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Factor Mystic posted:Marine Biology was imprinted into 80s/90s kids brains due to it literally being in the zeitgeist. I mean look at this: Don't forget Echo the Dolphin.
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AA is for Quitters posted:Don't forget Echo the Dolphin. I wanted to be an entomologist after playing Earthworm Jim. True story.
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Feb 22, 2017 04:29
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Factor Mystic posted:Marine Biology was imprinted into 80s/90s kids brains due to it literally being in the zeitgeist. I mean look at this: Seaquest (1993-1996) They had a talking dolphin!
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Feb 22, 2017 04:37
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AA is for Quitters posted:Don't forget Echo the Dolphin. You're thinking of sound reflections. The videogame was called Ecce the Dolphin.
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Feb 22, 2017 04:37
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Doc Hawkins posted:You're thinking of sound reflections. The videogame was called Ecce the Dolphin.
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Residency Evil posted:As a kid, astronaut and garbage man were both on the potential career list. In retrospect, the saddest was when I told my mom I wanted to be a grad student like my dad so that I could see him. I wish I had become a garbage man. Work early, plenty of days off, and one of the few jobs where a strike will immediately bring a city to the bargaining table.
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Feb 22, 2017 04:44
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Solice Kirsk posted:I wish I had become a garbage man. Work early, plenty of days off, and one of the few jobs where a strike will immediately bring a city to the bargaining table. What's stopping you, then?
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EAT FASTER!!!!!! posted:edit: I will never forget the day someone in BFC pointed out to me what carrying interest on a credit card was doing every month to our cash flow and it was like this light flipped on. Doctors are human beings just like everyone else and it's really easy to justify bad behavior when you've been delaying gratification so long and you see all your peers with their whole lives developing while you're in this arrested development. The resource I read that really made up my mind was "the Millionaire Next Door," just wish I'd read it before I bought our car. Another BFC success story 
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Riding a horse can give a young girl her first orgasm. This is extremely not the thread for this
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Feb 22, 2017 05:50
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EAT FASTER!!!!!! posted:Here's some personal BWM for you: our very last year of medical training, by this point well over $400,000 in student loan debt, my wife and I elected to have a twenty five thousand dollar wedding and a four thousand dollar honeymoon we "paid for" ourselves on credit cards, some interest free but much of it riding on APR interest rates. We had literally zero dollars in savings, and were living with, like $800 each in our checking accounts and decided we wouldn't ask family for money. Instead of gifts or money, we had our guests donate to charity with the understanding we'd be earning "soon enough" to justify it. We proceeded to then get pregnant within a year and had a baby, delaying my wife's entry into her staff job 3 months while she took maternity. To top it off, before we even paid down our credit cards, I went out and bought her a NEW (ugh) $70,000 car with just my first month's paycheck to get approved for an auto loan. Also before we had even paid off credit card debt, we'd gone out and bought a house with zero down on 2 (actually relatively reasonably structured) ARMs stacked on top of each other (and were so cash poor that I wasn't sure we would have cash to put up earnest money), but by this point I was reading BFC on the regular and things were looking up. I have been in the medical industry for a fairly long time and before that knew quite a few med students. I honestly thing money management should be a mandatory class. Edit: Based on a smaller sample size the same should apply to nurses.
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well the thing is a huge part of debt is the difficulty in getting out from under it and a dual doctor family just will never have that problem, which is a pretty awesome perk lol like you said, as soon as you became debt aware it just starts melting away, whereas for poor people it's just the start of bankruptcy or a decade(s) long struggle in case of non dischargeable debt
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Feb 22, 2017 06:06
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A lot of people start spending like they have a real doctor job the moment they get their MD when for many it will be another ten years before they actually break six figures. Add that spending to all their student debt and many live pay cheque to pay cheque for decades.
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I have a couple friends who are nautical archaeologists (which is entirely, completely unrelated to marine biology). Basically, you need a Ph.D to get an actual job in the field and you will either be a professor or work for a museum. They are in their mid-30's before getting a real job and their research consists of digging up shipwrecks for various reasons (for example, studying ancient Mediterranean trade routes by analyzing the pottery found on a shipwreck). It takes forever to finish your Ph.D because a nontrivial part of your time there is sitting around electrolyzing centuries of crap off the surface of the boat parts and cargo you really want to research. I guess they enjoy what they do and admittedly they have cool pictures on Facebook when they're doing field work (diving in picturesque places), but it's a tough path and doesn't pay terribly well.
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cowofwar posted:A lot of people start spending like they have a real doctor job the moment they get their MD when for many it will be another ten years before they actually break six figures. Add that spending to all their student debt and many live pay cheque to pay cheque for decades. yes that's a fun thing people like to bring up as an example of the hubris of doctors, but in reality, living "paycheck to paycheck" is actually fantastic when your paycheck is huge and your credit is amazing, and statistically the overwhelming majority of doctors are still immensely wealthy by the time they are older (see http://www.medscape.com/features/slideshow/compensation/2015/debt-and-net-worth ) and even then a dual doctor family, which is what i was talking about, is a completely different story altogether edit: the direct link isn't working but you can just Google "average doctor savings us" for it
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Dual MD just means you pay up to 50% marginal tax rate and get boned hard by the marriage penalty. It's a serious disincentive to increased productivity. Rather just take longer vacations. Eat faster do you do pain? 4/4 of my anesthesia friends said screw this and do pain. Great WM. Great with not having to wake up for 7 AM OR time. Great with not having to put up with bullshit surgeons.
