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Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


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Morbid Hound

IBroughttheFunk posted:

This is a pretty broad request - I've been in a bit of reading rut and have been trying to get back in through historical fiction, one of my favorite genres. Anyone have any favorite titles they'd like to recommend? I particularly enjoy works that take place outside the US and Europe (Pachinko, The island of Sea Women, and Amitav Ghosh's entire Ibis trilogy are particular favorites of mine). But definitely not opposed to solid works set there (I've enjoyed nearly everything I've read from James Mcbride, Louis Erdrich, and Carlos Ruiz Zafón).

The big names in historical fiction we talk about here are Patrick O'Brian, Mary Renault, and sometimes Arturo Perez-Reverte. Sounds like you've probably read them already though.

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IBroughttheFunk
Sep 28, 2012

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

The big names in historical fiction we talk about here are Patrick O'Brian, Mary Renault, and sometimes Arturo Perez-Reverte. Sounds like you've probably read them already though.

Actually, no! The only Renault book I read was The King Must Die back in school, never read anything by O'Brian or Perez-Reverte. I'd definitely be up for any recommendations for any of those three if you have any.

disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

Perez-Reverte has the "Captain Alatriste" series which starts, appropriately, with Captain Alatriste. The English translation is pretty good. They're set during a latter stretch of the Spanish Golden Age, while the Thirty Years' War is raging.

He's also got a bunch of stand-alones set across various points during the past few centuries, including various titles set during the Napoleonic Wars, the Spanish Civil War, and stuff in the present day. The Club Dumas is a present-day (well, early 1990s when it was written) novel that the movie The Ninth Gate was based upon.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


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Morbid Hound

IBroughttheFunk posted:

Actually, no! The only Renault book I read was The King Must Die back in school, never read anything by O'Brian or Perez-Reverte. I'd definitely be up for any recommendations for any of those three if you have any.

For Renault, she was basically famous for two reasons -- the first being that she was and remains the undisputed queen of historical fiction set in the hellenistic world, the second that her protagonists were often classically homosexual in an unashamed, wonderful way that's, hell, still rare in modern fiction, and she was writing from like the 1950s to the 70s. King Must Die is probably her most well known work but it's uncharacteristically straight. I'd suggest The Last of the Wine (two young men fall in love during the Peloponnesian War) or The Fire from Heaven and The Persian Boy (her version of the Alexander the Great story). We did Last of the Wine as Book of the Month here: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3647305 .

For Patrick O'Brian, you may be familiar with the Russel Crowe movie (arguably Crowe's best film). O'Brian is the best writer out of the entire napoleonic-wars-era british historical fiction type thing -- if you've read Horatio Hornblower or Cornwell's Sharpe books, this is better. STart with Master and Commander which is the first book in the series.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHTHCNYiiHk

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3393240&pagenumber=82

Neither of those are exactly non-European but the Alexander books will get you into Asia and Patrick O'Brian goes around the world in twenty volumes (via British naval vessels, natch)

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Kvlt!
May 19, 2012



any recs for stuff McCarthy-esque westerns or neo-western books like Blood Meridian and the Border Trilogy except with punctuation?

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

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Kvlt! posted:

any recs for stuff McCarthy-esque westerns or neo-western books like Blood Meridian and the Border Trilogy except with punctuation?

Have you checked out any of the Splatter Westerns? Those would probably be up your alley

Kvlt!
May 19, 2012



Opopanax posted:

Have you checked out any of the Splatter Westerns? Those would probably be up your alley

hm i havent heard of it is it a series or a subgenre?

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

Kvlt! posted:

hm i havent heard of it is it a series or a subgenre?

https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/161192.Splatter_Westerns

Some of them are quite good.

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

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Kvlt! posted:

hm i havent heard of it is it a series or a subgenre?

Technically a series but they aren't connected, more like an anthology but with feature length books

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

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IBroughttheFunk posted:

This is a pretty broad request - I've been in a bit of reading rut and have been trying to get back in through historical fiction, one of my favorite genres. Anyone have any favorite titles they'd like to recommend? I particularly enjoy works that take place outside the US and Europe (Pachinko, The island of Sea Women, and Amitav Ghosh's entire Ibis trilogy are particular favorites of mine). But definitely not opposed to solid works set there (I've enjoyed nearly everything I've read from James Mcbride, Louis Erdrich, and Carlos Ruiz Zafón).

