Elyv posted:

um excuse me alpha cards have no story

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lists for duel decks: nissa vs ob nix are also out
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Elyv posted:

um excuse me alpha cards have no story

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lists for duel decks: nissa vs ob nix are also out
New art:

Elyv posted:

um excuse me alpha cards have no story

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lists for duel decks: nissa vs ob nix are also out
New art:

Errant Gin Monks posted:

gently caress yes crop rotation in standard. Lol

The Lord of Hats posted:

Okay, that Crop Rotation art/flavor text is super silly and I love it.

Entropic posted:

Duel decks aren't standard-legal.

whydirt posted:

Hahaha wow that's bad reprint value even by recent WotC standards

Sickening posted:

When I heard about this I was at least a little excited to get someone with experience at a high level to playtest magic cards. Then I thought about how that team is going to have their personal insider to new sets and it made me a little sad.

Jabor posted:

Is it depressing that at this point, I'd be more hype about Doom Blade?

BJPaskoff posted:

I didn't even think of that. I know people who work at Wizards and they're all tight-lipped because they don't want to jeopardize their dream jobs, but a play tester might not have that same professional courtesy. He risks a DCI ban if he leaks any info though, which is probably enough of a threat.

Jabor posted:

Is it depressing that at this point, I'd be more hype about Doom Blade?

Sickening posted:

Except he is human and his best friends are magic fanatics. I am sure a normal person would make sure everyone new his job was on the line but there is zero chance he isn't telling his inner circle the goods.

ThePeavstenator posted:

I'm finally going to buy into Modern. Any suggestions for decks? I'm not that worried about price or difficulty. Right now Kiki-Chord really has my eye. I know it's tier-two but I want to try a build with 4 Voice of Resurgence and 3-4 Kitchen Finks to make use of Eldritch Evolution as another way to fetch Kiki and/or Restoration Angel.

ThePeavstenator posted:

I'm finally going to buy into Modern. Any suggestions for decks? I'm not that worried about price or difficulty. Right now Kiki-Chord really has my eye. I know it's tier-two but I want to try a build with 4 Voice of Resurgence and 3-4 Kitchen Finks to make use of Eldritch Evolution as another way to fetch Kiki and/or Restoration Angel.

stinkles1112 posted:

The correct answer is Grixis Delver. The only way to play Magic is to draw a card and pass the turn

and counter lots of spells

Angry Grimace posted:

It has Jitte, Dark Depths and a foil Marit Lage token in it. It's the best value since 20.

ShaneB posted:

Jund. It's always good and sometimes great. And you'll have the mana base taken care of for tons of other decks.

ThePeavstenator posted:

I'm finally going to buy into Modern. Any suggestions for decks? I'm not that worried about price or difficulty. Right now Kiki-Chord really has my eye. I know it's tier-two but I want to try a build with 4 Voice of Resurgence and 3-4 Kitchen Finks to make use of Eldritch Evolution as another way to fetch Kiki and/or Restoration Angel.

Sickening posted:

Except he is human and his best friends are magic fanatics. I am sure a normal person would make sure everyone new his job was on the line but there is zero chance he isn't telling his inner circle the goods.

ThePeavstenator posted:

I'm finally going to buy into Modern. Any suggestions for decks? I'm not that worried about price or difficulty. Right now Kiki-Chord really has my eye. I know it's tier-two but I want to try a build with 4 Voice of Resurgence and 3-4 Kitchen Finks to make use of Eldritch Evolution as another way to fetch Kiki and/or Restoration Angel.

BJPaskoff posted:

It's not just his job though, if he does anything and is found out he's not only fired, but won't even be able to play Magic for years. I've known people who were hired and the threat of losing both their job and their hobby all for only the benefit of other people knowing things ahead of time made them cautious enough that they wouldn't even buy cards they knew were/weren't going to be reprinted because people would get suspicious. I'm not saying there's a 0% chance of him telling his former teammates something, but unless he's leaking an entire set there's little point for playtesting value. He's also just a play tester, so he won't always see the final versions of the cards.

BJPaskoff posted:

It's not just his job though, if he does anything and is found out he's not only fired, but won't even be able to play Magic for years. I've known people who were hired and the threat of losing both their job and their hobby all for only the benefit of other people knowing things ahead of time made them cautious enough that they wouldn't even buy cards they knew were/weren't going to be reprinted because people would get suspicious. I'm not saying there's a 0% chance of him telling his former teammates something, but unless he's leaking an entire set there's little point for playtesting value. He's also just a play tester, so he won't always see the final versions of the cards.

