BlackMK4 posted:

http://www.cycleworld.com/2012/12/04/honda-rc1000v-concept-bike/
...boner.

Pope Mobile posted:

High Protein posted:

I can't stand this style of seat but other than that it's a cool hybrid of the XB and tuber/XR look.

Safety Dance posted:

Drum brakes are fine as long as you don't have to stop any time soon.

Source: hit the back of a Nissan using drum brakes

Gullous posted:

goddamnedtwisto posted:

might as well be one of those ridiculous things they make on American Chopper.

nsaP posted:

Me too, actually. One of my riding neurosis. I'd forgotten where it came from until you said that.

Meanwhile: The internet and gopros are awesome. I was poking thru maps looking for roads to hit up this year in Daniel Boone Forest and I went to youtube to search for some. The first one pulls up some alright video of a cruiser plopping along, it looked pretty good. The second one came up with this video, a guy on a VFR doing a decent pace.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pa3ld-Aigg

Don't expect anything amazing out of the video, it's just a dude riding a road, but it's still amazing to me that I can do all of this on a computer. Find a road and see it run at a decent pace with about 15 minutes of effort.

Internet Meme posted:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f48_1354735527

Ugh gently caress phones

nsaP posted:

He gave up the thinking thing well before that turn.

Z3n posted:

It's not so much understeer as it is poor line choice making him run wide. Turns in really early and just totally fucks himself by doing that.

ThatCguy posted:

What do you ride?

Modern bike and modern sports tires, you've got way more grip than you think. Don't go stupid on wet or cold roads, but otherwise, just trust the bike. Grab some leathers and knee pucks and just push on that handlebar. You paid for the full tire, use it.

clutchpuck posted:

Linedance posted:

I used to ride a 650 single and now ride a 1000 twin. With all that engine braking you don't tend to think about brakes that much.

nsaP posted:

even a ninja250 engine breaks well.

hayden. posted:

Yep that's the one, thanks!

Snowdens Secret posted:

Kawasaki and Honda were going for different things. Kawi tried to take a modern sportbike and make a few compromises for throwback looks, with the Zephyr, Z-rex and at least first-gen Z1000 as points on that spectrum. The ZRX is a very high-performance motorcycle and with suspension work is a heavy but very capable street/track bike. Of course, it's water cooled, which helps.

snail posted:

He's leaning out, locked inside arm.

snail posted:

(Sorry, another wall of text.)

Locking the arms means the rider has to move their whole torso to turn the bars, rather than pushing and pulling using free elbow movement. As bikes countersteer, locked arms means shoulders turn. The inside shoulder has to push forward, and in order to do that, they brace against the pushing arm and their torso moves out of the corner.

This has the effect of keeping their body vertical, which pushes the bike down into the corner producing more lean on the bike. Leaning the bike further means rolling the bike further onto the tyre edge, reducing available grip. This is why racers hang off a bike through a corner, to move the balance point of the bike off the bike, in order to keep the bike more upright. Bikes like being upright, that's their natural stable state.

That's not to say you should be hanging off the bike on the road (especially as a newbie). If you're doing that, you're probably going too fast.

Some of the other videos on rnickeymouse's channel show what I mean. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBB5HC7izfc(here's my content) contains a number of good ones. If you compare the two videos, you'll see these people have almost a 90 degree bend in their arms, and their bikes are more upright, far more stable, and I can guarantee going a lot faster. They are the more extreme examples though, but you can still apply the same theory that works into more advanced riding.

A technique I teach newbies is to rock on their buttcheeks (which is pretty much a parroting of the technique I've been taught in all my riding schools, be it track or advanced street riding). In sequence, it's pretty much:

0) Are your arms bent and can you flap them like a chicken? If not, relax the grip.
1) Decide on your line through the corner.
2) Make sure the ball of your inside foot is on the peg. Outside foot, hooked up with the boot heel. This keeps your foot off the road if you're going to lean a long way, and provides a hold through the outside boot.
3) Rock on your butt onto the cheek that's going to be inside the corner.
4) Keeping your arms loose, start your braking using your knees to hold the tank if you need to.
5) Release the brakes, and initiate the turn following the line you decided on in 1) by looking at the line you want to follow. Don't look at the ground in front of your bike. Look a far ahead as you can remember and that makes sense to you. If you're out-riding your vision and memory, once again, going too fast.
6) Stay on that butt cheek until you're upright after the corner.
7) Sit flat on the seat again.

From rocking on your butt through a corner, it's a straight progression to hanging off the bike for foolysik MotoGP-stylez cornering. The amount you'll move on the seat changes.

Nitramster posted:

Just go to a riding school. "Tips" are pointless, you might get 10% out of what an actual coach can teach you. Think about it: golfing, you get a pro to teach you a swing; any team sport, needs a coach to teach you where to look, footwork, shot movements; Skiing/snowboarding, you can watch your friends for an entire season but 1 or 2 sessions with a coach will tell you what you're doing wrong and get you a whole year ahead of where you were.

MSF to learn the basics and how to be safe on the road, after that save up for some good instruction. Also, in the meantime "Twist of the Wrist 2" can get you started (or at the very least show you how people crash like all the guys in rnickeymouse's videos)

nsaP posted:

I'd just watch some racing. I watch guys ride bikes fast on TV which pretty much makes me an expert on riding.

Legdiian posted:

This popped up on my newsfeed

XYLOPAGUS posted:

Speaking of celebrities on motorbikes: http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/mouthwatering-ryan-gosling-moments-of-the-year

I was browsing the retarded paparazzi pictures of this guy to find number 24. The dude has millions of dollars and wears gardening gloves on his DRZ?

snail posted:

That's what I meant. Try it in the chair right now, it'll make more sense.

The foot positioning isn't vital, it's just one of those things that helps setup the rest of the movement. Wax on, wax off, and the motion becomes automatic leaving mental capacity to focus on other things.

CONTENT: I now own this guy's CBR that was raced for HRC in Australia and he once held the motorbike lap record for Eastern Creek on it. The bike is in a lazy retirement with me onboard. Also, Brooksie is doing IoM this year and I'm curious to see how he rides the circuit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy4bZF6p04c

nsaP posted:

If you pay close attention to your weight distribution you might notice that it moves from your outside foot as your approach the corner to your inside foot as you accelerate out of it. As you figure out where to have your weight and when to shift it as you go thru the corner it will start making hanging off the bike feel a lot more natural.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk_tYr7grVc#t=6m13s (I tried to embed it but I got a dorna warning, though it doesn't show up if you click the link. Odd.)

I was joking before about how watching racing made me an expert, but you can see this with how a lot of the GP bike riders brake now. In this clip you see Rossi on the outside hanging a leg way off the peg when braking for the corner. While Lorenzo next to him still has his foot on the peg, his weight distribution to the outside peg would be similar. It's a side note, but he's pretty much the anomaly as far as leg-off-peg riders goes these days. Pretty much all the other riders do it regardless of whether the benefit from it is real or placebo. Lorenzo has said he never found it comfortable, but you'll also hear from other riders that he brakes a lot differently to most. Others brake heavy and late, whereas Lorenzo brakes earlier and lighter, and holds more corner speed. At least, that's what I remember from interviews with Spies, Crutchlow and Dovi.

HNasty posted: