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Weird BIAS posted:Just because I've always been rather confused by it, how the gently caress does someone turn out to be a newtype? Amuro spent his younger childhood on Earth, Hathaway too was mostly on Earth until CCA? So they are newtypes to some extent despite time spent on earth, is it because of their parents time in space? But people born and living in space all their lives aren't neccesarily newtypes. Lalah was a newtype despite being born(?) and living on Earth before Char met her too? Quess too was a daughter of a federation politician and spent time on Earth before CCA too. It's always confused me a bunch how this was supposed to be occuring as some evolution when tons and tons of the new types were not spacenoids. We don't know what makes a person become a Newtype, and that's actually kind of the point a lot of the time. Like, back in the original Gundam at one point someone says essentially "hey, Amuro, are you a Newtype?" and his response is to say he doesn't know, but maybe he is but he thinks that maybe everyone on the White Base is a Newtype because of how far they've come and what they've been through. And again, this is Amuro Ray who is by nearly any definition a Newtype. The idea that if everyone goes into space they'll all eventually become Newtypes is floated a couple of times, but even in universe this is questioned and considered to be flawed reasoning. The idea that spacenoids are inherently more evolved humans is bunk, it was one of the justifications Zeon used to go to war and it's bullshit. Meanwhile, the idea that everyone should move into space and eventually become Newtypes so the planet can heal and so war will end (in universe it's called Contolism) is at best extremely naïve and missing a lot of steps and vastly underestimating the required length of time for that to happen (that was one of the only coherent points in Gundam NT). Again, it's sort of the point that we actually don't know what makes a person a Newtype, and that it's even harder to tell in universe if someone actually is a Newtype because so often it just manifests as having good instincts or ability to quickly read people or to have premonitions. Being in space helps, but it's not required by any means. Char's line about how mankind is weighed down by gravity is explicitly bogus, he's just reusing Zeonic talking points because they're convenient, and in case we couldn't tell that Char lies all the drat time here's Quess who as far as can be confirmed never went into space until the events of CCA meaning she became a Newtype on earth. Hathaway as well, I'm pretty sure that was the first time he had been in space himself.
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Ethiser posted:Didn't Judau only live in space until ZZ? He's like one of the strongest newtypes we see and one of the most reasonable. he only got super strong after visiting earth, though.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:usually it is people who lived both in space and on earth. the few exceptions who did one or the other exclusively tended to suck, i think. Haman was hot poo poo even before she returned to the Earth sphere, and Paptimus made an effort to stay as far as he could from Earth's gravity. Oh, and Challia Bull was born in space and died in space with no sign of a visit to Earth in the middle. As a rule of thumb, Newtypes tend to have their abilities kick in once they've spent time outside of the gravity well, but like most things about Newtypes, it's more of a general guideline than a hard and fast rule. Another notable feature is that Newtypes tend to be contagious. Like with the White Base, being around Newtypes for an extended period makes you more sensitive to Newtype stuff, even when, like Bright, you still aren't a "Newtype proper". (That said, Amuro commented in Light of Life that he didn't believe that anyone was a full on Newtype, with Gundam pilots coming closest.)
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Honestly this all kind of depends on what definition of Newtype one is even using in the first place, personally I just stick with the most practical definition where it's someone whose psychic abilities have evolved enough to give them some manner of extra-sensory and/or communicative abilities, especially if they are potent enough to react with Psycommu/Psyco-Frame technologies This approach keeps things nice and simple by ignoring most of the philosophical aspects that needlessly muck up discussions of what a Newtype is
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I kind of like that it's hard to really say what a Newtype is or what it means to be a Newtype? Isn't that part of the whole thing, that they're the New Type of humanity? Of course us Old Types aren't going to fully get it. That's definitely the vibe I got from the novels, that not even Tomino really knows what Newtypes are. Or at least it's not an idea he can easily express in words.
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Gaius Marius posted:Personally I think taking what X has to say about Newtypes and applying it to UC is folly. It just doesn't work at all thematically Gundam X doesn't actually say anything different about Newtypes thematically or otherwise from what UC does - Newtypes not being something that requires being in space to manifest is well established in the UC at this point. All X does that UC hasn't is have the ur-Newtype tell people that obsession with the Newtype mythology is a folly and holding back humanity. He doesn't debunk their existence or reveal them to be something different from what was already known.
