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Can you photogs with iPhones explain this article on action shooting apps to me?: https://itunes.apple.com/us/story/id1374025942 It just looks like horrible poo poo, given the examples?
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May 21, 2018 21:57
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kimbo305 posted:Can you photogs with iPhones explain this article on action shooting apps to me?: Looks like a dumb gimmick that makes no sense. "slow shutter cam" is the opposite of what you need to freeze action, you need lightning quick shutter speeds that are not possible with a phone and probably never will be. Not sure what they are trying to accomplish with that.
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May 21, 2018 22:08
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That looks like garbage poo poo. It appears they're taking a burst sequence photos and overlaying them with each other and messing with opacity to create a motion blur type effect, and doing it really poorly. It's a curious idea that was maybe worth creating a proof of concept for, but the results make it clear they never should have made an app out of it.
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May 21, 2018 22:11
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May 21, 2018 22:24
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xzzy posted:That looks like garbage poo poo. The app was more meant to imitate long exposure shots (including ones made with an ND filter), rather than panning shots, imo
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May 21, 2018 22:33
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drgitlin posted:You just be watching a different series to me then. Formula E is most certainly garbage racing- the cars are bad, the tracks are bad, gently caress THE GIMMICKS and really there is no redeeming value in trying to sit down and watch ugly cars pfffffft in single file. Even the so called highlights package is boring as gently caress.
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May 21, 2018 23:00
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Watch the support race this year and think “wow some stupid rear end in a top hat I know online worked on designing that”
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May 21, 2018 23:26
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BlackMK4 posted:The app was more meant to imitate long exposure shots (including ones made with an ND filter), rather than panning shots, imo That's all well and good besides the fact that long exposure for motorsports is pretty much useless. Unless it's a night race like during Sebring and you want to make a bunch of light trails and poo poo, otherwise there's no point. I get what they're trying to do, it just doesn't work and looks very artificial.
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May 21, 2018 23:51
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Right there with you
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May 22, 2018 00:02
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Larrymer posted:
Compare and contrast Project Binky with B Is For Build's current M5-in-a-S30-Z project. That said, he's *doing something*, which is somewhat more than me. Hello Spaceman posted:By the time you could afford one there might not be any left. Pretty much. Eh, I'll just buy/built 4 of something else, most likely.
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May 22, 2018 00:08
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Every time I'm blown away by Nick's fab work. They have quite a few slick tricks to get stuff done that always make me smile. The plasma cutter circle cutout this time was pretty awesome.
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BlackMK4 posted:Right there with you If you want to get decent shots at a motorsports event you need a DSLR, a fast lens, and good technique. The hardest thing to learn is the sweet spot where you have just enough shutter speed to keep the car in focus, but blur the background and wheels a bit to convey speed. Takes practice, but once you learn it's like riding a bike.
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May 22, 2018 00:30
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Bape Culture posted:Watch the support race this year and think “wow some stupid rear end in a top hat I know online worked on designing that” I-Pace trophy or Roborace?
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May 22, 2018 02:31
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I love the video of a drifter beating a roborace time by almost 30 seconds in his first time ever on the track and driving an electric car. Truly, a marvelous series. They really, really should have waited a couple years for tech to mature before starting all this poo poo.
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May 22, 2018 02:36
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Well F1 is shedding viewers every year (not just F1, all motorsports are) so they've been in a panic for a while trying to come up with a way to get millenials to give a poo poo about fast cars. EV's are inevitable even if the tech isn't there yet so it makes sense to try.
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May 22, 2018 02:50
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Yeah, but it's doing the opposite. Aside from tech nerds, no one is liking it, least of all racing fans. It was a novelty at first, but now it's just boring. Starting it up with the car swap was idiotic, the only series that does poo poo like that is MotoGP and that's literally only because it's too hard to swap tires if it starts/stops raining. They can pull all the names they want, but it's a retirement home or a home for guys who can't make it in any other series. Manufacturers are all in, but that's because it's cheap and they can try to say they're using it for test purposes while spending less than they would in a real racing series. When the VC funding dries up, they'll disappear. It's a circus act, and not even a good one.
