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i use the sweet theme because it covers every loving app under the sun at this point. i don't think i can go back to a time where every app has its own distinct ugly style anymore. even all the app icons are custom to fit in line with everything else, it's a really high effort theme
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I use nixos fyi
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 03:54 |
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 03:56 |
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Nostalgic for the 1999 when the world was dominated by super opinionated windows managers developed by one kid in their basement in like 100kb of source. Don't like your current? Just hit the next one in the list and give it a try. Or hack the source to do what you need. There were like a hundred of them available. I forget the site that linked to them all though.
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 04:21 |
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xzzy posted:Nostalgic for the 1999 when the world was dominated by super opinionated windows managers developed by one kid in their basement in like 100kb of source. Don't like your current? Just hit the next one in the list and give it a try. Or hack the source to do what you need. freshmeat?
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 05:03 |
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I remember in maybe 97/98 when I installed my first Linux, Enlightenment WM was recently released. It was easy to customize to look like a Winamp skin and years later when I played Eve Online the UI reminded me of Enlightenment. I don't remember how good or bad it was, but at that time it was one of the only WMs that paid any attention to visuals. It was the hottest poo poo for a teenager like me.
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 07:46 |
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Ha, that theme looks extremely familiar.
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 11:01 |
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Factorio's devblog has an interesting section this week on developing games for linux. https://www.factorio.com/blog/post/fff-408 Highlight: quote:Most desktop environments will allow windows to supply their own decorations if they wish but will provide a default implementation on the server side as an alternative. GNOME, in their infinite wisdom, have decided that all clients must provide their own decorations, and if a client does not, they will simply be missing.
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 12:36 |
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Desktop environments on the server side, you say…
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 12:39 |
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Well, that's a fundamental design feature of X11. Gnome are the silly ones here.
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 12:51 |
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gnome is working overtime to make gnome as polished a turd as possible so this doesn't surprise me at all
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 12:55 |
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xzzy posted:Well, that's a fundamental design feature of X11. Gnome are the silly ones here. Window decorations are not part of X11 on the server side, which is why when you gently caress up your xinit and start up an X server and Xterm on the stippled background you can’t move the terminal window. they’re provided by the window manager, which is a (privileged) client to the X server—if they were part of the server they’d be the same between desktop environments, because they all use the same server
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 13:03 |
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Oops, sorry, yeah. I used to be a lot smarter. I got window manager and server crossed up in my dumb brain.
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 13:23 |
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lobsterminator posted:I remember in maybe 97/98 when I installed my first Linux, Enlightenment WM was recently released. It was easy to customize to look like a Winamp skin and years later when I played Eve Online the UI reminded me of Enlightenment. I don't remember how good or bad it was, but at that time it was one of the only WMs that paid any attention to visuals. Which version of Fallout is this?
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 13:24 |
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Subjunctive posted:Window decorations are not part of X11 on the server side, which is why when you gently caress up your xinit and start up an X server and Xterm on the stippled background you can’t move the terminal window. they’re provided by the window manager, which is a (privileged) client to the X server—if they were part of the server they’d be the same between desktop environments, because they all use the same server And every other GUI (Windows, macOS) makes individual applications draw their own decorations for good technical reasons. One of the reasons Wayland was created was specifically this issue, and the fact that KDE rolls back to X11 style window decorations is weird grognardy behavior on their part.
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 13:36 |
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pseudorandom name posted:And every other GUI (Windows, macOS) makes individual applications draw their own decorations for good technical reasons. One of the reasons Wayland was created was specifically this issue, and the fact that KDE rolls back to X11 style window decorations is weird grognardy behavior on their part.
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 20:29 |
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lobsterminator posted:I remember in maybe 97/98 when I installed my first Linux, Enlightenment WM was recently released. It was easy to customize to look like a Winamp skin and years later when I played Eve Online the UI reminded me of Enlightenment. I don't remember how good or bad it was, but at that time it was one of the only WMs that paid any attention to visuals. That really whips the llama's rear end
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