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therobit
Aug 19, 2008

I've been tryin' to speak with you for a long time

Mirthless posted:

lol

i wonder why that statement is past tense

Because sometimes higher pay is available outside of management if you want to shift gears. I can't believe it is controversial to not want to step in between the relationship drama of two employees at a business. It would be really poor judgment to try and get your romantic rival in trouble at work because you lost the game and your girl left you. Someone trying to do that us going to be a problem. I could see if they just wanted to advise that there is a tense dynamic because something happened, but seriously people need to learn to leave that poo poo at the door or move on to greener pastures if they can't. And yes, part of being a professional and an adult is being abe to work with people you don't like.

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COMRADES
Apr 3, 2017

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

A Wizard of Goatse posted:

it'd be fairly trivial with the poo poo you're talking about, happens pretty regularly, they'll probably notice when you start googling "how to hack office" on your work computer

I've had jobs where I have access to the financial and credit card information of literally thousands of people and if I took that and dumped it from a public library computer onto 4chan there is literally no way they would know I did it or be able to prove it even if they suspected and it would have absolutely been a major poo poo show for the company involved.

therobit posted:

Because sometimes higher pay is available outside of management if you want to shift gears. I can't believe it is controversial to not want to step in between the relationship drama of two employees at a business. It would be really poor judgment to try and get your romantic rival in trouble at work because you lost the game and your girl left you. Someone trying to do that us going to be a problem. I could see if they just wanted to advise that there is a tense dynamic because something happened, but seriously people need to learn to leave that poo poo at the door or move on to greener pastures if they can't. And yes, part of being a professional and an adult is being abe to work with people you don't like.

Pff alright, bourgie apologist.

Mirthless
Mar 27, 2011

by the sex ghost

A Wizard of Goatse posted:

come now I'm sure the taco stand has enough of a background turnover to not notice one shift manager, he got canned for entirely other reasons

Me [17 M] with my mother [54 F] wouldn't change shirt, argument escalated

this is like that story with the autistic guy and his sister's ponytail except the autistic kid focused on the most insanely weird details isn't the worst person in the story this time

therobit posted:

Because sometimes higher pay is available outside of management if you want to shift gears. I can't believe it is controversial to not want to step in between the relationship drama of two employees at a business. It would be really poor judgment to try and get your romantic rival in trouble at work because you lost the game and your girl left you. Someone trying to do that us going to be a problem. I could see if they just wanted to advise that there is a tense dynamic because something happened, but seriously people need to learn to leave that poo poo at the door or move on to greener pastures if they can't. And yes, part of being a professional and an adult is being abe to work with people you don't like.

uh dude somebody cheating in a long term relationship isn't the same thing as competing for somebody's affection and you're a really, really terrible person if you can't see this difference

staying professional means keeping your dick in your pants when your coworker's partners are in the room

maskenfreiheit
Dec 30, 2004

A Wizard of Goatse posted:

it'd be fairly trivial with the poo poo you're talking about, happens pretty regularly, they'll probably notice when you start googling anarchist's cookbook protips on your work computer

or they track down your social media, where you white knighted about the various ways you would gently caress over any employer who crossed you :jerkbag:

COMRADES
Apr 3, 2017

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Oh yeah I definitely inform all my employers about my socialist tendencies and give them all my various social media information so they can better track me. No one ever does anything malicious to a company and gets away with it ever!

Mirthless posted:

uh dude somebody cheating in a long term relationship isn't the same thing as competing for somebody's affection and you're a really, really terrible person if you can't see this difference

staying professional means keeping your dick in your pants when your coworker's partners are in the room

and/or if you really can't not keep your dick in your pants, tell the guy instead of carrying on some 4 month long deception about it. Why would you want that kind of person working for you?

