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LostCosmonaut posted:Haha this is gonna be good. Fascist+conservative coalition is up 53-47. Sounds too stable, we're definitely gonna get the minority-ran grand coalition (cons+lib) with 43.9%
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Coalitions ahoy, in any case.
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# ? Apr 10, 2018 22:24 |
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I'm excited for the Japanese civil war where troops are sent over from various sides a la Spain.
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# ? Apr 10, 2018 22:34 |
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JCW with all the nearest countries being half-hearted satellites, countries collapsing even harder, or colonies of other unstable nations should be pretty great.
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# ? Apr 10, 2018 22:38 |
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VOTING CLOSED
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# ? Apr 10, 2018 23:01 |
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50.8% vs. 49.2% assuming the liberals side with the socialists. This is an absurdly close vote.
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# ? Apr 10, 2018 23:03 |
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Civil war ahoy
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# ? Apr 11, 2018 00:06 |
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WilliamAnderson posted:50.8% vs. 49.2% assuming the liberals side with the socialists. Nah, it should remain 29.7% Fascist, 28.9% Socialist with the 41.4% remaining becoming moderates that wonder why both sides can't compromise. You know, like reality.
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# ? Apr 11, 2018 00:12 |
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The proud Japanese Socialist Worker's Party of Workers would rather die than let the insidious social fascists work with them. After Tojo, then us!
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# ? Apr 11, 2018 01:09 |
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Man, if you're running fascist, please treat your overseas colonies with some respect
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# ? Apr 11, 2018 05:39 |
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I feel like after a hundred years of war, the military should basically take control of the government with the emperor remaining as a puppet figurehead. Maybe in hoi4 terms, Japan should be 'Non-Aligned'? Rather than an ideological conflict, Japan should probably be embroiled in a military conflict between IJN and IJA on who has the real power.
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# ? Apr 11, 2018 06:04 |
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Isn’t that pretty close to what historically happened though?
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# ? Apr 11, 2018 07:10 |
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Grizzwold posted:Isn’t that pretty close to what historically happened though? Japan is a lot more industrialised this time around. I'm sure the IJN won't lose its main force then deny it for year while IJA landings start going unsupported because they can't get along with the IJN. And Admirals won't have to stay with their ships to avoid assassins. That'd be absurd!
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# ? Apr 11, 2018 09:50 |
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The conservatives have made a half hearted pact with the fascists, while the liberals have fully thrown in their lot with the socialists. What will this mean for 1936?
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# ? Apr 11, 2018 10:00 |
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Japan splits along North and South. These are the adventures of the South Japanese Liberation Front
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# ? Apr 11, 2018 10:38 |
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Socialist/Liberal coalition based around Hokkaido, the Kanto Plain, and any other industrial areas mostly on Honshu which has a slim governmental majority to pass basic legislation against the Conservative/Fascist opposition parties based in the South islands and the rural/mountainous areas. Conservatives are actually a looser collection of Royalists and Rural interests that are not Fascist. Overall jingoism of population still makes the Social-Liberal governing coalition likely to go to war when needed as it's really never gone too badly for us.
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It means nothing in the long term, as despite society having split into four ideologies, all that ultimately means is that each ideology has a different idea of how to deal with foreign enemies and each blames the other three for the faults in society. The peoples jingoism and love of the emperor continues to unify them against the foreign enemies that have continued to try to stop the grand unification of Asia. But seriously, wasn't Japan at an extremely high level of jingoism at the end there? And wasn't it perpetually high through the campaign?
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Randalor posted:It means nothing in the long term, as despite society having split into four ideologies, all that ultimately means is that each ideology has a different idea of how to deal with foreign enemies and each blames the other three for the faults in society. The peoples jingoism and love of the emperor continues to unify them against the foreign enemies that have continued to try to stop the grand unification of Asia. It hit 25% at one point, but cratered for a bit after the Great War
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# ? Apr 11, 2018 14:58 |
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Top Hats Monthly posted:The conservatives have made a half hearted pact with the fascists, while the liberals have fully thrown in their lot with the socialists. What will this mean for 1936? A focus tree with a split path, I assume.
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# ? Apr 11, 2018 19:43 |
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While I work to figure out exactly how to crack HOI IV open and mod it, I will be doing a TOAW IV interlude following these scenarios Soviet-Siberian Clash Skirmish over Osaka Persian Incursion Ottoman Rebellion South Africa-Zulu confrontation If any of these interest you, please say so! Making scenarios won’t take me nearly as long as modding and will allow me to flesh out 1920-1936
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# ? Apr 11, 2018 20:08 |
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All interest me But if a choice must be made, Persian Incursion / Ottoman Rebellion
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# ? Apr 11, 2018 20:22 |
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I don't immediately recognize the acronym for TOAW IV, but I like all of those last three scenarios.
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# ? Apr 11, 2018 22:33 |
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Persian Incursion Simply because it rhymes.
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# ? Apr 11, 2018 23:24 |
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South Africa vs. Zulu, nothing much usually happens in Africa most games.
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# ? Apr 12, 2018 00:03 |
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Soviet-Siberian Clash Persian Incursion South Africa-Zulu confrontation
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# ? Apr 12, 2018 00:18 |
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South African - Zulu Confrontation
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# ? Apr 12, 2018 01:37 |
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South African - Zulu Confrontation but Skirmish over Osaka sounds cool too.
