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Zuhzuhzombie!!
Apr 17, 2008
FACTS ARE A CONSPIRACY BY THE CAPITALIST OPRESSOR

Xandu posted:

Are you referring to the Southern Movement in Yemen? Not exactly communist these days, though they lean left.


That may be it?

It's been quite some time and I don't remember the details, just more or less something along the lines of "Radical remnants from the YSP and a new generation of leftists" responding to the government crackdown and Al Qaida activity.

I would assume your answer is also mine. If there's no obvious/big news about it, then whatever I read either wasn't true or petered out.

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Rip Testes
Jan 29, 2004

I never forget a face, but in your case I'll be glad to make an exception.
Is this true or BS?

quote:

Chechen commander leads Muhajireen Brigade in Syria

A commander from the Russian Caucasus known as Abu Omar al Chechen is a key leader in the Muhajireen Brigade, a jihadist group that fights alongside the Al Nusrah Front for the People of the Levant against the regime of President Bashir al Assad. The Muhajireen Brigade, whose members include fighters from the Islamic Caucasus Emirate, has played a vital role in overrunning several major Syrian military installations over the past year.

Muffiner
Sep 16, 2009

Zuhzuhzombie!! posted:

Can I get a link to some more reading material?
I don't have anything specific in mind but the original Baath regime before the 'Corrective Movement' is what I was talking about. Try reading stuff about the period between 1963 and 1966 under Amin AlHafez, aka Abu Abdou AlJahesh (Abu Abdou the jackass), one of the more humane and popular Baathists to ever become a head of state.

3 large explosions have been reported in Damascus within the last hour, apparently targeting the Central Bank building, the Baath regional HQ and a third in the Barzeh area, targeting branch 211. Images of the Baath HQ bombing:


Note that the big white building to the left of the center in the first image is the central bank, so I doubt reports of it being targeted are accurate.

MothraAttack
Apr 28, 2008
According to @NMSyria at least one detonated at a commuter minibus station near a major bridge, meaning essentially targeting civilians.

Pieter Pan
May 16, 2004
Bad faith argument here:
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Rip Testes posted:

Is this true or BS?

It might be BS. I've followed the conflict in the North Caucasus for years and this man doesn't ring a bell. It could quite easily be an Arab who fought in the North Caucasus and then returned. Or if it's indeed an ethnic Chechen / other ethnic Caucasian commander it could still be a Syrian since Caucasians have lived there since the 19th century.

See this article for more information http://www.jamestown.org/single/?no...be527d55c5cc89a

Also the Caucasus Emirate isn't really 'al Qaeda-linked', but it does share the same ideology since Umarov became its leader.

Pieter Pan fucked around with this message at 13:47 on Feb 21, 2013

Muffiner
Sep 16, 2009

MothraAttack posted:

According to @NMSyria at least one detonated at a commuter minibus station near a major bridge, meaning essentially targeting civilians.

http://goo.gl/maps/zhPxB
This is the exact location of the explosion. It is at a main bus stop, known as the Hayat stop due to the Hayat hospital which is across the street. the street to the west of the trees is the Harasta Garage, which is the bus stop for most of the bus lines going to the Harasta/Douma suburbs. This place, along with the Thawra Street bus stop are the most important bus stops in Damascus, as all the major lines feed through them. For the car carrying the explosives to get there, it would have had to come from deep within Damascus. The most probable goal behind the attack was terror, as there are a berth of easily accessible targets along any of the routes it could have took to get to the detonation point.
A lot of LCCs and activist are claiming that the guards who usually man checkpoints around the area of the explosion were absent a few minutes before the blast, especially in the area east of the explosion. There are also people reporting that communications were cut before and after the explosion. I am not sure about before, but after the explosion land lines and mobile networks were cut off in the surrounding areas.

