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idontpost69 posted:Sam Lake 2 seems like a nice little game but excessive quirkiness, boring enemy design, and an undeserved crossover shared universe, that's 3 strikes for me. Maybe I'll pick it up in a steam sale in a couple years.
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# ? Oct 30, 2023 02:01 |
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# ? Jun 6, 2024 07:09 |
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what the gently caress is "excessive quirkiness"
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# ? Oct 30, 2023 02:02 |
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idontpost69 posted:Sam Lake 2 seems like a nice little game but excessive quirkiness, boring enemy design, and an undeserved crossover shared universe, that's 3 strikes for me. Maybe I'll pick it up in a steam sale in a couple years. More like ishouldntpost69
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# ? Oct 30, 2023 02:03 |
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and why does a game need to "deserve" to be connected to other games by the same director/dev team
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# ? Oct 30, 2023 02:03 |
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SirSamVimes posted:and why does a game need to "deserve" to be connected to other games by the same director/dev team yeah I don't get this complaint at all lol.
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# ? Oct 30, 2023 02:08 |
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The connection of Control and Alan Wake 2 has actually felt pretty smooth so far. Its not some MCU-esque "HEY HEY LOOK AT THE THING FROM THE OTHER THING"
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# ? Oct 30, 2023 02:13 |
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I imagine shared universes feel more cohesive when every single entry in them shares a director.
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# ? Oct 30, 2023 02:14 |
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Its especially weird to complain about it when the level of crossover is at basically the same level as Buffy showing up on Angel for an episode or The Lone Gunmen mentioning Mulder and Scully (probably a more apt comparison). There's some stuff you might miss the broader context on if you didn't play control but it's hardly necessary. Also really appreciating the approach of less enemies used to greater effect rather than the hordes of dudes in black stink clouds bum rushing from AW1.
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# ? Oct 30, 2023 02:20 |
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If anything I want more crossover. The FBC isn’t trying nearly hard enough, wake me up when they drain Cauldron Lake and ship it all to The Oldest House, then we’ll talk.
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# ? Oct 30, 2023 02:20 |
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More like Alan WANK am I right fellas
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# ? Oct 30, 2023 02:37 |
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Alan Woke more like it. I hear it has a woman in it you see
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# ? Oct 30, 2023 02:56 |
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FreudianSlippers posted:Alan Woke more like it. even worse... a black woman
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# ? Oct 30, 2023 03:02 |
Bussamove posted:If anything I want more crossover. The FBC isn’t trying nearly hard enough, wake me up when they drain Cauldron Lake and ship it all to The Oldest House, then we’ll talk. Yeah they are pretty hands off for a lake of water that can make you see the future and summon monsters with a pencil
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# ? Oct 30, 2023 03:03 |
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Orb Crabmelt posted:Isn't he just Takashi-san from the lighthouse? Is it? He looks kinda different but it might be.
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# ? Oct 30, 2023 03:57 |
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SirSamVimes posted:even worse... a black woman And she tells a man what to do! No gamer is safe.
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# ? Oct 30, 2023 04:27 |
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Bussamove posted:If anything I want more crossover. The FBC isn’t trying nearly hard enough, wake me up when they drain Cauldron Lake and ship it all to The Oldest House, then we’ll talk. the luck & probability department's been hogging the budget this year
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# ? Oct 30, 2023 04:29 |
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honestly given the poo poo they did to the Ordinary site I'm surprised they *haven't* drained the lake at this point
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# ? Oct 30, 2023 04:30 |
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Here is a Pathologic 2 steam key for anyone that wants it: VMH5E-9YR9R-W3R48
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# ? Oct 30, 2023 04:49 |
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I really do not understand why Alan Wake 2 has so much creative freedom and budget. I didn't think Control was that successful that Epic would pour so much money into Sam Lake finally getting to make the game he has always wanted to make. I mean I'm not complaining, but why?
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# ? Oct 30, 2023 04:54 |
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SirSamVimes posted:I really do not understand why Alan Wake 2 has so much creative freedom and budget. I didn't think Control was that successful that Epic would pour so much money into Sam Lake finally getting to make the game he has always wanted to make. It's the closest thing the epic store has to a half life 2 Fortnighters aren't buying stuff on the store
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# ? Oct 30, 2023 04:57 |
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Whirling posted:Is it? He looks kinda different but it might be. Could be different or could be the same guy but drawn off-model, which is feasible. Or maybe he looks like an overworked shlub while he's out collecting jars of blood and cherished memories from people (i.e., his day job), but when you get a couple drinks in him, raise the doom level a bit, and hand him a cult mask, he perks up like a freshly watered tomato plant?