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

to be fair to therobit he probably had comrades under him squeaking all day in his puberty-cracked voice about how his fists were registered as deadly weapons with the state and that'd melt anyone's brain eventually

A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Apr 5, 2017

Mirthless
Mar 27, 2011

by the sex ghost

COMRADES posted:

Oh yeah I definitely inform all my employers about my socialist tendencies and give them all my various social media information so they can better track me. No one ever does anything malicious to a company and gets away with it ever!


and/or if you really can't not keep your dick in your pants, tell the guy instead of carrying on some 4 month long deception about it. Why would you want that kind of person working for you?

because therobit only hires REAL MEN who TOOK THE RED PILL

COMRADES
Apr 3, 2017

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Treat your employees like poo poo, get poo poo in return. That's not a hard concept.

I had jobs where I was grossly underpaid given what I was doing, so I just stole product/money from the company. Didn't get caught even after years of doing it and I was even considered a very good employee.

:shrug:

:capitalism:

therobit
Aug 19, 2008

I've been tryin' to speak with you for a long time

Mirthless posted:

this is like that story with the autistic guy and his sister's ponytail except the autistic kid focused on the most insanely weird details isn't the worst person in the story this time


uh dude somebody cheating in a long term relationship isn't the same thing as competing for somebody's affection and you're a really, really terrible person if you can't see this difference

staying professional means keeping your dick in your pants when your coworker's partners are in the room

They weren't married, and the op didn't own her. It is lovely and sucks, buy thems the breaks. Why let it ruin your job too? I'm not excusing the person she cheated with or whatever, but it is a personal matter.

COMRADES
Apr 3, 2017

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

therobit posted:

They weren't married, and the op didn't own her. It is lovely and sucks, buy thems the breaks. Why let it ruin your job too? I'm not excusing the person she cheated with or whatever, but it is a personal matter.

It is a personal matter but the business matter is the fact that you have an employee who a) has no issue creating personal problems in the work area by pursuing coworkers' SOs, and b) has no issue lying for months on end about it while at the same time being the 'shoulder to cry on' so to speak.

If you think someone like that isn't going to ever cause any other problems ever then hahahaha.

Cough Drop The Beat
Jan 22, 2012

by Lowtax

COMRADES posted:

I've had jobs where I have access to the financial and credit card information of literally thousands of people and if I took that and dumped it from a public library computer onto 4chan there is literally no way they would know I did it or be able to prove it even if they suspected and it would have absolutely been a major poo poo show for the company involved.

What kind of major financial institution doesn't have basic data security practices and auditing in place? Sure, it would be really easy to dump customer data at any major financial institution, but that's about it. They would know who did it and when and where it was done within minutes. You would almost certainly be in handcuffs within a few hours in such a scenario. There is no way in heck you would get away with it long-term.

the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

A Wizard of Goatse posted:

come now I'm sure the taco stand has enough of a background turnover to not notice one shift manager, he got canned for entirely other reasons

Me [17 M] with my mother [54 F] wouldn't change shirt, argument escalated

I read this twice and couldn't find anything about a shirt???

COMRADES
Apr 3, 2017

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Cough Drop The Beat posted:

What kind of major financial institution doesn't have basic data security practices and auditing in place? Sure, it would be really easy to dump customer data at any major financial institution, but that's about it. They would know who did it and when and where it was done within minutes. You would almost certainly be in handcuffs within a few hours in such a scenario. There is no way in heck you would get away with it long-term.

Did I say I worked at a major financial institution? No, I didn't. I said I worked for companies where I had access to sensitive financial and CC information for thousands of customers.

It's cute that you think your information is so secure, though, as if banks don't have major security breaches all the time. As if Wells Fargo didn't just get caught fabricating thousands of accounts for years.

Mirthless
Mar 27, 2011

by the sex ghost

therobit posted:

They weren't married, and the op didn't own her. It is lovely and sucks, buy thems the breaks. Why let it ruin your job too? I'm not excusing the person she cheated with or whatever, but it is a personal matter.

if you were this person's employer you would be doing exactly that thing

"it's perfectly acceptable to look for dating prospects in your co-worker's partners, and I will punish your coworkers if they complain about it" is what your stated position on this is. What do you think that is, if not excusing the behavior?

maskenfreiheit
Dec 30, 2004

COMRADES posted:

I've had jobs where I have access to the financial and credit card information of literally thousands of people and if I took that and dumped it from a public library computer onto 4chan there is literally no way they would know I did it or be able to prove it even if they suspected and it would have absolutely been a major poo poo show for the company involved.

