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Shindragon posted:Just everything about this fight irritates me. I mean we see Ippo getting bested at everything and the coach is like KEEP MOVING FORWARD. It's like he almost doesn't give a poo poo about Ippo. Takamura's fights are much more entertaining. Hell goddamn Itagaki's smug rear end fighting was more entertaining and I hate him. Ippo's fights are a metaphor for the author's struggle to continue writing fights for Ippo and making him an interesting and likeable character. It's all very meta.
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BigLeafyTree posted:Ippo's fights are a metaphor for the author's struggle to continue writing fights for Ippo and making him an interesting and likeable character. It's all very meta. I don't think he's struggling with it very much at all. I think this is exactly what he wants to do and, while it's a major bummer, we as readers have to move on. To be fair to myself, aside from the anime I don't think I've read a page since woli and have been playing the ippo metagame of watching all yall mope.
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Jul 21, 2014 06:37
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DamnGlitch posted:To be fair to myself, aside from the anime I don't think I've read a page since woli and have been playing the ippo metagame of watching all yall mope. Oh, I thought I was the only one doing this, guess not 
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Jul 21, 2014 08:14
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Just got done reading the post-ww2 arc. I mean its a good piece of story telling and all but i cant help but get the feeling that Morikawas been hanging out at the Yasukuni shrine.
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Jul 21, 2014 20:41
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Jul 21, 2014 23:34
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Eustace posted:Just got done reading the post-ww2 arc. I mean its a good piece of story telling and all but i cant help but get the feeling that Morikawas been hanging out at the Yasukuni shrine. I'm not even American and that arc made me go holy *poo poo* this dude's got a supremacy hang-up. Matoi Ryuko posted:New chapter is out! It's on now!!! I assume you are talking about the raws for 1062? If anyone's interested, it just looks like the Metzli dude trying to recover during a 10 count. And then the chapter ends. I can't read Japanese though.
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Jul 21, 2014 23:47
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DamnGlitch posted:I don't think he's struggling with it very much at all. I think this is exactly what he wants to do and, while it's a major bummer, we as readers have to move on. It's sort of sad, but since the woli fight, I've enjoyed nearly every fight that ippo wasn't involved in.
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Jul 21, 2014 23:48
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Nilbop posted:I'm not even American and that arc made me go holy *poo poo* this dude's got a supremacy hang-up. Ah, I guess this chapter's been out longer than I thought.
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Jul 21, 2014 23:53
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Monaghan posted:It's sort of sad, but since the woli fight, I've enjoyed nearly every fight that ippo wasn't involved in. Well, after the woli fight, a.k.a. "the worst fight in forever" everything seems better.
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Jul 22, 2014 05:45
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Two new chapters up on mangastream. In these two chapters, Gonzales stands up! The excitement! Can it be contained?!? Oh and also This means my boxing is clearly effective at the world stage!
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Aug 3, 2014 14:33
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How the gently caress is this manga still going? I don't mean that from the perspective of how hasn't he ended it yet but rather how has it not been shitcanned? How are these ten page chapters where nothing happens deemed acceptable by anyone?
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Aug 3, 2014 14:48
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Inertia, it seems like. At this point I'm just hoping for an Ashita no Joe ending.
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Aug 3, 2014 17:11
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Simoom posted:How the gently caress is this manga still going? I don't mean that from the perspective of how hasn't he ended it yet but rather how has it not been shitcanned? How are these ten page chapters where nothing happens deemed acceptable by anyone? The depressing thing is that it seems like it would be easy to make this good. There are so many things that could happen in this fight that would make it more interesting. Trying to insist that Ippo's style is fine and he doesn't need to improve/change is incredibly dumb.
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Aug 3, 2014 19:31
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Ytlaya posted:The depressing thing is that it seems like it would be easy to make this good. There are so many things that could happen in this fight that would make it more interesting. Trying to insist that Ippo's style is fine and he doesn't need to improve/change is incredibly dumb. i liked back when it seemed like for every fight, ippo was being trained to deal with something the opponent was especially good at, and then added that to his repetoir of abilities making him better and better... that's just gone out the window for "dont die until the other guy does"
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Aug 3, 2014 22:29
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Simoom posted:How the gently caress is this manga still going? I don't mean that from the perspective of how hasn't he ended it yet but rather how has it not been shitcanned? How are these ten page chapters where nothing happens deemed acceptable by anyone? Cancel a long running series with a dedicated fan base? Yeah, that's not how the manga industry operates. These publishers live and die by these series, they don't care how lovely the quality is because people will always read it when it's an established franchise. Once a franchise builds clout the publisher will milk it until the creator doesn't want to write it anymore.
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Aug 4, 2014 00:03
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Chapter 1064 and Chapter 1065 are out. Yeah, don't go back to the style that was kicking your opponents rear end, stick with this one that's getting you hit. Obviously the half-dead guy will be able to overcome the old way when he couldn't in his best condition.
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Aug 13, 2014 12:34
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Does Morikawa even draw this poo poo anymore? How can the story be so poo poo when that's probably the only thing he has to do or some preliminary sketches maybe.
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Aug 13, 2014 13:25
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I hate both of these coaches. My God, they are terrible people.
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Aug 13, 2014 13:26
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Nilbop posted:I hate both of these coaches. My God, they are terrible people. And they are terrible coaches. One of them hasn't taught his fighter poo poo and just throws him at the meat grinder until the grinder gets tired and the other is rejecting sound strategy because he knows Ippo is the protagonist and has to win.
