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Ghost of Reagan Past
Oct 7, 2003

rock and roll fun
Glad to see that they haven't updated their understanding of culture since 1988. Also that album is a seminal work of art :colbert:

Ghost of Reagan Past fucked around with this message at 02:25 on Jan 22, 2013

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ProperGanderPusher
Jan 13, 2012





That's what the kids are listening to nowadays, right? Right alongside having actual physical volumes of encyclopedias? :corsair:

Dr Christmas
Apr 24, 2010

Berninating the one percent,
Berninating the Wall St.
Berninating all the people
In their high rise penthouses!
🔥😱🔥🔫👴🏻
Wasn't NWA also some pro-wrestling thing?

And aren't the people who are complaining about a culture of violence the same people who use "disobeyed orders so,he could torture a man who was not, in fact, a terrorist" as a qualification.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

Dr Christmas posted:

Wasn't NWA also some pro-wrestling thing?

And aren't the people who are complaining about a culture of violence the same people who use "disobeyed orders so,he could torture a man who was not, in fact, a terrorist" as a qualification.

Ha ha ha ha. There is a NWA but that is something that not a lot of people know about, but they are talking about this band. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N.W.A

Spacedad
Sep 11, 2001

We go play orbital catch around the curvature of the earth, son.

Kiwi Bigtree posted:

Is that supposed to be a vulva on that woman's face or do I need a Freudian shrink badly?

It's a parody of an artist named "Branco" who draws people in these frowny-faced protruding bottom-toothed sourpuss expressions all the time.

cymbalrush
Jul 12, 2008

Dr Christmas posted:

Wasn't NWA also some pro-wrestling thing?
:catstare:

quote:

And aren't the people who are complaining about a culture of violence the same people who use "disobeyed orders so,he could torture a man who was not, in fact, a terrorist" as a qualification.
Of course not! Alan West is a hero!

edit: Beaten like a "terrorist"

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:

Not to be too facetious, but there is a game that is almost literally just that: Payday: The Heist
Habermann did a VLP of two of the maps.

Art aside, I can't help but get a LDS vibe from it.
"Do more than hug your children.
"Isn't it about... time?"

As a socialist, I hate to use the personal responsibility defense, but kids don't have disposable income unless a parent gives it to them.
What loving parent gives their kids cash and doesn't ask/monitor what they're going to spend it on?

Mister Facetious fucked around with this message at 08:03 on Jan 22, 2013

Political Whores
Feb 13, 2012

Mister Macys posted:

Not to be too facetious, but there is a game that is almost literally just that: Payday: The Heist
Habermann did a VLP of two of the maps.

Art aside, I can't help but get a LDS vibe from it.
"Do more than hug your children.
"Isn't it about... time?"

As a socialist, I hate to use the personal responsibility defense, but kids don't have disposable income unless a parent gives it to them.
What loving parent gives their kids cash and doesn't ask/monitor what they're going to spend it on?

Video games are just a scapegoat, though. Conservatives will do anything to keep from admitting that young white males might ever be bad people, always searching for a reason that otherwise "good kids" just suddenly snapped. Admitting that maybe you can't really profile who's going to be the violent maniac, and that gun control is necessary to keep guns out of the hands of the hidden spree killers among us, is too much to handle.

Pope Hilarius II
Nov 10, 2008

Cordyceps Headache posted:

Video games are just a scapegoat, though. Conservatives will do anything to keep from admitting that young white males might ever be bad people, always searching for a reason that otherwise "good kids" just suddenly snapped. Admitting that maybe you can't really profile who's going to be the violent maniac, and that gun control is necessary to keep guns out of the hands of the hidden spree killers among us, is too much to handle.

Indeed, also known as the 'No True White Man' argument.

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:

Cordyceps Headache posted:

Video games are just a scapegoat, though. Conservatives will do anything to keep from admitting that young white males might ever be bad people, always searching for a reason that otherwise "good kids" just suddenly snapped.

Yeah, I know that part, but what parent buys things for their kids, or gives them money without knowing what's being purchased?
In general, I mean.
Not just games, everything: music, stupid t-shirts, junk food, toys, gifts for relatives... Parents easily have power to control that. It's their bank card after all.

