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tazman posted:That may be so, but think about how bad Miyata was wailing on him at the start, and that he should have won like 2 rounds ago. Randy boy shouldn't be fighting this good. But Randy is similar to Ippo in that he can in-fight and take damage. Miyata is also not known for the power behind his punches. So it's not that unbelievable for Randy Boy to continue after taking all those little punches from Miyata. On the other hand, we've been told explicitly that Miyata has a glass jaw, so he shouldn't have enough power to put Randy Boy down at this point.
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I don't understand Itagaki as a character. He seems to be like Miyata, only better in every way and with "superpowers." Since it doesn't seem like he'll be leaving Ippo's gym anytime soon it just seems like a waste of time to focus on him so much. I also hope this current match with Mashiba against this other guy doesn't last too long, since I don't care much about Mashiba either since he probably won't ever fight Ippo again and he's a one trick pony.
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May 25, 2009 20:51
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Positronbob posted:I'm not too bothered- it's been far too long since Ippo had a fight, and I'm curious to see whether they're going to bother making him "rusty" at all or just have the usual "IPPO HAS NEVER SEEN THIS TRICK BEFORE!?!? HOW WILL HE WIN!?" I really hope they stop that, especially since Ippo is basically a superveteran now given the huge number of matches he's been in.
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Jun 16, 2009 15:08
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Haha, the public service environment in the latest chapter of Ippo actually made me laugh outloud. Also, looks like Ippo's next opponent is going to be Mogli.
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Nate RFB posted:On the plus side, catching up with Ippo made me pine for the better days, so I reread Ippo vs. Sendo. God what a fight. Sendo is really a great character. He doesn't have any bullshit gimmicks and is just an all around cool dude. If Ippo doesn't semi-easily win this match, I'm going to be upset. I know they've built him up with this Vorg stuff, but Ippo really shouldn't be struggling this much with his crazy ~30(or whatever) to 1 win/loss ratio. If this guy does a walljump it's just gonna be like rubbing salt in the wound.
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Aug 4, 2009 20:57
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Serious Frolicking posted:Ippo always struggles and gets beaten to a pulp. That's just his thing, even though the series acknowledges that this would normally cut short his career and that he should really stop doing it. There were a couple times he didn't. Fighting Date's disciple guy and the Thai (I think) guy he fought after losing to Date come to mind.
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Aug 4, 2009 23:49
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tazman posted:Wow this fight is starting out really well. High hopes here! I suppose, though it also seems pretty predictable to me. IIRC the past few fights have also consisted of Ippo doing well and showing he's "champion material," followed by his opponent releasing his gimmick in full force. What I'm hoping is that Ippo will also destroy his gimmick, though I'm not counting on it given Vorg's reaction.
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The only thing that comes to mind about this battle is that Mogli (or whatever) shouldn't be able to take a punch very well, since he has very little experience actually fighting and taking hits, particularly from someone with a punch like Ippo. It's going to be really unbelievable and strange of he manages to keep fighting through force of will after taking a big one from Ippo.
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Sep 6, 2009 01:41
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bhsman posted:I could see Ippo winning this easily but having Woli come back later for a revenge match I would be happy with this outcome. I like that Ippo has been shown as totally on top of poo poo during this fight so far, though we haven't been shown Woli's inevitable comeback. I hope that it doesn't give Ippo too much trouble though, or else all this "check out how mature and experienced Ippo is" from the last chapter would seem out of place.
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Sep 13, 2009 23:48
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Even if he can dodge Ippo, I can't imagine him being able to punch him hard enough to knock him out unless he propels himself from the ring cables oh god please don't let this happen it will be so dumb if it does 
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Sep 21, 2009 18:39
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This latest gimmick is really, really awful. Every bit as bad as the Gedo gimmick. What I don't get is that after telling Ippo what's up, or him realizing it, shouldn't it be really, really easy to deal with this? Just have Ippo aim for where he knows Woli will be (ie not the corner, but rather on the rope). I hope this is what happens, but it'll probably end up being really disappointing somehow.
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Nov 9, 2009 17:54
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The only way I can see Ippo maybe winning is if he takes some defensive approach where he just holes up in the corner. We've seen nothing to indicate that Woli has a particularly strong punch or can deal body blows, so he couldn't really do anything if Ippo just sat in the corner with his turtle guard. He could theoretically just wait until Woli gets frustrated and opens himself up to something. I don't think Woli understands boxing enough to get a point win if Ippo does something like this. I know it's dumb, but I also know that Ippo will win this and can't come up with any other way since they've already made it clear that he flat out can't match his speed and hit him. Also, Woli "monkey running" with his gloves on the ground is the dumbest poo poo I've ever seen in this manga.