Most libraries I've been to require you sign in with your library card, or show an ID.

If you use your laptop, your mac address (a unique ID) may be stored. If your laptop pulls down data from any service tied to your name, that will out you. Same goes for if your phone is set up with their wifi.

If they go full Serial they can even start pulling cell tower records and see which employees were in the vicinity.

There's also cameras in/around more libraries - and if you dump "literally thousands" of credit card numbers, the secret service will check them.

That's not even getting into the aspect of them recording your download of the info. Those Waymo brogrammers thought they could just DL some files on the slty... let's see how that worked out.

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

Fullhouse posted:

I read this twice and couldn't find anything about a shirt???

I think it's the part where only faggots wear orange but that whole goddamn thing reads like a Gummo outtake

quote:

It has never gotten as bad as physical violence but there was an incident when I was like 8 and my father had me lie to my mother about the existence of my half-sister for months and when my mother found out she yelled at me for hours and eventually came up to my room with our .22 we used to own and threatened to shoot herself infront of me.

There was also an incident a few months ago when I got my new phone and the phone part of my phone wasn't working (Wouldn't transmit voice or receive sound when making calls.) I was on edge and she took the phone out of my hands and started messing with it, so I rudely snatched it back and she spent the next three hours calling county officials about what would happen to me if she abandoned me.

maskenfreiheit
Dec 30, 2004

Mirthless posted:

if you were this person's employer you would be doing exactly that thing

"it's perfectly acceptable to look for dating prospects in your co-worker's partners, and I will punish your coworkers if they complain about it" is what your stated position on this is. What do you think that is, if not excusing the behavior?

I don't think anyone's talking about punishing the guy who got cucked. I'd expect they'd tell him he can have a transfer and/or instruct the coworker to ONLY communicate about work related matters.

(Edit: Unless we've taking the position that the cucker not being punished is some sort of punishment)

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Every mandated manager training Ive ever taken would tell you to get one or the other reassigned.

Im also laughing heartily at the concept of people leaving personal problems at the door when we live in a world where people routinely get fired for drunken at work antics or in the case of one person i worked with so racist and stupid thay after being fired for teling a racist joke at her previous job would tell people at her new ones she was fired for being racist for telling a joke then telling everyone there unbidden the joke that got her fired.

COMRADES
Apr 3, 2017

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Bro I'm telling you I've worked for places that have the CC numbers and account passwords just stored in a plain text format. The world is not as secure as you think it is and there are a myriad of ways a disgruntled employee can cause monetary losses to your business even if you're 100% right and they couldn't leak sensitive info in any circumstance.

Treat your employees well, or you get poo poo in return.

Cough Drop The Beat
Jan 22, 2012

by Lowtax

COMRADES posted:

It's cute that you think your information is so secure, though, as if banks don't have major security breaches all the time. As if Wells Fargo didn't just get caught fabricating thousands of accounts.

Uh, I just said that the actual act of dumping customer information is very easy. But a Wells Fargo employee evading their IT security auditors when they very quickly find out what happened and who do it is virtually impossible. Learn to read, idiot.

Mirthless
Mar 27, 2011

by the sex ghost

COMRADES posted:

Did I say I worked at a major financial institution? No, I didn't. I said I worked for companies where I had access to sensitive financial and CC information for thousands of customers.

It's cute that you think your information is so secure, though, as if banks don't have major security breaches all the time. As if Wells Fargo didn't just get caught fabricating thousands of accounts for years.

if your company works with anyone's financial data there are laws in place about this and they take those laws extremely seriously. there is no way they wouldn't have a digital footprint of what you did.

maskenfreiheit posted:

I don't think anyone's talking about punishing the guy who got cucked. I'd expect they'd tell him he can have a transfer and/or instruct the coworker to ONLY communicate about work related matters.

