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FCKGW
May 21, 2006

td4guy posted:

Does anyone know where the Western Digital RE4-GP WD2002FYPS 2TB drives are available for purchase?

Frys has had them since launch.

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FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Does anyone have an old 2gb stick from their N40L they're looking to sell? I just picked up one up on Craigslist for cheap and am looking to upgrade the ram.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

necrobobsledder posted:

You're talking about that ECC UDIMM right? I'm taking my 2GB and 1GB (Newegg gave me one) UDIMMs and replacing them with standard DDR3 spares. 2GB was what was on my N36L

Yeah, I was going to pick up a 2gb stick or 4gb kit but figured someone probably has already upgraded and I might as well pick up another ECC chip.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

I guess it depends on where you live. Here's my rates in SoCal



I've never not end up in Tier 5 either.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

WD introduced a new "Red" line of drives today specifically for NAS users.



http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=810

1, 2, 3TB configs and 3yr warranty.

These are WD drives with firmware that is specific for NAS use. A lot of features borrowed from their RE line with some new stuff thrown in. Performance is somewhere between Blue and Black territory while power consumption is comparable to the Green drives (if I'm reading that right). They've also been pre-qualed with all major vendors.

Anand has an overview: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6083/wd-introduces-red-nas-optimized-hdd-line
Storage Review has a quick review: http://www.storagereview.com/western_digital_red_nas_hard_drive_review_wd30efrx

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

The PC Perspective article says that it's 4k and that TLER is enabled

http://pcper.com/news/Storage/Western-Digital-releases-Red-series-SOHO-NAS-hard-drives

FCKGW fucked around with this message at 22:58 on Jul 10, 2012

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Delta-Wye posted:

Fellow packrats, if you were buying new drives to upgrade your NAS, would you be willing to go with one of these green drives?

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004VFJ9MK/

I understand the line between "don't bother replacing, but don't buy new". The price is certainly right, but they are WD green drives. Right now my ZFS-based system has 4 320GB drives and it's time to expand. I think at least a couple are already WD green drives and I haven't seen much in the way of problems with them. At $100 a piece, I can stand to get 4 right now and triple my storage space.

If there is something more suitable I'd be willing to consider it. Those new Red drives look fancy, but I'm sure they'll be more $$$ and I'm not sure if I'll really need the features.

Newegg has the Red drives in stock now, looks like about $10 premium over their 2TB Green ($30 over your Amazon link).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236343

PcPer has a full review now too http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Storage/Western-Digital-Red-3TB-SATA-SOHO-NAS-Drive-Full-Review/Conclusion-Pricing-and-Thoug

FCKGW fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Jul 13, 2012

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

For anyone still on the fence about Crashplan:

Crashplan is running a special for one free year of their online Crashplan Central backup service which usually runs $5/mo. This deal is good for one computer only, but if you have multiple PCs in the house backup to that one computer, you can have everything online. I have this installed on a Windows Home Server box that backs up my important docs and pictures.

I've used Crashplan for a little over a year now and it's great. You can setup PC-to-PC backups on your LAN and also setup to external or online back. Online backups are unlimited in storage and upload/download speed. If you have a large amount of files you can even mail them a harddrive to pre-seed your backups without waiting weeks to do it. It's also cross-platform and they have clients for Windows, Mac and Linux.

This deal is supposed to be for Carbonite users, but it works on all new or currently free plan customers. Crashplan has the right to revoke the deal at any time blah blah blah.

https://www.crashplan.com/carboniteswitcher/

  • Must be a Carbonite customer
  • This offer is available in the continental US only.
  • This offer is not available to current or previous CrashPlan customers (users who have paid for licenses.)
  • CrashPlan Free or users still in their 30-day trial period are eligible.
  • Only one Free 1-year 1-computer plan or $50 Family Plan per customer. May not be combined with any other offers.

quote:

We're so sure you'll like CrashPlan better than Carbonite, we're giving switchers a free year!
Yep. One computer, backing up an unlimited amount of personal files with no restrictions, costs nothing for one full year. Backup doesn't get any better than that! And if you've got multiple computers, our Family Plan is only $50 for the first year!

CrashPlan backup is better because you get up-to-the-minute protection every time you change a file. You can restore deleted files even after 30 days and restore files that you backed up to friends and family in addition to what you backed up online. Unlike Carbonite, CrashPlan backup doesn't get slower as your backups get bigger.