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May 22, 2018 03:00
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xzzy posted:Well F1 is shedding viewers every year (not just F1, all motorsports are) Indycar isn't... ... Because they all went away a decade ago
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May 22, 2018 03:08
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xzzy posted:Well F1 is shedding viewers every year (not just F1, all motorsports are) so they've been in a panic for a while trying to come up with a way to get millenials to give a poo poo about fast cars. EV's are inevitable even if the tech isn't there yet so it makes sense to try. WRC's audience numbers and spectactor crowds increased last year - Not too much of a surprise that correlates to the batshit insane new breed of cars that are a mindfuck to watch in person, the audience isnt exactly skewing older either BTCC view numbers havent really dropped either from what I can find. Certainly they bring out the crowds. So.... while correlation != causation, there does seem to be a thing that close door handle to door handle racing brings the crowds, or wild cars doing stupid things at stupid speeds likewise does as well and also appeals to all ages. Maaaaybe Formula E could try that instead of dumb rear end gimmicks?
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May 22, 2018 03:10
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IOwnCalculus posted:Indycar isn't... Indy and IMSA are both gaining viewers and ticket sales, also. Exciting racing brings people in. I've yet to pay for a formula e race, they just give the tickets away. The last one had less people than the dirt track does on an average Saturday night. I fully understand WHY it exists, just not how anyone can seriously watch it or think it's anything other than a lovely tech exercise.
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May 22, 2018 03:19
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXPEJVHsi_k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSZ2GcilS0E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_pwmRgfIVU lovely old cars creating more highlights in one lap than Formula Turd
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May 22, 2018 04:11
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXPEJVHsi_k Just put Swedish folkrace on TV. There is no better door-to-door series. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4ak7wGPGCc
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May 22, 2018 05:25
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Seat Safety Switch posted:Just put Swedish folkrace on TV. There is no better door-to-door series. Rallycross rocks but I think the main Euro series is better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YQ8Y3oT8Rs
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May 22, 2018 05:46
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Has it been a while since someone has posted SST? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz77pQcIfFg I feel like we're overdue for some.
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May 22, 2018 06:30
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iwentdoodie posted:Indy and IMSA are both gaining viewers and ticket sales, also. What about MotoGP? Every time i watch a race the place is packed to the gills. The huge amount of Rossi fans reminds of Dale Sr. fans back in the 90's it's crazy.
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May 22, 2018 07:05
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drgitlin posted:I-Pace trophy or Roborace? IPace 
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May 22, 2018 07:21
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Applebees Appetizer posted:Looks like a dumb gimmick that makes no sense. "slow shutter cam" is the opposite of what you need to freeze action, you need lightning quick shutter speeds that are not possible with a phone and probably never will be. A 1/4000th shutter isn’t really going to help tell a story because the car/bike/truck’s wheels will be frozen in motion and it’ll look like it’s standing still. (There are cases where you want exactly this, but not predominantly.) This app’s version of a slow shutter is to combine multiple frames. Right name, wrong execution. Also, an iPhone’s shutter caps out at 1/8000, which is plenty fast. Its slower shutter speeds are limited to about 1/2 or 1/3 of a second, which is still way more than you need for a good panning shot. A decent camera app will let you shoot in shutter priority where you can force the shutter to stick to nice panning speeds like 1/30 or 1/60. The problem is that at those low shutter speeds you’re letting in way too much light (on a bright, sunny day) and struggle with overexposure - tiny smartphone image sensors with lenses that have relatively large apertures are to blame for this. Proper cameras let you stop down and have sensors with better dynamic range and sensitivity. You can also use ND filters. Here’s a bad panning shot I just took on my phone, to demonstrate.  And to get back onto car stuff, here are some okay shots taken on my camera, at a rally I attended recently.       (Imgur image resize compression sucks, so if you want a full size of these just remove the l from the filename.)
