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Scarf
Jun 24, 2005

On sight
Lately I've noticed we have a fair amount of people here in ML with extensive knowledge of various effects so I figured it'd be good to have a central source for effects recommendations, demos, questions about chaining, etc. rather than individual threads.

Please post demos if possible when making recommendations.

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Scarf
Jun 24, 2005

On sight
Oh, if anyone is curious about various EHX pedals, they've got a decent number of youtube demos up that do a good job if showing off the sounds and capabilities of a lot of their stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/ehpedals

Plus the newer vids are fun to watch because the guy doing them looks hilarious when he plays.

Scarf
Jun 24, 2005

On sight
Has anyone had experience with Robot Factory pedals before? The guy seems to make some pretty good clones as well as some really out-there type effects. They have a meatball clone that caught my eye:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Robot-Factory-M...1QQcmdZViewItem

Granted it's still over $300... but at half the price of a real Meatball, it's pretty tempting.

Scarf
Jun 24, 2005

On sight

Hen posted:

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the LoveTone pedals yet. Not exactly easy to find but its some of the best craftsmanship you'll see around.

Probably because they cost out the rear end:(

I would absolutely LOVE to have a meatball though.

Scarf
Jun 24, 2005

On sight
Also, Lovetone/Dinosaural goes in and out of business a lot. Probably because, as I stated, their pedals cost out the rear end and they don't sell a ton of units. If the could simply cut the costs I'm sure they'd be much more prominent in the industry.

That poo poo is pure quality but seriously... $600 for a pedal?

Scarf
Jun 24, 2005

On sight

Darth Fungus posted:

Quick question. What's the best order for these effects:

EQ, Wah, OD, Distortion/Fuzz. I only have the OD and Dist. so far but I'm buying the other two soon and I'd like to know the best configuration.

Well, I'm an EHX fanboy... so I'm gonna push those :)

English Muff'n overdrive makes me :gizz:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kpS5vEKYrI

and the Germanium OD is pretty cool if you're into that garage sound:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glCCXE1Vilo

For fuzz you can't go wrong with the Muff series. The Little Big Muff is my favorite:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xSVoH0ctoc

with the Double Muff closely behind for an over-the-top fuzz:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1Mkgqu6LJE

Or if you want to get more indepth they have a Graphic Fuzz that can also function as a stand-alone EQ, might be a good bet for you since you want both:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2sJFPXUfRQ
edit: however the only bad part is that there isn't a foot switch to turn the fuzz on or off for regular EQ use, it's like a switch on the top side :\

Scarf fucked around with this message at 04:31 on Apr 23, 2008

Scarf
Jun 24, 2005

On sight

Darth Fungus posted:

I want that.

By the way I was asking what order (which goes first, 2nd, etc) in the effects chain each effect should be. But thanks for the links gonna go spend more money I don't have now woohoo.

Oops, my bad :shobon:

You'll hear a million different answers to that question... but the only true answer is what sounds best to you. You just have to think about it logically. Like do you want to add distortion to an equalized signal, or do you want to equalize a distorted one. You'll find results will vary.

Scarf
Jun 24, 2005

On sight

Thoogsby posted:

I posted this in the 'New to Guitar' megathread but never really got a response but I think it would be better suited in here.

I really want to get that warm but funky Jam Band sound. I really dig the Allman Brothers and bands like Moe. I've heard that the ABB sound is hard to replicate but it's do drat pleasing to the ear.

Any Suggestions?

You'll have to be a little more specific as to what the actual sound you looking for is. There are so many things that are classified as "funky" and "jammy."

For the most part ABB guitarists, Duane, Betts, Haynes, and Derek Trucks all just play Gibsons with great humbucker pickups going into great amps like old Marshall stacks or Soldano amps.

Scarf
Jun 24, 2005

On sight

Thoogsby posted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLSrudW7J4M

About 3:52 is a good example. I'm pretty bad with terminology right now so sorry if I can't really explain this well.

That's just some really good, smooth overdrive that's dialed in really well. A Tubescreamer should help you get that down pretty well without breaking the bank.

What kind of guitar/amp are you going through?

Scarf
Jun 24, 2005

On sight

Thoogsby posted:

Amp: Fender Frontman 15G :smith:

I'm playing a Squire right now but plan on upgrading to a midrange Strat in the next couple weeks.

Well, in my opinion, and feel free to get many other opinions on this... You'll never get as smooth of sounding overdrive from single-coil pickups as you will from humbuckers.

But I'd say a good tube amp would help out more than changing from single coils to a humbucker. Maybe look into a used Fender Hot Rod Deluxe or Peavey Classic 30 down the road when you get some more cash.

Scarf
Jun 24, 2005

On sight

Darth Fungus posted:

Another quick question. I'm thinking of getting an EH Holy Grail (reverb whore). There's a very specific sound that I want to achieve, that I've only heard in surf rock songs. It's this weird little reverby sound, I don't quite know how to describe it, sort of "twee twee" noise. Couldn't find a youtube of it, but its in the intro to Pipeline by The Lively Ones (not in the other versions). I remember turning the reverb to 10 on a fender amp in a store one day and I made that noise on accident and I love it. So my question is, will the Holy Grail be able to make that noise?

