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Horsebanger
Jun 25, 2009

Steering wheel! Hey! Steering wheel! Someone tell him to give it to me!
How viable is it to get into T1 industry or T2 industry/invention nowadays? I have a few bill lying around and a spare character I can train and would like to make isk without ratting/mining.

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Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011
There are a whole bunch of posts in the last couple of pages about bootstrapping into T2 industry

Floppychop
Mar 30, 2012

I'm training up a carrier alt and think I'm going for the Minmatar line. I know Gallente carriers are the 'best', but the Thanatos is ugly.

FruitNYogurtParfait
Mar 29, 2006

Sion lied. Deadtear died for our sins. #VengeanceForDeadtear
#PunGateNeverForget
#ModLivesMatter

capn posted:

I know elusif was always offering to take people's characters when they felt like leaving. If you gave it to someone they may have given it to him to sell

quote:

[7:18 PM] Elusif "Employed Volt" Garinald: i never sold that pilot
[7:18 PM] beep pollution: i said "elusif is really easy to find but if he had access to your characters they'd have been sold or banned by now "
[7:18 PM] Elusif "Employed Volt" Garinald: i sold only a few characters the rest got banned when i got taken down
[7:18 PM] Elusif "Employed Volt" Garinald: yeah that
[7:18 PM] Elusif "Employed Volt" Garinald: basically

Rudeboy Detective
Apr 28, 2011


Floppychop posted:

I'm training up a carrier alt and think I'm going for the Minmatar line. I know Gallente carriers are the 'best', but the Thanatos is ugly.

The Gallente and Minmatar carriers and supercarriers are, by far, the most popular two in their respective classes. I'm not sure you can really go wrong with either.

The Minmatar pair are arguably better ratting ships, for when Delve gets safe-ish again. The Thanatos is our primary combat carrier and strikes a good balance between damage, tank, and utility. The armor Nids we use own bones too. We fit them with a bunch of omnidirectional tracking links so they chew up subcaps. The Nid is also the best looking carrier (suck it Archon fans)

Floppychop
Mar 30, 2012

Rudeboy Detective posted:

The Gallente and Minmatar carriers and supercarriers are, by far, the most popular two in their respective classes. I'm not sure you can really go wrong with either.

The Minmatar pair are arguably better ratting ships, for when Delve gets safe-ish again. The Thanatos is our primary combat carrier and strikes a good balance between damage, tank, and utility. The armor Nids we use own bones too. We fit them with a bunch of omnidirectional tracking links so they chew up subcaps. The Nid is also the best looking carrier (suck it Archon fans)

Cool, I'm not sure I'll ever get a supercarrier though since I'm space-poor and apparently smooth-brained when it comes to making isk.

mpaarating
May 6, 2011

The Baddest Boi

Elusif still owes me like 10B or something. Hope he's been enjoying those shoes all these years later.

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



SpaceDrake posted:

The problem is that Delve is going to be poor for "small gang" stuff because the enemy's entire war plan calls for n+1; they will ALWAYS want to outnumber you, overwhelmingly. loving around is a great way to make them freak out and drop poo poo on you, but for getting ~good fights~ you'll really need to at least get out to Querious and Period Basis, if not cross the great void into the central south and go to Catch or Immensea.

Some of the frigate fits with all the new trig goo and whatnot are evidently loving hilarious, but yeah, Delve is probably a poor place for it right now. You deffo want to hit up Delta and the other folks doing stuff in the bads' backyards.

how do i join up with them and/or who should i contact to do so?

Dalmuti
Apr 8, 2007
please review the Delta Sqad Corporate Vision Statement: https://bit.ly/2XzXqoC

get those badgers moving to w6v

Micromancer
Apr 17, 2002

He went out to the store
and when he got back
Roll-marks said .22 Short, jack.
If anything I could say that
this gun was rare
Its covered it sweat,
toilet water, and hair

SpikeMcclane posted:

It's more for something dumb to do as I'm learning how the game even works. I guess I'll try to get more UI and utility stuff sorted tomorrow and then see how far I can get. And inevitably swear revenge against whoever blows me up.

Brutus Duran and Ishtar Jesus killed my stratios with event poo poo and skins two and a half years ago when I did this and I can safely say no amount of revenge is enough.

