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Alright, I am really bad at math. Could somebody help me figure out my odds here? Nevermind that the guy called my UTG raise with T-4s, or that I put myself in a tough position by raising.. http://www.pokerhand.org/?793734 Okay, this is how I do the math, although I could be completely wrong. He has 17 outs (8 to the straight, 9 to the flush) twice, so that would be 34/47 = 72% to complete a better hand than mine. I have 10 outs to fill up or improve to four of a kind, or 10 outs twice - 20/47 = 42% to improve to a made hand. Assuming I have done the math right so far, the part that gets tricky for me is the fact I don't know how to put the two together as far as my hand improving goes. Who is ahead in this situation?
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http://www.pokerhand.org/?794773 Do you think I made a correct move checking on the turn and then betting on the river like I did? My thinking was he certainly hit the flush, and my weakness shown on the turn would make him doubt my bet on the river and peg it as a bluff. Any comments would be mucho appreciated. Iridox posted:You can use Poker Stove to do this. You know what I have this program but am retarded and can't figure out how to use it.
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http://www.pokerhand.org/?797988 Is my move to transparent here? I never try this sort of thing, and this hand will probably prevent me from ever trying again  My basic thinking was either he was just C-betting AK - AJ or something, or he had a mid pocket pair, or J-9 or something. I figured I could push him off all three hand ranges so that is why I did it. He deliberated for a long time before calling so I think it almost worked but meh. Suggestions? faarcyde fucked around with this message at 06:06 on Feb 6, 2007 |
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Feb 6, 2007 06:02
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EC10 posted:This is basically every advice thread on 2+2, and every response I see is bet pot (maybe a little more) and if he comes over the top then fold. I would be inclined to agree because I don't think someone is going to try and push with JJ, TT or 99. However, you are on Cake so who freaking knows 
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Feb 7, 2007 18:32
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No; we ; are; the; web; site; is; two; plus; two; dot; com; right?
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Feb 7, 2007 23:17
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ElProducto posted:Faarcyde I'm not trying to stir up a bunch of poo poo but are you doing the whole 'bad advice' shtick just to be funny? This isn't the only thread that you've had some pretty strange advice in. No it isn't a schtick, I revoke my advice. EC10 explained to me why it was, I didn't consider pot odds because I am a donk. I think I have only given advice in like two other threads ever so I dunno, but I will stop
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Feb 8, 2007 01:49
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albedoa posted:Okay, link us to a thread where the consensus seriously advocates what you are saying. http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=9093363&an=0&page=0#Post9093363 This is the thread I was thinking of, but there positions are switched around that is why I gave some pretty horrible advice. If you were in position EC10 I would probably fold to a big bet on the flop. Sorry for the mix-up.
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Feb 8, 2007 01:58
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Everyone is so drat moody around here lately 
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Fat Turkey posted:
For the first one, I would recommend a standard raise in MP there. When retard #1 goes all in, I would push over the top to knock out Drawy McDrawster behind you. If he is going to call the $10 then you know he is going to call the following street as well, so you might as well raise all-in and try to knock him out. Take this with a grain of salt though because I often give crap advice.
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Feb 19, 2007 19:48
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Xyven posted:http://cakepoker.com/HandHistory/?Hand=xcTDwsTFxcHFwcTExMfMw4jFxsPFwcU%3d fold preflop in all seriousness, somehow i doubt he is checkraising 3-barrelling with something you beat unless he has balls the size of Australia.
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Mar 17, 2007 21:25
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Loveboat posted:I'm interested in hearing a few opinions about my line here. I don't have any advice but I would like to see results out of curiousity. 95 times out of a hundred I would say you are beat here.
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Mar 25, 2007 03:27
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albedoa posted:I'd say you're beat 80-85% of the time AFTER he calls. Yeah that is what I meant. I would bet the turn and check through on the river if I was in your spot.
