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Lord Zuthulu posted:Is it just me or are aftermarket pipes overpriced? When I get the bike I want in a year or two I'd like to get this nice set of Zards. The thing is they're $1200! For slip-ons! Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it just a tube, some holes drilled in it, wrapped with insulation and put in a can? I know they've got to make a profit but this seems like a big markup. Tell me there's more to it than that. Lots of tuning, yes, but the markup on pipes is absurd. I believe the top of the line LV pipe for an 08 R6 retails for around 1800$, dealer cost is supposedly 800$. I'd put it a bit lower than that, probably around 600$...you can see why pipes are such hot items for the dealer to throw in at a "50% discount you pay labor" and poo poo like that. The bright side is: Used pipe depreciate like a mofo.
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Even the dealer price at $600 seems ridiculous. I could make that poo poo for $50, if I knew anything about it  Seriously though, even ricey car mufflers aren't that much. Are these each hand made and individually tuned? Also, do people ever make their own silencers from scratch, just for the hell of it, and have them not sound like poo poo or a cherry bomb?
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Z3n posted:Lots of tuning, yes, but the markup on pipes is absurd. I believe the top of the line LV pipe for an 08 R6 retails for around 1800$, dealer cost is supposedly 800$. I'd put it a bit lower than that, probably around 600$...you can see why pipes are such hot items for the dealer to throw in at a "50% discount you pay labor" and poo poo like that. That seems like an awful lot. I mean, I got just a plain jane LeoVince for my ZR-7S, and it set me back less than $500CAD, including the super-happy-fun-border-rape-charge (  FedEx ). Have you tried directly contacting the manufacturer for a quote, rather than going through a shop?
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Z3n posted:Trintintin would it be possible to go back to stock signals? Or maybe contact someone who supplies clear turn signals, like http://www.clearalternatives.com/ I actually did get a pair of stock signals and that was just a whole other mess. They wouldn't mount up properly at all because of how the bike was "Dropped in the driveway". I definitely got taken for a ride when I bought this bike, because it was clearly almost completely rebuilt and wired and everything is bent to poo poo in the nose of it. So those didn't work out. I figure if I get desperate I can just get a clear bulb and a yellow sharpie, since I've found clears in the size I need, but thanks a bunch for that site I'll check it out. I think pipes are so marked up because its the main simple boytuner upgrade for a bike so prices can be gouged and people will still buy it. Also maybe you should look into lesser known pipe companies and see if you like what they put out. That way you aren't paying for the name, and its unique. Check on ebay or special forums for the specific bike you can normally get them used and cheaper that way.
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I have an offroad question? I just bought a '98 cr250 and need a few things, the bike stores in Canada seem to enjoy raping you. Has anyone used thumpertalks store, are they any good?
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What does everyone here do for storing a bike for the winter? Its starting to get too cold to ride here without assuming the "lay across the bike and hug the engine for warmth" position so I think its time to put it away until spring. I have a nice converted chicken coop to store it in.
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Z3n posted:Not incredibly stupid, more like just stupid. The biggest issue with the big twin is that it will be very sensative to throttle inputs, even at lower RPM, simply because of how much grunt the engine has from just off idle. And with 60-ish foot pounds of torque, even at lower RPM, you're going to be able to power wheelie it off the throttle in first gear alone, plus the engine braking will be monsterous. I'm not necessarily advocating the XB9 as a good learner bike, but I will say that my XB12 is easier to ride (throttle-wise) than my SV was, by far. My SV did need some carb work, so it was a little herky-jerky under 3k, but between the exceptionally touchy throttle and huge amounts of engine braking, it was a huge challenge to learn on it, and frankly, I'm really surprised it never got the better of me. The SV was much easier to steer however, as the Buells weight is focused lower, and it's heavier than the SV, which means you have to put a little more effort into steering it. I will say that new Pilot Power 2CT's did make the handing a lot better though.
