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There are lazy people out there. We don't need to classify every lazy person as mentally ill. It's probably easy to fall into laziness if you're enabled.
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Mar 31, 2017 16:00
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:the psychiatrist nods, hmms, and checks the box marked "JUST AN rear end in a top hat" on his clipboard
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Leon Einstein posted:There are lazy people out there. We don't need to classify every lazy person as mentally ill. It's probably easy to fall into laziness if you're enabled. mental illnesses are not caused by specific strains of insanity bacteria that the headshrinkers test your bloodwork for, they're clinical descriptions of unhealthy mindsets that, human brains tending to work similarly, can often be treated similarly A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 16:07 on Mar 31, 2017 |
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Mar 31, 2017 16:03
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:the psychiatrist nods, hmms, and checks the box marked "JUST AN rear end in a top hat" on his clipboard Circles it in red pen aggressively
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Milotic posted:My [34F] boyfriend [32M] believes that the average woman in a relationship initiates sex several times a week by putting on lingerie and getting things started. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that 32M has only had one other girlfriend/wife and just assumes the things she was into are the things all women are into A Wizard of Goatse posted:mental illnesses are not caused by specific strains of insanity bacteria that the headshrinkers test your bloodwork for, they're clinical descriptions of unhealthy behaviors and mindsets that, human brains tending to work similarly, can often be treated similarly It generally also describes biological and physiological processes, though. Purely behavioral issues can be mental illnesses but for a layman's purposes they might as well be "chronic laziness" or "terminal rear end in a top hat" if the person is resisting treatment. What do you do about somebody with chronic treatment-resistant dysthymia or somebody with Borderline who doesn't want to be helped? Dick all. Dick all is what you do, because medication does not work and following and responding to treatment is entirely on the person being treated. If he doesn't want to be helped, he can't be helped. It's certainly reductive to call it chronic laziness but if he's refusing to improve and doesn't respond to medication, treating him as a disabled snowflake is not the appropriate response no matter how severe his behavioral disorder is. Mirthless fucked around with this message at 16:13 on Mar 31, 2017 |
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Mar 31, 2017 16:06
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:mental illnesses are not caused by specific strains of insanity bacteria, they're clinical descriptions of unhealthy behaviors and mindsets that, human brains tending to work similarly, can often be treated similarly
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Mar 31, 2017 16:09
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Leon Einstein posted:Yet the people qualified to diagnose mental illness came to the conclusion that he's just lazy. Have you honestly never met anyone that is just plain lazy? Effortophobia is not recognized by the DSM. I'm going to guess it's borderline and all the medical terms completely went over their head, they just drilled down on the "It can't be treated with medication" and "behavioral change is entirely up to him, and he doesn't want to be treated right now" and translated it to "he's just lazy", which isn't really that far from the truth.
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Pvt.Scott posted:haha, I was thinking of the current Queen. What, do you think I'm some sort of filthy papist or something? I guarantee that if her current Maj had died you would have heard about it, 'avoiding the news' or not. Same with the pope even if you're not a papist 
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You don't need to pathologize every rear end in a top hat in existence.
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Mar 31, 2017 16:22
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Leon Einstein posted:Yet the people qualified to diagnose mental illness came to the conclusion that he's just lazy. Have you honestly never met anyone that is just plain lazy? Effortophobia is not recognized by the DSM. Most lazy people aren't lazy to the point of ignoring their survival instinct, so maybe there's actually something mentally going on with this dude who thinks "live on the street with Cheetos" is a good life plan.
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Mar 31, 2017 16:22
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Why can't we discuss the stories as they're told instead of filling in the blanks with whatever we want? Mirthless, you are the worst offender.
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WampaLord posted:Most lazy people aren't lazy to the point of ignoring their survival instinct, so maybe there's actually something mentally going on with this dude who thinks "live on the street with Cheetos" is a good life plan. If he still had Cheetos he wasn't left there long enough.
