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I've been thinking about grad school, but am more interested in Finance than general management. I'm planning on getting a CPA, but fall a few hours short of qualifying to sit for it, so I was thinking of augmenting my education with another degree. In lieu of an MBA, I've been considering a Masters in Finance and also attaining my level 1 CFA. Has anyone had good experiences with Masters in Finance programs? Or know of any good risk-management programs? I'd really appreciate it.
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@KJ&AR@ posted:How would any NYC goons rate CUNY Baruch's Zicklin School of Business MBA program? CU has an EMBA program. It's our part-time program. It's aimed at older/experienced workers and is more expensive than the regular MBA though.
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# ? Mar 23, 2009 23:26 |
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SiDeath posted:I've been thinking about grad school, but am more interested in Finance than general management. I'm planning on getting a CPA, but fall a few hours short of qualifying to sit for it, so I was thinking of augmenting my education with another degree. In lieu of an MBA, I've been considering a Masters in Finance and also attaining my level 1 CFA. Has anyone had good experiences with Masters in Finance programs? Or know of any good risk-management programs? I'd really appreciate it. If you're interested in general finance, why are you looking at a CPA? And if you want to get a CPA, why aren't you looking at accounting programs?
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# ? Mar 23, 2009 23:45 |
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@KJ&AR@ posted:How would any NYC goons rate CUNY Baruch's Zicklin School of Business MBA program? How about Pace? Their PT program stood out when I was looking around...
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# ? Mar 24, 2009 02:11 |
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ultrafilter posted:If you're interested in general finance, why are you looking at a CPA? And if you want to get a CPA, why aren't you looking at accounting programs? I have most of the accounting knowledge I need already, having covered everything my undergrad education had through Tax Accounting but I don't want primarily to be a Tax Professional. I know there are many facets to accounting, but I want to attain a CPA as a way to make myself more competitive in the job market. Additionally, if I can't find anything, I have been offered my mom's accounting practice to take over in time, so having a CPA would be crucial. If I went that route, I'd additionally like to be able to offer a wider range of consulting options, given that she has a large population of high net worth clients. They do estate planning and such already, so by achieving an additional charter/certification I could offer more services. I suppose it all depends really. I'm too inexperienced to make a definitive decision and probably too young to know any better. I'm already out of school and am in a long-term internship, but I'd like to be able to put together a plan with contingencies. Oh and I meant that I want to get a degree in addition to qualifying to sit for the CPA, which I'm currently less than a semester's worth of classes short of. I figure I might as well go crazy.
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# ? Mar 24, 2009 14:25 |
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Is it worth pursuing an MBA when I already have like 90k in undergraduate student loans (about 20k is student loans in my name)? I have a full-time job, but they only reimburse up to $7500 per year.
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# ? Mar 25, 2009 05:02 |
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Do a simple cost-benefit analysis? It depends on what you want to do post-MBA, if there's any intrinsic value that you'd attach to those three letters after your name, etc.
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# ? Mar 25, 2009 07:32 |
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exiledone posted:Is it worth pursuing an MBA when I already have like 90k in undergraduate student loans (about 20k is student loans in my name)? I have a full-time job, but they only reimburse up to $7500 per year. If you want my opinion, I would not do that right now.
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exiledone posted:Is it worth pursuing an MBA when I already have like 90k in undergraduate student loans (about 20k is student loans in my name)? I have a full-time job, but they only reimburse up to $7500 per year. I'd see if you could do any part-time MBA program, that way you can build credits in the MBA program while your company foots the bill. I had a few friends who were doing that and when we were all laid off, the company still paid the bill for his tuition and he was released from any obligation of having to work with the company after he obtained his MBA. Of course I am not insinuating that you are going to get let go, I'm just saying that if the company is offering you a benefit, you might as well use it. If the worst does happen and you do let go, at least you have a couple credit hours out of the way that you won't have to take out loans for.
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# ? Mar 25, 2009 21:44 |
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How long do people generally study for the GMAT? I've heard LSAT studying is on average probably around ~3 months... I figure GMAT was ~1 correct?
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lolercoasterrr posted:How long do people generally study for the GMAT? I've heard LSAT studying is on average probably around ~3 months... I figure GMAT was ~1 correct? I studied for about 2-3 weeks, but I definatly could have probably improved my score if I'd studied longer. If you look around some people's blogs and message board postings though you'll see some people talking about studying every night for 6 months or more. Having taken the GMAT I'd say that you definatly need to spend at least a couple of weeks to get used to the format and all that, but your return on the time you spend studying will fall sharply after a couple of weeks. On a side note, I just completed my application to the University of Iowa's part time program (stupid Chicago and Northwestern being too far away to drive for weekend MBA) for this fall, so I hope I hear back soon. It should basically be an automatic given my GMAT score and the fact that they know my company will be footing the bill. But I can't help being slightly apprehensive.
