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Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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I've been playing bass for about 16 years now and finally have my own upright. Engelhardt ES-1 Supreme. Got it for a great deal and it's in perfect shape. Old bluegrass guy bought it and hosted a jam night weekly for a few years in his house so it's basically mint. Plays and sounds great. My jazz chops are coming back quickly after not touching an upright since college. gently caress yes

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Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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He had some Labella nylons on their that are brand new looking. I'm going to throw some Spirocores on it soon though.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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Thought I'd share my franken-J-bass with you guys. It's a MIA Fender body that was stripped down and spray painted a few times, then stripped down and stained/clear coated with a MIM neck that just felt and played much better than the MIA one. I also added a custom finger ramp between the pickups that I absolutely love. This thing has seen a ton of gigs and travel when I was in a band in college and is still my favorite bass of all time. I do want to replace the electronics and upgrade the sound, but for playability this is just My Bass. Also pictured is my early 2000s Bassman amp, which is the best sounding rig I've ever heard. The enhance circuit is some real magic with the tone knob and both pickups on full.

Sorry for the poor lighting








Bottom Liner fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Jan 17, 2018

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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Fanned frets do amazing things for E and B strings. Both sound and feel-wise.

Anyone got an old fretless lying around? Or know of a good cheap replacement neck for a j bass?

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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tarlibone posted:

I just checked their site, and they have a P-bass-width, unlined fretless neck for sale. Not bad quality; Musician's Friend has them for around $110 or so. For a new neck, that's hard to beat.

I don't mind P bass necks, but would that fit a J body?

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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DEUCE SLUICE posted:

No one should feel bad about playing a lined fretless. Sometimes you just plain can't hear yourself onstage.




It only gets stainless DR HiBeams because you can always resurface a fingerboard.

edit:

and while I'm plant posting here's the owner of that toasty neck, (mostly) finished putting it together the other night



Classy AF

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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DEUCE SLUICE posted:

It's pretty sad Carvin went under. The B1000 was the best deal out there. Capable of 900w @ 2ohm, 6lbs, $350.

I have an R1000 and 18” can sitting by my desk. Thing is loud as hell and the 18” is real magic.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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Speaking of, here's a family pic






Think I'm going to throw a fretless neck on the Jazz and get a P bass deluxe for my normal playing needs. The upright has been incredible btw, putting in a solid 1-2 hours a day on it learning songs, practicing scales and getting comfortable on the neck, and getting noticeably stronger and louder.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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I played with it before and while it gives you some interesting chord voicings the tradeoff is it absolutely kills your left hand to play anything scalar/melodic. Same reason uprights are tuned in 4ths vs other strings in 5th; the reach is just too far and makes things harder to play.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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Best way I’ve found to foam is to just bend two pieces into a taco shape and shove it between the E/A and D/G strings. Takes way less foam, it self tensions, and looks way less obtrusive.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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What's the go to DI/compressor combo these days? Still tech 21 sansamp?

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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Can anyone help me dissect the tone in the first ~15 seconds of this video? She's playing flats on a fretted jazz bass with no muting but holy poo poo the tone is the closest I've ever heard an electric sound to an upright. Both pickups are full and tone is like 1/3rd, but what about her EQ? Boosted low mids with everything else dropped?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz7UtVRH4Ao

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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Lmao already did email her and asked

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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It has very little boomy low end in the eq, it's a hollow and acoustic sound with lots of highs but no clinkiness, and a lot of finger/string noise for the tone knob to be so low. The sustain is also very different from a normal jazz bass sound, especially fretted. Maybe just really dead flatwounds?

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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Dyna Soar posted:

Yeah I've played in an old bomb shelter, we had to carry everything 3-4 stories downstairs. Even the cabs, no elevators. Those places are rare though. I mean most guys here probably don't tour for a living, I'm just saying that if you do 10-20 gigs per year like me hauling that 60 lbs amp around is not a huge deal.

Don’t care what kind of music you played, that’s the most metal show that ever happened :black101:

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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You can always string a 4 string BEAD for metal too.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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If you haven't worked through most of the Motown catalog that should be square one for any bassist. Not even kidding, learning those licks and analyzing the lines and how they fit in the song will make your playing better in every genre. The lineage makes perfect sense for your taste as well; Roger Glover's biggest influence was Paul McCartney and McCartney's was Motown's James Jameson.

Bottom Liner fucked around with this message at 06:07 on Jan 31, 2018

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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THOMASTIK-INFELD JF344 JAZZ FLATS

Favorite strings of all time and worth every penny. I think it's the pure nickel magic in them.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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Honestly if you're not mistreating them severely flats should last years. They sound better with age too. If you're not confident about your stringing technique then sure, they should have someone that will do it. Maybe with a fee, but that should include some kind of warranty.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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Anyone played the MIM Road Worn series? It's got the old school 7.25" neck which I love. Just curious if they're worth the premium pricing ($999 MSRP). Speaking of, why are the MIM prices all so high these days? When bought my first MIM Jazz it was $299 MSRP, now that's double and Squiers are $299. American Deluxe models were like $1200, now they're around $2k. Did the quality jump up a tier across the board or what? What makes the Road Worn series worth $999 over the standard $599?