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Mirthless posted:I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that 32M has only had one other girlfriend/wife and just assumes the things she was into are the things all women are into They can map to biological processes but unless you've got something really exciting the headshrinkers aren't taking an MRI of your brain to see where it's hosed up structurally, they're looking at you sleeping all day and showing no interest in anything and saying "yup this guy is depressed pump 'im full of Xanax and see if that fixes 'im". The go-to mental health treatment for just about everything you're likely to see is cognitive behavioral therapy - they're literally exclusively diagnosing you through behavior, and treating you through coaching you to modify that behavior, and the underlying neurochemical processes driving you in the first place are educated guesswork at best. dysthymia and borderline might not be curable by CBT or an SSRI or adderall in which case 99% of psych is useless to them, but they're still diagnosable, clinical mental illnesses whereas "lazy" is not; and there's a big difference in implied honest attempt to ever understand or resolve the problem between "I went to the doctor and the doctors can't do anything, guy's just always gonna be a shitbag" and "I went to the doctor and they diagnosed my brother in law with extreme fail AIDS". Dude's condition might be totally treatable or it might not, who can say, the OP doesn't give a poo poo A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Mar 31, 2017 |
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54 40 or gently caress posted:Circles it in red pen aggressively "Tell me about your mother," says the psychiatrist as he tunes out the patient and begins doodling an exquisitely detailed male sex.
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Based on the inflection in story they are actually savagely raping the Cheetos brother.
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Some people are pretty strange about gifts. I think it's really nice to receive gifts but I can't imagine being upset for not getting them the right way. My wife [30F] is upset because the "baby" [5 months] didn't get her a birthday gift. I [30M] don't know whether to play along or call her out on the crazyness. quote:My wife and I have been married 4 years, and we just had our first child 5 months ago. On Saturday we were celebrating my wife's birthday (just the three of us). It was a fun day for the most part, and my wife was really happy with everything I did/planned up until I gave her gifts from me. She gets to the last one, and after she realizes that there are no more gifts, her mood seemed to change instantly. She went from really bubbly and happy to very somber.
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Leon Einstein posted:Why can't we discuss the stories as they're told instead of filling in the blanks with whatever we want? Mirthless, you are the worst offender. ...We're discussing the story, though, as it's been told? It's a weird point of detail in the story. How could we not discuss it? I'm "filling in the blanks" (contributing my opinion, framed as an opinion, opened with "I'm guessing...") because I've been through the mental health system a bit, ok? I've also had to deal with plenty of family members who have made some pretty uncharitable assumptions about my illness. What is up with people ITT complaining every time a discussion about a post goes for more than a few one-liner joke comments?
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Mirthless posted:...We're discussing the story, though, as it's been told? It's a weird point of detail in the story. How could we not discuss it? It's because the discussion involves you posting words from your brain
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Mirthless posted:...We're discussing the story, though, as it's been told? It's a weird point of detail in the story. How could we not discuss it? That's what she said!
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:They can map to biological processes but unless you've got something really exciting the headshrinkers aren't taking an MRI of your brain to see where it's hosed up structurally, they're looking at you sleeping all day and showing no interest in anything and saying "yup this guy is depressed pump 'im full of Xanax and see if that fixes 'im". The go-to mental health treatment for just about everything you're likely to see is cognitive behavioral therapy - they're literally exclusively diagnosing you through behavior, and treating you through coaching you to modify that behavior, and the underlying neurochemical processes driving you in the first place are educated guesswork at best. Well, yeah, no argument here on any of this, I'm just saying that most of what we consider mental illnesses are broadly treatable with therapy and often treatable with medication, whereas some mental illnesses are either barely treatable with CBT or completely untreatable altogether. If this case is the latter, I can see where the family would have drawn their conclusions. I don't think it's defensible, mind you, just "I can see how they got from point A to point B on this" I Was The Fury posted:It's because the discussion involves you posting words from your brain Cool, I'm not gonna stop posting in this thread so if you guys don't want to see words from my brain go post somewhere else, there's literally dozens of boards and thousands of other threads to post in
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:Some people are pretty strange about gifts. I think it's really nice to receive gifts but I can't imagine being upset for not getting them the right way. In the spirit of the thread, I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that there is some Disney merch in this household
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:Some people are pretty strange about gifts. I think it's really nice to receive gifts but I can't imagine being upset for not getting them the right way. uhhhh what
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:Some people are pretty strange about gifts. I think it's really nice to receive gifts but I can't imagine being upset for not getting them the right way. some of these are pretty chilling in that a presumably normally intelligent, perceptive person managed to marry and put a baby in someone this loving crazy without realizing they're this loving crazy before it was too late
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"Tell me about Mirthless," says the psychiatrist as he tunes out the patient and begins doodling an exquisitely detailed male sex.