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Mar 25, 2007 07:09
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deaders posted:Disagree... any real longterm winning ssnl reg will squeeze quite a lot, at least at 200nl. Nitty 15/11 types probably not though. Adar is 2+2 
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deaders posted:what? so am I, just disagreeing with him on that point. No, you don't understand. He is 2+2.
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albedoa posted:Are you saying deader's opinion on the subject can't be different? No, I was trying to be funny, but failed miserably. Since you ask though, I don't think "any real longterm winning SSNL player" has to squeeze "a lot." The move is so popular these days no one believes you. A useful tool, yes. Necessary to be a winning player? No.
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Mar 31, 2007 19:09
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duffman posted:One of the big hands from playing live 1-2 tonight: Effective stacks are $1800 in a NL200 game? 
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Apr 2, 2007 23:21
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http://www.pokerhand.org/?975638 Just kind of a crappy spot. On the turn when he raises I am pretty sure he has a set. I don't think he is raising with AQ or KQ for value here. My decision was to just call and see if he would check through on river. My line is extremely weak, but like I said, just a poo poo spot. Any thoughts?
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Apr 7, 2007 19:13
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Loveboat posted:Sounds like you WANT him to call a BIG BET rather than a SMALLER one. Yes, please leave. faarcyde fucked around with this message at 13:05 on Apr 9, 2007 |
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Apr 8, 2007 18:50
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Oof: I would call, simply because who would play a ten like that? The play just doesn't make any sense, and if he does have it you have a lot of outs to suck out. Any results?
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Apr 9, 2007 22:36
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Just call all the way down, fold to a stupid overbet or whatever. No need to bloat the pot with such a basic hand.
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Apr 10, 2007 03:12
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Arrg posted:I just played what I think was the best hand of my short poker career. 2nd hand of a 9 man $1.20 SnG. Wrong. Wrong. Right.
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Apr 13, 2007 04:25
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This isn't a particular hand, but a situation I often find myself in. Keep in mind the stakes are NL25 or NL50. Assume full stacks. Hero on the button. Guy in cutoff who runs a usual 25/17 or whatever raises, hero 3-bets pot with AQ of hearts. Folds around to cutoff who flat calls. Flop comes J72 two hearts. Villain donks into me for half pot, I call. He three quarter pots on a turn blank. Shoving often crosses my mind, thinking he can fold something like KJ, AJ, QJ, TT, 99 and maybe even QQ if I am lucky. I have 15 outs (although it is likely more like 12 or 13 if villain is leading with top pair good kicker). I guess a lot of this depends on the fact microlimit players will felt top pair top kicker without a second thought, which makes this position a little tricky. Does this qualify as an equitable move? Thoughts?
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Apr 21, 2007 21:57
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coiol posted:I folded, PFR called with 33 and beat BB's 76 when a 6 fell Call, if you are facing some dumb straight you have outs. Also, don't play full ring.
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May 1, 2007 00:29
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Biggy_ posted:http://cakepoker.com/HandHistory/?Hand=xcXGxcTFxcbNwMTExMTNwYjFx8bGzcY%3d Bet more on turn. With that board, it is pretty obvious he is drawing and you should be making him pay while trying to keep him in the hand. If he raises the turn, then it will be fairly obvious he has a set / some kind of stupid straight. There are so many cards that are dangerous for you on the river, its not a bad idea to try and take down the pot right then if at all possible.
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May 1, 2007 19:36
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EC10 posted:call or shove I vote for call.
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May 3, 2007 22:19
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Playing drawing hands out of position is one of the hardest things to do in poker. Even if you hit it is going to be hard to get paid off. I think people massively overestimate implied odds in these situations. To recap: OOP connected type hands are -EV!
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AR posted:$5 Turbo NL SnG Even though it is a little more than 10x the BB I just push here, raising and getting called when you have tens is tricky because it is pretty much going all in anyway if you bet and the guy raises you or even calls. So yeah use your fold equity and jaaaaam.
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