Zephirus
May 18, 2004

BRRRR......CHK
Tonight on the M2- hellcamp, we killed a variety of capitals that got fed up being camped in and decided to throw themselves onto our bubbles (including a ghost minokawa that got killed for the second time), then there was nothing happening, so story time happened.

Dude was asking questions about the Bob disband and it was pointed out that Haargoth fuckin Agamar was in fleet so they got a recollection of events from the literal source.

100% worth losing Eve.

Micromancer
Apr 17, 2002

He went out to the store
and when he got back
Roll-marks said .22 Short, jack.
If anything I could say that
this gun was rare
Its covered it sweat,
toilet water, and hair
I'm legit upset I missed that storytime

Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!

Micromancer posted:

I'm legit upset I missed that storytime

DARPA
Apr 24, 2005
We know what happens to people who stay in the middle of the road. They get run over.

Micromancer posted:

I'm legit upset I missed that storytime

You aren't the only one. Did a recording get posted?

Rudeboy Detective
Apr 28, 2011


I was down in no chatter during it and was totally oblivious. Gosh, I miss all the good poo poo.

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011

Micromancer posted:

I'm legit upset I missed that storytime

Fanelien
Nov 23, 2003

it was a good storytime, our camps are so chill it's not funny.

Solus
May 31, 2011

Drongos.

Solus
May 31, 2011

Drongos.
Dank test alliance leaks courtesy of elysium

quote:

@here
Great job tonight guys so far.

even though that first fight didn't go our way the numbers we pushed out in 3-4 fleets at once tonight have been really solid and its a good sign of things to come.

If you lost ships, make sure to replace them. If you used jump clones, make sure to replace them.

Things are starting to move, bit by bit as we regain our footing and the enemy's inertia from M2- begins to dissipate.

Over the next few days things will likely be more on the quieter side but we still have some big objectives to secure as they come.

Keep kicking rear end and taking names, your doing exceptionally well pushing through a rough patch here and our resilience as a group is starting to really shine through.

Incredibly proud of you all and lets keep rockin.

#### SENT BY Vily to OP Military

MrTargetPractice
Mar 17, 2004

I thought the whole resists thing was some weird in joke meme that I missed from being away from the game fo rso long.

Lo and behold the first profile of a rando I pulled up today.



Do people not know how to google things? I don't get it.

MrTargetPractice fucked around with this message at 06:48 on Jan 14, 2021

Micromancer
Apr 17, 2002

He went out to the store
and when he got back
Roll-marks said .22 Short, jack.
If anything I could say that
this gun was rare
Its covered it sweat,
toilet water, and hair
I've wondered but not enough to check if it's easier to look at your own bio or the in game notepad

PathAsc
Nov 15, 2011

Hail SS-18 Satan may he cleanse us with nuclear fire

PISS TAPE IS REAL

Solus posted:

Dank test alliance leaks courtesy of elysium

~inertia dissipate~

It's Wednesday dipshit vily, and you're still getting trounced. I ended up doing a fuckload of prework for some house poo poo, and hoping to get it sorted before the weekend so I can play a bunch.

Frida Call Me
Sep 28, 2001

Boy, you gotta carry that weight
Carry that weight a long time

Zephirus posted:

Tonight on the M2- hellcamp, we killed a variety of capitals that got fed up being camped in and decided to throw themselves onto our bubbles (including a ghost minokawa that got killed for the second time), then there was nothing happening, so story time happened.

Dude was asking questions about the Bob disband and it was pointed out that Haargoth fuckin Agamar was in fleet so they got a recollection of events from the literal source.

100% worth losing Eve.

Man I got scammed into shooting structures in hisec and I missed this, shucks. Was cool to see him on a random moomin fleet the other day.

Dieting Hippo
Jan 5, 2006

THIS IS NOT A PROPER DIET FOR A HIPPO

Micromancer posted:

I'm legit upset I missed that storytime

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



my favorite storytimes i've been there to hear or read are from the multiple former test members who left because test treats their line members like dogshit and all of them are like 'man i can't believe how great goonswarm treats me'

SpaceDrake
Dec 22, 2006

I can't avoid filling a game with awful memes, even if I want to. It's in my bones...!