HUGE PUBES A PLUS
Apr 30, 2005

The organization Syrians in the UK sent a letter to the United States thanking them for imposing more sanctions on two Belarusian state-run weapons manufacturers that provide equipment to Iran and Syria.

http://www.sacbee.com/2013/02/19/v-print/5201746/syrian-organization-sanctions.html

Sacramento Bee posted:

LONDON, Feb. 19, 2013 -- /PRNewswire/ -- Syrians in the UK, a human rights group that unites British citizens who were born in Syria, sent a letter to the U.S. Senate praising the fact that the U.S. government announced economic sanctions against two Belarusian companies that sold weapons to Syria and Iran.

"Belarusian companies TM Services and KBR Radar are some of the most active arms dealers and producers in the country. They produced and shipped weapons to Iran and Syria, and therefore the fact that they are put on the sanctions list is of great importance. However, we kindly ask you to consider further expanding sanctions against Belarus, and to include all companies that are state-owned or support the Lukashenka regime," the letter states. This is the only effective way to stop Lukashenka from helping Syrian leadership in their fight against Syrian people."

"It has reported that Lukashenka acts like a Swiss bank for world's dictators, channeling the money and helping Syria and Iran escape sanctions. We ask you to consider additional measures against Belarus, specifically banning export of oil and potash, as exporting these commodities constitute over 50% of Belarusian currency inflow. The sanctions must be in place until Belarus stops providing financial services and weapons to Syria," states the letter.

Boulos Kuzbari, Syrians in the UK co-founder, says: "Belarus is Syria's window to weapons and money. We believe that the US must not only ban companies that sell weapons, but ban trading with the whole country. This way we can almost ensure that Basar Al-Assad will not receive support from Belarus. We hope the U.S. will include other companies in the sanctions, especially those that are controlled by the government. We sent the letter to the U.S. Senate and members of the British Parliament," added Kuzbari.

The president of Belarus is a pariah to the world so the Kremlin is rumored to funnel military support through Belarus so they can insist their hands are clean.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

Finally I've made it, my name and work is mentioned on Globalresearch.ca.

HUGE PUBES A PLUS
Apr 30, 2005

Brown Moses posted:

Finally I've made it, my name and work is mentioned on Globalresearch.ca.

Congratulations, one who blogs obsessively. Nice couple of citations there too.

Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


What's the next steps for the rebels with Damascus essentially surrounded? Once Damascus falls, wouldn't the war be essentially over?

zetamind2000
Nov 6, 2007

I'm an alien.

Tab8715 posted:

What's the next steps for the rebels with Damascus essentially surrounded? Once Damascus falls, wouldn't the war be essentially over?

It really depends on if Assad flees the country or relocates to the Alawite-majority areas on the coast. Even if Damascus falls, he can drag the war out for some time.

Charliegrs
Aug 10, 2009

Tab8715 posted:

What's the next steps for the rebels with Damascus essentially surrounded? Once Damascus falls, wouldn't the war be essentially over?

Are you saying that Damascus is essentially surrounded right now? Because I'm not so sure that is the case...

Muffiner
Sep 16, 2009

Tab8715 posted:

What's the next steps for the rebels with Damascus essentially surrounded? Once Damascus falls, wouldn't the war be essentially over?

A large part of the suburbs have been out of government control for a long, long time. things in Damascus have been relatively static ever since July-August last year, with Rebels controlling many suburbs and some parts of south Damascus but unable to move on the capital, and the regime focusing it's attacks on specific places (Darayya comes to mind) to cut off any supply lines the rebels might get into the heart of the city.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

Tab8715 posted:

What's the next steps for the rebels with Damascus essentially surrounded? Once Damascus falls, wouldn't the war be essentially over?

Infighting to control the country between various opposition groups. I don't think Jabhat al-Nusra are going to pack their bags on leave once the fighting is over.

Pieter Pan
May 16, 2004
Bad faith argument here:
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Brown Moses posted:

Infighting to control the country between various opposition groups. I don't think Jabhat al-Nusra are going to pack their bags on leave once the fighting is over.

