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mcmagic posted:She would be a great speaker of the house but she's a terrible opposition leader. can you make an argument here or something or are you relegated to declarative statements without any backbone also paul ryan is 'a cuck' https://twitter.com/SopanDeb/status/877630785804566528 skylined! fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Jun 21, 2017 |
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Lemming posted:Someone make a clever pee tape/sword of damocles joke a garbage bag full of piss forever hovering over trump's head
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 21:57 |
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Jaxyon posted:Yeah man a woman would never beat Bernie or Corbyn in an election. It's possible that the guy arguing for deposing Nancy Pelosi based on shithead hysteria is not arguing in good faith, and in fact does not on most topics in this subforum.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 21:57 |
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Rigel posted:She is not significantly impacting elections outside her district. The GOP thinks maybe it'll make their base more excited to vote, but no one else cares. If the minority leader is a boring old white guy, it won't make a real difference for elections in other states. Last night someone posted a tweet feed about Hassan harping on Pelosi in her campaign against Ossoff and that being one of the central themes of her win then said "Democrats should be thinking this is all too eerily similar to the 2010 midterms." I tend to agree. If the go to attack for the GOP in the midterms is Pelosi they will win 2018. Our strategy should be just as much about motivating our turn out as depressing GOP turnout. Putting in a leader they don't all hate with a utter burning passion may be a good idea.
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Kaboobi posted:a garbage bag full of piss forever hovering over trump's head You're not supposed to want the sword to fall
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Skex posted:Obama was probably the cleanest politician in American history and they still went after him 24/7/365.25, just like they did with Bill Clinton even though Bill was little more than Republican light, they still went after him like he was Marx reincarnate. I want to frame this post.
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PC LOAD LETTER posted:Going by some of the comments in thread Dems only had a +4 turnout vs previous elections for that area though. That is good but not really indicative of a Dem takeover of the House of Reps much less both halves of Congress from what I understand. And that the much mentioned +8 number only means its somewhat possible for Dems to get the House of Reps. It doesn't guarantee it or even make it particularly likely either. Only possible. I'd disagree with those comments. Compared to every result in that district over the past 8 years except one, this represents a swing of at least 15 points. It's a deep, deep red district that just doesn't like Trump that much. But OK, call the GA-6 swing 4 points, and average it in to the rest. We're still in 10+ point territory. Each year the 2010 gerrymander gets older, the less potent it is. So, it may have been 10-11 in 2010, but it's probably 7-8 now or less. I think a takeover is likely. But you know, I'm going to do the exact same thing I'd do even if it wasn't likely, which is the same thing I've done in every election since I turned 18, which is just loving vote. An optimistic vote counts exactly as much as a pessimistic one. Here's Nate from February saying it's very possible but don't count your chickens. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/a-very-early-look-at-the-battle-for-the-house-in-2018/
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Remember the Speaker of the House doesn't have to be an elected Representative so if the Dems take the House in 2018 I suggest nominating Joe Manchin.
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http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/republicans-turned-to-nancy-pelosi-to-win-in-georgia/article/2626587 Please, let's keep Pelosi..
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ISeeCuckedPeople posted:http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/republicans-turned-to-nancy-pelosi-to-win-in-georgia/article/2626587 If Pelosi is popular with Democrats, keep Pelosi. If she isn't, get rid of her. Focus only on what the base cares about, because the entire game is turning out your base. Do not consider what any Republicans think for even a second because they are insane and will easily find someone new to hate.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 22:08 |
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Republicans are the enemy, their opinions are poo poo.
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Lemming posted:If Pelosi is popular with Democrats, keep Pelosi. If she isn't, get rid of her. Focus only on what the base cares about, because the entire game is turning out your base. Pelosi does not connect with the working class which is a major part of the base we are trying to court. I think it's really clear.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 22:10 |
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If we're replacing Pelosi I'd like to nominate Chancellor Martok. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/star-trek-actor-played-klingon-running-congress-ny-article-1.3247055 quote:Actor J.G. Hertzler, famous for playing Klingon General Martok on "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine," is hoping to set his phaser to "stunning upset" by defeating incumbent Rep. Tom Reed in New York's 23rd District this November.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 22:11 |
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trickybiscuits posted:It's nice to see. There was a comic called Prez that came out a year or two back and it was a satirical look at American politics. One of the gags was the idea of "Sickstarter", a website that helps you raise money for medical bills. It was done as satire. This is where America seems to be heading now.
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ISeeCuckedPeople posted:Pelosi does not connect with the working class which is a major part of the base we are trying to court. I think it's really clear. as negotiations stall in this thread, perhaps you should go talk to tom perez directly
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Skex posted:Obama was probably the cleanest politician in American history and they still went after him 24/7/365.25, just like they did with Bill Clinton even though Bill was little more than Republican light, they still went after him like he was Marx reincarnate.
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ISeeCuckedPeople posted:http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/republicans-turned-to-nancy-pelosi-to-win-in-georgia/article/2626587 When you play a competitive game do you also take tactical advice from your opponent? Has it ever occurred to you that the reason the GOP has turned Pelosi into their boogie woman is precisely because she is good at her job? And that by buying into their bullshit you are just taking one of your star players off the field? If the left jettisons every Democrat that the GOP vilifies all that will be left are ineffective Colmes clones and that is not a recipe for victory.
