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DoubleNegative posted:Normal mode raids in this are more or less "Can you dodge obvious AOE circles?" and occasionally "Can you turn away from the huge red eye?" They're full of markers you've seen by virtue of just doing story dungeons. You can also watch guides on youtube to get you up to speed on the raid mechanics as well. That's great. My gripe with WoW is that the mechanics are plain unintuitive and unforgiving even on easier difficulty levels.
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Schneider Heim posted:That's great. My gripe with WoW is that the mechanics are plain unintuitive and unforgiving even on easier difficulty levels. That's one thing FFXIV does really well. The design of mechanic visual effects is consistent; if you encountered a similar mechanic before, you know how to handle it. The challenge of new fights is getting different combinations of familiar mechanics, combined with some boss specific unique stuff.
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Feb 26, 2018 13:49
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Unless it's those chains that you sometimes need to split and sometimes need to stack.
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Feb 26, 2018 14:35
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And that paintbrush button that you sometimes don't have to click and sometimes... do? Stop yelling at me.
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Feb 26, 2018 14:45
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Saint Freak posted:Unless it's those chains that you sometimes need to split and sometimes need to stack. To be fair, I think the only time where you stack is ifrit ex? Not many newbies are going to see that these days synced, and unsynced it doesn't matter.
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Truga posted:To be fair, I think the only time where you stack is ifrit ex? Not many newbies are going to see that these days synced, and unsynced it doesn't matter. No idea, mechanics are for healers and ranged dpses. I just keep clicking the enemy.
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Truga posted:To be fair, I think the only time where you stack is ifrit ex? Not many newbies are going to see that these days synced, and unsynced it doesn't matter. It is. That’s the only time flaming chains have to stay close. In every other chain connection it’s run apart to break them. If they had the gumption to do so, changing them to red tethers would fix the problem, but no one actually does ifrit ex anymore outside of just wrecking it unsynced, and the only problem there is pushing him too fast.
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Feb 26, 2018 14:54
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Stop running away from me during Ululation you GODDAMN PUBBIE On the flip side seeing newbies get the thunder marker from five-headed dragon and then running to the edge to die never fails to get a laugh out of me.
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Feb 26, 2018 15:05
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Oxygen Deficiency posted:Stop running away from me during Ululation you GODDAMN PUBBIE In fairness to them, that is also an unusual case since most of the time that mark means "get away from the party". Like Ifrit chains, it could be changed to meet the current standard.
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Feb 26, 2018 15:17
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Saint Freak posted:This guy knew exactly what he was doing btw. He ran and pulled as soon as the cutscene ended and threw himself off a cliff so he didn't have to play and couldn't be kicked. We did like a third of the fight before everyone got convinced to just wipe so we didn't have to carry him, and as soon as we did he bailed. Good poo poo. A+. sounds like some poo poo wow goons love to pull in LFR
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Feb 26, 2018 15:41
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Thundarr posted:In fairness to them, that is also an unusual case since most of the time that mark means "get away from the party". Like Ifrit chains, it could be changed to meet the current standard.
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Feb 26, 2018 15:55
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Thundarr posted:What ends up happening is that I get mad every time Daddy comes first because it means my rotation won't line up as cleanly at several points as it does with Bilbo first. He turns right when I'm supposed to Trick Attack and I know "TRUE NORTH, KWORRA" as my group reminds me but there's really not a ton of breathing room for an extra button in that opener. It's not a killer, but it feels bad. Ban all bosses from slightly turning to the left/right, Square. Do it for all Narutos across Eorzea.
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Feb 26, 2018 16:39
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I think at this point there may be too many Daddies in FFXIV.
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Feb 26, 2018 16:58
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I know there's a mount/minion for dragon dad but is he a part of any furniture/paintings? I'm slowly stockpiling for when I can afford a house thanks to my retainers but so far all I've seen has been dreadwyrm stuff, and I want to pay my respects...
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Concurred posted:I know there's a mount/minion for dragon dad but is he a part of any furniture/paintings? Technically yes? 
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Sick. I guess Keeper of the Lake falls into that same category
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Doom also gets cleared a few different ways, mostly over the course of ARR, but none of this is in particularly difficult content. I think the biggest effect is new players dying a bit in Qarn.
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Archyduke posted:Doom also gets cleared a few different ways, mostly over the course of ARR, but none of this is in particularly difficult content. I think the biggest effect is new players dying a bit in Qarn. Meanwhile, I've had World of Darkness runs where the alliance wipes three times to Angry Mainyu and people start leaving. 
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Feb 26, 2018 19:10
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I've had people wipe on the bomb phase of Labyrinth of the Ancients. 