I dunno, I just really want to grab Ramirez by the scruff of his neck, give him the ol' skunk-eye :raise:, and say, "This kid has all this :airquote: violent media eh? Well, who paid for it, you stupid gently caress! The person hugging him! For a guy who's every other cartoon is about debt, you sure have a limited loving grasp of where adolescent kids get cash!" :rant:

Is this reaction normal when viewing his comics? :ohdear:

Mister Facetious fucked around with this message at 09:25 on Jan 22, 2013

Kieselguhr Kid
May 16, 2010

WHY USE ONE WORD WHEN SIX FUCKING PARAGRAPHS WILL DO?

(If this post doesn't passive-aggressively lash out at one of the women in Auspol please send the police to do a welfare check.)
I'd be more inclined to listen to fingerpointing at a culture of violence and violent media if people demonstrated any kind of knowledge of what forms that actually took. In real life, the kid would probably being playing Call of Duty or something -- exactly the kind of media that indulges right-wing fantasies.

Mister Macys posted:

Is this reaction normal when viewing his comics? :ohdear:

Yes, the normal reaction to Ramirez comics is wanting to seize him by the throat.

Radio Nowhere
Jan 8, 2010

Kieselguhr Kid posted:

Yes, the normal reaction to Ramirez comics is wanting to seize him by the throat.

When libs get emotional that means conservatives won :smug:

Rip Testes
Jan 29, 2004

I never forget a face, but in your case I'll be glad to make an exception.
Growing up in Georgia with a conservative family meant being exposed to Boortz. I eventually became a fan (ugh) and had the "good" fortune of calling his program and being berated by him on air. Looking bad that was probably the seed for leaving the conservative radio world and its accompanying mindset. Now that Obama's second term has kicked off, it's a little hard to believe that Boortz has just sailed into the sunset with his "Happy Ending" sendoff at the several thousand capacity Fox Theater in Atlanta. Thumbing through the photos of the event I saw what I expected, a bunch of old rich guys (Hannity, Cain, various other conservative personalities - Rush phoned in I think). What was most fascinating to me, but not shocking, was the monochrome crowd in attendance. A sea of obedient white dots.

Rip Testes fucked around with this message at 01:34 on Jan 23, 2013

Political Whores
Feb 13, 2012

Mister Macys posted:

Yeah, I know that part, but what parent buys things for their kids, or gives them money without knowing what's being purchased?
In general, I mean.
Not just games, everything: music, stupid t-shirts, junk food, toys, gifts for relatives... Parents easily have power to control that. It's their bank card after all.

I dunno, I just really want to grab Ramirez by the scruff of his neck, give him the ol' skunk-eye :raise:, and say, "This kid has all this :airquote: violent media eh? Well, who paid for it, you stupid gently caress! The person hugging him! For a guy who's every other cartoon is about debt, you sure have a limited loving grasp of where adolescent kids get cash!" :rant:

Is this reaction normal when viewing his comics? :ohdear:

Are you really expecting American parents to pay attention to what media their 10-year-olds consume? They're too busy screaming obscenities about how Obama is sending them to the poor house with his tiny tax increase on their 650,000$ family income!

Political Whores fucked around with this message at 16:38 on Jan 22, 2013

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

Cordyceps Headache posted:

Are you really expecting American parents to pay attention to what media their 10-year-olds consume? They're too busy screaming obscenities about how Obama is sending them to the poor house with his tiny increase on their 650,000$ family income!

Also how can Obama have time to care about the economy when he is busy doing this?

CrowdControl
Aug 2, 2011

Uhh Tommy, I think I'm just gonna sleep at my house tonight...

Good Citizen posted:

We actually have one of those already


Did this guy never play cops and robbers as a kid? Did he never grab sticks and sword fight as a kid? I killed plenty of pretend cops before I ever did so in a video game. And just a little before my time I know kids roleplayed the massacre of the Indians by "cowboys." Violence in children's games is nothing new, but now that pretend has gone high tech its suddenly completely different from what they did and is the cause of all of society's ills.

CopywrightMMXI
Jun 1, 2011

One time a guy stole some downhill skis out of my jeep and I was so mad I punched a mailbox. I'm against crime, and I'm not ashamed to admit it.
The boy's bedsheets are an American flag. This is Ramirez' way of equating America with violent video games, and 1980s rap. Ramirez is clearly anti-American, and letters should be sent to any paper that published this cartoon condemning his blame-America first attitude.