I'm not sure if the fall of Damascus would mean the end of the conflict as it is now? Liberating Sunni Arab regions in Syria is easier for the rebels than conquering the coastal region.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

Pieter posted:

I'm not sure if the fall of Damascus would mean the end of the conflict as it is now? Liberating Sunni Arab regions in Syria is easier for the rebels than conquering the coastal region.

There's still a long way to go until Damascus will fall, I don't the real fighting has even started yet, although we're on the way there. What's going to be interesting is the effect of these new weapons in Daraa, and how that will change things south of Damascus, because it already looks like they are capturing tanks and other heavy equipment they didn't have access to before. The Syrian army is already stretched, and having Aleppo number 2 appearing just south of Damascus will cause them serious problems. There should be a lot more in the press about these foreign weapons soon judging by the number of journalists contacting me about them at the moment.

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
Someone I care deeply for was captured by the syrian mukhabarat a month ago and I just got word that he's been executed.

Good bye my friend. Mentor. Lover of french political philosophy. a sharp-witted underground writer. and now I know you were also a brave political freedom activist who chose to try to make freedom come to your country when you could've stayed away. you were a far braver man than I am and a far better person than I will ever be.

I just wish his life didnt end the way it did. I can only think in horror and soul-crushing despair at what his final days were like.

*Edit*

It's strange. I feel very strange. the more time passes the more it's beginning to sink in. this strange feeling. I've never had the experience of knowing that someone I confided in. Someone I laughed and joked in and talked for hours on life and politics and art and culture. someone who I travelled with and experienced new things with dies under torture.

I remember him goading me on to follow my dreams and not be stuck in the job I was in. I wanted to see him being happy for me when I succeed in my dreams in life. I wanted to have just a few more reccomendations from him for books from strange french writers I've never heard about. I wanted to return him that book he let me borrow.

And now he's dead. Not only dead but died in one of the worst ways a human bieng could die. under torture then with a bullet in him. He was over 60 years old.

I dont know what I should say and feel right now. it's not something I've ever experienced. I apologize if I'm writing too much.

Al-Saqr fucked around with this message at 17:14 on Feb 22, 2013

Political Whores
Feb 13, 2012

That's awful, Al-Saqr. My condolences :smith:

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Sorry to hear that Al-Saqr. When the smoke from all this mess clears down the road, whether it be a year, 5 years, or 10 years, it's going to be guys like him that people look back on and remember as the ones who made it happen. Sounds like an amazing person. My condolences.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

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Oh poo poo man that's terrible! I'm very sorry to hear it.

Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

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RZApublican posted:

It really depends on if Assad flees the country or relocates to the Alawite-majority areas on the coast. Even if Damascus falls, he can drag the war out for some time.

Why hasn't the army told Assad to gently caress himself?

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Tab8715 posted:

Why hasn't the army told Assad to gently caress himself?

Because the army wants to keep the existing order in place.

the JJ
Mar 31, 2011

Zeroisanumber posted:

Because the army wants to keep the existing order in place.

And those who don't are defecting so...

Mans
Sep 14, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Tab8715 posted:

Why hasn't the army told Assad to gently caress himself?

Because their commanding officers are still getting payed? Because they think they're too deep to be allowed to deffect? Because government propaganda brainwashed them? I know people who honestly believe Assad is being attacked by NATO Jihadists and that Assad maintained a stable semi-socialist country where the quality of life and woman's rights were the emerald of the Middle East (same with Gadaffi).

If people in Europe believe in this poo poo i assume some people in Syria believe it too.

Zuhzuhzombie!!
Apr 17, 2008
FACTS ARE A CONSPIRACY BY THE CAPITALIST OPRESSOR

Pieter posted:

I'm not sure if the fall of Damascus would mean the end of the conflict as it is now? Liberating Sunni Arab regions in Syria is easier for the rebels than conquering the coastal region.