If you're truly a reverb whore... then you may want to look into the Holiest Grail ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QB8kvSlcBIs

Scarf
Jun 24, 2005

On sight

The Leck posted:

Well, I think you may have just sold me on one of these. I need to go check one out for myself, but that sounds incredible in that clip. It makes me wonder how it would do on bass too, but I can't quite picture it. That fuzzy 60's sound is just perfect though.

Chances are you'd lose all low-end on it. I'm always skeptical about these kinds of pedals if they're not tailored especially for bass. Hell even with the demo on the guitar, you can detect loss of the lows.

Scarf
Jun 24, 2005

On sight
My roommate ordered an EHX Wiggler last week, should be arriving soon. I think I'm just as excited about it as he is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00znqYR8CQo

Really awesome, warm, tube-driven vibrato/tremolo.

Scarf
Jun 24, 2005

On sight

Thoogsby posted:

I really want this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnmtI1sOK3Y

Maybe I'll get one once I get some free cash.

I have one and it is amazing.

Scarf
Jun 24, 2005

On sight

BizarroBrian posted:

I've been flip-flopping between the Wiggler and the English Muff'N as my next pedal. Have you had a chance to play with the Wiggler yet? A short review would be awesome!

Well I spent about 5-10 minutes playing with it and the Micro POG in tandem and I'll say that it makes one hell of a Leslie-Organ imitation :)

I'll see if I can't spend some time on it while he's studying this week. But from what little time I spent on it, it was incredibly warm and smooth. He's wanting a Muff'n hardcore as well. He got the Wiggler used on ebay for $100 even.

Scarf
Jun 24, 2005

On sight

mono posted:

My goal for this weekend is to record some more clips with the volume slightly higher than 1.5 :v:. I'm thinking 6 or 7. The pedal actually sounds worlds better with the amp volume up and gain knob down.

I forgot to mention, I put 12ax7's in the pedal to replace the stock tubes. It helps smooth it out.

Crank the mids! Sounded a little scooped for my tastes. Or maybe it was the other effects. Just engage the muff'n leave the other stuff off.

Scarf
Jun 24, 2005

On sight

Thoogsby posted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sha2dt9iQy0

About 1:50 in. Any suggestions?

Sounds like pretty standard overdrive, only pulled back some, not balls to the wall. Maybe a booster?

Good call on The Brew though, those guys are pretty cool. The best thing about jam-bands like them is that they'll usually discuss gear pretty openly and love to show off their setups. I'd send the guitarist a message on Myspace or something like that.

Mike Gordon, for instance, puts up diagrams on his website of his bass setup:



Scarf
Jun 24, 2005

On sight

Thoogsby posted:

I'm amazed that people are actually recognizing The Brew now. I went to school with them. I remember watching them play in my high school gym when they were really young. It's really cool to see the band from your tiny high school get recognition. They're playing moe.down this summer which should be loving awesome. I think they're really a diamond in the rough and I'm not saying that because we're from the same tiny 13 square mile town.

They get played on Sirius channel 17 "Jam-ON" a fair bit.

Scarf
Jun 24, 2005

On sight
Agreed, you know all about this modeling/Line 6 poo poo don't you? What can you tell me about the Toneport? I want something to gently caress around with to easily record riffs and explore some new sounds on my bass.

Scarf
Jun 24, 2005

On sight

Agreed posted:

Toneport BAD!


Well, not really, but it doesn't stack up to the other modelers. The other guitarist from my old band has been utterly put off on his Toneport after getting to check out my modeling setup. However, if you're just looking for a jam tool, you could probably do a lot worse, at lease.

Well here's the thing. I just want something I can hook up to my computer to record riffs with.

Scarf
Jun 24, 2005

On sight

Agreed posted:

If you're not asking much out of it, there's a good chance you won't be disappointed. And, honestly, some people get along just fine with it as their main tone engine, maybe you'd end up being one of them. But it's a fine, low-latency DI interface, if nothing else, and has the amp modeling and effects you need to make a good rough-draft recording.

Plus, it's a hell of a lot cheaper than Guitar Rig 3, at $500, or IK Multimedia StompIO (with its Amplitube series) for $1100.

Considering how I usually record riffs (hanging my headset mic onto my cab)... I think I'll get along just fine with it :)

I just wanted to make sure the drat thing worked and wasn't just a piece of poo poo given its low price.

Scarf
Jun 24, 2005

On sight

Agreed posted:

Oh, no, it definitely works, and works really well. If you want to move up to a serious modeler later, you can still use that interface and it'll be low latency and sound good (unless Line6 has artificially prevented it from being used in that capacity, which would be really hosed up and I have no reason to suspect that they would have done so).

Eh, I've thought about maybe dropping a little more cash and getting a pod but honestly it'd never leave my room since I gig with pretty ballin' gear :hehe:

Scarf
Jun 24, 2005

On sight

dancehall posted:

dude is that wrench vintage

1974 Craftsman Vibrowrench series.

Scarf
Jun 24, 2005

On sight

Stux posted:

The reason its low latency is to do with using gearbox as your modelling. So no, it wont be as low latency with anything else and its not because of some artifical prevention.