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It seems pretty obvious that Gigi and Hathaway are Newtypes as we, the audience, understand the concept - they've got fairly potent psychic powers. When they say they're not Newtypes, they're rejecting the cultural/philosophical concept of 'the next step of humanity', rather than denying the very obvious fact that they have superpowers.
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I think it's worth noting that the idea of "Newtypes" and connecting them to Contolism is balanced entirely on Zeon Zum Deikun's writing, who by all accounts got lucky in writing this grandiose manifesto about how humanity moving into space will bring peace and let the planet's ecosystem heal and then having the whole "humanity will change" bit play out in a comically literal way. As Unicorn points out, this went Really loving Bad because now people had this thing they can point to and say Zeon Did Nothing Wrong. I don't think Deikun had any idea that actual people would get actual psychic powers that let them communicate telepathically, have limited precognition, and communicate with the living after death. That seems a bit of a stretch for what is basically Space Karl Marx.drrockso20 posted:Honestly this all kind of depends on what definition of Newtype one is even using in the first place, personally I just stick with the most practical definition where it's someone whose psychic abilities have evolved enough to give them some manner of extra-sensory and/or communicative abilities, especially if they are potent enough to react with Psycommu/Psyco-Frame technologies The thing is, the philosophical aspects are the single most important part, because it's the philosophy that keeps driving conflicts in the U.C. I think you're right in that being a Newtype is a secular thing in reality, but it's the fact that it got correlated to Deikun's philosophy and anti-Federation sentiment that makes them important. Without Deikun's manifesto the idea of spacenoid supremacy put forth by Ghiren would have had a much more difficult time taking root. But the existence of Newtypes 'legitimized' it. Thus for twenty years the U.C. has been hobbling from war to war because of this philosophy. There could be many different anti-Federation movements, but with the exception of AEUG (which wasn't all that different from Zeon--just lacked the genocidal racism part) they all get rolled up into Zeonism. The last time this conversation came around, it was pointed out that 00 is kinda a thought experiment of "what would happen if Newtypes but not Zeon?" Innovators could have gone down the same path if Ribbons had his way, but he got dunked on before any kind of supremacist movement could take root in the general population based on Innovators. While the A-Laws are fully aping the Titans, they similarly lack that supremacist underpinnings of their inspiration--if anything, the A-Laws are ideologically bankrupt because Ribbons never got to the point where he could put down an ideology to justify them. The A-Laws have nationalism, but given that 00 at that point was all one nation they don't have an external threat to respond to. The A.D. timeline lacks any nationalist opposition like what Zeon represented. The U.C., and our concept of Newtypes, would have been very different if Zeon Deikun had never become prominent.
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ninjewtsu posted:hathaway managed to make the stupid dweeb kid from char's counterattack genuinely compelling and kinda cool. very good movie I was definitely checking my expectations after Narrative. They actually made a real banger here. Looking forward to the next installment. ninjewtsu posted:F91 was from before I was born Unicorn went pig-wild with the collateral damage porn too. We had that wonderful shot of Bancroft getting melted like the guy in Indiana Jones when the Kshatriya killed that ReZEL, and when Shamblo was attacking Torrington, one of the beam reflections cuts through a building and fire escape sending a mother and baby plunging to their death. Also 0080 had the initial fight inside Side 6. Still, Hathaway was way more in the thick of it and focused on conveying the terror of being a person on the ground when there are giant robots firing lasers measured in gigawatts nearby.+ WrightOfWay posted:I watched Hathaway. It was good. Very pretty, though it was pretty hard to figure what was going in the battles, which worked really well for the city battle but less so with the ocean battle at the end. I also still don't really like the look of Penelope and Xi but they're ok in motion. I didn't have too much trouble, but at the same time the night battle between Xi and Penelope felt 'right' being difficult to see, acting as a sort of 'fog of war' to convey the uncertainty and confusion Lane was experiencing. If it had been 'easy to see,' the dropping the beam rifle trick wouldn't have sold as well and would undermine Lane's competence as a pilot. Admittedly, Kenneth already did that, but Kenneth comes off as an insufferably egotistical commander regardless of his level of competence so giving us reason to doubt Kenneth's appraisal of Lane is good. tsob posted:I don't even like the designs in motion personally, so much as a I feel like a lot of the smaller details get lost in the blur of action so that only the larger, imposing bulk and general shape is perceived. One thing I do like though is the Minovsky Flight Systems, with the gold lining of the Penelope flashing as it moves; especially with the sound it makes. I do really like the tail on the Penelope too. I like that the design on the Xi and Penelope is somewhat alien compared