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# ? Mar 29, 2009 16:06 |
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lolercoasterrr posted:How long do people generally study for the GMAT? I've heard LSAT studying is on average probably around ~3 months... I figure GMAT was ~1 correct? It depends the most on how long you've been out of school before you take it. If you still remember the math rules and just need to get used to the test format, a month is probably more time than you'd need. If you've forgotten the math rules, it may take longer to brush up on it. Be your own judge on that.
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# ? Mar 29, 2009 16:24 |
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Started studying early June while taking the exam late July.
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# ? Mar 29, 2009 19:48 |
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Another scathing article of MBAs and business schools, this time by The New Republic: http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=c4e9e361-fcdd-4098-afe5-400051102592
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ion posted:Another scathing article of MBAs and business schools, this time by The New Republic: http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=c4e9e361-fcdd-4098-afe5-400051102592 That's interesting. No doubt that plenty of folks attended these top schools to make bank after a short 2 years of education. But without the quants coming out of PhD programs such as Chicago and MIT, I really doubt that any MBA curriculum is sophisticated enough to develop the "financial tools" described the article. I definitely think that you can place blame on the MBA culture of the past 10 years, but I would have liked to see the article flesh things out a little bit, as damning as it wants to be.
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# ? Apr 1, 2009 19:07 |
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I'd been applying for internships for months now and I haven't gotten any responses What are you guys doing for the summer? What schools do you go to and where did you get an internship?
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Hardcore Albacore posted:I'd been applying for internships for months now and I haven't gotten any responses I'm a recent graduate still looking for a full-time position. It would be easier to give you some feedback if you let us know were you were and what kind of internship you were looking for. When did you start looking for a position? What function are you looking to fill? Big firms or small firms? ect.
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I'm in NY, Long Island specifically, doing a finance concentration MBA. I started looking about 4 months ago (not the best time, admittedly). I'd like to do consulting work primarily, but I am open to other finance positions. I prefer small firms to be honest; firms looking to grow that I could grow and learn with. Also my MBA is with Stony Brook so I don't exactly have the power of school name/reputation behind me if I graduate and don't immediately begin working. I have one more semester remaining.
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Hardcore Albacore posted:I'd been applying for internships for months now and I haven't gotten any responses I'm a 1st year full-time at IU-Kelley and I'm working in corporate finance this summer. propecia fucked around with this message at 03:56 on Apr 2, 2009 |
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propecia posted:I'm a 1st year full-time at IU-Kelley and I'm working in corporate finance this summer. what is your position, is it bulge bracket
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I would like to know what the value of Penn State Erie's MBA program is. It's AACSB accredited, but not exactly soaring on the rankings. Trying to swing into investment management (not the super competitive wall-street jobs, the smaller shops). Am I wasting my time?
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# ? Apr 8, 2009 01:34 |
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LactoseO.D.'d posted:I would like to know what the value of Penn State Erie's MBA program is. It's AACSB accredited, but not exactly soaring on the rankings. Trying to swing into investment management (not the super competitive wall-street jobs, the smaller shops). Am I wasting my time? Is instate tuition a consideration?
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# ? Apr 8, 2009 02:10 |
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propecia posted:Is instate tuition a consideration? Yes. I also qualify for semester's worth of exemption credits.
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# ? Apr 8, 2009 02:33 |
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This doesn't pertain necessarily to MBA's but it is related close enough. I would like to pursue studies in Quantitative Trading, but I am a freshman majoring in Finance right now. Would picking up a minor in Math give me a good enough background to apply for school in Masters in Quantitative Finance? I know this field traditionally only accepts Math, Physics, and Statistics majors.
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unterdude posted:This doesn't pertain necessarily to MBA's but it is related close enough. I would like to pursue studies in Quantitative Trading, but I am a freshman majoring in Finance right now. Would picking up a minor in Math give me a good enough background to apply for school in Masters in Quantitative Finance? I know this field traditionally only accepts Math, Physics, and Statistics majors. Those programs are generally designed on the assumption that the students coming in have a strong background in some quantitative discipline, but not much training in finance. You'd probably be better off moving over to math/physics/engineering, which gives you a better shot at other jobs in case you change your mind sometime in the next three years.
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unterdude posted:This doesn't pertain necessarily to MBA's but it is related close enough. I would like to pursue studies in Quantitative Trading, but I am a freshman majoring in Finance right now. Would picking up a minor in Math give me a good enough background to apply for school in Masters in Quantitative Finance? I know this field traditionally only accepts Math, Physics, and Statistics majors. Recommending you don't waste your time unless you'll be coming out of one of the top 10 programs.
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unterdude posted:This doesn't pertain necessarily to MBA's but it is related close enough. I would like to pursue studies in Quantitative Trading, but I am a freshman majoring in Finance right now. Would picking up a minor in Math give me a good enough background to apply for school in Masters in Quantitative Finance? I know this field traditionally only accepts Math, Physics, and Statistics majors. Take a look at some MsF Quant programs and look at their requirements. Some websites will detail specific courses that are basically pre-reqs for these programs. For example, from Wisconson's MsF Quant program: University of Wisconsin posted:To be considered, candidates must have completed and performed well in the prerequisite courses: 3 semesters of calculus, and 1 semester each of linear algebra, differential equations and probability theory. A candidate who completes additional advanced courses in mathematics and statistics beyond the requirements increases his or her chance of acceptance into the program.
