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Justin Tyme: Feb 22, 2011

Lowtax posted:

First somebody must have built a sand castle to have it destroyed.

Oh but there is, the sand castle is in their head you see, and it was constructed with disability checks.

# ? Dec 27, 2015 22:32

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# ? Jun 12, 2024 15:39

Keshik: Oct 27, 2000

Did anyone successfully chargeback through their credit card if they bought in through Kickstarter?

I got this email from RSI about my ticket telling them I was issuing a chargeback, my bank says it'll be another few months for their investigation so no word yet from them:

quote:

Hi there,

Thank you very much for your patience with this ticket.

We have reviewed your account status and regret that we are not able to accommodate your request for a refund since it was received outside of the statutory 14 day period.

Your pledge was made as part of the crowdfunding campaign to raise funds for the development of �Star Citizen.� As such you were aware that the funds would be actively applied after receipt for this purpose, not idly maintained in a bank account, and therefore could not be subject to a refund once used. As you may know from the extensive information on our website Robertsspaceindustries.com, Cloud Imperium Games has been working diligently over the past 3 years on the development of the game, and now employs over 260 staff in four studios. 2,538 reports, updates and web shows have been made available during this time, and first modules with limited gameplay were offered as early as in fall of 2013 � by now hundreds of thousands of gameplay hours have been played on our servers. The development of the game is proceeding steadily, and a substantial part of the promised game offering dozens of gameplay hours has been made available to the backers in early release versions (see further detail below).

Pursuant to the terms of your agreement (see Sec. 4 of the Commercial Terms, and Sec. IV.A of the subsequent Terms of Service, as applicable, https://robertsspaceindustries.com/tos), your payment was a deposit to be used for the �Game Cost� (as defined therein), and such deposit has since been �earned by CIG and become non-refundable to the extent that it is used for the Game Cost...� You further agreed to �irrevocably waive any claim for refund of any deposit amount that has been used for the Game Cost and Pledge Item Cost in accordance with the above.� The only exception would be a return of unearned funds remaining in case of an abandonment of the project. If you pledged on Kickstarter, you agreed to these terms when you transferred your pledge account to robertsspaceindustries.com.

These terms are consistent with the specific nature of crowdfunding and the foreseeable use of your pledge � we hope you appreciate that we cannot ask our hard working personnel to return some of their salary nor that it would be appropriate to use current backers� funds provided for game development as a refund for an earlier and committed pledge.

While a substantive part of the promised gameplay is now available, we acknowledge that delivery of some game elements has been delayed due to expansion of Star Citizen�s scope. This expansion is a result of the community�s declared desire to have the initial release version of the game developed to a much greater depth than contemplated originally upon start of the campaign. It is inherent to the nature of crowdfunding that such an adjustment to the project may occur. Ultimately, this will benefit all backers including yourself, since every backer will be receiving a much greater value for his/her pledge, but it may � as in this case � cause an extension of the delivery dates.

We acknowledge that some individual backers may find the additional wait undesirable. However, as per Sec. VII of the ToS, you did �acknowledge and agree that delivery as of such date is not a promise by RSI since unforeseen events may extend the development and/or production time.�

We�d like to point you to the significant gameplay which is now available; https://robertsspaceindustries.com/feature-list and if you haven't already, we encourage you to download the installer from this url: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/download and patch up to play the latest version of the game.

Star Citizen is a project for gamers, by gamers. Delays and changes are always unfortunate, but in our case they are also one of the reasons the project is so special. By financing the project using crowd funding, our team is not beholden to a publisher who would insist we ship a game unfinished or broken to meet a particular date. Thanks to continued backing of our community, we have the needed creative freedom over the project, to create a unique game, and we feel the results, such as unparalleled immersion and fidelity, are already speaking for themselves!

We sincerely hope you enjoy the updates both current and future in the Star Citizen 'Verse.

Thank you.
RSI Customer Service Management

# ? Dec 27, 2015 22:33

eonwe: Aug 11, 2008; Lipstick Apathy

wow gently caress you guys, obviously this is the early days of star citizen

this game has the benjamin button disease, so it actually has less development time now than it did a year ago

# ? Dec 27, 2015 22:33

eonwe: Aug 11, 2008; Lipstick Apathy

the fact that they've cracked down so hard on refunds tells me things are going well for star citizen

# ? Dec 27, 2015 22:34

eonwe: Aug 11, 2008; Lipstick Apathy

lowtax, given how often people on any side of this have threatened lawsuits do you expect to have to get Leonard J Crabs involved to defend your right to own wingcommanderthemovie.com

# ? Dec 27, 2015 22:35

spacetoaster: Feb 10, 2014

Justin Tyme posted:

Oh but there is, the sand castle is in their head you see, and it was constructed with disability checks.

What's wrong with disabled chicks? Everybody needs love, man.

# ? Dec 27, 2015 22:37

spacetoaster: Feb 10, 2014

Crap, I'm stuck in a line with that other pink elephant guy.