Also, the Crashplan Family plan (2-10 machines) is only $50/yr with that link instead of the normal $120/yr.

FCKGW fucked around with this message at 03:51 on Sep 12, 2012

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

IT Guy posted:

Sorry I haven't been keeping up with this thread so this may have been asked. Is there any difference between the N40L and N54L other than the processor?

CPU is the only difference, yes. I don't think the board changed at all.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

The HP N54L is only $239.99 after rebate right now from Newegg. I have an N40L right now and am tempted to upgrade to handle some transcoding issues.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16859107921

On sale for $339.99, use promo code AFNJ0379 to get an additional $50 off, bringing it down to $289.99. $50 mail-in rebate gets it down to $239.99 when all is said and done.

Rebate offer expires tomorrow.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

I'm running an N40L with WHS 2011 on 4gb ECC ram. If I want to go to 8gb should I stick with ECC or does it not matter? This is a personal home server, my important stuff is offsite as well.

FCKGW fucked around with this message at 18:21 on Mar 29, 2013

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Tivac posted:

I used to have one of the HP MediaSmart machines running WHSv1 & it was glorious. That box's mobo died on me & I have been pining away for a replacement ever since.

I really don't want to gently caress around w/ my data in Linux, and the drive pooling stuff in WHS was amazing. I know there's a few 3rd party options out there now for doing that, do any of them work?

Synology NAS boxes seem like they'd be nice but the custom filesystem & price are turning me away. Would a custom mini-itx system be reasonable?

Sorry, lots of somewhat undirected questions. From my perusing most of the folks in this thread are running linux-based systems so we'll see if this is even really the right place to be asking.

I moved from a home built WHSv1 box to a HP N40L with WHS 2011 and Stablebit Drive Pool and couldn't be happier.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

You can backup whatever with CrashPlan+. I'm doing the exact scenario you are explaining right now: 3 machines back up server, server backs up everything online.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Ninja Rope posted:

Last I checked Spideroak only had a single site/datacenter. Dropbox uses Amazon but who knows if they're in multiple availability groups or not. Does anyone know if crashplan has multiple sites or not? It seems unlikely.

While it's not common to lose a whole datacenter worth of servers (baring an FBI raid or natural disaster), it certainly possible the whole site could be offline and your files inaccessible for a time, if that is of concern to you.

Crashplan's FAQ states "We are the offsite data storage for our customers. We store our customers' data in highly secure data center facilities around the world." which seems to indicate there's more than one datacenter.

EDIT: Their enterprise site says they have multiple datacenters around the world.
http://www.crashplan.com/enterprise/scalability.html3


EDIT2: There's a pretty blinking graph right on their about page, ha!
http://www.code42.com/about.html

FCKGW fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Apr 18, 2013

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Mr Shiny Pants posted:

It seems like the new HP Microserver G8 is coming out in a short while.

It's Intel based and seems to support ECC ram. Don't know the Max but 32GB would be awesome.

The chipset is supposed to support 32GB, but they might cripple it artificially like they did with the SATA ports in the old one.

Can't find a picture online, found it through Facebook of all places.

It looks pretty good to be honest.

Here's what I found

http://blog.themonsta.id.au/hp-proliant-g8-microservers-leaked/


FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Splinter posted:

Crashplan question: I'm backing up data from one computer to my server, then have the server configured to send that backup folder to crashplan central. However, crashplan only thinks that folder has ~1KB of data to backup, despite it saying there's 80GB backed up right below in the inbound section.

Both computers are setup using the same crashplan account. Is that the problem? Do I need the family plan to use crashplan like this? Would it work on the non family plan if I created a separate account for the server? Or should it work as is and I just have it configured wrong?

I'm currently on the free trial if that matters.

I'm using the same setup as you with no issues. I have 5 computers backing up to my server, mixed PC and Mac and some offsite even. The server backs up that folder to Crashplan online. All the same account.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

WD released new Red drives today, a 4tb 3.5" drive and a 1tb 2.5" drive.