Dorothy Dunnett's Lymond books are beauties, starting with Game of Kings.

Dr. Fraiser Chain
May 18, 2004

Redlining my shit posting machine


Who has recommendations for books on mythical and hero stories from an anthropological perspective of over arching development? If that request makes sense

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
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The Hero With a Thousand Faces is the natural starting point, basically the first work to discuss the topic for the general public.

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Jimbozig
Sep 30, 2003

I like sharing and ice cream and animals.
My daughter is 12 and she asked for a non-fiction book about fantasy. I've found some kids books on monsters and on mythology, but I don't have any idea as to their quality and was just wondering if anyone here had any particular recommendations.

(Her reading level is typical for her age, so anything for adults or even older teens is going to feel "boring" for her.)

Leraika
Jun 14, 2015

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The Tough Guide to Fantasyland and/or The Dictionary of Imaginary Places

e: probably the former is more suited

If you want specifically mythology and are okay with specifically Greek mythology, it's hard to beat the D'Aulaires' Book of Greek Myths. The Illustrated Book of Myths by Neil Phillip is a good one too.

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3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

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Gripweed
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Hard to beat the Book of Imaginary Beings by Borges.

It's never too early to get your kids started on Borges

yaffle
Sep 15, 2002

Flapdoodle

Jimbozig posted:

My daughter is 12 and she asked for a non-fiction book about fantasy. I've found some kids books on monsters and on mythology, but I don't have any idea as to their quality and was just wondering if anyone here had any particular recommendations.

(Her reading level is typical for her age, so anything for adults or even older teens is going to feel "boring" for her.)

I've always loved "Gods, Men and Monsters from the Greek Myths" by Michael Gibson and Giovanni Caselli, the illustrations are fantastic, Caselli really gets into it.

Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

Jimbozig posted:

My daughter is 12 and she asked for a non-fiction book about fantasy. I've found some kids books on monsters and on mythology, but I don't have any idea as to their quality and was just wondering if anyone here had any particular recommendations.

(Her reading level is typical for her age, so anything for adults or even older teens is going to feel "boring" for her.)

I'll never pass up a chance to recommend the D'Aulaires' Greek Myths and Norse Myths books.

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

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regulargonzalez posted:

The Hero With a Thousand Faces is the natural starting point, basically the first work to discuss the topic for the general public.

also The Power of Myth

yaffle
Sep 15, 2002

Flapdoodle

feedmyleg posted:

Amusing/silly/goofy historical fiction? Something that might be a literary companion to Our Flag Means Death or Blackadder or Jack of All Trades. Or, I suppose, the Monkey Island games. Maybe "Terry Prachett without the magic' kind of vibes?

I Forgot Brigadier Gerard, Arthur Conan-Doyle's wonderful Napoleonic war stories:
https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/11247

FPyat
Jan 17, 2020
I want the best English grammar textbook for someone whose intuitive grasp of the language is proficient but needs to learn all the technical terminology they ignored in high school.

Kvlt!
May 19, 2012



I recently watched the movie Ikiru and its remake/reimagining Living, and I was looking for the literary equivalent. Essentially any books where the theme is "bitter people, and/or people who have been through great hardship, learn to appreciate/love life".

Ideally something relatively modern, and by modern I mean more recent than a Christmas carol. I read the Tolstoy stories those movies are based on but I'm looking for something a little more positive.

Fiction only please.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

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I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

Kvlt! posted:

I recently watched the movie Ikiru and its remake/reimagining Living, and I was looking for the literary equivalent. Essentially any books where the theme is "bitter people, and/or people who have been through great hardship, learn to appreciate/love life".

Ideally something relatively modern, and by modern I mean more recent than a Christmas carol. I read the Tolstoy stories those movies are based on but I'm looking for something a little more positive.