Also 3toes make sure you budget for the bass expansion pack for the toneport and make sure you dont mind tweaking your sound to get it right.

PS Agreed, is there any reason you hate line6 stuff so much? I dont really get it :smith:

Well again, the absolute final reason I want one is to easily record riffs... Right now I'm hanging my drat headset mic in front of my 410 cabinet.

Scarf
Jun 24, 2005

On sight
Uhhh, what kind of effect would you like?

Scarf
Jun 24, 2005

On sight
HALLELUIAH!



I think this thing is going to be released July 7th. Really want to hear this. I bet it sounds nasty on guitar as well with the bass boost.

Scarf
Jun 24, 2005

On sight
Dammit I want a Meatball (or meatwad) so bad. $600 for the 'ball, $350 for the 'wad :(

Why do awesome effects have to cost so drat much?!

Scarf
Jun 24, 2005

On sight

the wizards beard posted:

Couldn't you commission a clone for less than that? I've seen quite a few McMeat DIY jobs, surely some one could do one for less than $350.

Haha well that 'Wad is a clone. And I guess I'd be paying for the expertise of someone who has done tons of them at this point.

Scarf
Jun 24, 2005

On sight

Agreed posted:

As someone who is pretty into boutique stuff, don't pay that much for a clone. Don't pay that much for an original unless you're a collector and it's just gonna sit around, like some kind of rockin' investment or something.

"Expertise" is a lot cheaper than $350 in the DIY pedal world.

Well actually it's $320... but yeah.

I'd love to get into building poo poo like that myself, I just have no real experience with circuitry.

edit: this is the guy http://www.martoneaudio.com/

Scarf fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Oct 14, 2008

Scarf
Jun 24, 2005

On sight
Could try a POG or Micro POG as well and crank the sub-octave.

And how the hell do you even have enough tension on the strings to get any kind of sound other than a wet fart with Drop A and G?

Scarf
Jun 24, 2005

On sight
You should try a double-muff :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1Mkgqu6LJE

or even the little big muff

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xSVoH0ctoc

Scarf fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Oct 15, 2008

Scarf
Jun 24, 2005

On sight

Isnak posted:

I was wondering about the EH Bass Metaphors. Mostly I want to get it to DI straight into a PA/practice with headphones without having to drop at least twice as much on an amp modeler/multi-effects processor, it would just be a convenience but if there are any better options out there for poor bassists let me know.

Well really the only "multi-effects" from it are a compressor and distortion. I love EHX products, but in terms of a DI+preamp+drive I'd much rather go for a Tech21 Sansamp Bass-Driver if compression isn't that important to you.

http://bass-guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Tech-21-SansAmp-Bass-Driver-DI?sku=480206

Scarf
Jun 24, 2005

On sight
Ok resurrecting this thread.

Scarf posted:

I think some of my tax refund is going towards this:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr8kdWpB3U4

Given that I just bought this and would essentially like for it to serve more as a preamp for my current rig... Can I put this in the effects loop and leave my chain as is? Or the other way around?

Help.

Scarf
Jun 24, 2005

On sight
Just over 200... but I love this thing: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/GigFX-The-Chopper?sku=150352

http://www.gig-fx.com/products/Chopper/chopper.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWg2s2wfxqY

Scarf
Jun 24, 2005

On sight
Only thing is, it has no real engage/disengage switch. You roll-on to activate it, so I'm sure it colors the tone like crazy.

More along the lines of a conventional Vib/Trem pedal... check out the EHX Wiggler. My old roommate has one and it's awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQRo9YyL8H8&feature=channel_page

Scarf
Jun 24, 2005

On sight
I've been messing around with Delay in Guitar Rig a lot lately on my bass and having a lot of fun. Anyone able to recommend a good unit? I really like the "PsycheDelay" in GR, is that based off of an actual unit?

Scarf
Jun 24, 2005

On sight

Agreed posted:

The PsychDelay includes functionality that's traditionally been a part of Eventide's delay algorithms. Look into getting an Eventide Timefactor - though it'll cost you a substantial amount, it's one of the best units (if not the best) on the market for stomp-box delay.

Oh sweet thanks. I think for the time being (due to budget reasons), if I get one in the near future, it'll be the Memory Boy Deluxe once it comes out. Looks like they're shooting for about $200.

Scarf
Jun 24, 2005

On sight

bisticles posted:

I think "chain" just refers to a series of effects that are placed one after the other, where effects loop refers specifically to a series of effects placed in the effects loop of an amplifier (after the preamp, before the poweramp).

Yeah, but I think more often than not, the "chain" is associated to something in your signal path from your instrument to your amp.

Scarf
Jun 24, 2005

On sight
Just had to post this... bad loving rear end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPZrAPfOwn0

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Scarf
Jun 24, 2005

On sight

Hubis posted:

:colbert:

hah whoops v:shobon:v

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