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Nessus posted:Like, there's almost certainly a Mormon planet, for instance; it is just that the Mormons probably have no problem being contributing members to the Federation. Hopefully it worked out better than the Mormon colony in Starship Troopers.
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Cythereal posted:Man, the Crossfield bugs me in STO. It just doesn't look like it belongs in the same era as the 1701, the Reliant, and the other ships of that era. The third one is a little derpy, but the second one is a legitimately good TOS era design. Did they ever include the simple, elegant single-engined scout/destroyer from the Technical Manual ? 
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The more I look at it the more that STO fatship looks like it was influenced by cardassian design. It's like if the Titan or something had a baby with one of those cardie space planaria
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mllaneza posted:The third one is a little derpy, but the second one is a legitimately good TOS era design. Nope. The TOS era ships from STO are the Connie, then the Pioneer starter ship that's the top of those three screenshots. Then three ships for each Federation ship archetype in the game - the canon Daedalus class as the science vessel, the Perseus class (second picture) escort, and the Gemini class (third picture) cruiser. The Pioneer is fluffed as a small multi-purpose frigate in the vein of the later Miranda, a small and inexpensive stablemate to the Constitution. The Perseus is a small, fast, heavily armed destroyer, very much a TOS equivalent of the Defiant. The Gemini is the Constitution's big brother, a heavy Starfleet battlecruiser for times of crisis. One thing I like about STO is that once you hit the rank of Captain, the available ships are among the most iconic in the franchise. For Federation captains, you have your choice of the Galaxy, Intrepid, or Defiant classes. Klingon players are mostly hosed, but the TNG-era Vor'cha is one of their three options. And Romulan players can either borrow one of their chosen ally's ships at this tier, or fly the vaunted D'Deridex. Admiral tier is a mixed bag. The Sovereign and Prometheus classes are available to the Federation, and the Negh'var for the Klingons, but the rest are all Cryptic designs. There are subsequent endgame quality variants of all of these ships, of course.
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Tunicate posted:Someone post the voth dongship It's a rabbit, not a dildo. Get your sex toys straight. 
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WHY BONER NOW posted:They teach calculus to like 6 year olds in Next Generation, seems like if you're living as a street rat there'd be a huge gulf in knowledge TBH the core concepts behind calculus are not too complicated for elementary school, it's the algebra that makes calculus hard.
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Generally speaking the hardest part of most math is the math that you have to know to even begin studying it
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Cythereal posted:It's a rabbit, not a dildo. Get your sex toys straight.  Surely someone at some point in the design process had to point that out Right?
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Big Mean Jerk posted:
You assume the people in charge give a gently caress that it looks like a sex toy. 8one6 fucked around with this message at 09:03 on Jan 28, 2018 |
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Jan 28, 2018 08:56
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Or it wasn't intentional by a bored artist.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:
It's true to Roddenberry's vision
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Cythereal posted:Nope. The TOS era ships from STO are the Connie, then the Pioneer starter ship that's the top of those three screenshots. Then three ships for each Federation ship archetype in the game - the canon Daedalus class as the science vessel, the Perseus class (second picture) escort, and the Gemini class (third picture) cruiser. You forgot the Ranger.
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Delthalaz posted:Also hard to imagine Worf studying that hard but whatever. Bit earlier in the thread, but... let's not forget that early Worf pulled a phaser on a viewscreen. There must be some kind of fast track for the special kids
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The STO 8th anniversary event is giving away a Bajoran interceptor (not the raider from that one DS9 episode that Kira and Dax jumpstart, but the bigger defence ship mentioned in dialogue a few times) retrofitted with modern circa 2409 equipment. Its stats look brilliant -- five forward weapon slots instead of the usual four for escorts and two pilot specialization bridge officer seats. drat thing's gonna be a glass cannon. I'd like to get one of the T6 (top level endgame -- usually overkill, as upgraded T5 ships are more than enough for endgame content) Constitutions, slap the movie era model on it, and give it a full set of Undiscovered dual beam banks (which basically look the more aggressive pulse-ish phaser beams from The Wrath of Khan) but holy hell they're insanely expensive. 8one6 posted:You assume the people in charge give a gently caress that it looks like a sex toy. This too. Cryptic seems to just have fun making STO an actually decent game now and drat the rest. The story stuff has been getting dramatically better, to the point of them just stripping out and remaking all of the older, crappier bits. The models and textures are improving massively (the Federation ones in the past few years are the work of basically two dudes and they do fantastic work). Dildoship is just part of the charm of the game these days. Kazinsal fucked around with this message at 13:53 on Jan 28, 2018 |
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Kazinsal posted:The STO 8th anniversary event is giving away a Bajoran interceptor (not the raider from that one DS9 episode that Kira and Dax jumpstart, but the bigger defence ship mentioned in dialogue a few times) retrofitted with modern circa 2409 equipment. Its stats look brilliant -- five forward weapon slots instead of the usual four for escorts and two pilot specialization bridge officer seats. drat thing's gonna be a glass cannon. Now if only they'd have the nerve to punish or kill Sela for starting a war that killed tens or hundreds of billions and damned countless more people to being genetically modified into slave servitor races we'd be set, but her voice actress is cheap and her son plays the game.
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What is gameplay in that game anyways? All battles or are there missions and the like? I'm currently playing Mass Effect so my bar is p high.
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It's been a while but I remember it being poorly implemented MMO combat for away missions, and well implemented full-3D MMO combat for ship battles.