Floppychop posted:

I'm training up a carrier alt and think I'm going for the Minmatar line. I know Gallente carriers are the 'best', but the Thanatos is ugly.

You take that back right the gently caress now. :mad:

(I fear I will never be spacerich enough to own a Nyx privately.)

---

Speaking of salt, here's some more salt from the combat leader of BRAVE as he tries to blame CCP rather than his own leadership team's poor decision-making for the situation BRAVE now finds itself in:

http://dunkdinkle.com/ccps-dilemma/

The grand irony is that I think he has something approaching a point, though he's coming at it from the wrong angle and those of us who have been following EVE since loving 2001 were discussing it even back then — player wealth, desire for conflict & interaction, and ease of transport (via Titan Nerdcannons etc) has made the Highway Paradox, the paradox of induced demand, a more acute crisis for EVE than it's been at any point since maybe 2007 and the first BoB War era.

Without hurfing too many blurfs (because I'm not sure how ready the thread is for me to really hurf), the more capacity CCP adds to individual star systems, the more sweaty nerds will pack in. If M2- could've supported all 12,000 nerds who wanted in with no trouble jumping in, everyone involved would try to pile in 18,000. If it could support that many, basically the entire server would try to pile into one system for the ultimate showdown of ultimate destiny. If M2- could support all 35,000+ active average players of EVE in one system, everyone would get in touch with their old friends and help them get back online to continue piling in. There's so much accumulated wealth, so many lapsed players who could return to contribute after eighteen years, and so many ways to get around now that no matter how wide CCP makes the highway, the playerbase will still find a way to reach capacity+1. It's a fascinating conundrum and it's hard to say what exactly the best "solution" might be.

(For the record, as a veteran of the beta tests and poo poo, 2021 EVE consistently blows my mind with how it performs. Maybe it shits itself when you have 6k people on grid, but Back In My Day even a hellcamp the size of M2-'s would've been a little rough, never mind large gangs warping in on it, but so far the server's never missed a beat even when the camp gets engaged by dozens or a hundred+ ships and there's a thousand angry nerds in local. These 6k hellwars we're discussing were literally inconceivable when I was last playing in a dedicated fashion.)

SpaceDrake fucked around with this message at 07:36 on Jan 14, 2021

redbrouw
Nov 14, 2018

ACAB
I'm being incredibly :shobon: right now but I flew my little Kirin with a Jackdaw op and talked on mumble for the first time ever and it was great.

I'm not even remotely a shy person, I just couldn't bring myself to say in fleetchat that I was that new and the FC sussed me out anyway to call me out for an isk bomb.

Anyway, I enjoyed logi and I think I'll do it full time until the war ends.

Duzzy Funlop
Jan 13, 2010

Hi there, would you like to try some spicy products?

Rudeboy Detective posted:

I remember a video Xenuria made in that era that was 15 solid minutes of him complaining about goons, interrupted only by his mom yelling to ask him if he wanted some mini tacos.

Prencleeve was funny, Xenuria was just weird.

Wasn't Xenuria the one to buy an SA account to set up some dumb infiltration/publicity attempt where he asked about his fake roleplaying corp "Marcabian somethingorsomesuch" in here while literally having "counterintelligence specialist" under occupation in his profile before defaulting to really weird and cringeworthy Mittens-callout videos from his bedroom?

Floppychop
Mar 30, 2012

SpaceDrake posted:

You take that back right the gently caress now. :mad:

Not a chance, it's the ugliest carrier in the game, no contest :colbert:

Nyx, however, is one of the coolest.

PathAsc
Nov 15, 2011

Hail SS-18 Satan may he cleanse us with nuclear fire

PISS TAPE IS REAL

Floppychop posted:

Not a chance, it's the ugliest carrier in the game, no contest :colbert:

Nyx, however, is one of the coolest.

Nyx is best and someday I'll be able to fly one with a cool skin and fighters and hell yeah.

Nyan Bread
Mar 17, 2006

Floppychop posted:

Not a chance, it's the ugliest carrier in the game, no contest :colbert:

Nyx, however, is one of the coolest.

