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Fun thing about D&D gods is that you can use whichever ones you actually like while ignoring the rest and making up your own, and it's pretty accurate to how real-world polytheism generally works. (Apparently it confuses western Christians a bit that people in Asia will visit a Christian church on certain occasions, then a Hindu temple or Shinto shrine)
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Fun thing about D&D gods is that you can use whichever ones you actually like while ignoring the rest and making up your own, and it's pretty accurate to how real-world polytheism generally works. (Apparently it confuses western Christians a bit that people in Asia will visit a Christian church on certain occasions, then a Hindu temple or Shinto shrine) Counterpoint: Dragonlance Gods are horrible people, and are all in cahoots. Even the good ones and the evil ones.
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Bedlamdan posted:Counterpoint: Dragonlance Gods are horrible people, and are all in cahoots. Even the good ones and the evil ones. Just like the real world.
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Martin Snazz posted:Yeah, seriously. Unlike Onyx Path, it would appear that they can deliver a product on a decent timetable. Ah, yes, like... ... ... wait, what have they delivered, again, outside of a dodgy pair of visual novels and a licensed slot machine?
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Fun thing about D&D gods is that you can use whichever ones you actually like while ignoring the rest and making up your own, and it's pretty accurate to how real-world polytheism generally works. (Apparently it confuses western Christians a bit that people in Asia will visit a Christian church on certain occasions, then a Hindu temple or Shinto shrine) Most D&D settings have people usually be Henotheistic actually. Picking up one guy in the pantheon and acknowledging the others and even revering them but not in the same level as your main guy.
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# ? May 2, 2018 13:09 |
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Didn't the Wraith 20th PDF drop for Backers a while back, with some of the delays being "Literal last minute approvals being held up by White Wolf?"
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Alien Rope Burn posted:Ah, yes, like... My favorite part of Eberron is that it is very spelled out that you can in fact worship yourself as a deity/divine entity and get cleric powers, but it's one of those "it's a secret to everyone" things. Would also make a good plot hook: a cleric of Steve, gently caress You Yes I Can, going around teaching people to be their own god and get whatever domains they think are most fun to have.
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Yawgmoth posted:Would also make a good plot hook: a cleric of Steve, gently caress You Yes I Can, going around teaching people to be their own god and get whatever domains they think are most fun to have. This is the Blood of Vol, though.
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I liked Droaam, because the idea of a nation of "monsters" is cool. And the fact that a hobgoblin empire once stretched across the continent was neat too. I should run an SotDL game using Eberron as the setting.
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Serf posted:I liked Droaam, because the idea of a nation of "monsters" is cool. And the fact that a hobgoblin empire once stretched across the continent was neat too. I should run an SotDL game using Eberron as the setting. Yes, yes you should.
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Lemon-Lime posted:This is the Blood of Vol, though.
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# ? May 2, 2018 14:42 |
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There's an upcoming Deadpool limited comic series coming out soon, and its cover design may be relevant to the interests of this thread:
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Oh god the Paranoia cover is perfect.
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dwarf74 posted:Oh god the Paranoia cover is perfect.
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dwarf74 posted:Oh god the Paranoia cover is perfect. The only way it could've possibly been better is if they found Jim Holloway and had him draw it. That being said, the Paranoia cover is still really, really goddamn good as is.
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FMguru posted:There's an upcoming Deadpool limited comic series coming out soon, and its cover design may be relevant to the interests of this thread: Keep in mind these are variants if anyone wants to get hard copies In case anyone is wondering this one is a reference to Diceman, a gamebook spinoff from the UK comics magazine 2000AD
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Lightning Lord posted:Keep in mind these are variants if anyone wants to get hard copies
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dwarf74 posted:I was really confused about this one. Wow, this is a seriously obscure reference. Good on them. It's probably because the style of gamebook comic You Are Deadpool is was directly inspired by Diceman.