StorageReview has reviews of both up.
http://www.storagereview.com/wd_red_4tb_hdd_review_wd40efrx
http://www.storagereview.com/wd_red_25_1tb_hdd_review_wd10jfcx

Also PCPerspective gave it a really good review as well
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Storage/Western-Digital-Red-35-4TB-and-25-1TB-NAS-HDD-Full-Review-WD-Red-Mini

FCKGW fucked around with this message at 17:03 on Sep 3, 2013

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Whooping Toff posted:

http://www.box.co.uk/HP_%C2%A3100_Cash_Back-_HP_ProLiant_MicroServ_1341681.html seems to be what he's talking about. Thats an excelent price, I think i'll forgo my size requirement and get one of those.

Anyone purchased anything from box.co.uk before?

Edit: How many bays does it have and can it take 4TB drives? Hp's site has very little actual specs on it from what i can see. I'll try having a look at the US site instead
Edit edit: Looks like its 4 bay? And seems to be only take up to 2TB drives from the specs
Edit edit edit: The n40l wiki seems to indicate that people have used some 4TB drives with it

I'm running 4x4TB in my n40L, you should not problems with that.
It's a 4 bay and you can also install another drive in the DVD bay and connect it to the internal SATA port for 5 total. You can get 6 if you use the eSata connector as well.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Would running Plex Media Server on an SSD have any benefits over a traditional hard drive if all my media is accessed remotely via Apple TV and Roku? The SSD in my server just died and I'm considering if I should just go back to mechanical if there's no real benefits.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Just a heads up, I'm parting with my HP N40L in SA-Mart http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3610886

FCKGW
May 21, 2006


No, in fact I just built a new server with nearly those same specs. That processor is fantastic, 54w and it idles at close to 10w, has enough power to transcode 1080p streams too.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Bob Morales posted:

What the flying gently caress is a 2.5TB HD?

Got one from WD as a refurb in exchange for a busted 2.0TB drive. Is it a 3.0TB drive with half a busted platter?

HDD platters come in 500gb, 640gb, 1tb and 1.25tb sizes. They're then "destroked" to fit whatever size your drive is supposed to be.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Are there any cheap ways that I can use a USB external drive on the network. Or recommendations on a cheap single drive NAS? I'm looking for something to stuff into an attic to do backups of a surveillance system.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Internet Explorer posted:

Check to see if your router supports USB hard drives. Some consumer-level ones do. Otherwise, yes single drive NASes exist. Like this - https://www.synology.com/en-global/products/DS115j

This will be in the attic where a single POE switch is, no router.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

mcsuede posted:

One of the Hitachi HDS722020ALA330 in my RAID 5 kicked it, what's a good NAS drive at the 2TB size right now under $100 that will play nice in an array with 2 more of those? I'm a bit out of the game. Appreciate it.

Just get another Hitachi NAS drive or possibly a WD Red.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Thermopyle posted:

I'll tell you why I decided against it when I was migrating from Windows Home Server even though Drivepool was a natural progression from that. I wasn't about to trust my data to some small closed source company. I had no idea if their technology was good or not, but I didn't really have any confidence in them.

Now, years later, I'd probably give it serious consideration if I wanted to go back to a Windows system (but I don't).

I've been using it for a few years now and it's worked out well for me. Even had a couple disks died and did some expansions stuff and it worked out well.

Development has seemed to slow a bit, there's been a beta for about a year now that hasn't gone full release and the last update was sometime in October. Everything looks pretty solid though and I'd consider the product feature complete by this point.

The developer does use an activation server so if that ever goes down you may have some issues.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Selling my old Node 304 DIY NAS if anyone is interested
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3806980

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Does anyone have an recommendations for a rack-mount chassis? I have an ITX board so I'd like a short-depth case that can fit around ten 3.5" drives. Hot-swap isn't required but would be nice.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

If you pair it with DrivePool you can also pool multiple cloud drives into a single pool or make the cloud drives part of your local pool and specify which folders are backed up local and in the cloud. It's pretty neat.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

necrobobsledder posted:

It's going to be the 10th birthday of my 1 TB WD Black I got for just a tad over $110. That's kind of impressive how poorly drives advanced in the past 10 years price-capacity wise.

The price/gb has dropped 65% in those 10 years but there's still a floor on how much it costs to make a drive. A 1TB drive isn't 1/2 the cost to make as a 2TB drive, it's the same internal parts just one extra platter.