to everything built before the turn of the century and not a T3 prototype. I think it gives a good sense of progression from the first generation mobile suits of the One Year War. Kinda like looking at a MiG-9 vs a MiG-35, or an F-8 vs an F-35. And I had the same reaction to Kenneth's realization, so much so that watching the dub I replayed that scene thinking I missed something. I'm wondering if a tic or turn of phrase got lost in translation? A friend of mine had me review a translation of a Japanese poem she did. She explained the meaning to me before I read it, and my criticism was that the choice of words in English didn't convey the meaning of the poem as she had explained it to me. I recommended that if she wanted to revise it, she take a bit more liberty with how literal her translation was and lean on the liberal side of changing words and phrases so that an English-speaking audience would experience the same affect. The Japanese used idioms and wordplay that don't have the same connotation in English, and the meaning gets lost in a more conservative translation. Point being, Gigi saying "Hathaway seemed like he was avoiding me" didn't seem like something that would suddenly connect the dots unless there's something about what she says in Japanese that has double-meaning or can be read differently depending on the context. Ultimately I'm crossing my fingers that we get an original narrative after this series wraps up as well. I wouldn't mind if there was a bit of retconning of the Late U.C. even, Star Wars style. I honestly wouldn't mind striking everything from F91 through G-Reco/Turn A if Sunrise can produce a well written narrative that connects the early U.C. to the apocalyptic end of the timeline and G-Reco.
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I feel like the more pressing phrase in the conversation Gigi has with Kenneth is less "But it seemed Hathaway wanted nothing to do with me" on its own, and more the fact that she chose to say it in response to 'battle makes a soldier superstitious'. Kenneth starts by throwing out a glib dismissal of Hathaway, saying that it means he never was a real soldier, but seems to connect the dots that she isn't talking about him as a solider from that long ago, but about more a remark on how he is as a soldier at this very moment. In realizing that, he doubles back and asks what she meant by that, or rather what she felt from him, since if she's implying that he is in fact a soldier, that throws a wrench in his assumptions that he's just a civilian. The whole thing kinda reads like like a throwaway phrase that sparked a realization in Kenneth than anything else.
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On Kenneth and Gigi: Kenneth was saying something like (paraphrasing a bit) "a soldier would want to keep a goddess of victory like you around" to which Gigi responds "but Hathaway wanted nothing to do with me." At first Kenneth says "that's because he wasn't a real soldier..." and that's when he has his realization. Why would Gigi refer to Hathaway like that when Hathaway was supposed to be a botanist, over a decade removed from his one brush with combat? Why was Hathaway on that shuttle in particular? Why is Hathaway so good at killing people? Why did the captured Mafty mobile suit pilot stare at Hathaway (which was pretty forced, there's no way that he would have been able to recognize someone on the other side of the spotlights but whatever, narrative convenience.) That seemingly innocuous comment by Gigi was enough to start the wheels turning in Kenneth's head and start connecting the dots.
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Weird BIAS posted:That flash (heh) back to CCA with Quess which actually gutted me a bit despite being rather uninvested in Quess and Hathaway before ACES CURE PLANES posted:I feel like the more pressing phrase in the conversation Gigi has with Kenneth is less "But it seemed Hathaway wanted nothing to do with me" on its own, and more the fact that she chose to say it in response to 'battle makes a soldier superstitious'. Kenneth starts by throwing out a glib dismissal of Hathaway, saying that it means he never was a real soldier, but seems to connect the dots that she isn't talking about him as a solider from that long ago, but about more a remark on how he is as a soldier at this very moment. In realizing that, he doubles back and asks what she meant by that, or rather what she felt from him, since if she's implying that he is in fact a soldier, that throws a wrench in his assumptions that he's just a civilian. im rewatching now and on the shuttle before gigi even says a word to hathaway she immediately says that hathway has the same military "smell" on him as kenneth, but is better at hiding it. also it seems like kenneth suspects that gigi is a newtype based on this perception hathaway good. probably the best "core" UC property since CCA. xi and penelope are ugly as sin, but who care. TenementFunster fucked around with this message at 09:56 on Jul 3, 2021 |
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ill never forget that the little poo poo killed chan, tho
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TenementFunster posted:hathaway good. probably the best "core" UC property since CCA. xi and penelope are ugly as sin, but who care. I care, as they are perfect and Moriki needs to get more work doing mecha design for everything 
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TenementFunster posted:ill never forget that the little poo poo killed chan, tho Maybe that's why Amuro's ghost is just telling Hathaway's he's gonna die rather than something more immediately relevant.
