourous references are millenial too, like Stelle getting Yamcha'd or doing the Gainax cross arm pose in the joke trailer. Then you get lines like "I flexed on him too hard with my peak swag. Guess I messed around and found out, huh..." or "But he's such a gentleman. If evil, why so nice?" which are just drawing upon a different generation of humour. So like, the main thrust of the game is for an older generation and then the joke responses are memes from like 3 months ago. Mulva posted:More importantly, they never force only the joke answers. You want to play it more straight, you can. They've definitely leaned into it a bit, but as long as they don't force it down your throat, it's fine. Let them have their fun, game development loving sucks as a job.
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May 13, 2024 10:39
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like im not asking for the most serious story ever its just like, have a little dignity, come on.
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May 13, 2024 10:39
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things like that are generally better in moderation, otherwise you get matt hazzard
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May 13, 2024 10:45
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like i liked the joke after black swan asks your opinion where you can say 'im gonna say 'too easy' on the survey again.' thats a funny fourth wall break.
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May 13, 2024 10:49
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yeah that was good, also JY calling you the galactic baseballer
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May 13, 2024 10:57
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The galactic baseballer ones are totally fine, and I don't mind the previous style of jokey answers, the ones in this patch were fine too, it just felt like they'd turned the dial a little further than prior in a notable way.
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May 13, 2024 11:17
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kirbysuperstar posted:just get 10 or under turns in MOC12. it's not even aventurine, he's a piece of piss, it's the fuckin dinosaurs What team are you trying? I found the dinosaurs to be relatively simple if all 4 of your team attack every turn, and they all hit weakness.
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Endorph posted:i mean theres a difference between a pose and a line of dialog. like i dont want stelle to say 'IMA FIRIN MAH LASER' either. and again, if they did the yamcha pose 3 times in one patch, id also complain about that. I'll laugh if I monkey paw it into endless haz cheezburger replies instead
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May 13, 2024 11:33
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I think there's also a difference between something like the "nah, I'd win" line which divorced from its meme context just seems like a haughty line, where the other examples are painfully obvious they are some twitter meme from 2024.
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May 13, 2024 12:37
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Ibram Gaunt posted:I think there's also a difference between something like the "nah, I'd win" line which divorced from its meme context just seems like a haughty line, where the other examples are painfully obvious they are some twitter meme from 2024. no cap Bad Video Games posted:What team are you trying? I found the dinosaurs to be relatively simple if all 4 of your team attack every turn, and they all hit weakness. tried a few, I think the closest I got was with HH/Kafka/BS/Asta but I was one or two turns off still
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kirbysuperstar posted:no cap I could only manage the first half reliably with Ratio, Topaz, SW, Luocha/Gallager. I did manage it with Kafka once, but that relied too much on rng. Maybe drop Huo Huo for Luocha or Lynx if you have either? Hitting weakness is the most important thing for that dinosaur.
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All this chat is making me very sure that my plans are to completely skip this patch banners, and then get Firefly, Ruan Mei, and then see what the whole Jade fuss is about. Acheron/Aventurine/Pela/SW has been very solid autoing the new weekly boss, too, sometimes after two times I have to go heal so I don't die, but still, not bad.
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Super break thoughts: I would like 3 more xuyei eidolons for free, please and thank you.
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Bad Video Games posted:I could only manage the first half reliably with Ratio, Topaz, SW, Luocha/Gallager. I did manage it with Kafka once, but that relied too much on rng. Yeah I don't have Lukeocha uhhh I think Lynx is unbuilt still, maybe like lv70 with bad traces Ratio is one of those characters where I see other people use them and get big numbies and I'm like "yeah that's a nice dr ratio...why can't mine be like that"
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kirbysuperstar posted:Yeah I don't have Lukeocha uhhh I think Lynx is unbuilt still, maybe like lv70 with bad traces Ratio lives and dies on his supporters. Mine has s1 Topaz and Silver Wolf, and sometimes s1 Aventurine. My Ratio also has 100% crit and 200% crit damage after his second turn. That probably helps. Bad Video Games fucked around with this message at 13:33 on May 13, 2024 |
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Ibram Gaunt posted:I think there's also a difference between something like the "nah, I'd win" line which divorced from its meme context just seems like a haughty line, where the other examples are painfully obvious they are some twitter meme from 2024.
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the original cn has jokes/memes/references but the eng tl definitely added some
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From what I've heard the original script has more memes if anything. It's hardly the TLs taking artistic liberty.
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Zeron posted:From what I've heard the original script has more memes if anything. It's hardly the TLs taking artistic liberty.
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The goofy options really stood out in the scorch sand section because a few of those times it was ONLY goofy/meme options. Which felt pretty different from any other dialogue option, especially in the main quest. Like I get it was a lighthearted section but I didn’t particularly like any of these! 
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El Burbo posted:Like I get it was a lighthearted section but I didn’t particularly like any of these! Lol that was the exact moment where I thought "okay maybe this is a bit much"
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yea that section was like insufferable lmao. im actually gonna mention it in my response survey for this patch because good lord
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My personal opinion is like, even if the insane amount of memes is faithful to the CN script I think it's still bad. I don't think it's exclusively a localizer thing or whatever. Would be curious to see some side by sides though.
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Today is the only time I'm glad Echoes of War gives Musketeer relics. Got the ideal chest piece I needed for Robin (Atk w/Spd) which upgraded twice on Spd and pushed her to 124 Spd total. Saved me who knows how much energy in having to farm for a Spd piece for her. Current Robin (2 Musketeer 2 Prisoner 2 Vonwacq): 4280 HP 4239 Atk 1094 Def 124 Spd 124.4% ERR Totally content with this build.
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Yeah Scorchsands is the one that made me think on this, in context I find it okay. It's a light hearted "reality tv" segment and I have some other thoughts on why it ends up having three funny dialogue option moments (related to the story as a whole happening at the time). Notably once you get out of Scorchsands it returns mostly to normal dialogue options.
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Not So Fast posted:Keep in mind they're not immortal - they share the HP with the boss. So super break damage targeting them goes to the boss. Thanks for this, by the way
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FireWorksWell posted:Lol that was the exact moment where I thought "okay maybe this is a bit much" I find it funny because if you were to remove the context of "nah, I'd win" being a big meme, that actually feels like the "serious" answer to the question (since they're asking if you have any words before getting started, IIRC).
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kirbysuperstar posted:Yeah I don't have Lukeocha uhhh I think Lynx is unbuilt still, maybe like lv70 with bad traces Also, who do you have built with Lightning/Quantum/Imaginary elements? Sometimes, you just have to think completely outside the box. I mean, one time I had to use Kafka as a sp positive support for Quinque. It was the only way I could force Quantum weakness on the second elite and break the Arumaton in the first cycle before it entered sanction mode. Sometimes unconventional poo poo just works.
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Fell barely short of the timer on MoC12. On the very last cycle I forgot to reactivate the Hatblazer ult before acting. I don't know if her one single action would have added enough super break to finish her, but it still hurts.
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