(Edit: Unless we've taking the position that the cucker not being punished is some sort of punishment)

therobit literally said he would fire the person who was cheated on if the person dared to complain about it

COMRADES
Apr 3, 2017

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Cough Drop The Beat posted:

Uh, I just said that the actual act of dumping customer information is very easy. But a Wells Fargo employee evading their IT security auditors when they very quickly find out what happened and who do it is virtually impossible. Learn to read, idiot.

K and the employees in question that were caught just got fired and that was it. Idiot.

Mirthless posted:

if your company works with anyone's financial data there are laws in place about this and they take those laws extremely seriously. there is no way they wouldn't have a digital footprint of what you did.

Oh well if there are laws in place surely no one would accidentally violate them through incompetence or laziness :v:

maskenfreiheit
Dec 30, 2004

COMRADES posted:

Bro I'm telling you I've worked for places that have the CC numbers and account passwords just stored in a plain text format. The world is not as secure as you think it is and there are a myriad of ways a disgruntled employee can cause monetary losses to your business even if you're 100% right and they couldn't leak sensitive info in any circumstance.

Treat your employees well, or you get poo poo in return.

Bro I'm well aware of that.

I'm just telling you that it's not as simple as you think, and while there's a decent chance you could send a bunch of discover cards to Julian Assange, there's also a decent chance you'd somehow slip up and take a ride in the 4chan party van.

(Especially since they're going to ask HR who in the organization might be disgruntled)

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all

A Wizard of Goatse posted:

come now I'm sure the taco stand has enough of a background turnover to not notice one shift manager, he got canned for entirely other reasons

Me [17 M] with my mother [54 F] wouldn't change shirt, argument escalated

Orange is a pretty faggoty color for a shirt. Also:

I'm gay.

COMRADES
Apr 3, 2017

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

maskenfreiheit posted:

bro i'm well aware of that. I'm just telling you that it's not as simple as you think, and while there's a decent chance you could send a bunch of discover cards to Julian Assange, there's also a decent chance you'd somehow slip up and take a ride in the 4chan party van.

Alright fair enough, you probably know more about it.

I'll remember that for the future and do other things in the unlikely event that I'm in such a situation. I wouldn't dump a bunch of random people's info anyway, they didn't do anything to me. It was just an off the cuff "ooh I'd try to gently caress you over bad" comment.

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maskenfreiheit posted:

I don't think anyone's talking about punishing the guy who got cucked. I'd expect they'd tell him he can have a transfer and/or instruct the coworker to ONLY communicate about work related matters.

(Edit: Unless we've taking the position that the cucker not being punished is some sort of punishment)

I certainly didn't get that impression from therobit's posts. To me it sounded as though he's advocating a total hands off, not my place to do anything about it, deal with it or you're the problem approach.

Mirthless
Mar 27, 2011

by the sex ghost

COMRADES posted:

K and the employees in question that were caught just got fired and that was it. Idiot.


Oh well if there are laws in place surely no one would accidentally violate them through incompetence or laziness :v:

hey I'm not saying 100% it was or wasn't true in your case, I'm just saying, in the vast majority of cases people who work with the CC data of others aren't going to gently caress around with the security of that data. Maybe if you're working for a small business, but the more employees and more business your company gets, the more closely the company is scrutinized.

COMRADES
Apr 3, 2017

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

fruit on the bottom posted:

I certainly didn't get that impression from therobit's posts. To me it sounded as though he's advocating a total hands off, not my place to do anything about it, deal with it or you're the problem approach.

That was how I read it, too, thus the disgruntlement fantasizing.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Mirthless posted:

because therobit only hires REAL MEN who TOOK THE RED PILL

How many people have you, personally, signature-on-the-paper made the final decision to hire or fire?