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Nov 17, 2009 19:32
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tazman posted:How about a dempsey roll that users Downers (the opposite of uppercuts DUH). Ippo could have a reputation of dealing brain damage to every opponent. I want there to be some arc where Ippo kills his opponent and spends months trying to deal with his guilt over the incident. What really confuses me about this fight is that neither Mori nor any of his editor(s) said "you know, this fight is kinda gay." I mean, I can't imagine anyone giving the thumbs up on how this is progressing.
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Nov 27, 2009 19:35
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I'm not sure how they can make Ippo win this fight without him just getting in a fluke hit ending the match. They've been basically hammering home the idea that Woli is just flat out faster and he can't hit him. I would love it if they just disqualified Woli for grabbing the ropes, haha.
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Dec 1, 2009 17:35
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Chapter 876: http://www.onemanga.com/Hajime_no_Ippo/876/ God dammit. How did they manage to forget that Sendo's coach told them that you can't catch Woli in the corner. This is the worst fight.
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Dec 7, 2009 03:56
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An Outland Dish posted:Four page spread 18 page spread where it starts off just showing Woli's face on the left page and slowly shows Ippo's glove appearing and moving towards it from the right page, concluding with it graphically showing Woli's face get distorted by the glove and his retainer getting knocked out.
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Dec 16, 2009 23:01
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Infinitum posted:*punches Woli* Ippo reveals that during this fight he's actually been hitting Woli multiple times so fast that he couldn't even see it. In a delayed reaction, Woli spews blood out of his mouth and falls down, never to stand up again.
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Dec 17, 2009 22:50
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goodvisiontoucan posted:Whoa whoa can't wait for the rematch between Sendou and Ippo. Gonna be tight. I think Sendo deserves success on the "world stage" more than Ippo does, to be honest. Ippo loves boxing, but he doesn't seem to have the ambition necessary and obsesses too much about stupid poo poo like fighting Miyata.
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Jedah posted:This stream of consciousness posting will be pretty hilarious as you approach the later parts of the manga. Yeah, don't worry about spamming the thread goodvisiontoucan. It's fun for us to read your comments as you progress through the series.
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Dec 21, 2009 01:09
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Dickeye posted:Ippo wins the Woli fight by pulling out his dick in the middle of it Haha, my thoughts exactly. Woli stares in awe at the amazing size of the Nipponese dick. Really disappointed that apparently there's gonna be yet another chapter of Ippo getting the poo poo beaten out of him. This is even worse than the Gedo fight
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Dec 22, 2009 04:28
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goodvisiontoucan posted:I like the Randy Boy Jr fight, still can't get over what a loving dumb name that is though. Really? I liked the beginning, but thought the end was awful. End of Randy Boy fight spoilers They gave Miyata Ippo's level of endurance and had him pull out some supersonic punch out of nowhere. It didn't make any sense.
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Dec 28, 2009 19:48
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What confuses me is why he hasn't at least had Ippo challenging random people (hell, the same people even, who cares) on the "World Stage" instead of defending his title. Morikawa could still extend the thing for eternity if he wanted, and it would at least show *some* forward progress. I'm going to be really astounded if he doesn't start moving up after this fight. edit: Anyone remember when Date "passes the glove" to Ippo and Ippo is all "gently caress yeah let's do this!"? How many years has it been in Ippo-time?
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Dec 29, 2009 16:10
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Jedah posted:Mostly, Miyata's win annoys because RBJ was FAR more interesting than Woli, and I don't want to see him get written out of the series. RBJ had a believable style that looked intimidating, without being too gimmicky. I mean, he kinda looked like... Surprise! A very strong, World Class boxer. I agree. Even though I hated the Randy Boy Jr. fight, I thought he was a fairly compelling character/boxer. Being ambidextrous is a fairly realistic "gimmick" to have. RBJ vs. Ippo would actually be an interesting fight to see.
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Niklas Kronwall 2.0 posted:879 spoilers: Wait, what? So he basically tells him to stop using a winning strategy and take a huge unnecessary risk? That's lame. Even if/when Ippo wins, it'll only be because Woli's coach gave him dumb instructions.
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Infinitum posted:I didn't think this fight could possibly get any worse, yet here we are. The only way this might be spun in a positive manner is if, as we're sorta expecting, this punching match idea results in an Ippo win, but Ippo is fully aware that he would have lost had Woli not taken that strategy and it serves as a "wake up call" of sorts letting Ippo know that poo poo needs to change.
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Niklas Kronwall 2.0 posted:This poo poo also wouldn't be happening if Kamogawa had allowed Itagaki and Ippo to spar so Ippo could get used to god-moding. Was there ever any explanation for why Kamogawa didn't let Ippo spar with Itagaki?
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Serious Frolicking posted:It was implied that Ippo would lose, what with the time stop bullshit. Whoa. I honestly can't think of any way for them to get past characters being flat out faster than Ippo and able to dodge everything he does. One idea might be for Ippo to develop some sort of counter himself, since the only time he'd be able to hit someone who dodges every punch he throws would be to attack at the same time as his opponent is attacking.