Hear hear. While Thanny helps fill the ranks of ugly-rear end ships along with the Ferox, Osprey, Rapier, Broadsword, and the fugliest king - the Drake, Nyx on the other hand looks like an entire floating space precinct with that police skin.

Aaron Static
Aug 24, 2007

Listen to my music on Spotify

Roller Coast Guard posted:

Is that the actual Aaron Static or did he give away his character?

It's me, I'm the astat in the br

Aaron Static fucked around with this message at 08:30 on Jan 14, 2021

PathAsc
Nov 15, 2011

Hail SS-18 Satan may he cleanse us with nuclear fire

PISS TAPE IS REAL

I will fly a giant space mushroom dick and release its essence into the passpi

SpaceDrake
Dec 22, 2006

I can't avoid filling a game with awful memes, even if I want to. It's in my bones...!

Floppychop posted:

Not a chance, it's the ugliest carrier in the game, no contest :colbert:

Nyx, however, is one of the coolest.

Acceptable.

PathAsc posted:

Nyx is best and someday I'll be able to fly one with a cool skin and fighters and hell yeah.

:hfive: Hell yeah.

And uh, I guess I'll mention that the "get SpaceDrake/Andre into a Nyx he can fly with GalCarrier 5" fund is always taking donations. :v:

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

MrTargetPractice posted:

I thought the whole resists thing was some weird in joke meme that I missed from being away from the game fo rso long.

Lo and behold the first profile of a rando I pulled up today.



Do people not know how to google things? I don't get it.

I thought the same thing, so I made up my own list of resists and put them into the bio of my PVP-alt.

I had that joke-bio for years until I finally got too embarassed and replaced it with a real backstory

PathAsc
Nov 15, 2011

Hail SS-18 Satan may he cleanse us with nuclear fire

PISS TAPE IS REAL

SpaceDrake posted:

Acceptable.


:hfive: Hell yeah.

And uh, I guess I'll mention that the "get SpaceDrake/Andre into a Nyx he can fly with GalCarrier 5" fund is always taking donations. :v:

Yeah, funding a super looks daunting as gently caress to me but once I'm done with these last few booster skills I'm going to dive in.

It's funny that it'll be easier for me to skill into a titan than a supercarrier because of all the loving fighter skills.

SpaceDrake
Dec 22, 2006

I can't avoid filling a game with awful memes, even if I want to. It's in my bones...!

PathAsc posted:

It's funny that it'll be easier for me to skill into a titan than a supercarrier because of all the loving fighter skills.

Oh, the fighter skills.

Oh, the fighter skills. :negative:

(I am glad I trained Fighters 5 back in the day, at least; completing the class skills gives me access to the T2 fighters.)

West007
Apr 21, 2013

I've been toying with the idea of resubbing my would be cap pilot to continue his training. He has been sitting in jita with a set of +5s. He has around 9m SP mostly in support/drone skills. Is there an easily importable cap swarm skill plan for a thanatos?

What I did so far was put the fit into pyfa and copy required missing skills which puts it at 63d minimum requirements. I suspect a fully capswarm ready pilot would take at least triple the amount of time.

Solus
May 31, 2011

Drongos.
What super? I can send you the evemon training plan

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PathAsc
Nov 15, 2011

Hail SS-18 Satan may he cleanse us with nuclear fire

PISS TAPE IS REAL

SpaceDrake posted:

Oh, the fighter skills.

Oh, the fighter skills. :negative:

(I am glad I trained Fighters 5 back in the day, at least; completing the class skills gives me access to the T2 fighters.)

I somehow didn't have skills for ewar drones until this week, wtf was I even doing? I think I'll do the shorter titan training first, gotta buy those skill books first though and wow they ain't cheap at all.

West007 posted:

I've been toying with the idea of resubbing my would be cap pilot to continue his training. He has been sitting in jita with a set of +5s. He has around 9m SP mostly in support/drone skills. Is there an easily importable cap swarm skill plan for a thanatos?

What I did so far was put the fit into pyfa and copy required missing skills which puts it at 63d minimum requirements. I suspect a fully capswarm ready pilot would take at least triple the amount of time.

Check in the GF forums, there was a thread I followed before that had the skills. I'll see if I can find it too.

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