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Aug 13, 2014 14:00
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It seriously the worst logic I've ever come across. I won't tell him to calm down because if he gets hit he will go down. So I will let him continue to use the style that got him hit, and knocked down. RIGHT.
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Aug 13, 2014 14:21
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By now I'm pretty sure that Martinez is number one because he has to have the single coach in the world who is not a bloodthirsty imbecile. Seriously, wtf is going on with this poo poo?
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Aug 14, 2014 06:07
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Strategy has no place in boxing you fool! Why back in the good old days days they called it the sweet lack of science!
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Aug 14, 2014 06:47
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I'm still rooting for Gonzales. At least he wants to defeat the number 1, instead of attempting not to suck. Can we just do a late switch and make him the protagonist for the following 10 years of this manga?
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SirDan3k posted:back in the good old days days they called it the sweet lack of science! Gotta say this made me laugh more than it should've but it's such a good way of describing ippo's boxing
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Aug 14, 2014 22:04
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Fabricated posted:Again: Yeah, but Morikawa would make Homer win. But first Tatum (why the gently caress do I still remember that name? I haven't watched the Simpsons in a decade) would hit himself for six rounds, because that's his style, you see. Luckily, Homer was saved by Moe, who recognized that he was in danger, unlike some other coaches that should be left unnamed.
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Raws are out: Ippo and Gonzalez go back to inboxing, but unlike the beginning of the fight since Gonzalez is hurting he is now getting hit during the exchanges. Ippo gets him dead on with an uppercut and sends him reeling into the ropes, where he nearly blacks out and from the context of the panel probably has that Scratch J "oh right I wanna fight Martinez again" inner-monologue. Kamogawa keeps flashing back to the monkey-kid fight and I think when his trainer warns him about a "disaster" or something. Ippo rushes the dazed Gonzalez, who snaps to just and time to charge back. Last panel is Kamogawa reaching out in a panic like he's trying to warn Ippo or something.
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Fabricated posted:Raws are out: Ippo and Gonzalez go back to inboxing, but unlike the beginning of the fight since Gonzalez is hurting he is now getting hit during the exchanges. Ippo gets him dead on with an uppercut and sends him reeling into the ropes, where he nearly blacks out and from the context of the panel probably has that Scratch J "oh right I wanna fight Martinez again" inner-monologue. Kamogawa keeps flashing back to the monkey-kid fight and I think when his trainer warns him about a "disaster" or something. Ippo rushes the dazed Gonzalez, who snaps to just and time to charge back. Last panel is Kamogawa reaching out in a panic like he's trying to warn Ippo or something. Ippo! He's trying to punch you! Let him do it, and punch him back!
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I legit wonder if Morikawa will make Ippo lose just because he can't come up with a good reason to keep him from challenging Martinez.
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Aug 18, 2014 22:26
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But there is a good reason for him not to challenge Martinez, he sucks at boxing.
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Somewhere along the line Shonen spirit and guts got replaced with suicidal recklessness. I really hope they do something storywise with this, like Ippo getting some serious long lasting damage because of his style, because this is ridiculous.
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Aug 19, 2014 22:03
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It's awesome that Ippo keeps reminding himself of his training, but aside from being more durable and better at punching than he was at first he has no tactics. He didn't do any training specifically for Gonzalez, did he? Like figure out his patterns or come up with a plan of attack?
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Aug 19, 2014 22:57
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Apparently he always snaps and goes mad in fights but they watched no tapes at all so they didn't know. 
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KittenofDoom posted:It's awesome that Ippo keeps reminding himself of his training, but aside from being more durable and better at punching than he was at first he has no tactics. He didn't do any training specifically for Gonzalez, did he? Like figure out his patterns or come up with a plan of attack? It sorta worked when Morikawa remembered that Ippo actually trained for it, but then he forgot and Ippo started getting sandbagged trying to get close.
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Wild Horses posted:Apparently he always snaps and goes mad in fights but they watched no tapes at all so they didn't know. Research is dishonorable
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Aug 20, 2014 04:27
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Yes I believe the coach got him ready for this fight by playing wiggly stick, which I remember because Ippo reacted to getting smacked with the wiggly stick as if he were getting hit by a truck, unless I am misremembering.
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I was reading this article today http://fightland.vice.com/blog/jack-slack-the-z-boys-of-boxing and it struck me how "ippo-esque" real boxing can be.
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So, I'm guessing that I can't post a link to the latest RAWs, but Chapter 1069 just got released. The fight with Alf (which originally began in 2013) has finally concluded. Where will Mori go from here? Your guess is as good as mine. I won't spoil anything, or say anything else, but I'm very curious to hear about your reactions regarding the outcome. EDIT: Apparently even this attempt at a neutral comment is a "spoiler." Jedah fucked around with this message at 16:51 on Aug 26, 2014 |
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Jedah posted:So, I'm guessing that I can't post a link to the latest RAWs, but Chapter 1069 just got released. The fight with Alf (which originally began in 2013) has finally concluded. Where will Mori go from here? Your guess is as good as mine. I haven't read the RAW but, "I'm very curious to hear about your reactions regarding the outcome" is about as big a spoiler as you can write.. Not that I care, but come on.
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trucutru posted:I haven't read the RAW but, "I'm very curious to hear about your reactions regarding the outcome" is about as big a spoiler as you can write.. Not that I care, but come on. Yep, and this kind of nonsense is exactly why I don't post here anymore. I hate to break it to you, but that is not a spoiler. I'm not gonna sit here and argue about it, either. If you really feel that way, you better edit your post and add spoiler tags, because I just did.
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