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:some of these are pretty chilling in that a presumably normally intelligent, perceptive person managed to marry and put a baby in someone this loving crazy without realizing they're this loving crazy before it was too late Most serious mental illnesses present between your mid-20s and early-30s and can be triggered by major life events, so it's possible she was completely sane going into this and pregnancy hormones triggered what was lying just below the surface. It could happen to anybody. 
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Mirthless posted:Cool, I'm not gonna stop posting in this thread so if you guys don't want to see words from my brain go post somewhere else, there's literally dozens of boards and thousands of other threads to post in I mean I don't mind you posting your discussions because if it's too many words I just scroll past, I was just answering your question about why people always complain about discussions on the posts. Me [34F] with my Husband [36 M/] 11 years, financial infidelity This story is not worth reading, basically the husband is a scammer who has taken money from family and friends for his "business" and fake "car repairs" but I thought this part was good: quote:Side note: Recently I was ranting about what a liar Trump was during the healthcare debacle and husband offhandedly said to me "oh, he's just a salesman" (husband's career). I know it's crazy but that makes this seem so much worse too.
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:Some people are pretty strange about gifts. I think it's really nice to receive gifts but I can't imagine being upset for not getting them the right way. On the one hand parents giving each other gifts "from the kids" is incredibly common and lol at how confused the guy is by the concept. On the other actively getting depressed for over a week about it is incredibly weird.
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Ouhei posted:On the one hand parents giving each other gifts "from the kids" is incredibly common and lol at how confused the guy is by the concept. On the other actively getting depressed for over a week about it is incredibly weird.
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Yea, he had already gotten her gifts, she literally just wanted him to claim that one was from "the baby" because hormones made her nutso.
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Splicer posted:"Tell me about Mirthless," says the psychiatrist as he tunes out the patient and begins doodling an exquisitely detailed male sex.
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:Some people are pretty strange about gifts. I think it's really nice to receive gifts but I can't imagine being upset for not getting them the right way. Like, benefit of the doubt, my take on this is that the husband/a family member/somebody did not get her something and sign it "To Mom From The Baby" with adorable chickenscratch and backwards B etc etc. I really really really hope this woman isn't upset that her not-yet-crawling child was not able to purchase a gift for her with funds acquired through labor or sale of goods.
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Buzkashi posted:Like, benefit of the doubt, my take on this is that the husband/a family member/somebody did not get her something and sign it "To Mom From The Baby" with adorable chickenscratch and backwards B etc etc. I really really really hope this woman isn't upset that her not-yet-crawling child was not able to purchase a gift for her with funds acquired through labor or sale of goods.
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Nothing says theyre humans. If I was a xenomorph queen and my five month old child forgot my birthday Id be mad enough to bite their head off.
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Forget it Jeffrey, it's r/relationships
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:Some people are pretty strange about gifts. I think it's really nice to receive gifts but I can't imagine being upset for not getting them the right way. It doesn't seem like that big of an issue. Maybe she came from a family where that was normal or maybe she's just feeling weird about being a mother and getting a year older. Who knows. Just buy her a locket with the a picture of the mom and baby or something. Unless she's crazy in other areas, who cares? She's not the first mother to eventually lose her poo poo over something like this. flick my Mr. Bean fucked around with this message at 17:13 on Mar 31, 2017 |
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Buzkashi posted:I really really really hope this woman isn't upset that her not-yet-crawling child was not able to purchase a gift for her with funds acquired through labor or sale of goods. 
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