I'm north of 200 to hire, around 20 to fire depending on how you count it. Interested in sharing experiences about being responsible for workplace conduct.

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

http://tiny.cc/4vwbky

Mirthless
Mar 27, 2011

by the sex ghost

Subjunctive posted:

How many people have you, personally, signature-on-the-paper made the final decision to hire or fire?

I'm north of 200 to hire, around 20 to fire depending on how you count it. Interested in sharing experiences about being responsible for workplace conduct.

yeah I need to be a hiring manager to make these judgements, totally

hey guys we can all pack it in, we can't comment on things we haven't personally done and since we're presumably not all in total train wreck relationships we have absolutely no room to comment on them better just close the thread everybody

Tiny Deer
Jan 16, 2012

If you want revenge against a company the first step is not to tell a soul, including on the Internet. Especially on the internet.

But I will say if you carry your cellphone with you while committing a crime in this day and age you deserve to get caught. Leave your goddamn electronics at home.

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

Subjunctive posted:

How many people have you, personally, signature-on-the-paper made the final decision to hire or fire?

I'm north of 200 to hire, around 20 to fire depending on how you count it. Interested in sharing experiences about being responsible for workplace conduct.

lol way to identify yourself fucko, here comes one sick ping from nmap :twisted:

zakharov
Nov 30, 2002

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Please post content and end this very boring derail

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Mirthless posted:

yeah I need to be a hiring manager to make these judgements, totally

hey guys we can all pack it in, we can't comment on things we haven't personally done and since we're presumably not all in total train wreck relationships we have absolutely no room to comment on them better just close the thread everybody

I mistook you for your conjoined posting twin, Wizard, who I didn't see you contradict

A Wizard of Goatse posted:

lol how many people do you have firing power over big guy

therobit
Aug 19, 2008

I've been tryin' to speak with you for a long time

Mirthless posted:

if your company works with anyone's financial data there are laws in place about this and they take those laws extremely seriously. there is no way they wouldn't have a digital footprint of what you did.


therobit literally said he would fire the person who was cheated on if the person dared to complain about it

My position is that I wouldn't want to keep anyone around who would expect to get thier coworker in trouble at work over that poo poo. If they wanted to re assigned, that is best for everyone probably. If the girlfriend stealer tried to rub it in or get the cuck fired, they would also be someone you would want to let go. Sorry I made too strong a statement for you on this dead comedy internet forum.

Nazzadan
Jun 22, 2016



Content to end literally the most boring derail we have had so far
My [25M] girlfriend [23F] is unwilling to travel because parents won't allow her.

quote:

I have asked my girlfriend of 6 months to attend a wedding with me in South America. As she is an adult woman I was under the impression that if she wanted to go then we would have no problem flying their together. She consulted with her parents and after they said no because it is "dangerous" she said that she is not allowed to go. Am I wrong to find this ridiculous that a 23 year old person cannot go somewhere without their parent's consent (she lives at home)? Is this reasonable grounds to end a relationship? I am tired of her needing parent's permission to do anything. I feel like this is some teenager drama not a problem a 23 year old woman should be having. If she had said "I can't go due to work" or some other reason it would be a non-issue, but I just find this situation silly.
tl;dr - 23 year old girlfriend needs parental approval for many things. I find it crazy and want to know what I should do.
Edit:
Sorry I left out big details - she works full time, went to college, has a good job, but lives at home.
If it helps add some context it's an Asian family. I think some of these issues might be cultural differences whereas my family is from South America and we are very lax about everything including relationships, marriage, etc.
Update:
Just broke it off with her when she decided to call me. That really did not play out how I would have liked. Apparently, I'm "the only one" who finds her situation unreasonable. Oh well, thanks for help folks. Life is too short to be worried about petty stuff.

La Brea Carpet
Nov 22, 2007

I have no mouth and I must post
LOL, lede buried in this one. Also, middle management derail is the worst derail.

