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I skipped alot of chapters in Mortis and I'm not sorry. E: overall though I'm very happy with the siege
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von Metternich posted:I would also like to know this The Reverie has this ominous gothic horror vibe, so maybe like Bram Stoker's Dracula, or like Hell House by Richard Matheson? Paddyo fucked around with this message at 19:59 on Nov 12, 2021 |
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Nov 12, 2021 19:53
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Waroduce posted:I skipped alot of chapters in Mortis and I'm not sorry. I can't wait to get around to Mortis just to see what everyone is saying is so bad about it.
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Nov 12, 2021 22:37
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AndyElusive posted:I can't wait to get around to Mortis just to see what everyone is saying is so bad about it. its boring op
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Nov 12, 2021 22:40
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:its boring op
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Nov 12, 2021 22:45
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Plucky Brit posted:It's amazing comparing its quality with Saturnine and Warhawk. saturnine continues to blow my wig across the room on rereads. it’s just astonishing at how much abnett’s prose has improved since the eisenhorn/Gaunt’s Ghosts early days. just, like, the writerly craft in that book is so consistently strong, it wows me
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Nov 12, 2021 22:52
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I'm reading Double Eagle by Abnett right now and he somehow makes describing an airfield interesting.
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Nov 12, 2021 23:06
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To be fair, the actual operations of a military airfield are super interesting and he just put some fun characters into that and used it as a reason to stress them out.
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Arquinsiel posted:To be fair, the actual operations of a military airfield are super interesting and he just put some fun characters into that and used it as a reason to stress them out. I feel like a number of people would not actually find it interesting IRL
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Nov 13, 2021 06:15
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Improbable Lobster posted:I feel like a number of people would not actually find it interesting IRL Anything can be made interesting if it’s written well enough, but a high stress high tension workplace of any sort, especially one that has high tech machinery that can very easily explode, and can be highly damaged when it’s coming back? That sounds fairly easy to make interesting. Then you chuck in overlapping responsibilities, bureaucracies and emergencies with some interesting characters and you’re golden. Works the same for an airfield or a munitions factory as a setting.
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Nov 13, 2021 10:58
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Improbable Lobster posted:I feel like a number of people would not actually find it interesting IRL There was a small LARP game where all the players (mostly women afaik) played airbase comms crew during the Battle of Britain, it sounded pretty neat. https://wildwinter.medium.com/wing-and-a-prayer-stress-and-structure-827d0779f872
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Nov 13, 2021 12:05
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thocan posted:I've heard (can't find a source though) that the last few books will eventually be re recorded with Longworth. They're just doing all of the thus-far unrecorded books first. On the one hand, that's good news. On the other hand, I had mentally settled on just reading through the audiobook-gap and finishing with the last three audiobooks because I loving love the series, and now I'm contemplating putting it off for...I assume 2 years by BL standards?
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Nov 13, 2021 13:35
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Duzzy Funlop posted:On the one hand, that's good news. On the other hand, I had mentally settled on just reading through the audiobook-gap and finishing with the last three audiobooks because I loving love the series, and now I'm contemplating putting it off for...I assume 2 years by BL standards? Yeah, I'm in the same space. It sucks, but I enjoy the narration enough that I'm ok riding it out.
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Nov 13, 2021 15:08
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Improbable Lobster posted:I feel like a number of people would not actually find it interesting IRL
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Nov 13, 2021 15:34
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:Anything can be made interesting if it’s written well enough, but a high stress high tension workplace of any sort, especially one that has high tech machinery that can very easily explode, and can be highly damaged when it’s coming back? That sounds fairly easy to make interesting. Then you chuck in overlapping responsibilities, bureaucracies and emergencies with some interesting characters and you’re golden. Works the same for an airfield or a munitions factory as a setting. I'm not disagreeing with that. A good writer can make something more interesting on the page than in reality.
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Nov 13, 2021 22:57
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The thread has sold me that I - a 40k and horror fan - need to read all of the Peter Fehervari books immediately. Is there an order that's recommended other than release order?
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Nov 13, 2021 23:37
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Put me down as another one who is struggling to get through Mortis. I guess Warhawk doesn't come out in paperback until March/April so I got some time.
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Nov 14, 2021 00:11
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AnEdgelord posted:Are there any AoS books that are worth reading? I'm painting up some Stormcast this week and would love some inspiration. I like the new books, Dominion, and Thunderstrike and other stories.
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IshmaelZarkov posted:The thread has sold me that I - a 40k and horror fan - need to read all of the Peter Fehervari books immediately. Is there an order that's recommended other than release order? Have fun https://www.trackofwords.com/2020/10/31/a-travellers-guide-to-the-dark-coil/ And 
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Nov 14, 2021 00:59
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I just wanna say, it’s always bothered me the clean and futuristic aesthetics of the space marines spaceship in Astartes, the one they embark from. It looks like the Rocinante in the Expanse show, not the dank, stone and steel grungy gothic of the 41st millennium. Really misses the mark for me.
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Nov 14, 2021 09:46
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I'm halfway through The Twice-dead King: Ruin and it really goes deep into necron psychology and also there's a surprising amount of body horror in it.
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Nov 14, 2021 09:54
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Angry Lobster posted:I'm halfway through The Twice-dead King: Ruin and it really goes deep into necron psychology and also there's a surprising amount of body horror in it. Yeah i'm slightly past halfway and good lord the way necrons are depicted are incredibly tragic and hosed up Also psychologically unnerving as hell
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Nov 14, 2021 09:58
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:its boring op OMG YES! i havent even goten to the halfway point and its endless drudgery. Like this book is afraid of doing anything interesting and is juggling to many characters and plots. LIKE PICK ONE GODAMN IT AND STICK TO IT!