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Feb 26, 2018 19:14
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:I've had people wipe on the bomb phase of Labyrinth of the Ancients. I don't even know how you wipe on that. Like I don't even know what the mechanic is.
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Feb 26, 2018 19:15
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Kill the bombs that try to go to the middle bomb and kill the Vassagos while keeping them separate. That's it.
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Rosalind posted:I don't even know how you wipe on that. Like I don't even know what the mechanic is. "Kill adds" isn't a mechanic, but, pubbie finder.
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Feb 26, 2018 19:21
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Ive had that happen. Some people just dont kill the bombs.
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Truga posted:To be fair, I think the only time where you stack is ifrit ex? Not many newbies are going to see that these days synced, and unsynced it doesn't matter. you stack for gilgamesh 2 too
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Blockhouse posted:you stack for gilgamesh 2 too There’s a stack mechanic in Sohm Al, too, and I have no idea why they haven’t changed the marker yet. Most people just ignore it.
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I have not had a single run of fractal hard where the white/black Sophia mechanic doesn’t cause the person with the opposite color to run for their loving life away from me. Like I get it, Sophia is optional content and you might not know what to do but I am desperately trying to track you down, shadowing your every move, please believe me!
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Feb 26, 2018 20:24
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:I've had people wipe on the bomb phase of Labyrinth of the Ancients.  The usual failure points for LotA to me seem to be 1) people not standing on the loving pads during the atomos trash, and 2) people not paying attention to ancient flare and killing everyone rather than just themselves. Even those seem to have gone down dramatically once the raid finder got added and people could queue for it quicker.
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ParliamentOfDogs posted:I have not had a single run of fractal hard where the white/black Sophia mechanic doesn’t cause the person with the opposite color to run for their loving life away from me. Like I get it, Sophia is optional content and you might not know what to do but I am desperately trying to track you down, shadowing your every move, please believe me! Accurate for Sophia EX, too. Asimo posted:
I've had these happen almost every time. Sure is fun to have your Trick Attack fail to connect because someone gets off the pad early.
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I run it basically every day and still every single time I have to tell people to get on the drat pad.
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People will usually get on pads, eventually, if you yell enough in alliance chat. Behemoth, on the other hand... Gelmorra Public Radio would like to remind its listeners: never drop your comets inside the Behemoth King's targeting circle. Your uptime is not worth the deaths of half the raid. also the elementals must be destroyed
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ParliamentOfDogs posted:I have not had a single run of fractal hard where the white/black Sophia mechanic doesn’t cause the person with the opposite color to run for their loving life away from me. Like I get it, Sophia is optional content and you might not know what to do but I am desperately trying to track you down, shadowing your every move, please believe me! it always seems to do sophia last and legitimately i have never seen the boss actually get to use any moves from her lol
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RME posted:it always seems to do sophia last and legitimately i have never seen the boss actually get to use any moves from her lol My favorite is when he's copying Sephiroth and everybody 1) drops drops their pools in awful spots and 2) scatters to the winds, making it basically impossible to stack in at the end because of the giant death fields that now separate everybody. vvv a lot of the time I see IG tanked but during the meteor cast the tank panics and runs to a rock, which gets everybody cleaved when the giant follows him. Thundarr fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Feb 26, 2018 |
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Behemoth is the big failure point for LOTA in my experience. The Iron Giants seem to confound every group. They go untanked and slap away all the meteors and cut through the whole alliance. You don't even really need to kill them as long as they aren't allowed to just roam free. Also tanking in the Bone Zone causes wipes but that's always funny.
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I said "welcome to the bone zone" after the tank decided to tank the dragon on the middle platform and several people got mad at me (as a BLM)
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Feb 26, 2018 21:51
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dragging bone dragon to the edge is just trolling, in the year 2018
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Feb 26, 2018 22:14
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Use the one tank's 45 second start timer to discuss whether you should or should not.
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Feb 26, 2018 22:18
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You can bring the bone zone anywhere if you don't dps the skeletons 
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Its still faster to tank it in the middle because then the skellys don't have to run to blow up.
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RME posted:it always seems to do sophia last and legitimately i have never seen the boss actually get to use any moves from her lol IIRC, it's random order. Da'at orbs from Sephirot + a stack, Zurvan's Infinity seals, and Sophia's Sin/Punishment stacks. RME posted:dragging bone dragon to the edge is just trolling, in the year 2018 I had a party do this today. 
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Ma'at orbs from Sephiroth someone's got Jeuno on the brain or maybe it's autocorrect on da'at ending up at the egyptian goddess ma'at but I know which I prefer
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