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quote:The only other story in the comic which was not derived from 2000 AD was "You are Ronald Reagan in: Twilight's Last Gleaming", a satirical spoof in which the reader, playing the part of the American president, must prevent nuclear war breaking out. In contrast to the strip Diceman, this strip also had a sanity score, but if it got too high, then the Secret Service assume that the president must have been replaced with an imposter (a comment on Reagan's perceived intellectual limitations). This game was exceptionally difficult compared with the others in the comic, as the player must make irrational decisions to avoid arrest and execution, while trying to make the right decisions to prevent a nuclear launch by either side.
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If I wanted to play in a particular system, but the goon games don’t have any of that type recruiting right now, what’s another good place to find groups? I want to avoid the insanity detailed in the Cat Piss thread so I’m wary of joining random poo poo on Roll20, but that doesn’t give me a lot of selection. IRL friends aren’t interested in starting a TRRPG campaign due to something I’ve never figured out.
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# ? May 2, 2018 22:39 |
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hope I'm not too late to Eberron chat, but it's definitely my favourite "established" setting in TTRPGs and I ran it a ton back in HS and undergrad and kinda always end up returning to it in some way if they were to do a 5e campaign book it might end up being the only good thing about d&d currently
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Pollyanna posted:If I wanted to play in a particular system, but the goon games don’t have any of that type recruiting right now, what’s another good place to find groups? I want to avoid the insanity detailed in the Cat Piss thread so I’m wary of joining random poo poo on Roll20, but that doesn’t give me a lot of selection. IRL friends aren’t interested in starting a TRRPG campaign due to something I’ve never figured out. Try RPoL? Although my experience there was kinda middling. I think someone posted the whole book in LF
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Plutonis posted:Try RPoL? Although my experience there was kinda middling. In that case, is it a bad idea to try and GM a game myself if I’ve only played a TTRPG a couple times?
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Pollyanna posted:In that case, is it a bad idea to try and GM a game myself if I’ve only played a TTRPG a couple times? I wouldn't host a game for randoms, but if you get some people you know and trust together, that might work nicely.
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Pollyanna posted:In that case, is it a bad idea to try and GM a game myself if I’ve only played a TTRPG a couple times? someone has to always been the first in lots of groups, no reason it can't be you just make it known that you're new at this and people should self-select for that pretty well i imagine
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# ? May 2, 2018 23:08 |
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If you are gonna GM why not do it with goons you know then?
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# ? May 2, 2018 23:12 |
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Kai Tave posted:Exalted 3E's Kickstarter was a debacle but lol if you think Swedish Dracula's magnum opus is going to be remotely worth paying for based on everything that's been presented thus far. Show us on the doll where the Swedish publisher touched you. This is hardly a "magnum opus," sparky. This is literally "the very first products from a newly established company" and includes a high end artisanal release for the serious collectors. For me, the important thing to take away from this initial announcement is that these books are actually going to show up in your FLGS, something that Onyx Path was unwilling to bother with. And being that these announcements are also filtering through ICV2, the trade magazine, this is an official solicitation in the industry, rather than some guy in Pennsylvania shrieking into the void. Insofar as "everything that has been presented," I can only laugh. An art-free alpha preview has zero to with the the polish of the finished product, and since no one (that I have seen here) has had a beef with the rules presented, I'm guessing this is where the exhibited disdain is cropping up from. I feel about this much like I felt about the art-free alpha preview that FFG posted for L5R - it's a sampler for the fans to bitch about, but otherwise, it's not much to go on for the final layout. And well, given the track record of Swedish RPG publications... I don't see too many