Spacedad
Sep 11, 2001

We go play orbital catch around the curvature of the earth, son.

Cordyceps Headache posted:

Video games are just a scapegoat, though. Conservatives will do anything to keep from admitting that young white males might ever be bad people, always searching for a reason that otherwise "good kids" just suddenly snapped. Admitting that maybe you can't really profile who's going to be the violent maniac, and that gun control is necessary to keep guns out of the hands of the hidden spree killers among us, is too much to handle.

They're also going to be forced to admit that the proportionate majority of violent AND sexual crime both per capita and as a sum total is overwhelmingly committed by whites. Yet somehow black people and other minorities get stereotyped as the crime-prone ones. The privilege of the white majority is you can sweep crimes committed by your group under the carpet (and also thusly fail to address them) while everyone else gets your microscopic paranoid over-scrutiny, resulting in jails disproportionately overcrowded with minorities.

Spacedad fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Jan 22, 2013

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
The other thing about the video game poo poo is that conservatives (and many liberals) already went tooth and nail over this stupid issue to slap ratings on movies, music and games anyway. Like others have pointed out, there's already a big old "M", "NC-17" or "XXX" label on pretty much everything telling any parent who takes 5 minutes out of their day to learn about it that some of these things Are Not for Children.

Just card kids/parents buying games and movies that children shouldn't be playing or watching and the problem's already solved for the most part. Just treat these things like liquor and cigarettes.

On the one hand, you've got them crying about freedom, personal responsibility and parental involvement, and on the other you've got them seriously arguing that their children have more of a constitutional right to an AK-47 than they do a copy of GTA4.

Unzip and Attack
Mar 3, 2008

USPOL May

Spacedad posted:

They're also going to be forced to admit that the proportionate majority of violent AND sexual crime both per capita and as a sum total is overwhelmingly committed by whites.

Do you have a good, concise source for this? I'd love to have that link on hand.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

Unzip and Attack posted:

Do you have a good, concise source for this? I'd love to have that link on hand.

Seconding this because cursory research on my part says no.

eggsovereasy
May 6, 2011

Spacedad posted:

They're also going to be forced to admit that the proportionate majority of violent AND sexual crime both per capita and as a sum total is overwhelmingly committed by whites. Yet somehow black people and other minorities get stereotyped as the crime-prone ones. The privilege of the white majority is you can sweep crimes committed by your group under the carpet (and also thusly fail to address them) while everyone else gets your microscopic paranoid over-scrutiny, resulting in jails disproportionately overcrowded with minorities.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/table-43/10tbl43a.xls

Black offenders are disproportionally large segment of offenders for every crime listed except DUI and "liquor laws".

I think crime demographics by income level would more telling though.

eviltastic
Feb 8, 2004

Fan of Britches

eggsovereasy posted:

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/table-43/10tbl43a.xls

Black offenders are disproportionally large segment of offenders for every crime listed except DUI and "liquor laws".

Doesn't necessarily disprove his claim, since an arrest doesn't establish guilt. But I'd be shocked if there weren't also a racial bias on odds of conviction after arrest, harshness of sentencing, and so on.

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

Rip Testes posted:

Growing up in Georgia with a conservative family meant being exposed to Boortz. I eventually became a fan (ugh) and had the "good" fortune of calling his program and being berated by him on air. Looking bad that was probably the seed for leaving the conservative radio world and its accompanying mindset. Now that Obama's second term has kicked off, it's a little hard to believe that Boortz has just sailed into the sunset with his "Happy Ending" sendoff at the several thousand capacity Fox Theater in Atlanta. Thumbing through the photos of the event I saw what I expected, a bunch of old rich guys (Hannity, Cain, various other conservative personalities - Rush phoned in I think). What was most fascinating to me, but not shocking, was the monochrome crowded in attendance. A sea of obedient white dots.



Haven't seen that many sad ofays since Friends ended.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

watt par posted:

Haven't seen that many sad ofays since Friends M*A*S*H* ended.


Wrong decade, regardless of what "ofays" are.

