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Wizard of the Deep
Sep 25, 2005

Another productive workday

SurgicalOntologist posted:

Wait, the NAS needs to know its IP address? I didn't have to do that with the other servers I set up. Just told IT the MAC address and where it's plugged in and they gave me an IP.


Yes I think that's what it is. On the server in my office it's always the same IP at least.

Yeah, I saw that somewhere. Strangely, I get nothing on port 5000. Just the Apache welcome message on 80. Could I have accidentally triggered some kind of reset?

Anyways, I'll grab it tomorrow and bring it home for the weekend. Something definitely seems wrong though. Maybe they screwed up with the IP address request and I'm actually hitting another server in the same room.

I have the same model, and it can use a reserved DHCP address, but a couple of the DSM features want it to have a static address in there. No reason you couldn't just set the static IP to the same thing as the reserved DHCP address, as long as you told the network admins to not delete the reservation.

When I try to hit the interface for my 412+ on port 80, it automatically redirected me directly to port 5001, which is what it uses when you have HTTPS enabled. If you're seeing a default Apache welcome screen, you're either hitting a different server, or somehow activated the Apache server package.

It will probably be easier to set up at home, where you just have the one home router serving DHCP. Worst case scenario, you can log into your router and see what it gave out for an address. The 412+ has two network ports, make sure you gave your network admin the right MAC address(es).

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Wizard of the Deep
Sep 25, 2005

Another productive workday
You replace the hardware and restore from backup. RAID/NAS is not backup.

If it's important enough that downtime is unacceptable (instead of just inconvenient), you have redundancy: Either built into your rackmounted NAS or through mirrored NASes. If availability is really important, the mirrored NASes are geographically separated.

Thanks for being a warning sign for me, Bob Morales. Gonna set up Amazon Glacier on my Synology tonight.

Wizard of the Deep
Sep 25, 2005

Another productive workday
As long as the router is configured correctly (not forwarding any ports to the Synology), and the device itself isn't set up to access any internet services (and the configuration options are really obvious), then there's no way in from outside.

If the hackers come to the front door, the Synology inside the house can't even hear the doorbell ringing, much less answer it.

Wizard of the Deep
Sep 25, 2005

Another productive workday

TLG James posted:

I'm having a really weird issue with my synology. Just started.

I have a folder called "Games" on it. When I click on it in Windows, it just freezes. It's under my Z drive.

If I bring it up under as a network drive, it works fine \\192.168.1.X\Network Drive\Games

It also works fine if I rename it to Games2 or whatever. I can also get to it in MS-DOS fine. I'm not sure if this is a windows issue or a NAS issue. All the other folders are fine. I'm thinking it's a windows issue, but I have never seen something like this. Rebooting didn't help

Does the same thing happen from another PC? How big is the share? Have you tried deleting the mount and recreating it? Have you tried deleting the thumbs.db?

Wizard of the Deep
Sep 25, 2005

Another productive workday
Thumbs.db is a hidden file. As you can probably guess by the name, it's where the file system stores the thumbnails it automatically generates for files in the directory.

Are there any errors in the event logs?

Wizard of the Deep
Sep 25, 2005

Another productive workday
I run PiVPN on the same Raspberry Pi that runs PiHole for me, and access my pornfiles on the go that way. That means I can get PiHole adblocking away from home, too.

Wizard of the Deep
Sep 25, 2005

Another productive workday

Selachian posted:

University archive stuff



Archival storage like what you're describing is really a little out of the scope of this thread. But only a little. A lot of the discussions here are closer to passion and learning projects, which the storage needs you're considering absolutely aren't. Here, the stakes are as low as the budget.

You'll need to have your IT team involved from the beginning. For robust, dependable storage, they need to have a seat at the table from the start. Commercial/industrial storage at scale isn't cheap, and it doesn't look like most of the discussions above.

To be clear, you absolutely could build a frankenbox with shucked 12GB WDs. But realize that doing so will bring dishonor on your whole family, on you, and on your cow.

Talk with your IT team(s). Tell them you need big, slow storage. Let them come back with prices, and realize that those prices are probably some of the best available to you. You'll need to handle the conversion (probably with interns/grad students/work study victims), but leave the storage to the team built for dealing with it.

It may make sense to have a smallish NAS to serve as a local "landing pad", before it gets shuffled off to the big arrays. That'd be something like a QNAP or a Synology sitting in your building, before pushing it to the server room. That's the scale this thread can help you with, but your options may be limited by available vendors and procurement requirements.

You wouldn't expect the IT folks to know how handle archiving a literal ton of old manuscripts, would you? In the same way, let the IT team(s) do what they're trained (heh) and paid (heh) to do.

If you absolutely know a retrieval time measured in days is acceptable, consider Amazon's Glacier or Azure Cold Storage tiers. With those, you can move all the headache of hardware straight to the guys who have the biggest scale at the expense of getting the data back quickly.

Wizard of the Deep
Sep 25, 2005

Another productive workday

DrDork posted:

While you're absolutely right, having dealt with some educational institutions in the past, asking for a $50,000+ solution plus maintenance usually takes either an internal sponsor with a bunch of pull, or someone with grant money. Absent that, it's the old standby of making things work on shoestring budgets.

But, yeah. If $50k+ wouldn't get you laughed out of the room, everything Wizard said is correct and The Right Way to do it.

You're absolutely right. My (poorly-explained) point was to get some cost scope first, then sell it to the internal sponsor/grantor. Starting with the budget instead of the realistic costs will almost certainly result in a budget that's far too small, because consumer storage costs have poisoned the well for dependability at scale.