On the other side the technology involved to hit 8/10/12tb drives has gotten more expensive to develop with helium fills and shingled recording media.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

I'm selling a Asus P10S-V/4L / Intel Xeon E3-1220 v5 / 8gb DDR4 combo in SA-mart if anyone is looking to build a system
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3880892

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Moey posted:

What did you use the DS411slim for?

I'm wondering if it would choke with a 4 disk SSD array for iSCSI VM storage.

I didn't use it for anything really, it was some file storage at work. I used it at home for a bit to store some photos off my main server. I haven't pushed it really.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Best Buy unironically owns now

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

BobHoward posted:

LMAO. Before HGST was Hitachi it was IBM's HDD business unit. IBM included the San Jose campus in the sale, so HGST R&D and corporate HQ never moved during the entire time Hitachi operated it as a wholly-owned subsidiary. (I don't know if manufacturing moved around but I'm sure it was already outside the US at the time of sale.) They appear to have finally moved after getting sold to WD... to WD's campus... which is also in San Jose.

WD bought Hitachi and Sandisk and is basically divesting themselves of manufacturing now. They gave a factory to Toshiba as part of the sale and are actively closing down their old consumer drive plant in Kuala Lumpur. Hitachi is making most of the drives with the WD label and Sandisk is doing the same for the SSD side. The CEO of Hitachi became the WD CEO and they moved the headquarters from Irvine to the old IBM campus, current Hitachi campus in San Jose. WD is more or less the umbrella company for what is essentially a joint Hitachi/Sandisk venture.

Drives have always been manufactured in Maylasia for both companies.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Ones on the left are made in WDs plant and the ones in the right are made in Hitachis plant.

They should function identically.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

slidebite posted:

Thanks for the info - any differences in quality between them? The WD plant units show 2-3C hotter than the others (hottest is 41C and been syncing for last 2 hours), but to be fair I think the power supply is on their side of the case too.

Not really anything worth being concerned about. When WD bought Hitachi each company was already making their own respective NAS drives so they just combined both lines under the same family.

Hitachi is going to be making all the WD mechanicals going forward but that doesn’t speak to anything about their previous drives, just that Hitachi had more enterprise experience to begin with.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

taqueso posted:

Maybe they have too many good ones and you can 'unlock' more space like some old video cards or cpus that were orginally lower quality bins. i'm not holding my breath

That's called destroking or shortstroking and manufacturers will sometimes do that (usually it's to just get nice round numbers for odd-number platters though). Some of the old 750gb drives were actually 1tb drives destroked to fill a specific price point niche. Pretty rare in the era of big data drives though, it was mainly a thing in the <1tb per platter days.

This is all done through factory firmware though and since it's strictly a minor storage boost and not a performance thing, no one has really pursued unlocking tools.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

raej posted:

My father bought a Filegear photo, music, video, and document organizer to organize all the scanned photos he has. In his retirement, he's been scanning album upon album of photos and this was supposed to be a good device to keep track of everything and share everything without paying for a monthly subscription to cloud storage.

Well, of course, the company went defunct after being a lovely, horrible mess of a device. Is there something similar, possibly just software and a NAS, solution that he could migrate to?

The WD MyCloud seems like it would be closest to what your dad uses now. Can save wirelessly from phones or directly from other devices via USB. Can view and share pics from the companion website..
https://shop.westerndigital.com/products/cloud-storage/wd-my-cloud-home-duo#WDBMUT0040JWT-NESN

edit: Eh, I don't think it does direct download to NAS and it needs an internet connection to access your files.

FCKGW fucked around with this message at 03:44 on Feb 8, 2020

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

KIM JONG TRILL posted:

Anyone have a good way of getting a price alert for when Bestbuy has deals on their easystores? I need a 10-12 TB drive or two (thinking about adding a second parity drive to my unraid setup) and always seem to miss the sales since I don't follow this thread religiously.

e: appears they're on sale now, but I'm pretty sure I got a better deal on my 12s than what they have now.

Checked my order history and looks like I got my 12TB drives for $190 each last year.

Slickdeals alert for Easystore, they show up there pretty quick

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FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Smashing Link posted:

Does anyone have pihole running on an Unraid system? Docker vs. a VM? Spaceinvaderone's video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VnQxxn00jU&t=144s) is from 2018 and some comments refer to unraid not being able to route DNS through an IP within the Unraid system. Has anyone gotten this working?

I use PiHole on an Unraid docker with it's own IP and it seems to work just fine.

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