Warcabbit
Apr 26, 2008

Wedge Regret

BiggerBoat posted:

Wrong decade, regardless of what "ofays" are.

Honkey, 1920s slang, possibly earlier.

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN
Jun 26, 2009



BiggerBoat posted:

Wrong decade, regardless of what "ofays" are.

MASH owns and is antiwar as gently caress. Hawkeye please stop sexually harassing the nurses. :ohdear:

mr. mephistopheles
Dec 2, 2009

Rip Testes posted:

Growing up in Georgia with a conservative family meant being exposed to Boortz. I eventually became a fan (ugh) and had the "good" fortune of calling his program and being berated by him on air. Looking bad that was probably the seed for leaving the conservative radio world and its accompanying mindset. Now that Obama's second term has kicked off, it's a little hard to believe that Boortz has just sailed into the sunset with his "Happy Ending" sendoff at the several thousand capacity Fox Theater in Atlanta. Thumbing through the photos of the event I saw what I expected, a bunch of old rich guys (Hannity, Cain, various other conservative personalities - Rush phoned in I think). What was most fascinating to me, but not shocking, was the monochrome crowd in attendance. A sea of obedient white dots.



I'd be interested to hear what he berated you about (since he does it to people all the time and it's always so condescending and terrible) if you don't mind sharing.

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc
Hillary is supposed to testify at 9 ET.

The final Benghazi showdown will begin soon.

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I'm always suspicious when Drudge uses a complimentary picture of Hillary, he's probably up to something. Either that or it's intended to show her as defiant in the face of "intense Congressional questioning".

Sir Tonk fucked around with this message at 16:21 on Jan 23, 2013

Ghost of Reagan Past
Oct 7, 2003

rock and roll fun

Sir Tonk posted:

Hillary is supposed to testify at 9 ET.

The final Benghazi showdown will begin soon.
And it'll be as anticlimactic as we all expected,

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
In a shocking turn of events, Bill O'Reilly predicted that the president will have an unproductive second term unless if he has "a radical change in [his] thinking".

Let's check out Billy's first term predictions:

quote:

Page 24: “Along with national health care (which illegal aliens will receive, you watch), the immigration issue could wind up badly damaging Mr. Obama’s political future.”

Page 24: “In addition to having their ideology and hypothetical wish lists tested, all Presidents have to contend with the problem-solving factor. And it is here that Barack Obama took a terrible beating in the spring of 2010 — a hammering that might limit him to one term in office.”

Page 27: Quoting Peggy Noonan in the Wall Street Journal: “The disaster in the Gulf may well spell the political end of the President and his administration … It’s not good to have a President in this position — weakened, polarizing and lacking broad public support — less than halfway through his term.”

Page 32: “As we all know, life is a series of ups and downs, and shortly after winning the Nobel Peace Prize, President Obama entered a stunning downward cycle that damaged his administration perhaps beyond repair.”

Page 48: “Will he change, or will we come to accept his style? One or the other has to happen or he’ll begin working on his memoirs in 2012.”

Page 52: “No Drama Obama. That image won’t work in the long run. The President has to step up his urgency level if he wants to be two-termer Obama.”

Page 53: “Al-Qaeda civilian trials. No question about it — POTUS was a major Pinhead for allowing this atrocity to take place. Nothing good will come of it, just wait and see. When the underwear guy was taken off the plane on Christmas and sent to a federal prison to see his lawyer, you could hear the gnashing of teeth all the way to Waikiki. Such coddling of terrorists could very well be the undoing of Barack Obama.”

Page 59: “[W]inning the ObamaCare battle is not a full victory. The President has to hope he hasn’t lost the war.”

Page 89: “It is true…that there comes a time when an overall assessment has to be made of a leader. That day of reckoning may spell very bad news for Barack Obama. Because so many of his policies have been Far Left leaning, he is close to the point of no return unless the economy begins to soar.”

Page 91: “If the President does not want to be infected by the Pinhead contagion that is now rampant in Washington, he must begin to take a few non-Far Left positions on vital issues. If he doesn’t, the strong current of voter disenchantment will eventually send him floating off into the sunset. Just ask Jimmy Carter.”

Page 97: “So the handwriting was incredibly clear one year into President Obama’s term: THINGS WERE NOT GOING WELL!”