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Moose-Alini posted:I just wanna say, it’s always bothered me the clean and futuristic aesthetics of the space marines spaceship in Astartes, the one they embark from. It looks like the Rocinante in the Expanse show, not the dank, stone and steel grungy gothic of the 41st millennium. Really misses the mark for me. I found this, too. I don't want to poo poo on the series because it was so important in getting GW stuff back on the map for some people, but the whole thing doesn't feel WH40k to me. It felt like watching a (very cool) video about generic armoured space dudes with guns in a very sterile setting. Whereas the Death of Hope videos are 40k as gently caress. But again, I appreciate the sheer amount of dedication and work that went into Astartes from someone literally doing it as an unpaid hobby and feel like an ungrateful grognard to compare it to something as insane as that or the Inquisitor short film.
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I dunno, if anyone has shiny and clean ships it’ll be the space monks whose gleaming ships and armour are a rare beacon of hope for the Imperium. That, and I thought they acted like Space Marines would, resolute, unyielding and mostly calm super soldiers. Death of Hope was edgy tripe
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:Death of Hope was edgy tripe Yeah, some of it was "look how hosed up I can be" stuff that a 15 yearold would be all about, but it's level of detail, animation, sense of weight and monstrous power of the space marines was perfect and it really captured that "ancient gothic religious crusdae" that 40k needs. Not to mention the actual ridiculous horror of the setting.
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Brendan Rodgers posted:Can anyone recommend some non-Warhammer books that Fehervari reminds them of? Someone elsewhere recommended Revelation Space, I'm about 2/3 in to the book, and it's hitting all the right notes for me so far. Brendan Rodgers fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Nov 14, 2021 |
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Nov 14, 2021 20:20
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Cool, managed to pick up The Founding, The Lost, and Pariah for less than $10 each on ebay. It's nice to find these for a reasonable price.
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Nov 16, 2021 03:49
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Saturnine is really good but Penitent is Abnett's best writing, IMO. He just nails the high-victorian horror aesthetic that makes domestic 40k so much fun to read.
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Nov 16, 2021 16:23
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OPAONI posted:Saturnine is really good but Penitent is Abnett's best writing, IMO. He just nails the high-victorian horror aesthetic that makes domestic 40k so much fun to read. The part where they have an autoseance session where they first raise the ghost and then get invaded by the sorcerers was loving incredibly on the Audiobook. Let us in.
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Warden posted:The part where they have an autoseance session where they first raise the ghost and then get invaded by the sorcerers was loving incredibly on the Audiobook. I love how far back things go with the different factions in Penitent. The Immaterial College being dudes who were on loving Istvaan is wild.
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Warden posted:The part where they have an autoseance session where they first raise the ghost and then get invaded by the sorcerers was loving incredibly on the Audiobook. Oh yeah. That and the race through the catacombs? loving incredible.
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Dog_Meat posted:Bring on Warhawk Sorry for the self quote, but I'm 8% into Warhawk and it's already head, shoulders, chest and groin above Mortis. Jesus, the difference...
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Nov 16, 2021 17:52
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Dog_Meat posted:Sorry for the self quote, but I'm 8% into Warhawk and it's already head, shoulders, chest and groin above Mortis. Jesus, the difference... Mortis is poor as hell. I killed off Pretorian of Dorn today and realised that in doing so I’ve read everything the black library has put out in the Horus heresy series. Every novel, audiobook, short story, novella etc . I’d say “lockdown was good for something!” But I could have read something good. So much turgid, bad bad bad bad SF, not at all outweighing the good and great.
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Yeah Penitent is better than Saturnine (just) but that’s an insanely high bar to hit. I don’t expect there ever to be another BL book as good as Penitent, we’ll be lucky if Pandaemonium comes close.
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I noticed I have the first 10 HH books thanks to humble bundle and I had previously only read a handful back when the books first came out. I'm definitely gonna skip the bad ones but I want to give the series a proper shot before i get into the siege. unfortunately i have terminal robot brains and will read anything about the iron hands
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I liked Penitent (some parts very much so), but I found it a clear step down from the Eisenhorn and Ravenor series. Parts of the book just felt rushed. I remember finding one sentence that made absolutely no sense and was clearly mid-editing when the manuscript was shipped off to print. Two things that annoyed me in particular: -So. Many. Space. Marines. I remember when Eisenhorn encountered the traitor marine in Xenos. That was a huge deal. By the end of Pariah, I had totally lost count of all the different marines and traitor marines around. -Comus Nocturnus is an annoying deus ex machina. Seriously, it seems as if a good 40-60% of Bequin's problems in the book are solved by either I set my limiter to off (seriously: try to count how many times that old trick is used) or I cast summon Comus. I'm a huge Abnett fan, but these things in particular felt off. The way he describes Queen Mab is sublime, however and the scene with the mad astrologer/mathematician is as brilliant as anything he's written. Overall, I felt the book was uneven (though I would absolutely recommend it) and parts of it was not up to the standard I expect from him.
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Nov 17, 2021 14:15
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I liked it well enough, but it wasn't as good as his typical Gaunt's stuff, IMO. The cliff hanger is probably one of my most anticipated in any book so far, tho. There is a lot riding on that.
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I legit gasped like I was reading a Victorian penny dreadful. Had an interesting chat with him about how he got permission to do it, and what a mindfuck it was. Just super enjoyable.
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God, I gotta reread Eisenhorn, and Ravenor and then read The Magos and Pariah. Been sitting on my copy of Pariah since 2012 because I was waiting for the trilogy lol
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