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# ? Oct 30, 2023 04:58 |
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Basic Chunnel posted:Bloober games are pure hackwork, but Remedy games are very much an aging product of the late 90’s — not just in their combat mechanics, but in the way that, like most every other nerd of that time, their takeaway from the commercial and critical success of Tarantino movies was that a deep knowledge of your genre referents was not just necessary to make something good out of them, but sufficient. Tarantino made elevated genre pulp look so easy that everybody who came after him fell headlong into reverent pastiche. Alan Wake is a great example. Miserable rear end mfer
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# ? Oct 30, 2023 05:01 |
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Also part of the reason Alan Wake and its sequel specifically aren't just thoughtless homages is because they're explicitly about the creative process, the search for the "perfect" story when you have self-doubt about even being able to make anything decent, and how art itself is ultimately just a confluence of influences where you struggle to find your own identity within a sea of subconscious impulses born from all the stuff that made the biggest impression on you as a budding artist. The Dark Place is a very direct metaphor in that regard, and the games are definitely about just taking joy in the creative process and learning to accept your love for art and what you want to make as it is, without loathing yourself for failing to be a paragon of originality. You can tell it's very personal for the writers and obviously the most personal for Sam Lake himself, who started his career in earnest with a game that was specifically an overwrought homage. I think that makes their games beautiful and gives them an aura of honesty and sincerity because they deeply want to make the games they develop and aren't embarrassed to wear their influences on their sleeve, even if there are a bunch of joyless purists who think absolutely everything needs to defy its influences by distancing itself as much as possible. The Alan Wake games are just a big, big hug to all the self-doubting artists out there, telling you not to be embarrassed about what you love or the things you dream of creating the most.
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# ? Oct 30, 2023 05:08 |
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nowhere has alan wake 2's commentary struck deeper than the very end where alan is surrounded by people manically screaming out five-star review blurbs of his work like a sentient goodreads section. so much worse/more unnerving than if they'd been savaging it instead
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# ? Oct 30, 2023 05:13 |
SirSamVimes posted:I'm not sure what makes it so fun as hell because the actual gameplay is really simplistic but something about the atmosphere and writing and general vibe of the game just elevates it. Sometimes simplistic gameplay is fine. Tetris owns.
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# ? Oct 30, 2023 06:48 |
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Crossposting from AW2 thread but stuff like this does harm the experience a little. Maybe this is why you should always wait for a patch https://youtu.be/0pibWmmYl9g?si=kX4QylovKise1goA
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# ? Oct 30, 2023 06:50 |
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Blockhouse posted:what the gently caress is "excessive quirkiness" "Surprising in a way that makes me feel insecure"
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# ? Oct 30, 2023 08:47 |
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Well gang, I'm playing SCORN. I don't know that I'd actually classify it as survival horror. More like... a sightseeing tour through some of the most luxuriously realized Giger-inspired industrial body horror artwork you can imagine. The combat is very clunky and best avoided whenever possible, so maybe it is survival horror after all. It's not very scary though, not even with headphones in the dark. It's straight-up amazing to look at and wander through, though. Hot tip for those of you in Denmark: Someone hosed up the regional pricing on the deluxe version of Scorn in the Epic Games store, so it's permanently 90% cheaper than it's supposed to be (40 DKK instead of 400). Right now it's on sale for 16. Instant Grat fucked around with this message at 09:32 on Oct 30, 2023 |
# ? Oct 30, 2023 09:29 |
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Well I'd be enjoying Dead Space Remake more if it wasn't straight-up broken. There's a loading bug that can cause enemies to disappear and items to fall through the floor. Reloading a save usually fixes it, unless you're in Chapter 10 where it triggers regularly, and reloading saves in certain places gets you a black screen. And apparently this bug has existed since it released.