But for real, what a sexy bass

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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Fair enough (I get the relic hate sentiment), but still, why the massive price increases across the Fender line? Other companies seemed to rise with inflation, not double or more like Fender.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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It's a pretty unique instrument and yes. The intonation challenge will make you a better musician all around by forcing you to work on your ear.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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A MIRACLE posted:

Any reason to avoid the Squier Vintage modified fretless? I've had good luck with the nicer squier guitars in the past. My 60's strat is great

play it before you buy, the squier line has bad quality control and while some play and feel great some feel like crap

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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Only thing I would recommend is teaching scales vertically before teaching horizontally. Being able to work across an octave in one position is much more useable 90% of the time. Then again, a lot of people get stuck there and never work on playing horizontally and shifting so that might work in his favor.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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What are the go to passive pickups these days? I need to replace my old J's.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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MIA Jazz, just want a good classic sound with thump and growl.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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Holy poo poo, do they not make basses anymore? They were always my favorite custom shop like a decade or so ago.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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Speaking of, I need a pickup for my upright. Any suggestions?

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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String spacing can be wider than a lot of basses too. And he’ll yeah, precision’s rule. What flats are you using? Just ordered some Labella deep nylons.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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Anyone know the Fender spec for string height for their resalers? I went into a Guitar Center today to eyeball some basses and every Fender they had there had action higher than my upright :lol: Also, are all Fender maple fingerboards glossy finished? They look great but the one I played today had a super tacky feel that I hated compared to my rosewood Jazz neck.

I also fooled around with some other basses and their Ibanezs all had great setups and I played one of their 5 string fretless prestige models and it was pretty fantastic. Not a fan of those tiny Soundgear bodies with a neck that big though, neck dive like crazy. Also played one of those Ibananez singlecuts and I wasn't a of the shape or size, at least for sitted playing. It was a 6 string and the neck was so flat I swear it looked almost concave which felt awful, and I used to play a Conklin 7 string!

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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Kilometers Davis posted:

Is my technique super good or what? I’ve never had a problem with glossy fretboards and unless I’m doing certain bends on a guitar I never touch them in the first place. Just curious.

If you've ever been sweaty on stage you'd know how tacky gloss or painted necks and boards can get. The neck I played today was high gloss on the FB and back of the neck, so I was referencing both.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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Juaguocio posted:

It's amazing how much sweatier you can get at a gig vs. practice. Nervous energy plays a big part of it, I guess.

I really like the wenge neck on my Dingwall for that reason. It doesn't get sticky at all no matter how humid things get.

Ask me about playing a dive bar show with 400 people crammed into a tiny area and a leaky roof with trash bags taped to it as tarps because it was storming outside in the middle of August and the AC was broke. A lot of people got sick from the heat/humidity in that place that night. New Brookland Tavern in Columbia SC if anyone is familiar with it.
:argh:

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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How fool proof a process is it to do yourself (buffing down to smooth out a lacquering)? Also, is maple just a softer wood that can't handle being raw and oiled and needs a lacquer? Is the brighter tone mostly from the wood or the wood + lacquer? I have zero experience with maple but I love the look and I'm trying to get my hands on a maple board p bass but I feel like I'm gonna have to find something older and well worn for it to be comfortable to my tastes.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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Canva.com

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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Need more bass porn up in here




drool

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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Hung the electric up in the practice room finally. Been playing the poo poo out of that thing again since getting into the upright. Also found out a high school friend found one of my original Fenders in a random pawn shop and bought it. He recognized it somehow and sure enough when he took the neck off my name was written in sharpie. We graduated 14 years ago! Can't wait to check it out when I go back home next.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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DEUCE SLUICE posted:

Plus, nowadays you can get into a Stambaugh for much cheaper than a "Pro" teambuilt or masterbuilt Warwick.

Am I reading their price list correctly that custom 4's start under 2k? That's insane.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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I might be talking with him about a fretless soon, that's incredible. A 4 string of this is really close to what I've always wanted.




edit: anyone with a good eye know what strings these might be?

Bottom Liner fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Mar 6, 2018

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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If you can find an older Fender Bassman combo they have some fantastic sound. The 100 is a sweet spot for size/volume. My 60 watt from about 2002 is one of the best tones I've ever heard.

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Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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alternatively you can just use a 1/4 to 1/8 adapter and plug the guitar cable straight into a Bluetooth speaker with an aux input jack and play just fine. I do that all the time by the pool.

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