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Pompous Rhombus posted:I'm not sure I'd try riding with a messenger-type bag though, it might shift around, which could potentially distract you. My backpack is so much nicer to wear. A sternum strap is an amazing thing to have. shaitan posted:With the cold weather hitting us, how do you guys handle cold weather riding, more specifiically your legs? I don't have any riding pants so I'm stuck riding with normal jeans right now, would some thermals work well? Along with my jacket, a sweatshirt and some underarmour ski mask I have my upper body all set. Thermals won't help. They won't stop the wind from cutting through. If you can't afford textile pants, maybe try finding some windproof pants (running pants or something?) and layering them over jeans and thermals. 8ender posted:What does everyone here do for storing a bike for the winter? Its starting to get too cold to ride here without assuming the "lay across the bike and hug the engine for warmth" position so I think its time to put it away until spring. I have a nice converted chicken coop to store it in. I fill up my tank, pour in some Sta-Bil, yank the battery, drop the tire pressure a few PSI, put some bags over my tail pipes, and put my cover on. Haven't had a problem yet.
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Uthor posted:Thermals won't help. They won't stop the wind from cutting through. If you can't afford textile pants, maybe try finding some windproof pants (running pants or something?) and layering them over jeans and thermals. Running pants, duh! I think this may be the route I'll go.
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8ender posted:What does everyone here do for storing a bike for the winter? Is your yamaha premix or does it have oil injection? if it has premix, drain the tank. if it has oil injection, use sta-bil. Turn off the fuel, start the bike and run the carbs empty. Drain the remainder from the drain screws. Remove the battery, charge it once a month. That's it. :-)
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8ender posted:What does everyone here do for storing a bike for the winter? Its starting to get too cold to ride here without assuming the "lay across the bike and hug the engine for warmth" position so I think its time to put it away until spring. I have a nice converted chicken coop to store it in. I generally (even on my 2-strokes) put stabil in the tank, run it till the stabil is in the carbs, then put it up on stands. I leave the gas and stabil in the carbs. Oxygen + old carbs = mess to clean up in the spring. Same for the tank. I always fill them to the brim just before I park them.
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Phat_Albert posted:I generally (even on my 2-strokes) put stabil in the tank, run it till the stabil is in the carbs, then put it up on stands. I leave the gas and stabil in the carbs. Unless you drain the tank and use it in your lawnmower..
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Oct 6, 2008 15:00
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Nerobro posted:Unless you drain the tank and use it in your lawnmower.. I'm not too worried about this as my bike is 42 years old and about as advanced as a lawn mower. Its also oil injection not pre-mix and the timing is pretty relaxed right now. I'll remember to give it shot of premium in the spring. Thanks for the tips everyone. Its breaking my heart to put the Yammy away until spring. 
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I'm doing it too Poor little 2 stroke. I hardly knew ye. Don't worry baby, I'll get you a title next spring and we'll have wonderful days in the
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About engine breaking: does fuel injection lessen the force of engine breaking? Just curious.
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Polynomial posted:About engine breaking: does fuel injection lessen the force of engine breaking? Just curious. no
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Polynomial posted:About engine breaking: does fuel injection lessen the force of engine breaking? Just curious. No, but some newer bikes will do funny stuff like let air in so you're reducing engine breaking and making an electronic slipper clutch of sorts.
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Fantastipotamus posted:Firstly, the engine braking on my XB12SS is actually significantly less than my SV650 ever was. When I got my Buell, I was under the same impression you were (and I haven't ridden the XB9's, only my 12), but it turned out that one of the things Buell did was to take a lot of the engine braking out. It's still there, but the revs drop a lot slower than you'd think. The throttle input is actually very smooth as well, when I first got it, I was riding around with my jaw dropped as I was very surprised how easy it was to ride. Interesting. I'll have to see if I can steal a test ride from someone on one then. I was going off of the Harleys that I've ridden, which will come off the gas pretty hard. I also hear that buells are very, very sensative to suspension changes. dozer_d11 posted:I have an offroad question? I just bought a '98 cr250 and need a few things, the bike stores in Canada seem to enjoy raping you. Has anyone used thumpertalks store, are they any good? I've never used it personally but have heard it's good. Can't say anything beyond that though.