# ? Dec 27, 2015 22:37

Mandibular Fiasco: Oct 14, 2012

Keshik posted:

Did anyone successfully chargeback through their credit card if they bought in through Kickstarter?

I got this email from RSI about my ticket telling them I was issuing a chargeback, my bank says it'll be another few months for their investigation so no word yet from them:

I got the same e-mail boilerplate. My bank said it was too late for a chargeback. Definitely looks like they're out of money.

# ? Dec 27, 2015 22:38

EightAce: May 10, 2015; Watch it all come crashing down on his head and wonder why any of us gave him money in the first place.

EightAce fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Apr 7, 2016

# ? Dec 27, 2015 22:39

Lowtax: Nov 16, 1999; by Skyl3lazer

Eonwe posted:

lowtax, given how often people on any side of this have threatened lawsuits do you expect to have to get Leonard J Crabs involved to defend your right to own wingcommanderthemovie.com

Who on their side will have any money left over to possibly sue me?

# ? Dec 27, 2015 22:39

eonwe: Aug 11, 2008; Lipstick Apathy

Lowtax posted:

Who on their side will have any money left over to possibly sue me?

I didn't mean they'd actually sue, just that they'd send you a strongly worded letter that Leonard J Crabs might respond to

# ? Dec 27, 2015 22:41

Decrepus: May 21, 2008; In the end, his dominion did not touch a single poster.

Eonwe posted:

wow gently caress you guys, obviously this is the early days of star citizen

this game has the benjamin button disease, so it actually has less development time now than it did a year ago

# ? Dec 27, 2015 22:41

MilesK: Nov 5, 2015

AP posted:

'I definitely want to do another Wing Commander...' has there been any progress on that front?

So I know the movie sucks, but has anyone ever watched the TV show?
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B005GYXO30/wingcommander-20

Lol, started to watch it, first thing that happens is their space flight simulator crashes. The future!

MilesK fucked around with this message at 23:00 on Dec 27, 2015

# ? Dec 27, 2015 22:42

eonwe: Aug 11, 2008; Lipstick Apathy

you guys remember when they threatened to sue the escapist for writing that sandi didnt hire someone because it looked like they had unkempt pubes

# ? Dec 27, 2015 22:43

eonwe: Aug 11, 2008; Lipstick Apathy

that person was me

# ? Dec 27, 2015 22:43

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Eonwe posted:

lowtax, given how often people on any side of this have threatened lawsuits do you expect to have to get Leonard J Crabs involved to defend your right to own wingcommanderthemovie.com

I miss reading through all the old Leonard J Crabs articles. This site needs more Crabs.

# ? Dec 27, 2015 22:44

Justin Tyme: Feb 22, 2011

Eonwe posted:

you guys remember when they threatened to sue the escapist for writing that sandi didnt hire someone because it looked like they had unkempt pubes

Ah yes, all signs of a healthy, professional video games company

# ? Dec 27, 2015 22:45

peter gabriel: Nov 8, 2011; Hello Commandos

Lowtax posted:

Late Merry Christmas!!!

https://www.wingcommanderthemovie.com

# ? Dec 27, 2015 22:46

pftc: Oct 1, 2015

# ? Dec 27, 2015 22:51

fat bossy gerbil: Jul 1, 2007

This thread has now gathered a terrifying momentum all its own, like an avalanche. It just keeps rolling down the hill. Nothing can slow it down. Not the fact that nothing interesting has happened in weeks. Not the fact that Derek's lawsuit is nowhere to be found. Nothing can stand in its way as it rolls onward faster and faster post by post until it annihilates us all.

# ? Dec 27, 2015 22:53

Coolguye: Jul 6, 2011; Required by his programming!

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# ? Dec 27, 2015 22:53

Darkpriest667: Feb 2, 2015; I'm sorry I impugned
your cocksmanship.

spacetoaster posted:

I sold my 87 Honda Civic for 300 dollars cash to my neighbor. That was 4 years ago. He still drives it every day.

Hondas and Toyotas are damned near indestructible. I had a 1988 Toyota Corolla 5 speed standard that I loaned my step brother for 2 years once. He brought it back and the odometer had gone out and he had NOT CHANGED THE OIL in two years. I replaced the oil and said forget the odometer and she ran like a top for 2 more years after that. The day I had that car hauled off the engine still ran smooth but the clutch and fly wheel kept going out. Buying that car back right now would still be a better "investment" than star citizen.

EDIT--- Also running a P72 into a constellation is a lot of fun.

# ? Dec 27, 2015 22:54

Coolguye: Jul 6, 2011; Required by his programming!

hey gryphon since i am unable to lie here is a fact: you got swindled out of (about) $1500.