Once Damascus falls the secular and Islamists will turn on each other.

Not sure where the socialist parties are aligned or how involved they are. I know prior to the breakout that several of the largest socialist parties were in the same political front as the Ba'athists, but other than the leader of one of their Communist Parties being the VP of the SNC, I don't know.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Zuhzuhzombie!! posted:

Once Damascus falls the secular and Islamists will turn on each other.

I don't think so, at least not right away, I think it has to be Assad's death rather than the fall of the city.


I'm so sorry for your loss, Al-Saqr, your mentor sounds like a great man.

Zuhzuhzombie!!
Apr 17, 2008
FACTS ARE A CONSPIRACY BY THE CAPITALIST OPRESSOR

Tatum Girlparts posted:

I don't think so, at least not right away, I think it has to be Assad's death rather than the fall of the city.



Sorry, I conflated the fall of Damascus to the fall of Assad and the regime.

ecureuilmatrix
Mar 30, 2011
drat it, that' s tragic, Al-Saqr. Really sorry about your loss. Is there some family of him left?

Zuhzuhzombie!!
Apr 17, 2008
FACTS ARE A CONSPIRACY BY THE CAPITALIST OPRESSOR
This... couldn't be good, could it, if they actually escalate? Over extending themselves, an additional front, military operations in a neighboring country that doesn't like Syrians because of the Syrian occupation, etc.



http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2013/02/20/267402.html?PHPSESSID=8tkkntu90nnhffhdb5emah7sv4


quote:

The Syrian Free Army (FSA) has issued an ultimatum to Lebanese Hezbollah group to cease its operations in Syria or face attacks on its installations in South Lebanon.

FSA Chief of Staff Brigadier General Salim Idris told Al Arabiya that Hezbollah, a staunch ally of President Bashar al-Assad, has 48 hours to end its involvement in Syria or the Syrian opposition army will begin targeting its positions in Lebanon.

Syrian activist Hadi al-Abdallah told Al Arabiya that Hezbollah, in response to FSA threats, has begun sending reinforcements to the Syrian borders.

In October 2012, Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah acknowledged that party members had fought Syrian rebels but said they were acting as individuals and not under the party’s direction.



ed



According to Times of Israel, it's already occurring.


http://www.timesofisrael.com/syrian-rebels-take-fight-to-hezbollah-in-lebanon/




I do not know the accuracy of either source.

Zuhzuhzombie!! fucked around with this message at 20:02 on Feb 22, 2013

HUGE PUBES A PLUS
Apr 30, 2005

Zuhzuhzombie!! posted:

This... couldn't be good, could it, if they actually escalate? Over extending themselves, an additional front, military operations in a neighboring country that doesn't like Syrians because of the Syrian occupation, etc.



http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2013/02/20/267402.html?PHPSESSID=8tkkntu90nnhffhdb5emah7sv4




ed



According to Times of Israel, it's already occurring.


http://www.timesofisrael.com/syrian-rebels-take-fight-to-hezbollah-in-lebanon/




I do not know the accuracy of either source.

Armies fighting on two fronts have a hard time maintaining both. This could be a old but tried and true strategy to weaken the FSA. I like to mention stuff I find because it's interesting to me, but I accept my sources may not always be accurate. Russian news sources have articles about Syria almost daily, but they are pro-Assad.

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

Highspeeddub posted:

Armies fighting on two fronts have a hard time maintaining both. This could be a old but tried and true strategy to weaken the FSA. I like to mention stuff I find because it's interesting to me, but I accept my sources may not always be accurate. Russian news sources have articles about Syria almost daily, but they are pro-Assad.

Except you forget that there's a much powerful adversary of Hezbollah to the south that would be willing to watch to see how these FSA attacks would work out. The Israelis are unlikely to help out the FSA, but more likely to pounce on vulnerabilities in Hezbollah's defenses.

ganglysumbia
Jan 29, 2005
The Atlantic put up a few photos about DIY weapons in Syria.