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Lord Zuthulu posted:Also, do people ever make their own silencers from scratch, just for the hell of it, and have them not sound like poo poo or a cherry bomb? Sometimes you can easily gut the stock can(s). I have a stock slipon from an 04 R6 that I opened up, removed the catalitic converter ,most of the baffles, and rivited it back together. I was afraid it was going to sound like rear end (I was only out $20) but it actually sounds pretty good. Much better than it did with the 16 year old stock exhaust. And it's still quieter than a lot of aftermarket exhausts.
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Polynomial posted:engine breaking: engine breaking? Bob Morales posted:engine breaking HOLY gently caress
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dozer_d11 posted:I have an offroad question? I just bought a '98 cr250 and need a few things, the bike stores in Canada seem to enjoy raping you. Has anyone used thumpertalks store, are they any good? Are you looking for OEM parts or aftermarket mods? For OEM parts, I've always used https://www.powersportspro.com. They have Honda 'fiche going back more than a few generations, and are pretty good with pricing. Also, you can get the part number from their site and call around to local shops to find out if they are really raping you. WHEEZY KISS A DUDE fucked around with this message at 19:43 on Oct 6, 2008 |
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Phat_Albert posted:HOLY gently caress Sorry. I must have been reading his post while typing mine. disc breaks
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Bob Morales posted:disc breaks I broke a disc by leaving it in the sun once It had really good porn on it, too!
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shaitan posted:Running pants, duh! I think this may be the route I'll go. Before I got my textiles, the only thing that would help riding in the cold was a windbreaker over my drafty leather. Layers underneath did nothing at speed.
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Does anyone have any suggestions for reasonably priced luggage for my Yamaha V-star? I'm not a fan of paying $500+ for OEM leather bags, and I'm a bit suspicious of Jafrum bags because of the universally poor customer service reviews. Is there any middle ground?
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I'm looking at laser jammers and I'm thinking about getting the laser interceptor. Does anyone have any experience with this and motorcycles? I found a pretty good writeup on hayabusa.org about installation, but I was wondering if there was a visual component to the warning as opposed to just an audible one.
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I posted a thread a couple of months ago about an old Bridgestone bike in my grandparent's barn. The bike is covered in surface rust from being in an uninsulated barn for 20 some years. What's the best way of combating this? Also, how do I go about restoring the wire spoked wheels?
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Armyman25 posted:I posted a thread a couple of months ago about an old Bridgestone bike in my grandparent's barn. The bike is covered in surface rust from being in an uninsulated barn for 20 some years. What's the best way of combating this? Well, it dpeneds on what is rusty. if the paint is bubbling and peeling, the best thing to do is to strip and refinish. If it's on chrome, some steel wool goes a long way. As for your wheels, if they're really ratty, you may be SOL. If they're just pitted and nasty, you can go at them with steel wool and polishing compound. The spokes will be a royal pain, and the best method for dealing with that is spending the $50 and buying new spokes... And then the $50-60 and having a shop respoke the well for you.
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I recently changes the fork seals on my 1981 Honda CB650 and when I was looking in my Haynes manual I thought it said to torque the axle holder nuts to 40 - 47 ft lbs. It is supposed to be 13 - 18 ft lbs. according to the online shop manual. I just stripped out the nut on the lower part of the stud, the fork slider appears to be fine. I am wondering if their would be a problem using a grade 8 steel bolt and grinding off the head as a replacement stud until my OEM parts arrive. I asked this over at sohc4.net, just wondering if anyone could let me know if this is a completely stupid idea. Edit: I have tried local automotive and hardware supply stores and couldn't find 8x1.25x49 studs
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shaitan posted:With the cold weather hitting us, how do you guys handle cold weather riding, more specifiically your legs? I don't have any riding pants so I'm stuck riding with normal jeans right now, would some thermals work well? Along with my jacket, a sweatshirt and some underarmour ski mask I have my upper body all set. If you can't afford textile windproof overpants, you can pick up a cheap pair of ski/snowboard pants. I used those before I got my current set of textiles, and they kept the wind out quite nicely, being insulated and all. Plus they have elastic at the ankles, which keeps the wind from seeping up.