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potatoducks posted:Dual MD just means you pay up to 50% marginal tax rate and get boned hard by the marriage penalty. It's a serious disincentive to increased productivity. Rather just take longer vacations. Eat faster do you do pain? 4/4 of my anesthesia friends said screw this and do pain. Great WM. Great with not having to wake up for 7 AM OR time. Great with not having to put up with bullshit surgeons. I love OR anesthesia, and thrive on conflict. I was very nearly a surgeon and don't mind getting up early. You literally could not pay me enough to be a pain physician. My wife and I both work at a state hospital so our comp. isn't as lucrative as some in my field but the benefits are VERY good and the hours are incredibly cushy compared with private practice. EAT FASTER!!!!!! fucked around with this message at 13:57 on Feb 22, 2017 |
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Sic Semper Goon posted:What's stopping you, then? If you had a toddler you would know that garbage men are being replaced by automated equipment pretty fast. A crew of three is now a crew of one on each truck.
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Mercury Ballistic posted:If you had a toddler you would know that garbage men are being replaced by automated equipment pretty fast. A crew of three is now a crew of one on each truck. What does this do with having a toddler? This is "if it hadn't been for that horse, I wouldn't have spent that year in college" stuff here. Nail Rat fucked around with this message at 14:25 on Feb 22, 2017 |
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Nail Rat posted:What does this do with having a toddler? Sorry if it is too vague a connection, my son is fully into garbage truck facination mode. Seems common as there is an endless amount of toy garbage trucks.
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Feb 22, 2017 14:15
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potatoducks posted:Rather just take longer vacations. Eat faster do you do pain? 4/4 of my anesthesia friends said screw this and do pain. Great WM. Great with not having to wake up for 7 AM OR time. Great with not having to put up with bullshit surgeons. Out of context this sounds creepy as heck. Do you do pain? 
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Feb 22, 2017 14:18
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Volmarias posted:Out of context this sounds creepy as heck. Don't kinkshame 
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Mercury Ballistic posted:Sorry if it is too vague a connection, my son is fully into garbage truck facination mode. Seems common as there is an endless amount of toy garbage trucks. I thought your son was working on the garbage trucks and you were worried about his job security.
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In today's economy, you have to plan for their career when they're 2, or they'll never get hired as a sanitation engineer.
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Volmarias posted:In today's economy, you have to plan for their career when they're 2, or they'll never get hired as a sanitation engineer. I hate that phrase. Garbage men and janitors aren't in engineering positions. Now the people who design sewers, spillways, dams, culvert, and sluices... those are the real sanitation engineers. 
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Volmarias posted:Out of context this sounds creepy as heck. Even in context I'm not entirely sure EAT FASTER DO YOU DO PAIN isn't some of their inner serial killer leaking out
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SpelledBackwards posted:I hate that phrase. Hoo boy let me tell you about my last all-hands company meeting, in which management said "everyone in this room is an engineer" and then went on to talk about "marketing engineers" and "sales engineers"
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Feb 22, 2017 15:42
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Engineer is such a watered down term these days that it's a wonder people still bother using it
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Nail Rat posted:What does this do with having a toddler? Toddlers like to watch garbage trucks.
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If you're salty about other people getting the title engineer then you should just find yourself a new title because fighting that fight is a losing battle.
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Feb 22, 2017 15:57
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Cocoa Crispies posted:Toddlers like to watch garbage trucks.
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Cocoa Crispies posted:Toddlers like to watch garbage trucks. Not everyone lives where the toddler could see a garbage truck, i.e. an apartment building. Also not all toddlers are at home where the parent could see that fascination, some of them are at daycare when trash pickups happen (generally weekdays). He gave clarification on what he meant specifically, but it really needed some more context because just having a toddler doesn't really imply anything there.
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Not a Children posted:Engineer is such a watered down term these days that it's a wonder people still bother using it For real. The thing I've discovered lately is that the freshly graduated "Mechanical Engineer" roughly translates to "Knows how to use solid works reasonably quickly". Ask metallurgy questions and I get blank stares, from someone in charge of the weld shop. God, people being covetous about titles is running my company into the ground.
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Titles are the kind of thing I feel like people in their 20s care about. Pay me six figures and you can call me Junior Shitlord for all I care.
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Feb 22, 2017 16:34
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Noctone posted:Pay me six figures and you can call me Junior Shitlord for all I care. New thread title plz.
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Noctone posted:Titles are the kind of thing I feel like people in their 20s care about. Pay me six figures and you can call me Junior Shitlord for all I care. When those same people get to 35ish they'll realize that titles are a joke too.
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Nail Rat posted:Not everyone lives where the toddler could see a garbage truck, i.e. an apartment building. Also not all toddlers are at home where the parent could see that fascination, some of them are at daycare when trash pickups happen (generally weekdays). I thought it was pretty common knowledge that kids are super fascinated with garbage trucks. Guess not
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Barry posted:I thought it was pretty common knowledge that kids are super fascinated with garbage trucks. Guess not It is. Literally anyone who has even distant interactions with a toddler got the reference.
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Feb 22, 2017 16:45
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Like autistic children and vacuum cleaners.
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Noctone posted:Titles are the kind of thing I feel like people in their 20s care about. Pay me six figures and you can call me Junior Shitlord for all I care. 6 figures isn't that much money for such a bad title.
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My kid was all stoked about engineers in 5th grade and came home and wrote a paper on them for school. Something to do with STEM I guess. I told her I'm an engineer. She just looked at me and sighed and I really couldn't argue with her. But my work title did say engineer.
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