# ? Dec 27, 2015 22:54

peter gabriel: Nov 8, 2011; Hello Commandos

This game is offensively poo poo

# ? Dec 27, 2015 22:56

Mirificus: Oct 29, 2004; Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

https://www.reddit.com/r/DerekSmart/comments/3y7xq8/mr_smalls_brags_about_attempted_rsi_hostile_take/cyd2q1h?context=3

# ? Dec 27, 2015 23:02

Google Butt: Oct 4, 2005; Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

Nobody said we wouldn't play the game if it comes out, just that you're mentally retarded for spending more than $30 on it

# ? Dec 27, 2015 23:04

Ravane: Oct 23, 2010; by LadyAmbien

Disappointed that we're calling star citizen big spenders whales, but we're not calling wulf knight, moby dickwulf.

Breetai posted:

Uhh... what the gently caress? Can someone who's been following the development of this game elaborate on this because doesn't that remove the whole point of the game?

The zombies were taken out because it caused too much server lag. Apparently they're back in again in the latest release, but it looks like they didn't do anything with them to reduce the server lag, haha. It's honestly a very disappointing game, I'm so happy it's making people sad. It's such a terrible and toxic community that can't take criticism, but once their leader left, while the game was still in alpha, a lot of people finally turned their back on the game. Granted for most of them, it was a 30 dollar loss, and the game is still a better playable state than star citizen. Which is why Star Citizen's inevitable crash will be glorious.

Coolguye posted:

hey gryphon since i am unable to lie here is a fact: you got swindled out of (about) $1500.

about $2500 actually.

# ? Dec 27, 2015 23:06

peter gabriel: Nov 8, 2011; Hello Commandos

Google Butt posted:

Nobody said we wouldn't play the game if it comes out, just that you're mentally retarded for spending more than $30 on it

As it stands we're looking at Bad Rats level of awe inspiringly, shockingly, over whelmingly massive levels of sheer unfiltered poo poo though so there's currently a zero percent chance I'll play this steaming heap of beige even if it does somehow manage to squeeze out of Roberts' bowels to retail

# ? Dec 27, 2015 23:06

Google Butt: Oct 4, 2005; Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

peter gabriel posted:

As it stands we're looking at Bad Rats level of awe inspiringly, shockingly, over whelmingly massive levels of sheer unfiltered poo poo though so there's currently a zero percent chance I'll play this steaming heap of beige even if it does somehow manage to squeeze out of Roberts' bowels to retail

Yea I forgot you actually played it, you self owned if we're being honest..

# ? Dec 27, 2015 23:08

peter gabriel: Nov 8, 2011; Hello Commandos

Google Butt posted:

Yea I forgot you actually played it, you self owned if we're being honest..

I have no one to blame but myself

# ? Dec 27, 2015 23:09

Mirificus: Oct 29, 2004; Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/3ydwv5/sell_me_the_game_i_want_to_convince_a_friend_to/

# ? Dec 27, 2015 23:11

CLAM DOWN: Feb 13, 2007

Keshik posted:

Did anyone successfully chargeback through their credit card if they bought in through Kickstarter?

I got this email from RSI about my ticket telling them I was issuing a chargeback, my bank says it'll be another few months for their investigation so no word yet from them:

Holy poo poo I'm so glad I got my refund when I did.

# ? Dec 27, 2015 23:12

Tijuana Bibliophile: Dec 30, 2008; Scratchmo

Mirificus posted:

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/3ydwv5/sell_me_the_game_i_want_to_convince_a_friend_to/

that's pretty much my "why not to buy the game" list

# ? Dec 27, 2015 23:13

Google Butt: Oct 4, 2005; Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

That's a cool list of red flags

# ? Dec 27, 2015 23:14

peter gabriel: Nov 8, 2011; Hello Commandos

Mirificus posted:

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/3ydwv5/sell_me_the_game_i_want_to_convince_a_friend_to/

I've tried convincing exactly none of my friends to buy this as I value their friendship and they aren't people I met online

# ? Dec 27, 2015 23:14

Lowtax: Nov 16, 1999; by Skyl3lazer

Mirificus posted:

Yes welcome to Bizarro Internet

# ? Dec 27, 2015 23:14

peter gabriel: Nov 8, 2011; Hello Commandos

hey, would you like to buy this video game I am making? There is no publisher or deadlines
You can even upgrade your PC as well

# ? Dec 27, 2015 23:15

Google Butt: Oct 4, 2005; Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

LOL you had to spend $60 instead of $30 you idiot! Anyway want to man the turret in my idris?

# ? Dec 27, 2015 23:16

Decrepus: May 21, 2008; In the end, his dominion did not touch a single poster.

Google Butt posted:

LOL you had to spend $60 instead of $30 you idiot! Anyway want to man the turret in my idris?

Pay $30 more and get the game at full retail price or risk thousands of dollars by buying in-game items of undetermined value for a game which may never be completed.

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Tijuana Bibliophile: Dec 30, 2008; Scratchmo

peter gabriel posted:

hey, would you like to buy this video game I am making? There is no publisher or deadlines
You can even upgrade your PC as well

how many chris roberts you got

# ? Dec 27, 2015 23:21

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