Fiction only please.

Remains of the Day by Kazu Ishiguro comes to mind.

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

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FPyat posted:

I want the best English grammar textbook for someone whose intuitive grasp of the language is proficient but needs to learn all the technical terminology they ignored in high school.

Martha Kolln's Understanding English Grammar has always been my favorite, but it's a textbook so pricey everywhere I see it

Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

FPyat posted:

I want the best English grammar textbook for someone whose intuitive grasp of the language is proficient but needs to learn all the technical terminology they ignored in high school.

Dreyer's English isn't a textbook but it'll improve almost anyone's grasp of the language.

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

FPyat posted:

I want the best English grammar textbook for someone whose intuitive grasp of the language is proficient but needs to learn all the technical terminology they ignored in high school.

These aren't textbooks but I've been going a period of trying to correct for my neurodivergence and lack of a thorough high school education in grammar. So I've got a few Commonwealth orientated suggestions,

The Briefest English Grammar and Punctuation Guide Ever by Ruth Colman. Exactly what it says on the tin. All the basics in a slim approachable book. You won't need to go further than here for day to day grammar. Highly recommended.

My Grammar and I by Caroline Taggart and J. A. Wines. Grammar learning for the anxious, a light tone but there's a lot of old grammar canards referenced in here which might reinforce the old tired poo poo. Covers much more than you'd ever need. Not a strong recommendation.

The Collins Complete Writing Guide Huge and outdated but the grammar section takes up only a thin slice. Genuinely well written and encouraging if prescriptive. The prescriptivism is the result of the book originally being pitched as guide on how to write effectively. Recommended

English Grammar: the basics by Michael McCarthy. Much denser and text book like, this book is pitched mainly at those learning grammar in order to teach it. It covers far more than you'd need in everyday life.

Oxford Everyday Grammar by John Seely. The most textbook like. Has the advantage of very clear formatting.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


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Morbid Hound
I'm a big fan of _The Transitive Vampire_ but it's more for helping you develop a good intuitive grasp of the rules, not technical details.

escape artist
Sep 24, 2005

Slow train coming

Kvlt! posted:

any recs for stuff McCarthy-esque westerns or neo-western books like Blood Meridian and the Border Trilogy except with punctuation?

The Son by Philip Meyer
Only Killers and Thieves by Paul Howarth
Joe Lansdale The Thicket
All God's Children by Aaron Gwyn

DarkLich
Feb 19, 2004
Seeking recommendations for a friend-group book club - the genre this month is HARD SCI FI

Previous sci fi books we've read:
- The Diamond Age (unanimously loved)
- Dune (unanimously liked)
- Annihilation (divisively liked)
- Dark Matter (unanimously disliked)

My suggestion so far is Children of Time by Tchaikovsky. Any other bright ideas from recent decades? I'm trying to stay away from anything that requires a multi book investment. And naturally anything with magical talismans, space wizards, or "proto-molocules".

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You gently caress with the Culture? It's a series but they're all mostly standalone, just some shared historical events and a character who repeatedly shows up. I think Player of Games is a little stronger than Consider Phlebas for an entry point, but they're all good.

You could also try the Bohr Maker by Linda Nagata. Also the start of a series of books that are mostly standalone, about nontechnology and post-humanism. Plays around with a lot of the same ideas as The Diamond Age

disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

Maybe the works of Alastair Reynolds? He's got some stand-alones and does hard SF. Had an acquaintance who praised Pushing Ice pretty heavily.

tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

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Fun Shoe

DarkLich posted:

Seeking recommendations for a friend-group book club - the genre this month is HARD SCI FI

Previous sci fi books we've read:
- The Diamond Age (unanimously loved)
- Dune (unanimously liked)
- Annihilation (divisively liked)
- Dark Matter (unanimously disliked)

My suggestion so far is Children of Time by Tchaikovsky. Any other bright ideas from recent decades? I'm trying to stay away from anything that requires a multi book investment. And naturally anything with magical talismans, space wizards, or "proto-molocules".

Children of Time is fantastic.

Pushing Ice, as mentioned, is a great rec.