[23 M] am worried my girlfriend [22 F] is only dating me for my dog.

quote:

Hi reddit, kinda new so I'm not sure if I'm formatting this right. Bear with me.
I recently met a girl at my local dog park while I was walking my [4 M] chocolate lab, Chip. She approached me and asked if she could pet him. I said yes, of course. We talked for some time and I quite quickly realized I really liked her so I asked for her number.

Fast-forward and we've been dating for two months now. I've noticed she only seems interested in hanging out at my apartment, where Chip is. When we watch movies together, she prefers to cuddle with Chip and I have to settle for leaning against them. If I suggest going out she looks distressed and makes excuses, usually coming back around to "It's so much comfier here".

Last Friday (our scheduled movie night) I even had my mom petsit Chip at her house. When my girlfriend arrived, she was immediately combative. "Where is Chip?" "Why didn't you tell me he wasn't here?" "Did you ask him if he was okay with staying at your mom's?"

Sometimes when I ask her a question she answers me by looking at Chip and giving her reply in a patronizing tone, as if she was so proud of him for even being able to ask a question like that.

Now she's saying we should move in together and I'm starting to question if she will even pay attention to me at all once she doesn't need me around. I don't want to break up with her, she's the first girlfriend I've ever had. What do I do?

tl;dr: My girlfriend likes my dog more than she likes me! What do I do?

La Brea Carpet fucked around with this message at 23:16 on Apr 5, 2017

Mirthless
Mar 27, 2011

by the sex ghost

La Brea Carpet posted:

LOL, lede buried in this one. Also, middle management derail is the worst derail.

[23 M] am worried my girlfriend [22 F] is only dating me for my dog.

quote:

"Did you ask him if he was okay with staying at your mom's?"

:stare:

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Nazzadan
Jun 22, 2016



My [25f] boyfriend [28m] of 2 years doesn't want me starting a colony of cockroaches in our basement. Honestly, it's not as bad as it sounds.

quote:

So this is nowhere near as serious as a lot of the other stories on here, but I'm completely out of ideas and I hope you bright, charming people can help me out.
A few months ago, I adopted a neglected lizard (with my boyfriend's enthusiastic consent) and have been nursing it back to health. In the process I have gone through a lot of feeder bugs. And by "a lot" I mean about $200 a month's worth. I knew about the costs going in, and am prepared to keep paying whatever it takes to keep my little guy properly fed, but I also wouldn't mind cutting down on my monthly bug costs.
Enter the roaches. For those not familiar with reptiles, one of the best food options for many species is the dubia roach, a noiseless, flightless, mostly odorless bug that can't climb smooth surfaces and won't reproduce in temperatures under 90F. They're also extremely easy to breed, and an established colony is basically a never-ending supply of free bugs. This is a thing I want in my life.
Problem is, my boyfriend, who has been actively involved in my lizard-raising efforts thus far, has put his foot down when it comes to a storage bin of cockroaches living under the stairs. He would never see them, because he never goes in that particular closet. It wouldn't cost him anything, and he'd never have to touch them. Still, he won't budge. I've tried everything I can think of to convince him, but since he pays the rent I don't have much leverage.
I love my boyfriend and would never bring a bunch of live animals into our home if he wasn't okay with it. Still... $200 a month is a lot to spend on something other people pay to get rid of.
tl;dr: Bugs for pet lizard are expensive. I want to grow my own. Boyfriend says no because cockroaches. How do I change his mind?
EDIT: Should probably clarify some things: the lizard is a rescue with different nutritional needs than other, healthy individuals. His feeding program has been carefully monitored from the beginning by an experienced reptile vet, and he has constant access to a variety of healthy veggie options. I can assure you all that he is very well cared for.
I do appreciate the concern, though. Not being sarcastic- there's a lot of misinformation out there about exotics, and it's heartening to see people speaking out and setting the record straight.
Thanks for the feedback, especially from all you non-reptile owners. I guess I've gotten so used to handling various creepy crawlies that I've become immune to the "creepy" part.

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