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TenementFunster posted:ill never forget that the little poo poo killed chan, tho
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TenementFunster posted:ill never forget that the little poo poo killed chan, tho I mean, Chan did fire a missile to "protect" him that quite possibly could have ended up hitting him and killing him - Quess ended up dying by shoving him out of the way and taking the missile hit. From his perspective, Chan barged into the situation without knowing what was happening at all, started shooting, and ended up killing Quess for no reason. The whole situation didn't really promote a lot of trust in the adults knowing what the hell they're doing. Kanos fucked around with this message at 16:26 on Jul 3, 2021 |
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Conversely, Chan ruled
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I wonder if the inevitable upgrade they create for the Xi in one of the next movies will have colors that are closer to the original design. The movie version is just a little too white for me.
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TenementFunster posted:ill never forget that the little poo poo killed chan, tho If this adaptation is faithful enough to follow Beltorchika's Children rather than Char's Counterattack, then this Hathaway didn't do that (because Chan didn't exist). He killed Quess instead.
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Jul 3, 2021 17:11
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I think that's what they mean when they say he shot down an enemy mobile suit.
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He did loving destroy a Geara Doga with vulcans.
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One day they'll animate something in Gundam that does zero gravity properly and consistently. That day has not yet come with Hathaway, from my first few minutes watching. (Just watch a loving video from the ISS or something, how hard is that)
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Argas posted:He did loving destroy a Geara Doga with vulcans. The Jagans did record data in each engagement, so in my head canon someone knew what happened there after Hathaway's jegan. I wonder what Bright would think of his son murdering a crew member under his command. If he even knows anything. The thing with newtypes is that all of them share something in common in that they were all exposed to Minovsky particles at a relatively young age. Like oogly boogly its more of a "scientific" explanation for this phenomena. Its funny how their 'powers' seem to increase during battle when tons of M particles are thrown around.
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Burns posted:The Jagans did record data in each engagement, so in my head canon someone knew what happened there after Hathaway's jegan. I wonder what Bright would think of his son murdering a crew member under his command. If he even knows anything. how do you explain revil and chalia bull then, or even lalah
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Burns posted:The thing with newtypes is that all of them share something in common in that they were all exposed to Minovsky particles at a relatively young age. Like oogly boogly its more of a "scientific" explanation for this phenomena. Its funny how their 'powers' seem to increase during battle when tons of M particles are thrown around. If this was the case, Newtypes would be a LOT more common. Minovksy particles are ubiquitous across the setting as a by-product of the most common form of energy generation. They're basically background radiation everyone gets exposed to. Concentrations are much higher in combat zones because of how many things with reactors are nearby, but if you live in the U.C. your local power station is probably a fusion plant using a He3 reactor similar to the ultracompact designs Dr. Minovksy produced. The key conceit of the setting is that the particles are so ubiquitous that long range guided weapons like cruise missiles and radar are no longer effective because the particles disrupt radio, infrared, and at higher concentrations even visible light.
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Stairmaster posted:how do you explain revil and chalia bull then, or even lalah This doesn't exactly fit the themes, but I could see it being advanced as a hypothesis.
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Nessus posted:If you wanted to go with a Minovsky particle explanation, you could say that sensitivity varies from person to person (and is perhaps increased by life or death stress), so you're increasing the odds drastically but you're not going to be able to do it for everyone. This would also be a rationalization for Newtype phenomena appearing more often in space: you will likely be closer to a Minovsky source. (I don't think spacenoids have been around long enough for there to have been some low level 'the guys with a little esper power didn't die in the hullbreach' selection effect.) It really feels like noting the death rate of oxygen breathers. Minovsky particles are too common to be much use in telling Newtypes from non-Newtypes.
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Pretty sure new types are people who are haunted by ghosts. More new types more often as the oyw creates a bunch of ghosts.
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Sextro posted:Pretty sure new types are people who are haunted by ghosts. More new types more often as the oyw creates a bunch of ghosts. 
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Minovsky particles as the lead in the gasoline leading to space psychics.