ShaneB posted:

Look I have to ask, why did the word "hyped" get changed to "hype"? Like "to be hyped" about something is now apparently "to be 'hype'" which like linguistically is just nonsensical.

It's like saying "I am amp up" instead of "I am amped up".

quote:

In your recent Odds and Ends, regarding Ulrich, you wrote "What we didn't pick up on was that for some players, the reason they wanted it was to use it to specifically play a tribal Werewolf deck." But the sentence before you stated that R&D knew that the request for a Legendary Werewolf mostly came from Commander players. My question is: couldn't you pick up the connection between the two? It seems quite obvious.

We optimized it to play in as many different Red/Green decks as possible to maximize how many Commander players could use it.

Hindsight is 20/20. Yes, it seems obvious now.

Angry Grimace posted:

Apparently MaRo and the entire design team have no idea who they are designing cards for:


Like how could he possibly have not figured out why people wanted a loving Legendary Werewolf - how

mandatory lesbian posted:

language prescriptivists kill yourselfs

Jabor posted:

Infect is good to start with. Almost every card in the typical 75 is either dirt-cheap by Modern standards, or is playable in other decks. And the only two exceptions (Pendelhaven and Might of Old Krosa) aren't even hugely expensive either, even if it bites a little bit to pay $10 each for a pump spell.

I guess Inkmoths might be a little narrow in that they only go into Affinity, but eh.

ShaneB posted:

Inkmoths are only going up, IMO. I can't imagine infect being in mm17. So it's never a really bad idea to own 4x.

mandatory lesbian posted:

language prescriptivists kill yourselfs

C-Euro posted:

Counterpoint is that Jund is the most expensive deck in the format. But the point about building it and then having components for other decks available is totally valid. I'd recommend buying one deck that you really like playing and then seeing where the pieces can take you. For example if you buy into UWR Resto-Kiki then you'll have Snapcasters, Bolts, and Paths that can go into other decks, to name a few examples (and to completely ignore the lands you'll now have available)

Elyv posted:

ShaneB posted:

Yeah, if he didn't say price wasn't an issue I wouldn't have suggested Jund. It's just always solid and always there and gets you many expensive pieces that are useful elsewhere (although some certainly aren't that useful outside of Jund/Junk).

I'm not sure I'd necessarily suggest infect unless you really love the way that kind of deck plays. I enjoy it, but that doesn't mean everyone would. Although, as said, most of the expensive pieces have wider application, especially Noble Hierarch and the manabase. One thing to realize, too, is that you only need 2 (or even 1) non-KTK fetch. There's absolutely zero reason to run 4 Misty Rainforest unless you already have them. As long as it fetches green you are good - I run 2x Verdant Catacombs because I have them in addition to my KTK fetches. Inkmoth at least is in Affinity, and as I said earlier has a pretty good chance of staying at the current price or rising.

I think if price is literally no object, and you just want to win as regularly as possible, you run Jund. If you want to match the deck to your playstyle, that's when decisions begin.

Angry Grimace posted:

Apparently MaRo and the entire design team have no idea who they are designing cards for:


Like how could he possibly have not figured out why people wanted a loving Legendary Werewolf - how

Jabor posted:

Infect is good to start with. Almost every card in the typical 75 is either dirt-cheap by Modern standards, or is playable in other decks. And the only two exceptions (Pendelhaven and Might of Old Krosa) aren't even hugely expensive either, even if it bites a little bit to pay $10 each for a pump spell.

I guess Inkmoths might be a little narrow in that they only go into Affinity, but eh.

80s James Hetfield posted:

What's funny is that they finally made the R/G Werewolf and made it completely unplayable

mcmagic posted:

Modern Jund is the deck you want to be playing to give yourself the best chance to go 3-2 in every 5 round tourney. You'll never have the best deck in the room unless you run really hot.

mcmagic posted:

Suicide Zoo.

BJPaskoff posted:

One of the guys from Team MetaGameGurus just got hired as a playtester, so maybe they're looking to change that by hiring a bunch of GP and SCG winners? I don't know if they hired anyone else from other parts of the world along with him.

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"As Team MetaGameGurus, we intend to establish the precedent of what it means to be a professional Magic player, and to be the harbingers of Magic into the modern era"

mcmagic posted:

Modern Jund is the deck you want to be playing to give yourself the best chance to go 3-2 in every 5 round tourney. You'll never have the best deck in the room unless you run really hot.