people complaining about the quality of Tales from the Loop, Symbaroum, Coriolis, Trudvang, Mutant: Year Zero, Kult, etc. If nothing else, the Paradox White Wolf is going to have to live up to the standards set by the other Swedish RPG companies. And well, they recruited Ken Hite and Mark Rein-Hagen to develop it, and we all know those guys suck, right? Yeah, it looks a lot like I'm carrying water for this company. From where I'm standing, I'm waiting to see how if they actually fail to deliver, rather than deciding - based on close to zero evidence, past a single press release and an alpha playtest document - that it's totally going to suck and everything is ruined forever and such as. But until August comes, all of this is rank speculation, rather than reasoned debate. For what it's worth, I gave Onyx Path every single chance I could, and they managed to disappoint spectacularly. Kai Tave posted:I mentioned Exalted because of the "products they claim are written at the time of launch" dig, dude. I have no idea if they promised Wraith20 was done prior to it being crowdfunded though yes, it's been significantly delayed as well. Other than those two, have there been any other Onyx Path kickstarters with significant delays beyond the norm for a crowdfunded RPG project? Rather than take all day to post this one reply, I'll go back and check the dates and the fulfillment on the Onyx Path Kickstarters that I was part of. Without looking, I think every single one took a minimum of a year and a half from funding to delivery. Exalted was its own particular subset of nonsense on that count, since it looks to have launched the Kickstarter early May of 2013, and the shipping notification was April of 2017. I guess the question is "How long should a game revision take to bring to market?" From my own library, I can immediately point to things like the Torg Eternity Kickstarters. The Living Land KS closed at 11:00pm EST, and I had the PDF's for three books on my desktop 14 hours later. Sure, we can debate about the audience of Torg Eternity or the relative merits of the game, but I already have documents in hand to use at my table, TYVM. Alien Rope Burn posted:Ah, yes, like... Well, if we want to put them up against the previous computer game company that held the White Wolf properties, they've delivered press releases and images for a product. So, there's that. Again, if August comes and there's nothing on the shelves to buy, you'll be right. Until then, it's all wild speculation. Yawgmoth posted:A lot of edgy casual racism/sexism? That is kind of a thing they promised! Was this something from the alpha? I mean, it's not Onyx Path, with their baked-in Rape Charm Set for Exalted 3e, so they can still reach for those stars.
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Martin Snazz posted:And well, they recruited Ken Hite and Mark Rein-Hagen to develop it, and we all know those guys suck, right? Poster who hasn't read I Am Zombie detected
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Waffles Inc. posted:hope I'm not too late to Eberron chat, but it's definitely my favourite "established" setting in TTRPGs and I ran it a ton back in HS and undergrad and kinda always end up returning to it in some way IMO, you are never too late for Eberron chat. Tbh if they just released Eberron as it's own thing, that would probably be preferable.
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Pollyanna posted:If I wanted to play in a particular system, but the goon games don’t have any of that type recruiting right now, what’s another good place to find groups? I want to avoid the insanity detailed in the Cat Piss thread so I’m wary of joining random poo poo on Roll20, but that doesn’t give me a lot of selection. IRL friends aren’t interested in starting a TRRPG campaign due to something I’ve never figured out. What system are you interested in?
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This is a question to the fellow GMs out there, but what "character" do you find you default to without trying? Like, when you don't know what to do, what do you end up doing with a person? Why? I tend to make them an rear end in a top hat, usually. Somewhat because I do feel that most players act like jerks in-universe, with few exceptions, due to the fact that, well, they're real and the NPCs are not, if you follow me. So, I think the jerk response is kind of normal. I also find it helps make the players emotionally invested, even if it is only in desire to get revenge. In the future, I should probably shy away from it because of the same thing I mentioned earlier: players are real, NPCs are not. First off, this has, very rarely, annoyed some players. Secondly, players will not hesitate to do above and beyond in their revenge, including genocide, because they're real and the NPCs are not. How about all of you?