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Woohoo, just got accepted into the part time program at the University of Iowa (not a top 10 school, I know, but it's solidely ranked and work is paying the whole bill other than textbooks). Any evening/weekend MBA students have any words of wisdom for the next few years of my life?
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Thoguh posted:Woohoo, just got accepted into the part time program at the University of Iowa (not a top 10 school, I know, but it's solidely ranked and work is paying the whole bill other than textbooks). Any evening/weekend MBA students have any words of wisdom for the next few years of my life? Congrats. Don't pay any attention to the rankings - Tippie is a solid school and you will probably learn a lot for what you want to do.
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Thoguh posted:Woohoo, just got accepted into the part time program at the University of Iowa (not a top 10 school, I know, but it's solidely ranked and work is paying the whole bill other than textbooks). Any evening/weekend MBA students have any words of wisdom for the next few years of my life? Not a student but the networking/connections made in an MBA program are at least as important as the coursework. Don't be a wallflower, attend study groups even if you don't need them and get to know the advisers well.
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Thoguh posted:Woohoo, just got accepted into the part time program at the University of Iowa (not a top 10 school, I know, but it's solidely ranked and work is paying the whole bill other than textbooks). Any evening/weekend MBA students have any words of wisdom for the next few years of my life? Good job. Talk to other students to find out which professors to take, find out if you can get advanced standing, and keep in touch with your MBA student office to make sure you're generally taking the right classes in the right order. I'm in the part-time program at Rutgers and my company is basically doing the same, excluding courses that are "not directly related to my job," such as the calc prerequisite.
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Modern Life Is War posted:Good job. Talk to other students to find out which professors to take, find out if you can get advanced standing, and keep in touch with your MBA student office to make sure you're generally taking the right classes in the right order. I'm in the part-time program at Rutgers and my company is basically doing the same, excluding courses that are "not directly related to my job," such as the calc prerequisite. For me the difference is in whether I have to pay taxes or not. Job related means I don't have to pay taxes on the money I get from my company regardless of the amount. If classes are non-job related and I get taxed after like $5,000, which is about 2-3 classes. The company pays either way as long as it's part of an approved degree program. If I was taking individual classes that weren't part of a degree then they would only pay for job related courses. If you don't mind my asking, what's advanced standing and why do I want it?
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Hey Modern Life Is War, I'm applying to Rutgers part time and I'd like to ask you a few questions if you wouldn't mind? No PMs so email mrejda at hotmail if you're up for it - I'll buy you some beers in NB
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Thoguh posted:If you don't mind my asking, what's advanced standing and why do I want it? I received credit for taking certain similar classes as an undergrad at another AACSB accredited school. Basically, two MBA credits for each 3 credit undergrad course that fell under that category. Bud posted:Hey Modern Life Is War, I'm applying to Rutgers part time and I'd like to ask you a few questions if you wouldn't mind? No PMs so email mrejda at hotmail if you're up for it - I'll buy you some beers in NB Sure.
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Does anyone have any opinion on Marquette University? I know it isn't top tier, but apparently their part-time MBA program was ranked #16 by US News and World Reports for 2009. While I would be attending part time, I'm wondering what it means when I don't see any rankings for their program in general.
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# ? Apr 17, 2009 04:14 |
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The USNews 2010 full-time rankings were "leaked" today. Although nobody really gives a poo poo about these outside of the would-be private equity aspirants at the BusinessWeek forums and the prestige obsessed weirdos at College Confidential. Harvard, Stanford, Northwestern, Penn, MIT, Chicago, Dartmouth, Columbia, Yale, NYU, Duke, Michigan, UCLA, CMU, UVA, Cornell, Texas, Georgetown, UNC, USC, Emory, Georgia Tech, Indiana, Wash U, Ohio State, Washington, Wisconsin.
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# ? Apr 17, 2009 04:28 |
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You missed Berkeley / Haas at #7quote:Current rank [Previous rank] School Name (Rating) [Previous Rating] As an aside, I visited some MBA schools in Australia earlier this month. Two of them, Melbourne and AGSM (in Sydney) seem to do well in the international rankings, and seem a little less competitive to get into compared to top American b-schools.
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# ? Apr 27, 2009 20:01 |
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I am in Australia and AGSM is the only place I would consider doing an MBA. I would still probably rather go to the US to do one, but if I were to base myself in Sydney long term I'm probably better off staying local. I live in Sydney so I'm not sure about the Melbourne one. Sydney is really the business capital of Australia now, with the exception of a few local banks and some media companies. Melbourne is a nicer place to live on the whole though, depending on what you're into.
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# ? Apr 28, 2009 03:21 |
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How old are you and how many years of work experience do you people have before starting an MBA?
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I'm 28 just finishing my undergrad degree and starting my MBA next year. I've got 13 years of retail experience (some managerial/supervisory). It's not a big name B-school but does well in local rankings and the price is decent.
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