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Finished IBO s1. Wowwee that was a good ride. Gonna take a break by watching Thunderbolt 2 and Gunbuster/Diebuster before s2 but I'm looking forward to it.
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Ibblebibble posted:Finished IBO s1. Wowwee that was a good ride. Gonna take a break by watching Thunderbolt 2 and Gunbuster/Diebuster before s2 but I'm looking forward to it. Glad you liked it. The second season takes a bit of time to ramp the roller coaster back into position, but once it gets going, it really goes. (Also, Gunbuster and Diebuster? Nice choice.)
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Gaius Marius posted:Naw fam I was gonna type something up about it at some point but the Scene with Hathaway and Gigi where she becomes Quess for a second is the single best representation of the newtype experience How? There's nothing to that scene beyond Hathaway remembering a thing that happened to him in the past that reminds him of the present; what's Newtype about that?  Weird BIAS posted:Lalah was a newtype despite being born(?) and living on Earth before Char met her too? Tomino wrote a novel called "Mobile Suit Gundam: Secret Rendevous" in 1997 about Lalah's origins, including the fact she was a prostitute as a child, her meeting with Char and being sent to the Flanagan Institute. I'm pretty sure that's where the idea of her having been a prostitute came from, since there's definitely no mention of her past in the TV show or movie beyond Lalah saying that Char "saved her life". Oddly, the way it's framed in the few summaries I've seen of the book online (none of which are more than a paragraph long) it sounds like she escaped the brothel on her own, met Char afterwards and he saved her life then. I say "oddly", because I know there's been a persistent joke online wondering what Char was doing in a brothel with child prostitutes in the first place. I don't know if that is actually the case, but if it is, then it's probably just a detail that got lost in translation. Or else the humorous element of it became memetically popular and overshadowed the truth so much it became essentially forgotten. Omnicrom posted:We don't know what makes a person become a Newtype, and that's actually kind of the point a lot of the time. Like, back in the original Gundam at one point someone says essentially "hey, Amuro, are you a Newtype?" and his response is to say he doesn't know, but maybe he is but he thinks that maybe everyone on the White Base is a Newtype because of how far they've come and what they've been through. And again, this is Amuro Ray who is by nearly any definition a Newtype. Did Contolism ever talk about people moving to space bringing about an end to war? I don't remember them being linked. The one time I can think of that "an end to war" is ever even brought up in UC is in Char's Counterattack, when Char tells the troops at Sweetwater during his speech that he intends to destroy the Earth to remove the cause of war. It's patent bullshit he's telling people to gin up support though, and isn't even linked to Contolism in the speech; unless you think any plan that ends with no-one on Earth is inherently Contolist regardless of whether it's mentioned or not. Char himself obviously had Contolist ideals, but his troops don't seem to have cared about it and he doesn't seem to have pushed it as something they should care about going by that speech. One thing that I always thought was kind of funny about 0079's approach to Newtypes is that Gihren uses the image of Newtypes and Spacenoids being the chosen people when convenient but clearly doesn't give a poo poo about those things as an actual motive. He manipulates Challia Bull into going off and fighting by invoking the idea he might be a Newtype in the TV show, but in the movies during the "Hitler scene" with Degwin he talks about how they can wait for "real" Newtypes to arrive after they've won the war. His entire tone during the scene is dismissive though, including calling Kycilia's Newtype Corps a convenience to increase people's morale and it implies he doesn't even believe in Newtypes full stop and is just manipulating his father as much as the people with talk about Newtypes. Kanos posted:I mean, Chan did fire a missile to "protect" him that quite possibly could have ended up hitting him and killing him - Quess ended up dying by shoving him out of the way and taking the missile hit. The weird thing about that to me is that Quess shakes Hathaway's Jegan off the Alpha Azieru while moving up and then appears to move back down to intercept missiles that would appear to have missed both of them entirely if she'd just kept moving up. Well, that's the other weird thing, I guess. The first is that a single missile could even destroy the Alpha Azieru given it's size. It's a huge mobile armor more comparable to a ship, and yet that one fairly small missile that Chan fires causes it to detonate. Then again, the Geara Dogas are apparently using paper thin armor too, and multiple Geara Dogas are taken out using vulcans by the Nu and Jegans. So maybe the Sazabi was the only unit Neo Zeon could afford to put real armor on, and everything else had paper thin armor more for looks than actual defense as a way to cut costs. Darth Walrus posted:If this adaptation is faithful enough to follow Beltorchika's Children rather