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so who bought swedracula an account
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Because I'm a moron and like the punishment inherent to backing Onyx Path Kickstarters: Werewolf 20th - Kickstarter: October 2012 Pledged: $120 Promised: January 2013 Shipped: November 2013 Time: One Year Hunters Hunted II - Kickstarter: February 2013 Pledged: $45 Promised: May 2013 Shipped: November 2013 Time: Nine Months Exalted 3e - Kickstarter: May 2013 Pledged: $110 Promised: December 2013 Shipped: April 2017 Time: Four Years Changing Breeds - Kickstarter: July 2013 Pledged: $50 Promised: December 2013 Shipped: July 2014 Time: One Year Anarchs Unbound - Kickstarter: February 2014 Pledged: $50 Promised: December 2014 Shipped: December 2014 Time: Ten Months Mage 20th - Kickstarter: April 2014 Pledged: $135 Promised: March 2015 Shipped: March 2016 Time: Two Years Book of the Wyrm - Kickstarter: June 2014 Pledged: $50 Promised: June 2015 Shipped: May 2015 Time: Eleven Months Dark Ages 20th - Kickstarter: October 2014 Pledged: $100 Promised: November 2015 Shipped: November 2015 Time: One Year Wraith 20th - Kickstarter: December 2014 Pledged: $110 Promised: November 2015 Shipped: NOPE Time: Three and a Half Years... so far Lore of the Clans - Kickstarter: April 2015 Pledged: $55 Promised: March 2016 Shipped: April 2016 Time: One Year Shattered Dreams - Kickstarter: November 2015 Pledged: $50 Promised: December 2016 Shipped: March 2017 Time: One and Half Years Changeling 20th - Kickstarter: December 2015 Pledged: $110 Promised: June 2017 Shipped: April 2018 Time: Two and a Half Years Trinity: Aeon - Kickstarter: February 2018 Pledged: $90 Promised: October 2019 Shipped: We'll see... So, the takeaway is that they take forever to fulfill, but some are much worse than others. Also, I seem to be fairly bitter about the Exalted 3e Kickstarter, and that's colored my perception of how long it's taken for these books to actually arrive. Especially when this is the text offered in the Risks & Challenges bit at the end of the Werewolf KS: Richard Thomas posted:The writing is already finished and half of the book will have been laid out by the time this is posted. 99% of the art is in, and both outstanding artists are creators with whom I have worked since 1993 on WtA first edition. They had huge assignments but the art is coming in. Even with all of this, it took five months for them to release the PDF's for Werewolf 20th, and those still needed proofreading and some editing, as I recall. Exalted 3e claimed that the "writing is already more than half-way finished and we are contracting the remaining art at the same time as this KS." Similarly, the Wraith 20th KS was about halfway done at the time of the Kickstarter. And we know how quickly those projects delivered.
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Antivehicular posted:Poster who hasn't read I Am Zombie detected Fair enough. Got a link for some proper hate, since the quick Google Search isn't turning up much negative criticism?
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Covok posted:This is a question to the fellow GMs out there, but what "character" do you find you default to without trying? Like, when you don't know what to do, what do you end up doing with a person? Why? i don't GM a lot but my NPCs tend to end up a lot like my PCs - loud, dorky in a cute way, generally happy people-persons who end up as the straight man more often than not. I don't think I've ever played a jerk or evil character on either side of the screen in over a decade
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Martin Snazz posted:Rather than take all day to post this one reply, I'll go back and check the dates and the fulfillment on the Onyx Path Kickstarters that I was part of. Without looking, I think every single one took a minimum of a year and a half from funding to delivery. Exalted was its own particular subset of nonsense on that count, since it looks to have launched the Kickstarter early May of 2013, and the shipping notification was April of 2017. I know we got the backer pdf in 2015 Martin Snazz posted:I mean, it's not Onyx Path, with their baked-in Rape Charm Set for Exalted 3e, so they can still reach for those stars. There isn't anything like a rape charm set in either the core or the other books. I mean, I guess you can call it that based on the Abyssals Preview shitstorm they walked back on, but then I reserve the right to keep calling the SA the rape forum even if they got rid of Aatrek or Shmorky too.
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# ? May 3, 2018 00:02 |
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of course now plutonis is going to be like "ACTually you were evil or at least conniving in the ivalice game" to which i say there is nothing evil about explosions as long as you're suitably cute
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Covok posted:This is a question to the fellow GMs out there, but what "character" do you find you default to without trying? Like, when you don't know what to do, what do you end up doing with a person? Why? I tend to have cartoon characters because funny voices are easy and characterization beyond 3 things is hard.
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Covok posted:This is a question to the fellow GMs out there, but what "character" do you find you default to without trying? Edit: lol holy poo poo if martin snazz isn't actually martin ericsson and/or another zak s sockpuppet I would be mildly shocked at this point Yawgmoth fucked around with this message at 00:08 on May 3, 2018 |
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Countblanc posted:of course now plutonis is going to be like "ACTually you were evil or at least conniving in the ivalice game" to which i say there is nothing evil about explosions as long as you're suitably cute Calm down Megumin
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