Page 149: “It is almost eerie that today we may be experiencing a giant flashback to the Carter era. President Obama’s job approval rating is descending because of the economy, the oil spill, and overseas chaos, some of it generated by Iran. Will Obama be a Carter redux?”


If only Obama was as awesome as Carter. :smith:

Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2013/01/21/an-obama-second-term-defies-oreilly-book/

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc
http://politicker.com/2013/01/country-music-star-takes-twitter-shots-at-cuomo/

This just in, irrelevant Tennessean complains about NY governor. Also, 55 million zygotes.


Ghost of Reagan Past posted:

And it'll be as anticlimactic as we all expected,

Well sure, but it'll lead to a nice chorus of complaining on AM.

And at least I won't have to hear them complain about her avoiding testifying anymore. They can complain about her hiding the facts instead.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Ghost of Reagan Past posted:

And it'll be as anticlimactic as we all expected,

I admit I am curious how exactly the dialogue will change so that they can still pretend that Benghazi is the biggest scandal ever.

Dirk Pitt
Sep 14, 2007

haha yes, this feels good

Toilet Rascal
Rush is frothing at the mouth over Hillary Clinton. Apparently she was promised the presidency because she stuck it out with Bill in the 90s. But then the party snubbed her for the young black guy.

And this 15 minute rant is finally wrapped up with, her campaign debt was paid off last week therefore she testified today.

Now the Democratic Party circled the wagons, cleaned her slate for 2016. She is finally getting paid back for moving to Arkansas with Bill. But only of Obama decides to abdicate, and then he points to the Queen of England making Prince Charles wait 85 years to be king.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



BiggerBoat posted:

The other thing about the video game poo poo is that conservatives (and many liberals) already went tooth and nail over this stupid issue to slap ratings on movies, music and games anyway. Like others have pointed out, there's already a big old "M", "NC-17" or "XXX" label on pretty much everything telling any parent who takes 5 minutes out of their day to learn about it that some of these things Are Not for Children.

Just card kids/parents buying games and movies that children shouldn't be playing or watching and the problem's already solved for the most part. Just treat these things like liquor and cigarettes.
SCOTUS already ruled to strike down a law that banned minors from buying certain video games. They considered it a violation of the 1st Amendment to bar underage people from purchasing the games. The proposed regulation that would make the ESRB ratings mandatory would almost certainly be struck down by the Court.

LASER BEAM DREAM
Nov 3, 2005

Oh, what? So now I suppose you're just going to sit there and pout?

Bill O'reily posted:

Page 53: “Al-Qaeda civilian trials. No question about it — POTUS was a major Pinhead for allowing this atrocity to take place. Nothing good will come of it, just wait and see. When the underwear guy was taken off the plane on Christmas and sent to a federal prison to see his lawyer, you could hear the gnashing of teeth all the way to Waikiki. Such coddling of terrorists could very well be the undoing of Barack Obama.”

I didn't realize that our criminal justice system "coddled" anyone. Especially brown people accused of terrorism. God forbid they get something approaching a fair trial.

Ghost of Reagan Past
Oct 7, 2003

rock and roll fun

Radish posted:

I admit I am curious how exactly the dialogue will change so that they can still pretend that Benghazi is the biggest scandal ever.
They'll keep chattering about it, but as before the election, nobody but the true believers will give a gently caress.

Which is reasonable, because as tragic as it was, there really isn't any case to be made for it being a scandal. But since Obama is involved it must be nefarious!

ufarn
May 30, 2009
Videogame censorship is as dead as a door nail. All that is left for politicians to do is to talk about "the tone" and means of creating financial incentives to conform to whatever their preferred content is, but SCOTUS voted 7-2 that censoring or banning videogames is seriously stupid.

Much as I like many things about Clinton and Spitzer, they were seriously dense on this subject.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Don't forget everyone's favorite, Senator Droopy Dog. He hammered on vidya games for at least two decades. Even more so after Columbine.

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Spacedad
Sep 11, 2001

We go play orbital catch around the curvature of the earth, son.
Oh for fucks sake:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2x8fkDQBlxE

Fox News guy claiming 'lie of the century' as 'true.' Bright.

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