than Char's Counterattack, then this Hathaway didn't do that (because Chan didn't exist). He killed Quess instead. It isn't. The initial trailers like this one link it to Char's Counterattack rather than Beltorchika's Children and even in the actual film, the initial title card at the start of the film lists the film as part of the UC Next 0100 project alongside Char's Counterattack and then the credits have the Nu and Sazabi rather than the Hi-Nu and Nightingale. Plastic_Gargoyle posted:One day they'll animate something in Gundam that does zero gravity properly and consistently. That day has not yet come with Hathaway, from my first few minutes watching. It's irrelevantly hard, because someone would have to want to do it to fail to do it properly. Gundam is as much space opera as it is sci-fi, and has always had rather loose space combat because of it, the same way Flash Gordon, Star Wars etc. would. They might include realistic aspects on occasion, but those are at the whim of the director and not because it's something the series is aiming for as such. Burns posted:The Jagans did record data in each engagement, so in my head canon someone knew what happened there after Hathaway's jegan. I wonder what Bright would think of his son murdering a crew member under his command. If he even knows anything. Fukui wrote a manga about Bright called "The Man Who Could Not Ride the Rainbow", and in it he's confronted by heads of the Federation who talk about how the Jegan Hathaway took out had no flight records and anything could have happened while he was piloting it. Why he may have even killed an ally. Which is said in a pointed, "we know this happened, and we'll pursue it even without evidence" way. It implies that Bright destroyed any records to protect Hathaway. The heads of the Federation then push Bright to take a deal where he'll hold a press conference saying that the light of Axis Shock was just fragments burning up in the atmosphere to save his family, Cameron etc. from repercussions. Which, after a Newtype vision of Amuro, Kamille and Judau (who isn't even dead; but it's not like that's a major barrier in Gundam after ZZ anyway I suppose), where they urge him to take the deal and protect Newtypes who have yet to come (Bright sees a vision of Banagher at this point) because the twisting of politicians can't cover up what people know they saw as well as noting it's only been a few years and that there's still a long way to go and a long time to do it, Bright takes the deal. On the condition that he can continue to be Londo Bell's commander rather than retire on Earth. Which he does so he can continue nurturing Newtypes. Warmachine posted:If this was the case, Newtypes would be a LOT more common. Minovksy particles are ubiquitous across the setting as a by-product of the most common form of energy generation. They're basically background radiation everyone gets exposed to. Concentrations are much higher in combat zones because of how many things with reactors are nearby, but if you live in the U.C. your local power station is probably a fusion plant using a He3 reactor similar to the ultracompact designs Dr. Minovksy produced. Minovsky particles are ubiquitous in UC, but they're normally present at such low levels they have no effect. That's why technology that relies on long distance wireless communication like telephones, radar, television signals etc. were invented before the Minovsky particle was discovered, and are still in use during the various shows outside of battles. We even see the occasional use of guided munitions and bombs during battles, such as M'Quve trying to nuke Odessa as a last ditch effort to stop losing. There were only 4 mobile suits at the battle, at least originally, so Minovsky particles probably weren't spread since they wouldn't have done much for either side with so few mobile suits present.
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Oh man I'm watching Hathaway and if this whole movie is literally just Gundam meets James Bond I am in love. Stylish opening musical number with mobile suits instead of naked dancing women. I'm Noa. Hathaway Noa. Dun Dun Dunnnnn. Dun Dun Dunnnnn. DunDun Du DuDun!
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Arcsquad12 posted:Oh man I'm watching Hathaway and if this whole movie is literally just Gundam meets James Bond I am in love. Stylish opening musical number with mobile suits instead of naked dancing women. Yeah, it feels like a spy thriller that happens to be set in the UC more than it feels like a Gundam movie with spy elements. Part of why it's so neat. (G-Savior sort of has the same thing going on, due to budget putting MS use at a minimum, but Hathaway's, you know, good.)
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I'm gonna say something controversial yet incredibly brave. Please hold on. There's zero reason there needed to be robots in Hathaway.
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Jul 4, 2021 22:38
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Gaius Marius posted:I'm gonna say something controversial yet incredibly brave. Please hold on. That's why they don't have robots. Just Mobile Suits.
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chiasaur11 posted:That's why they don't have robots. Mobile Suits are Robots and robot means slave, rly makes u think
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