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Darke GBF posted:Unfortunately, Itagaki's speed powers are so ridiculous that even fast guys cant keep up with him. He can dodge anything because it's all in slow-mo. It's not even in the realm of boxing, it's superhuman, beyond anything else we've seen in this series so far. Once Itagaki starts fighting people on the same level as Ippo's opponents, the author is going to have to find a way to nullify or kill off that advantage he has, or be forced to let him steamroll people like Volg and Sendo. Wasn't there some spar between Itagaki and Randy Boy Jr. where RBJ was winning? If not Itagaki who was that spar with?
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MizuZero posted:yeah but if that guy doesn't read past 720 he can always imagine the perfect Miyata fight and a proper end to the series before "IT WON'T HAPPEN" and everyone except Itagaki going all super saiyan Wait, everyone except Itagaki? Itagaki is the only who flat out has supernatural powers, so if anyone has been given a weird unnatural powerup it's him. ilifin posted:I think we'll see Ippo attempt to do a double-cancel Dempsey where he rolls left, cancels to center, A stupid thing I could actually see happening is Ippo somehow stopping his Dempsey roll so abruptly that it creates a shock-wave that knocks the opponent down.
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Swamp Zero posted:you guys are making a big deal out of this. Woli can't punch for poo poo. Yeah, the punches seem to shock him more than anything else because of how fast they are, but after the fact he doesn't seem to be taking any meaningful damage.
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Geop posted:Ippo means First Step, I believe. Hajime no Ippo => The First Step at the Beginning? The Very First Step? Ippo just means one step, so the name of the manga translates to "first (one) step."
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Serious Frolicking posted:I've started on Slam Dunk, and while it hasn't really grabbed me it is decent thus far. Considering it actually has an ending I'm sure it will get better eventually. I tried reading Slam Dunk and just couldn't get into it. I can't find basketball interesting no matter how hard I try Eyeshield 21 is pretty cool, though, largely because of the variety of unique characters.
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Swamp Zero posted:There's no reason to be pissed at this so much. You know, I honestly think this fight could be redeemed depending upon how they deal with the aftermath. Whether Ippo wins due to luck or loses, it's clear Woli is flat out better than him. They'll have to make some sort of change in the way he trains. Stuff like speed is hardly some innate talent (though it's possible a large portion of Japan might think it is), and there's no reason he couldn't become better at dodging punches or throwing his faster, or improving his footwork. What will be irredeemable is if Morikawa tries to somehow have Ippo "legitimately" win due to his guts or something. I have a bad feeling about this, largely because it seems like a large portion of Japan believes in the sort of video game "strength at the cost of speed" false dichotomy.
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Bisse posted:
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Jedah posted:I don't disagree with this, I think it can be saved though. Shift away from Ippo. He's completely boring and needs to re-conceptualized. He needs to grow up, badly. Are you specifically looking for a shounen and/or sports manga? Because there are a lot of manga that deal very well with mature themes/characters, just kinda tough to find them in this particular genre. Hunter X Hunter is pretty good at having compelling villains with interesting backstories, if you haven't read that. Worst art ever though, to the extent where the more poorly drawn chapters honestly have you wondering how they got past an editor. Even when it's good it's still pretty mediocre. Makes up for it though with plot.
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musouka posted:I've been considering translating Tarou, which I mentioned earlier in the thread. It's not a perfect series, and it's definitely not a perfect boxing series, but it's the best boxing series I can think of when it comes to juggling day to day life and the career of a pro boxer. This sounds awesome. It's always kinda bothered me how Ippo's life outside of his matches is almost entirely ignored.
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apekillape posted:Vinland. loving. Saga. And Inio Asano stuff and stuff by whoever the dude is who does Ciguatera is even better than any of those, and that's saying a lot since I'm a huge Urasawa fan. Those series are good enough to be considered great by people who don't read any manga (though Urasawa also falls into this category, his manga also have a small degree of manipulative lost-ish mystery/revealing components to them that drop him just slightly below stuff like Punpun or Ciguatera).
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Geop posted:gently caress, that last panel still looks as painful as hell How is Ippo so loving stupid? Why would he do something that has failed over and over again? God. Even if Ippo were some kind of natural physical genius, you still have to have some common sense to be a good boxer.
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Flying High posted:new raw is out... Seems like a worst case scenario in terms of this being absolute bullshit. I was kinda hoping Ippo would actually lose, because he really deserves to. I hope that they at least treat the win (if he wins) as an "empty" one.
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KittenofDoom posted:I hate to say it, but Cracked has surpassed Mad Magazine in terms of quality. How? Sadly, that doesn't really take much. Mad Magazine ceased being funny once I grew older than about 12 years old. The art is still pretty great, though.
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