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cheetah7071 posted:It's been a while but I remember it being poorly implemented MMO combat for away missions, and well implemented full-3D MMO combat for ship battles. The ground combat's been improved significantly from launch, but it's still not as interesting or fun as the rather good ship combat - and no surprise the lion's share of the game's attention and big battles are focused on space stuff. Moriatti posted:What is gameplay in that game anyways? All battles or are there missions and the like? There are lots of missions, there's a pretty extensive story campaign. You can play as the Federation, Klingons, or Romulans, though all three stories converge after a certain point. There's still usually different intro and outro dialogue in shared mission arcs for the different factions, though, and Romulan players further either join Starfleet as an exchange officer or the Klingon Defense Force - the Romulans are something on the order of a half faction, though they still have their own unique ships. There's also a TOS Federation start, where you begin in the 23rd century before you get caught up in the Temporal Cold War, in case you love TOS - you get to keep the TOS uniforms, get a different TOS-themed UI, and a lot of your ground and starship animations remain TOS-themed even once you're catapulted into the 25th century. The current ongoing story arc just got a new episode last week, and it's about a war with the Tzenkethi that now has drawn in the Dominion and the Hur'q.
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Dog_Meat posted:Bit earlier in the thread, but... let's not forget that early Worf pulled a phaser on a viewscreen. There must be some kind of fast track for the special kids Makes you wonder what O'Brien would have thought, seeing these over-confident academy meat heads looking down on the NCOs for never meeting Boothby or taking the Kobayashi Maru. Maybe the fast-track is just for security types? Then again Tuvok's no idiot.
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Cythereal posted:The ground combat's been improved significantly from launch, but it's still not as interesting or fun as the rather good ship combat - and no surprise the lion's share of the game's attention and big battles are focused on space stuff. Please don't use this thread to proselytize.
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Arglebargle III posted:Please don't use this thread to proselytize. I never said STO was a good game. 
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Arglebargle III posted:Please don't use this thread to proselytize. dumb fun video game is dumb fun
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Please don't call an mmo fun. There might be impressionable young people around.
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STO was genuinely getting good back when Legends of Romulus came out but they shot themselves in the foot with greed when Delta Rising came out and it's sucked again since then. That said I play it anyway because it lets me play space barbie and also I've conditioned my brain over the decades to release happy chemicals when I see Federation starships. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Jan 29, 2018 |
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I don't hate the front of this as much as I should, but the back is killing me.
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dont even fink about it posted:I don't hate the front of this as much as I should, but the back is killing me. It looks like a ship that would be commanded by Admiral Hyperriker.
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One thing you can do in STO: put the TOS hull material on the Crossfield.    (With limits: the TOS hull on other ships tends to have too much black due to the way the materials/trim system works ingame)
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I’ve got to Ezri Dax’s arrival in my DS9 watchthrough. She’s like the template for Tilly in Discovery.
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That poo poo has some long rear end nacelles
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Brawnfire posted:That poo poo has some long rear end nacelles It has to or it ends up looking really squat due to its width and flatness. The original concept release had that problem.
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MikeJF posted:I've conditioned my brain over the decades to release happy chemicals when I see Federation starships. Goddamn it, this is not the place to discuss your masturbatory habits.
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MikeJF posted:One thing you can do in STO: put the TOS hull material on the Crossfield. Still not a fan, but it’s amazing how much better it looks without the awful Eaves aztecing.
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I think it's very funny and apropos that the new Star Trek hero ship is black and gunmetal. They managed to hold back the first suicide bomber to episode 6 lol!
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Arglebargle III posted:I think it's very funny and apropos that the new Star Trek hero ship is black and gunmetal. They managed to hold back the first suicide bomber to episode 6 lol! Funny thing about STO is, black and gunmetal has been a hull color option for Federation ships from the beginning. Every Federation ship in the game has at least four hull colors: a plain white scheme, slate grey, a soft blue-green, and black and gunmetal that everyone always derided as the wannabe edgy color scheme. Lo and behold...
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I just finished up TNG the other day. I had never seen an episode of Star Trek before. I dabbled a few episodes of TOS before deciding to move to TNG, and am ultimately glad I ended up watching TNG first. I watched every episode in order. At first I was a bit weary and ready to be dismissive, but TNG has placed itself in my top shows of all time now that I’m finished with it. I was going to type a long winded post of opinions, but I am lazy. So instead I’ll just say that Seasons 1-3 were good but had a handful of episodes each that were pretty weak. Most notably Shades of Grey, which was an abominable turd of an episode. Seasons 4-7 were consistently good every episode with only a tiny fraction that weren’t great; very few. Darmok was my favorite episode I think. And while I misjudged it early at first Lower Decks became a favorite too. My memory may bit blurry on exactly which episodes belong to which season but I’m pretty sure Seasons 5 And 7 were the best of the series. I thought the Borg were cool, but became pretty lame after a while. I liked the series finale, and it’s a shame there weren’t more episodes with Q. Data is obviously the stand out character of the series. Ok so what next. DS9 or TOS?
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Windows 98 posted:Ok so what next. DS9 or TOS? DS9
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DS9 is the natural continuation to TNG, since it's both a chronological continuation and reexamination of the world established there.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Still not a fan, but it’s amazing how much better it looks without the awful Eaves aztecing. TOS hull, fill in the saucer and make it a bit bigger, raise up the nacelles a bit on struts, it could be good.
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