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# ? Oct 30, 2023 09:33 |
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Well I'd be enjoying Dead Space Remake more if it wasn't straight-up broken. There's a loading bug that can cause enemies to disappear and items to fall through the floor. Reloading a save usually fixes it, unless you're in Chapter 10 where it triggers regularly, and reloading saves in certain places gets you a black screen. I started playing it yesterday since it was on gamepass and I haven't had that particular bug, but I've twice had a cutscene fail to trigger and thus completely lock me out of the game. I read somewhere else that there's a bug that completely disables the enemy AI for a given section, which sounds great for ammo conservation but not so much for gameplay. Also been playing 𝚆𝙾𝚁𝙻𝙳 𝙾𝙵 𝙷𝙾𝚁𝚁𝙾𝚁, it's good but the default Skeptic playthrough absolutely does not prepare you for the real thing. I breezed through a couple of playthroughs on it then hit quick play on Cultist, and was dead before I reached the end of the first mystery. Still a fun game, looking forward to dying in new and inventive ways!
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# ? Oct 30, 2023 11:51 |
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dregan posted:I started playing it yesterday since it was on gamepass and I haven't had that particular bug, but I've twice had a cutscene fail to trigger and thus completely lock me out of the game. I read somewhere else that there's a bug that completely disables the enemy AI for a given section, which sounds great for ammo conservation but not so much for gameplay. If it's like what happened to me, it'll start occurring around the time you have to re-visit Medical.
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# ? Oct 30, 2023 11:58 |
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SirSamVimes posted:and why does a game need to "deserve" to be connected to other games by the same director/dev team Seeing Laura Palmer in the background in Mulholland Drive and immediately calling the police
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# ? Oct 30, 2023 12:03 |
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Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:
It's just a video game. You don't need to write a thesis on it.
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# ? Oct 30, 2023 13:11 |
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Panderfringe posted:It's just a video game. You don't need to write a thesis on it. yeah. it's hosed up that that guy wants to discuss games in the games forum
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# ? Oct 30, 2023 13:28 |
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I don't see why it's not ok for a person to write words about their thoughts of a game they like or dislike. Just agree or disagree with them! What is with telling them off for being enthusiastic lol
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# ? Oct 30, 2023 13:32 |
Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:Also part of the reason Alan Wake and its sequel specifically aren't just thoughtless homages is because they're explicitly about the creative process, the search for the "perfect" story when you have self-doubt about even being able to make anything decent, and how art itself is ultimately just a confluence of influences where you struggle to find your own identity within a sea of subconscious impulses born from all the stuff that made the biggest impression on you as a budding artist. The Dark Place is a very direct metaphor in that regard, and the games are definitely about just taking joy in the creative process and learning to accept your love for art and what you want to make as it is, without loathing yourself for failing to be a paragon of originality. This may be true but I honestly prefer it as not. There's a *lot* of media that is self-referential in that way and it comes off as very masturbatory, and I think that if AW is intended that way then it doesn't escape that trap. I think it works more as a meta thing for a character in a story rather than a personal story about fulfillment as a writer. Honestly if we want to take that tack then I'd probably lay it down on the side of what creation means in terms of your responsibility for your creation. The actions of people around the Lake makes so much shrapnel that hurts everyone in the area, and Wake is no different. Even when he wasn't trying to directly magic his wife back to life he still created something that went on to have a negative effect once it left his hands, and feels the need to fix it. I think the sequel is leaning into that with the Cult of the Woods, a group that took his work and ran with it, making something horrifying out of something he made for cash and now feels responsible for. It works both in the sense of writers who are horrified when their work inspire something horrifying and also creatives who make something that they feel they can just go "It's just a story bro" when people express concern about it. I get that the "writer's journey" meta plot fits better with reality since Alan Wake's novels are basically Max Payne but it's just my view on it from a storytelling standpoint. The Saddest Rhino posted:I don't see why it's not ok for a person to write words about their thoughts of a game they like or dislike. Just agree or disagree with them! What is with telling them off for being enthusiastic lol Haven't you heard that earnestness is a crutch CuddleCryptid fucked around with this message at 13:59 on Oct 30, 2023 |
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# ? Oct 30, 2023 13:57 |
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I think it's a decent post
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# ? Oct 30, 2023 14:06 |
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I think even a big Remedy fan probably has to admit that the game where live action Sam Lake mugs the Max Payne face to the camera is probably a little masturbatory
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# ? Oct 30, 2023 14:09 |
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That's what Remedy fans paid money to see.
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:I think even a big Remedy fan probably has to admit that the game where live action Sam Lake mugs the Max Payne face to the camera is probably a little masturbatory yeah but IMO it works here since it adds to the weirdness of that scene, the crowd goes wild but Alan still has no idea wtf is going on.
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