The other piece of advice is "make friends with at least one person in the IT department", where you can spitball things without having full meetings and agendas and project managers. Y'know, so you can actually get things done.

Wizard of the Deep fucked around with this message at 01:37 on May 27, 2020

Wizard of the Deep
Sep 25, 2005

Another productive workday

D. Ebdrup posted:

This is absolutely untrue, although there is an enterprise storage thread, but for a university that's absolutely outside of the budget, so this thread is a fine place to ask.

The distinction I was drawing is this thread is for hacky-rear end poo poo that's fine for home stuff and building a lab out of spare commercial parts. It's not for long-term archive that's expected to be managed by teams on an on-going basis.

I'm really just building up the necessary supporting documentation for seven years from now when Selachian comes back in tears because there's no way to recover lost files from some jigsaw puzzle of an archive I can say "I told you so".

Wizard of the Deep
Sep 25, 2005

Another productive workday
Yea, I use Glacier as long-term storage and backup of last resort. It's for if my house burns down.

Wizard of the Deep
Sep 25, 2005

Another productive workday
My Alienware M11x Gen1 with a Core 2 Duo from 2010 works just fine as a print server running Windows 10, thank you.

Wizard of the Deep
Sep 25, 2005

Another productive workday


BlankSystemDaemon posted:

The only thing about syncthing that I don't like is that on Unix-likes, it decides that things should go in /Sync. :mad:

That Works isn't bidding your data adieu.

Wizard of the Deep
Sep 25, 2005

Another productive workday

Former Human posted:

Seagate has had the worst reputation in the hard drive business for many, many years for a reason. Some of the larger Seagate drives have higher than 6% failure rate after 9.8 months average according to Backblaze, which is atrocious.

I think older Toshiba drives are just as bad but I don't know anyone who owns one.

In the realm of anecdata, I had a 150% failure rate with some 1TB Seagates when they were new. I've avoided Seagates since then.

Wizard of the Deep
Sep 25, 2005

Another productive workday

Aware posted:

That sounds totally nuts to me, is it weaker than a raspberry pi?

Probably. On Synology devices, the last two numbers are generally the model year. So mobby_6kl is running a device from 2015, or 7 years ago. Synology devices generally use the lower-power CPUs to keep the cost down. So a seven year old budget CPU is what's running a bunch of torrents simultaneously will definitely use every single hertz of processing power.

So mobby_6kl, if you have an older computer or laptop, or maybe even set up a spare Pi, you could use that as a landing zone before transferring it to the NAS. The CPU is fine for running a simple web host and moderate data management tasks, but that many torrents is going to be a bit much.

Wizard of the Deep
Sep 25, 2005

Another productive workday
More than that, the population buying the biggest volume of servers doesn't value fast start-up time. The devices are designed to be powered up and functional for months or years at a time, and full power cycles are relatively rare. The resolution for long start-up times for those buyers isn't "overbuild the specific functions that will see use maybe once a month", it's "buy more servers and stagger the downtime".

Do you care how fast the oil in your car can be changed?

Wizard of the Deep
Sep 25, 2005

Another productive workday
That sounds like a bum unit. Could be bad RAM or a failing hard drive.

I thought you could just pull all the HDD out and it would start fresh, but I've never actually done that.

Wizard of the Deep
Sep 25, 2005

Another productive workday

Haha, that's impressively dumb. Like "I saw what happened when Tumblr hosed that wasp nest, but I'm sure I'll be fine!"

Wizard of the Deep
Sep 25, 2005

Another productive workday
You want a combination of iCloud (which is really loving cheap for how far the storage goes) and a TimeMachine-compatible NAS. Get an off-the shelf unit; don't hack poo poo together for a home you're not it. I know Synology says it supports it, but I haven't tried it. I don't think Apple offers it as a stand-along device any more?

Wizard of the Deep
Sep 25, 2005

Another productive workday

kri kri posted:

Big boy Nas is when you outgrow the QNAP :agesilaus:

Conversely, the Adult NAS is tucked away in a closet, and should eventually be left in the woods for young teens to find and furtively exchange.

Wizard of the Deep
Sep 25, 2005

Another productive workday

DerekSmartymans posted:

I have a Cyberpower 1500 on my desktop; what issues are these? I haven’t heard anything but I joined the thread recently and only read the first/last four pages. I’m on vacation right now, and the only things left turned on in my room is my T-Mobile base station and Cyberpower UPS.

A year or two ago some CyberPowers started spontaneously combusting. Apparently they used either the wrong glue or the wrong amount of glue on a certain connection inside the unit, and it would short and catch fire. I don't think there was ever a recall on them?

Wizard of the Deep
Sep 25, 2005

Another productive workday
If you're using RDP that means you're either on Win10 pro or hacked Home to enable RDP. There's a checkbox in Pro that should disable updates, and there used to be a registry entry for Home, too.

Inept posted:

IMO figure out what's breaking RDP instead

But yea, this is the right answer.

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Wizard of the Deep
Sep 25, 2005

Another productive workday

Henrik Zetterberg posted:

Suggestions for a UPS that can talk to my 8-disk Synology about gracefully shutting down in the event of a power loss?
And I have a NUC right next to it running Win11. I assume the UPS would have Windows software to do the same? Can you USB 2 machines into 1 UPS with control like that?

I don't need something that has like a 6 hours runtime or whatever. Just long enough for a graceful shutdown.

My Synology Just Works™ when I plug an APC UPS into the USB port. Control Panel > Hardware & Power > UPS gives control over everything, and it picks up everything included estimated runtime on Device Information.

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