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Ostiosis posted:I recently changes the fork seals on my 1981 Honda CB650 and when I was looking in my Haynes manual I thought it said to torque the axle holder nuts to 40 - 47 ft lbs. It is supposed to be 13 - 18 ft lbs. according to the online shop manual. I just stripped out the nut on the lower part of the stud, the fork slider appears to be fine. The studs are really soft aren't they? I've had all of the threads come off of them from a slightly cruddy nut before. It would probably be fine to use the cutoff bolt as a stud. Screw the clean part of the stud into the fork tube and only tighten until it bottoms out. The aluminum is much softer than a grade 8 stud so be careful.
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Thanks a lot for the response, now I won't be to paranoid about my front wheel going down the street without me.
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Z3n posted:Interesting. I'll have to see if I can steal a test ride from someone on one then. I was going off of the Harleys that I've ridden, which will come off the gas pretty hard. The local dude who changed my tires ($55 total, wheels on the bike with old tire disposal!) was raving about it after his little test ride, never having ridden one before.
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ok i just got done installing the R&G frame sliders on my '07 ninja 650r. right side was a breeze, but goddamn the left side was a pain. had to borrow a dremel to grind off part of the engine mount bracket needed to mount the slider bracket. dunno whether to be pissed at R&G or at kawasaki for making subtle changes in the brackets so you'd be forced into using the OEM ones. anyways its all said and done, and now i got piece if mind in case of a drop. tomorrow is wash and wax day. did any other of you other 650r guys have a similar experience mounting the sliders?
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I just passed my MSF and would like to get a small bike to go around town in. Here's what I found 1985 Rebel 250. Ideally I'd like to ride this for the fall and trade up next season to a more powerful bike. If I can sell it within a few hundred of what I paid for it I'd be happy. Is the price fairly reasonable? Could my girlfriend ride with me on such a small bike?
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8ender posted:What does everyone here do for storing a bike for the winter? Its starting to get too cold to ride here without assuming the "lay across the bike and hug the engine for warmth" position so I think its time to put it away until spring. I have a nice converted chicken coop to store it in. Put them away?  Fug dat, stud it up! Seiously though, I sold that bike and dunno if I want to use the GS for such duties this winter. It's a heavy bitch to pick back up-although I have never dropped the bike in the winter.  Christmas morning '06, met up with a riding buddy for a trip to the local lake.  I wondered where that drat cord went. If I do stud up the GS I'll do a thread. Ridng in the snow is all kinds of fun and it confounds the poo poo out of the cagers.
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Oceanlife posted:I just passed my MSF and would like to get a small bike to go around town in. I had a '86 Rebel as my first bike. Paid $100 for it, sold it 6 months later for $700, but it was not in the condition that one is. Dead simple to work on and fairly reliable, but you will get bored drat fast. It's slow, but it will turn like crazy. There are some downfalls. The '85-'87 Rebels had a really lovely headlight that I don't think you can get a new bulb for unless you fork out a lot. 35 watts of fury. Riding with a passenger on that thing would be a deathwish.
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Bob Sapp Please posted:Riding with a passenger on that thing would be a deathwish.
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Uthor posted:Before I got my textiles, the only thing that would help riding in the cold was a windbreaker over my drafty leather. Layers underneath did nothing at speed. Yeah, I took a 30 min ride when I got home from work today and I noticed after about 10 mins i could feel the wind and cold just eat through everything. I think tomorrow morning I'll try my windbreaker and just deal with the cold legs. This weekend I'll decide if it's worth it to buy some pants or just tough it out in small trips put it away for the winter sooner :\.
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shaitan posted:Yeah, I took a 30 min ride when I got home from work today and I noticed after about 10 mins i could feel the wind and cold just eat through everything. I think tomorrow morning I'll try my windbreaker and just deal with the cold legs. This weekend I'll decide if it's worth it to buy some pants or just tough it out in small trips put it away for the winter sooner :\. My trick was to buy $10 rain pants from wallmart. Mine are 3 years old now. I've used them a dozen times. No wear yet, and they're awesome for stopping 30 deg air.
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