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May 22, 2018 10:16
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I had always wondered how you get a shot where the wheels are blurred from motion but the car was crisp. Neat!
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May 22, 2018 10:52
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Applebees Appetizer posted:What about MotoGP? Every time i watch a race the place is packed to the gills. MotoGP never even dropped off. That is a goddamn RABID fanbase. Also helps that Rossi is a god. A manlet of a god, but still.
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May 22, 2018 12:31
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Rossi is still super impressive, too bad his bike sucks and Marquez is doing everything exactly right. Not that he needs to this year as everyone who could possibly challenge him for the championship keeps crashing out.
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May 22, 2018 13:18
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Trucker in the front c y b e r d e c o in the back 
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May 22, 2018 16:20
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Hello Spaceman posted:A slow shutter is exactly what you want when panning with a fast car. That’s what’ll blur the scenery, while your panning keeps the car in focus. I was talking more about freezing action there, like the shot of the Moto3 bike jumping the other bike, so I misspoke relating to panning. I was not aware that an iPhone had that fast of a shutter speed, but what good is it if the sensor/aperture can't keep up with it? As far as panning to convey speed, yes you want slower shutter speeds, but the speeds that app is using look WAY lower than they need to be. Like I said before, I get what they are trying to do but it just doesn't work and looks hokey. You're never going to get DSLR results with a phone, that was more my point than anything. It's been awhile since I've shot motorsports, but looking through my stuff the lowest I've gone is about 1/90 in low light. 1/250  1/100  1/90 
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May 22, 2018 17:49
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Yesss the flying lizard car. That's one of my favorite liveries ever.
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May 22, 2018 18:03
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My rule of thumb for motorsport panning is the shutter denominator is subject speed times two, then adjust for light. So a car at 80mph starts with a shutter of around 1/160. I prefer to adjust towards a longer shutter because more blur looks more cool to me, but eventually I run into problems with my technique keeping a smooth panning motion. Once I get to 1/80 or slower it's a shitshow.
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May 22, 2018 18:05
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iwentdoodie posted:Yesss the flying lizard car. That's one of my favorite liveries ever. Oh is it livery chat now? Because this is my favorite ever, it looks so goddamn glorious in the sun.  Andrea Dovizioso by xzzy77, on Flickr That or the purple hippy porsche.
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May 22, 2018 18:12
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 Big fan of the classic Volvo livery.
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May 22, 2018 18:27
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I liked it when they put stuffed toy rough collies in the back of the BTCC 850 estates to wind other teams up.
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May 22, 2018 18:39
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xzzy posted:My rule of thumb for motorsport panning is the shutter denominator is subject speed times two, then adjust for light. So a car at 80mph starts with a shutter of around 1/160. I prefer to adjust towards a longer shutter because more blur looks more cool to me, but eventually I run into problems with my technique keeping a smooth panning motion. Once I get to 1/80 or slower it's a shitshow. Yeah it's a delicate balance, for me it came down to getting the most usable images possible so I didn't like going too low, just enough to convey some speed. I remember experimenting going really low and it not working out well very often, and some of my shots with more blur weren't being sold so i stuck with what was selling which was mostly shots of NASCAR drivers  Other races like Sebring and Indycar i would gently caress around and experiment more because i wasn't selling much of that stuff anyway.
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May 22, 2018 18:40
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InitialDave posted:I liked it when they put stuffed toy rough collies in the back of the BTCC 850 estates to wind other teams up. I didn't know they did that, that's awesome 
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May 22, 2018 19:51
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Bape Culture posted:IPace Nice. I’m still suggesting to them that they need a couple of cars at each race for journalists... 
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Moto3 jump dude describes his experience: https://www.autosport.com/moto3/news/136225/moto3-kornfeil-describes-crazy-jump-save In short: his airbags went off midflight, his dick hurt (not his balls) and he broke his carbon fiber seat in the landing. But otherwise fine.
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