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scavy131 posted:I don't immediately recognize the acronym for TOAW IV, but I like all of those last three scenarios. The Operational Art of War IV
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# ? Apr 12, 2018 04:43 |
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Persian Incursion
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# ? Apr 12, 2018 12:26 |
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Russia fights Russia in the Soviet-Siberian Clash!
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# ? Apr 12, 2018 13:50 |
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First priority goes to South Africa v Zulu and Persian Incursion The first scenario involves South Africa attempting to seize mining assets from Zulu. South Africa must try to complete their objectives, if they press too hard a great power intervenes, which could lead to a Japanese intervention. If Zulu pushes too hard, Oranje will join South Africa Persian Incursion is basically Iraq v Iran but in the twenties
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In early 1934, a border incursion between South Africa and Zulu risks turning into a far wider war We are in control of the South African Army. Zulu wins if they either lose zero territory, or if they lose Fort Shaka and uMgungundlovu but manage to seize the diamond mines. The goal of South Africa is to capture the coal mines in the north. However, the diplomatic crisis spun out of control and most units are out of position. Only a division in the divided city of Maseru is able to capture the mines at the moment. Zulu guerilla activity makes forward deployment difficult, and although the strongest units in the South African army are prepared in the south, Zulu resistance will not go easily. If Zulu manages to push hard enough to capture the diamond mines, Oranje might intervene. Continued Zulu success in capturing Bloemfontein will result in Scandinavia joining the war. If the South African army collapses Japan will join the war. If East London cannot be recaptured within two turns the scenario ends and the campaign widens. South Africa capturing eThekwini will result in Germany joining the war. If both Germany and Scandinavia/Japan are involved in the war the scenario ends and the proxy war will grow. We will have a crisis mechanic. Here is how it will work. We have three options of how we want to conduct the war. I have a hidden variable that will expand the war further based on completion of the objectives and casualty totals. High casualties will exhaust the will of South Africa, which can lead to revolt among the Boer part of the army. A. Operation Kruger Operation Kruger will involve pushing the Zulu army in the south back far enough to force them to commit to the defense of eThekwini. Slowly, forces will be transferred north and the coal mines will be captured. We will then hold for as long as possible. This will only result in a minor victory if successful. B. Operation Breadbasket Breadbasket encompasses capturing most of the Zulu territory, and then surrounding eThekwini by sea and land, without capturing the city. C. Operation Iron Iron involves a complete capture of Zulu territory, which if held will result in a massive victory, Germans be dammed. Top Hats Monthly fucked around with this message at 12:54 on Apr 15, 2018 |
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Let's ultimately go for plan B.
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# ? Apr 15, 2018 14:00 |
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Breadbasket is the most likely to work out, I believe.
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# ? Apr 15, 2018 15:00 |
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C
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# ? Apr 15, 2018 16:22 |
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C What do we have to fear of the Germans? Properly prepared, each of our bold troops is worth 10 German!
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# ? Apr 15, 2018 16:30 |
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A in a minor power proxy war, identify success and don't overreach
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# ? Apr 15, 2018 16:45 |
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A, We only want the Coal Mines, we only need the Coal Mines. Let us not waste the lives of our South African brothers when we have no need.
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# ? Apr 15, 2018 16:49 |
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A KYOON GRIFFEY JR has it right. Grab what you want and keep it, don't cause world war 3. EDIT: realistically we might need to pull up to eThekwini and umGungundlovu and start shooting into them to get the Zulu gov't to the negotiations table, but I say we should cross that bridge when we get to it. Dance Officer fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Apr 15, 2018 |
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Pick a lucky unit, and a name and you will be the General of that unit. South African Infantry divisions (Of which there are four) This makes up the bulk of the South African army in Zulu. One division is deployed on the outskirts of Maseru, one at Fort Voortrekker, another at Coffee Bay on the border, and one in East London. E: Due to beefing up Zulu unit strength, the attack/defense values of the South African units has changed. "Voortrekker" Special Forces, based out of Fort Voortrekker. This unit will be expected to plunge deep into Zulu territory and blow rail lines, etc. It has the unit symbol for a Division because if other units are destroyed this unit will become a defacto infantry division specializing in recon. South African Armored divisions (Of which there are two) These divisions are equipped with the Char 2C superheavy tank and the FT17 light tank. These units are tasked with smashing defensive Zulu lines, and will be best utilized in the south vs the fixed Zulu positions, rather than the northern hilly and mountainous regions near Bloemfontein. This is a big god drat tank The Royal South African Navy is equipped only with some light cruisers and destroyers. This however, is far more powerful than anything that Zulu will be fielding at the time. The Royal South African Air Force is equipped with various biplanes, with light bombing duty being the main duty of the RSAAF. Zulu does not have an air force. The Japanese Intervention Army is equipped with heavy weapons and tanks, but will only intervene if South Africa is losing or falling to rebellion. Note! Zulu guerillas operate behind our lines, and communists are in our ranks. Communist guerillas may activate in the north. Despite your directive we may have to pull units back from the attack to prevent Fort Voortrekker or East London from being captured. Top Hats Monthly fucked around with this message at 11:57 on Apr 16, 2018 |
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