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ISeeCuckedPeople posted:Pelosi does not connect with the working class which is a major part of the base we are trying to court. I think it's really clear. Your article focused on the thought process of Republicans, so it was a complete waste
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click the link for a good post
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ISeeCuckedPeople posted:http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/republicans-turned-to-nancy-pelosi-to-win-in-georgia/article/2626587
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Reik posted:If we're replacing Pelosi I'd like to nominate Chancellor Martok. Qapla' !!!!
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 22:15 |
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You keep saying Pelosi is good at her job but I fail to see any success from her. Even with a Supermajority Dems let their own party members filibuster their own god damned legislation.
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ISeeCuckedPeople posted:You keep saying Pelosi is good at her job but I fail to see any success from her. Even with a Supermajority Dems let their own party members filibuster their own god damned legislation. That was in the Senate, she was in charge of the House.
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Madkal posted:There was a comic called Prez that came out a year or two back and it was a satirical look at American politics. One of the gags was the idea of "Sickstarter", a website that helps you raise money for medical bills. It was done as satire. This is where America seems to be heading now. We're already there. The majority of crowdfunding is for medical bills.
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ISeeCuckedPeople posted:You keep saying Pelosi is good at her job but I fail to see any success from her. Even with a Supermajority Dems let their own party members filibuster their own god damned legislation. going to bring back the fabled sea lion label here
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ISeeCuckedPeople posted:You keep saying Pelosi is good at her job but I fail to see any success from her. Even with a Supermajority Dems let their own party members filibuster their own god damned legislation. That's the Senate you loving moron
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ISeeCuckedPeople posted:You keep saying Pelosi is good at her job but I fail to see any success from her. Even with a Supermajority Dems let their own party members filibuster their own god damned legislation. Okay, I know you're a trolling shitbag who should be cast into the deepest pits of GBS and FYAD, but for the audience, the House doesn't have a goddamn filibuster. Efb, DND still has good people in it.
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ISeeCuckedPeople posted:You keep saying Pelosi is good at her job but I fail to see any success from her. Even with a Supermajority Dems let their own party members filibuster their own god damned legislation. That was the Senate, you moron. She runs the House. And note that 0 Democrats crossed the line to support AHCA, or any other major legislation Ryan wants.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 22:20 |
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I will watch the piss tape so that future generations do not have to.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 22:23 |
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Maybe we could get a tech start up genius who invented a way to get people to multiple places using vehicles with fixed routes with them paying just one low fare
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 22:24 |
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I've seen Pelosi blamed so many times for Senate ACA bullshit that I'm starting to think it's some attempt at a meme.
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Kurzon posted:So loving true. The Democrats must realize that the Republicans are not interested in compromise but have declared all-out war on them. Remember that whole dumb birth certificate thing? That's a sign that the Republicans couldn't find anything embarrassing in Obama's past so they resorted to making poo poo up. Obama was squeaky clean. And now Republicans are debasing themselves defending one of the most depraved Presidents in US history. What Democrats have talked about compromising with Republicans?
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 22:30 |
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Harrow posted:I've seen Pelosi blamed so many times for Senate ACA bullshit that I'm starting to think it's some attempt at a meme. Funny thing is, is that when it comes to legislation, Pelosi gets poo poo done when she is in charge. Xae posted:Just so I'm reading this broke brained poo poo right: Just a few trolls as far as I can tell. I skim this thread instead of reading closely when people can't stop chicken little-ing. It was a stupid seat in a loving red state. "Oh no, we'll have to try again in two years" :somesortofjerkoffemotehere: Edit - This will work Spun Dog fucked around with this message at 22:38 on Jun 21, 2017 |
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Just so I'm reading this broke brained poo poo right: The people who scream the loudest about RESIST REPUBLICANS are now recommending capitulation and letting Republicans decide who the Democratic leadership is?
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Xae posted:Just so I'm reading this broke brained poo poo right: I believe in fact you'll find their proposal for some sort of cult like group suicide in South America very reasonable.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 22:34 |
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I have no strong feelings on Pelosi one way or another but its hilarious to think anyone is sincerely buying into this "its her fault" narrative. Is there one person in existence who thinks that if Nancy Pelosi retired tomorrow that the GOP messaging wouldn't just become stopping her replacement's agenda? And then "We must stop Chuck Schumer's agenda"? And if he went away they'd just be demonizing Chris Murphy or Corey Booker or Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders or John Lewis or whoever is next on their list of Democratic boogeymen? Its transparent and absurd.
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Harrow posted:I've seen Pelosi blamed so many times for Senate ACA bullshit that I'm starting to think it's some attempt at a meme. The Republicans are just realizing they can't effectively attack Hillary any more so they're redirecting all that misogyny at the next available female target. If not Pelosi, Warren, if not Warren Kamala, if not Kamala then Duckworth, etc.
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Lemming posted:Trump tweeted that he specifically never hired Russian hookers, which is all the proof you need that the tape is insanely real Of course he didn't hire any hookers. He has an assistant for that.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:The Republicans are just realizing they can't effectively attack Hillary any more so they're redirecting all that misogyny at the next available female target. If not Pelosi, Warren, if not Warren Kamala, if not Kamala then Duckworth, etc. Pretty much this. Pelosi is the next most convenient target for them.
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