I love all these books and try to give some eclectic options:
Rendezvous with Rama by Arthur C. Clarke is about a weird asteroid passing by earth and the team sent to investigate it in the near future.

Dragon’s Egg by Robert L. Forward is about a neutron star passing through the solar system and the interesting implications of extreme gravity and magnetism and time dilation for evolution.

Diaspora by Greg Egan is about a race of sentient software and how it interacts with humanity in the not-too-distant future. It’s a beautiful and heartbreaking book about time and identity and finitude.

Or read some stuff by women:

Semiosis by Sue Burke is about settlers on a distant planet who have to contend with a sentient plant.

Except for instantaneous communications, any of the Hainish Cycle books by Ursula K. LeGuin are technically hard sci fi. The two standouts (they’re all excellent though) are The Left Hand of Darkness about a planet where the people have no set sex but change throughout their lives, and The Dispossessed about a planet with a moon with an exiled anarchist society.

The Stars Are Legion by Kameron Hurley is sort of hard sci fi, but with a society based on weird biotechnology. It doesn’t let them bend laws of physics. Anyway, this book is about an armada of colony ships that get stranded in space. The important feminist twist is that the surviving crew gives birth to components of the ship, sort of involuntarily (though not in a violent way, just like, through the food or water or something because the ship needs a new gizmo).

Or maybe an old book:

20 000 Leagues Under the Sea by Jules Verne is about a scientist and his plucky entourage get shipwrecked by a submarine run by a mysterious swarthy captain.

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Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


DarkLich posted:

Seeking recommendations for a friend-group book club - the genre this month is HARD SCI FI

Previous sci fi books we've read:
- The Diamond Age (unanimously loved)
- Dune (unanimously liked)
- Annihilation (divisively liked)
- Dark Matter (unanimously disliked)

My suggestion so far is Children of Time by Tchaikovsky. Any other bright ideas from recent decades? I'm trying to stay away from anything that requires a multi book investment. And naturally anything with magical talismans, space wizards, or "proto-molocules".

Aurora, by Kim Stanley Robinson. Fairly hard SF about a generation ship from Earth seeking to colonize another star.

BioTech
Feb 5, 2007
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DarkLich posted:

Seeking recommendations for a friend-group book club - the genre this month is HARD SCI FI

Previous sci fi books we've read:
- The Diamond Age (unanimously loved)
- Dune (unanimously liked)
- Annihilation (divisively liked)
- Dark Matter (unanimously disliked)

My suggestion so far is Children of Time by Tchaikovsky. Any other bright ideas from recent decades? I'm trying to stay away from anything that requires a multi book investment. And naturally anything with magical talismans, space wizards, or "proto-molocules".

Blindsight is excellent.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

FPyat posted:

I want the best English grammar textbook for someone whose intuitive grasp of the language is proficient but needs to learn all the technical terminology they ignored in high school.

Greenbaum & Quirk is what you want. Also wouldn't hurt to read Trask's Language: The Basics.

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Gnoman
Feb 12, 2014

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tuyop posted:


Dragon’s Egg by Robert L. Forward is about a neutron star passing through the solar system and the interesting implications of extreme gravity and magnetism and time dilation for evolution.


Both this and the sequel (Starquake) are on the short side as well, so it is a nice selection for a club format.

Kvlt!
May 19, 2012



Franchescanado posted:

Remains of the Day by Kazu Ishiguro comes to mind.

just wanted to say ive been reading this and really enjoying it. Excited to check out the movie once ive finished it which ive heard is quite good as well!!

tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe

Gnoman posted:

Both this and the sequel (Starquake) are on the short side as well, so it is a nice selection for a club format.

Also one of the few depictions of aliens having beloved pets. So important in that regard alone.

Fate Accomplice
Nov 30, 2006




also posted this in the historical fiction thread, but just in case:

should I read Clavell's Asian Saga in publication or chronological order?

publication:
King Rat
Taipan
Shogun
Noble House
Whirlwind
Gaijin

chronological:
Shogun
Taipan
Gaijin
King Rat
Noble House
Whirlwind

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3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Yes.

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