The guy laying down in bed with sheets that seem covered in blood is a bit... :stare:





LP97S
Apr 25, 2008
I'm pretty sure that's not blood just an incredibly tacky rose painted sheet. I really hope it is.

Adventure Pigeon
Nov 8, 2005

I am a master storyteller.

ganglysumbia posted:

The Atlantic put up a few photos about DIY weapons in Syria.

The guy laying down in bed with sheets that seem covered in blood is a bit... :stare:



The sheets just have a flower design on them. You can see light pink flowers and green leaves/stems as well. Was a bit creepy at first, though.

Muffiner
Sep 16, 2009

Al-Saqr posted:

Someone I care deeply for was captured by the syrian mukhabarat a month ago and I just got word that he's been executed.

Good bye my friend. Mentor. Lover of french political philosophy. a sharp-witted underground writer. and now I know you were also a brave political freedom activist who chose to try to make freedom come to your country when you could've stayed away. you were a far braver man than I am and a far better person than I will ever be.

I just wish his life didnt end the way it did. I can only think in horror and soul-crushing despair at what his final days were like.

*Edit*

It's strange. I feel very strange. the more time passes the more it's beginning to sink in. this strange feeling. I've never had the experience of knowing that someone I confided in. Someone I laughed and joked in and talked for hours on life and politics and art and culture. someone who I travelled with and experienced new things with dies under torture.

I remember him goading me on to follow my dreams and not be stuck in the job I was in. I wanted to see him being happy for me when I succeed in my dreams in life. I wanted to have just a few more reccomendations from him for books from strange french writers I've never heard about. I wanted to return him that book he let me borrow.

And now he's dead. Not only dead but died in one of the worst ways a human bieng could die. under torture then with a bullet in him. He was over 60 years old.

I dont know what I should say and feel right now. it's not something I've ever experienced. I apologize if I'm writing too much.

It happens, and it is one of the most tragic things in this conflict. The worst endings happening to the best of people, at the hands of those much more unhuman than beasts. Hopefully, one day we will see this changed due, in part at least, to the greatest of sacrifices your friend and many others made.


After some research, Yesterday's bombings in Damascus included the transport hub we all heard about, in addition to a police station in the Barzeh pre-fab area which has been relatively quiet, as well as an unverified report of a bomb attack on Branch 211 in Barzeh, which could have been a result of the FSA attacking the anti-drug police branch nearby.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

Got something epic coming soon, hopefully you'll all see it online soon, going to be hard to miss if you are following Syria.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Well be sure to link to it, this is my one-stop mideast shop.

Promontory
Apr 6, 2011

Al-Saqr posted:

Someone I care deeply for was captured by the syrian mukhabarat a month ago and I just got word that he's been executed.

I'm just a voice on the internet, but I really am sorry for your loss. From your description of the man, I should say "our loss".

I can only hope that one day all of us will be able to follow your friend's example in solving our differences, and not resort to force when reason runs out.

Zuhzuhzombie!!
Apr 17, 2008
FACTS ARE A CONSPIRACY BY THE CAPITALIST OPRESSOR

Young Freud posted:

Except you forget that there's a much powerful adversary of Hezbollah to the south that would be willing to watch to see how these FSA attacks would work out. The Israelis are unlikely to help out the FSA, but more likely to pounce on vulnerabilities in Hezbollah's defenses.

Syrian and Israeli military action in Southern Lebanon?

That should seriously worry some folks.

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Warcabbit
Apr 26, 2008

Wedge Regret
Every time I hear of a loss like this, I'm just glad they existed, and inspired others. Death comes to us one at a time, and we never know when. It's what we do with life that makes the difference.

I'm sorry for your loss, al-Sadr. Live on, and be to someone else, what he was to you.

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